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Thom Little
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Tue Dec-06-05 02:47 PM Original message |
More Than 50 Black Bears Killed in N.J. |
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DS1
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Tue Dec-06-05 02:50 PM Response to Original message |
1. Sport Hunters. Can't live with em', can't skin 'em and eat 'em |
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flvegan
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Tue Dec-06-05 09:52 PM Response to Reply #1 |
50. What exactly is a "sport hunter" anyway? |
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wordpix
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Tue Dec-06-05 09:54 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. one who kills animals for sport because it's "fun" and makes his dick seem |
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The Stranger
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Wed Dec-07-05 10:48 AM Response to Reply #1 |
70. Oh you can't? |
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HillDem
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Tue Dec-06-05 02:52 PM Response to Original message |
2. Stephen Colbert would be proud |
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jilln
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Tue Dec-06-05 03:16 PM Response to Reply #2 |
11. I saw that last night |
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TX-RAT
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Tue Dec-06-05 02:54 PM Response to Original message |
3. we're here to help them." |
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seriousstan
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Tue Dec-06-05 03:03 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. Give them a big bear hug. |
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jilln
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Tue Dec-06-05 03:17 PM Response to Reply #3 |
12. Some people are willing to get arrested |
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TX-RAT
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Tue Dec-06-05 03:33 PM Response to Reply #12 |
23. Your choice. |
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imported_dem
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Tue Dec-06-05 03:43 PM Response to Reply #12 |
25. While sitting in jail |
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jilln
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Tue Dec-06-05 06:43 PM Response to Reply #25 |
39. brilliant question!!! |
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Squatch
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Tue Dec-06-05 10:38 PM Response to Reply #39 |
56. As opposed to your brilliantly 1980's response? |
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imported_dem
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Tue Dec-06-05 02:55 PM Response to Original message |
4. The protesters better be careful |
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Squatch
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Tue Dec-06-05 03:25 PM Response to Reply #4 |
20. Yep...it sure is... |
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LeftyMom
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Tue Dec-06-05 05:54 PM Response to Reply #20 |
33. Some people choose to do what's right in defiance of the law |
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SOS
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Tue Dec-06-05 06:38 PM Response to Reply #20 |
37. You are hearby charged |
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Tue Dec-06-05 09:50 PM Response to Reply #20 |
49. Deleted message |
saigon68
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Fri Dec-09-05 05:07 AM Response to Reply #49 |
148. Adios |
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stepnw1f
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Wed Dec-07-05 04:51 PM Response to Reply #4 |
123. I Hope Thousands Stampede the Hunters |
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WI_DEM
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Tue Dec-06-05 02:56 PM Response to Original message |
5. I'm surprised a small and so populated state as NJ has that many |
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Cessna Invesco Palin
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Tue Dec-06-05 03:06 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. That part of NJ is fairly rural. |
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brentspeak
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Tue Dec-06-05 03:07 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. All the construction going on here |
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BJW
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Tue Dec-06-05 04:59 PM Response to Reply #5 |
30. The Statistics are Suspicious |
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lynne
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Tue Dec-06-05 03:07 PM Response to Original message |
9. It's unfortunate but necessary - |
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jilln
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Tue Dec-06-05 03:15 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. spoken like a true hunter |
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lynne
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Tue Dec-06-05 03:24 PM Response to Reply #10 |
19. I'm willing to entertain any other solution - |
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TX-RAT
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Tue Dec-06-05 03:36 PM Response to Reply #19 |
24. Prepare for the sound of crickets. |
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A Simple Game
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Tue Dec-06-05 03:58 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. Yep, that what I thought too. |
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MadisonProgressive
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Wed Dec-07-05 03:33 PM Response to Reply #26 |
109. Birth control? Putting a condom on a bear would be very dangerous! |
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TX-RAT
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Wed Dec-07-05 04:16 PM Response to Reply #109 |
114. lol, can't wait to hear that story. |
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MadisonProgressive
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Wed Dec-07-05 04:21 PM Response to Reply #114 |
117. Somehow I think it would be a bit messy |
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jilln
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Tue Dec-06-05 06:45 PM Response to Reply #24 |
40. I was working |
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BJW
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Tue Dec-06-05 05:00 PM Response to Reply #19 |
31. Read the article first |
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lynne
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Tue Dec-06-05 06:00 PM Response to Reply #31 |
34. I did read the article. Are you speaking of the fireworks - |
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LostinVA
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Tue Dec-06-05 09:32 PM Response to Reply #19 |
45. Quit laying off Park Rangers and let them cull them |
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lynne
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Tue Dec-06-05 10:17 PM Response to Reply #45 |
53. Ironically, my husband is a Park Ranger - |
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jilln
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Wed Dec-07-05 10:22 AM Response to Reply #19 |
66. birth control |
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Squatch
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Wed Dec-07-05 10:32 AM Response to Reply #66 |
67. Birth control is temporary and terribly expensive |
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jilln
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Wed Dec-07-05 04:02 PM Response to Reply #67 |
110. Yes, killing is cheaper |
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yellowcanine
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Wed Dec-07-05 10:58 AM Response to Reply #66 |
73. Birth control is not "obviously" an option. It is only obvious if you |
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jilln
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Wed Dec-07-05 04:03 PM Response to Reply #73 |
111. Like I said, it's not gonna appease the bloodthirsty. |
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yellowcanine
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Thu Dec-08-05 11:08 AM Response to Reply #111 |
144. That's a cheap shot. If it doesn't work it doesn't work. Has nothing to |
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yellowcanine
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Wed Dec-07-05 10:51 AM Response to Reply #10 |
72. What is "natural" about having so many bears they are eating out of |
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losdiablosgato
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Wed Dec-07-05 12:16 PM Response to Reply #10 |
83. Death happens in nature, there have to be preditors |
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shrike
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Thu Dec-08-05 10:31 AM Response to Reply #10 |
141. Nature has plenty of lethal solutions to overpopulation |
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BJW
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Tue Dec-06-05 04:57 PM Response to Reply #9 |
29. Bears are NOT herd animals |
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lynne
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Tue Dec-06-05 06:12 PM Response to Reply #29 |
35. I am aware that bears are not herd animals - |
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BJW
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Tue Dec-06-05 06:25 PM Response to Reply #35 |
36. and then reduced reproduction rates commence |
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yellowcanine
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Wed Dec-07-05 11:17 AM Response to Reply #29 |
74. Carrying capacity is finite regardless of whether or not an animal is |
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theHandpuppet
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Wed Dec-07-05 11:31 AM Response to Reply #74 |
76. "Carrying capacity is finite regardless of whether or not an animal is... |
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yellowcanine
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Wed Dec-07-05 11:38 AM Response to Reply #76 |
77. Actually humans act like a herd animal at times. Think football |
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theHandpuppet
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Wed Dec-07-05 12:53 PM Response to Reply #77 |
88. I was thinking more of the carrying capacity |
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mike_c
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Tue Dec-06-05 07:10 PM Response to Reply #9 |
43. is there any data to suggest that NJ bear populations are actually... |
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Canuckistanian
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Tue Dec-06-05 03:17 PM Response to Original message |
13. MMmmm, them animal activists is good eatin'... |
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noonwitch
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Tue Dec-06-05 03:19 PM Response to Original message |
14. I don't have a problem with hunting overall |
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happyslug
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Tue Dec-06-05 04:49 PM Response to Reply #14 |
27. Relocate where? Pennsylvania does NOT want them, Neither does NY. |
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pokercat999
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Wed Dec-07-05 07:31 AM Response to Reply #27 |
61. Atlantic City , they could all get rooms at the Taj. The buffet |
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yellowcanine
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Wed Dec-07-05 11:49 AM Response to Reply #27 |
78. I am thinking the pig farm in Crawford. Then * could be a hero and hunt |
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carolinalady
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Tue Dec-06-05 10:29 PM Response to Reply #14 |
54. You can try--but they just come back. We had six they relocated |
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yellowcanine
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Wed Dec-07-05 12:03 PM Response to Reply #54 |
80. What is a nice Carolina lady like you doing in Yankee land? |
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carolinalady
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Wed Dec-07-05 02:10 PM Response to Reply #80 |
99. until 2 years ago I was a PA yankee all my life! n/t |
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yellowcanine
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Wed Dec-07-05 02:54 PM Response to Reply #99 |
106. I grew up in Lebanon County and went to Penn State. Left in 1979 and |
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carolinalady
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Thu Dec-08-05 10:22 AM Response to Reply #106 |
139. I grew up in Centre county and went to Penn State as well. n/t |
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yellowcanine
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Thu Dec-08-05 11:03 AM Response to Reply #139 |
143. Oh wow. Centre County and State College are great. What years did you |
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carolinalady
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Thu Dec-08-05 11:20 AM Response to Reply #143 |
145. 84-89--took a year off to live in CA. n/t |
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yellowcanine
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Thu Dec-08-05 11:32 AM Response to Reply #145 |
146. Go Nittany Lions! |
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Coventina
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Tue Dec-06-05 03:20 PM Response to Original message |
15. What kind of "human" wants to kill something they can't even eat? |
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imported_dem
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Tue Dec-06-05 03:21 PM Response to Reply #15 |
16. Who says you can't eat it |
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Squatch
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Tue Dec-06-05 03:22 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. Bear is actually quite tasty. |
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Mithras61
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Tue Dec-06-05 03:22 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. Who says you can't eat bear? |
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lynne
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Tue Dec-06-05 03:26 PM Response to Reply #15 |
21. Bear meat is excellent! |
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jilln
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Tue Dec-06-05 06:45 PM Response to Reply #21 |
41. Apparently humans are tasty too. |
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lynne
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Tue Dec-06-05 07:00 PM Response to Reply #41 |
42. I'm sure humans are tasty to a bear - |
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flvegan
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Tue Dec-06-05 09:37 PM Response to Reply #42 |
47. The last time a child |
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Xithras
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Wed Dec-07-05 12:47 PM Response to Reply #47 |
87. The last time was in NY in 2002. |
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silvermachine
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Wed Dec-07-05 10:34 AM Response to Reply #42 |
68. Too funny... |
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Wed Dec-07-05 12:10 PM Response to Reply #42 |
82. Well, maybe if the child was somewhere in Connecticut in the early 1950's. |
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karlrschneider
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Tue Dec-06-05 03:28 PM Response to Original message |
22. We face a somewhat parallel dilemma out here where I live... |
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BJW
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Tue Dec-06-05 05:03 PM Response to Reply #22 |
32. But the bears AREN'T starving |
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BJW
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Tue Dec-06-05 04:56 PM Response to Original message |
28. NJ Wildlife Officials Population Stats Seem Suspicious |
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karynnj
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Wed Dec-07-05 11:52 AM Response to Reply #28 |
79. As a NJ resident living in what is considered |
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Chicago Democrat
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Tue Dec-06-05 06:43 PM Response to Original message |
38. New Jersey Bears.. wow..... |
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flvegan
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Tue Dec-06-05 09:18 PM Response to Original message |
44. Once again, it's not hunting. It's shooting and killing. |
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LostinVA
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Tue Dec-06-05 09:36 PM Response to Reply #44 |
46. Yup, agreed. |
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flvegan
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Tue Dec-06-05 09:39 PM Response to Reply #46 |
48. Well, when "hunt" is defined |
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Squatch
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Tue Dec-06-05 10:36 PM Response to Reply #44 |
55. Explain, please. |
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flvegan
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Wed Dec-07-05 07:05 AM Response to Reply #55 |
59. Mmmkay |
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imported_dem
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Wed Dec-07-05 07:10 AM Response to Reply #59 |
60. I don't know of anywhere where it is legal to hunt on a baited field |
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flvegan
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Wed Dec-07-05 07:38 AM Response to Reply #60 |
63. Even with |
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Squatch
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Wed Dec-07-05 09:37 AM Response to Reply #63 |
64. The (possible) end results of hunting over bait or stalking an animal |
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Kixel
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Wed Dec-07-05 01:19 PM Response to Reply #63 |
92. Wow... |
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Squatch
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Wed Dec-07-05 09:45 AM Response to Reply #60 |
65. I know quite a few places where this is legal. |
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Wed Dec-07-05 12:30 PM Response to Reply #60 |
85. Fields are baited for dove hunts. |
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TX-RAT
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Wed Dec-07-05 02:08 PM Response to Reply #85 |
97. "Fields are baited for dove hunts." |
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Tue Dec-06-05 10:00 PM Response to Original message |
52. Deleted sub-thread |
freethought
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Tue Dec-06-05 11:54 PM Response to Original message |
57. Wow! This is practically a war here on this thread. |
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miles55
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Wed Dec-07-05 12:51 AM Response to Original message |
58. Guess some rednecks needed..... |
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RebelOne
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Wed Dec-07-05 07:33 AM Response to Reply #58 |
62. LOL! |
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yellowcanine
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Wed Dec-07-05 12:19 PM Response to Reply #58 |
84. You know I am not a hunter but I am tired of the self rightousness |
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Wed Dec-07-05 01:37 PM Response to Reply #84 |
94. you're not a Hunter nor areyou a spokesman for humanity-you defend killing |
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yellowcanine
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Wed Dec-07-05 02:01 PM Response to Reply #94 |
95. What exactly is your point? That people are not adapted to meat eating? |
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LeftyMom
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Wed Dec-07-05 02:03 PM Response to Reply #84 |
96. FYI: Many of the people opposing hunting on this thread |
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yellowcanine
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Wed Dec-07-05 02:09 PM Response to Reply #96 |
98. I realize that. See post # 95. Vegetarianism is not much of an option |
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LeftyMom
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Wed Dec-07-05 02:14 PM Response to Reply #98 |
100. I don't want to drag this thread off-topic |
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yellowcanine
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Wed Dec-07-05 02:17 PM Response to Reply #100 |
102. Fair enough. But I would like your recipe for tall fescue salad sometime. |
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LeftyMom
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Wed Dec-07-05 02:23 PM Response to Reply #102 |
103. There's no need to unleash the snark |
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yellowcanine
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Wed Dec-07-05 02:43 PM Response to Reply #103 |
105. May be snarky but still true. You can shout about inefficiencies all |
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LeftyMom
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Wed Dec-07-05 03:08 PM Response to Reply #105 |
107. I'm not shouting about anything. |
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yellowcanine
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Wed Dec-07-05 03:20 PM Response to Reply #107 |
108. Hmm. Have you done the calculations on this or is this just a WAG |
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Beaverhausen
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Wed Dec-07-05 04:04 PM Response to Reply #108 |
112. The inefficiency of production and distribution of meat products is... |
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yellowcanine
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Wed Dec-07-05 04:19 PM Response to Reply #112 |
115. You all keep missing the point. Animals eat grass. People don't. |
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TX-RAT
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Wed Dec-07-05 04:20 PM Response to Reply #112 |
116. Would love to see it, i've been raising cows for over 25 years. |
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yellowcanine
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Wed Dec-07-05 04:34 PM Response to Reply #116 |
118. I grew up on a dairy farm.....I never was a big fan of cows though. I |
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TX-RAT
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Wed Dec-07-05 04:38 PM Response to Reply #118 |
120. Their dumb until it's time to pen them. |
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Beaverhausen
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Wed Dec-07-05 05:09 PM Response to Reply #116 |
126. Here's a start |
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TX-RAT
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Wed Dec-07-05 05:20 PM Response to Reply #126 |
127. Sorry i thought you were talking about an actually study. |
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Beaverhausen
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Wed Dec-07-05 05:32 PM Response to Reply #127 |
128. A joke? |
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TX-RAT
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Wed Dec-07-05 05:49 PM Response to Reply #128 |
129. Whats to disprove? |
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Beaverhausen
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Wed Dec-07-05 05:53 PM Response to Reply #129 |
130. There are figures stated in the link and in the sections I posted |
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flvegan
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Wed Dec-07-05 06:26 PM Response to Reply #130 |
132. You might as well be fighting with rodeo clowns |
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Beaverhausen
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Wed Dec-07-05 06:28 PM Response to Reply #132 |
133. I know but I think some other DUers will read it and learn a thing or two |
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TX-RAT
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Thu Dec-08-05 10:36 AM Response to Reply #132 |
142. rodeo clowns? |
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TX-RAT
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Thu Dec-08-05 10:02 AM Response to Reply #130 |
136. (go ahead and ignore them), - I will, their meaningless. |
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flvegan
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Wed Dec-07-05 06:24 PM Response to Reply #129 |
131. Dr. David Pimentel, PhD, prof at Cornell U |
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TX-RAT
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Wed Dec-07-05 04:45 PM Response to Reply #107 |
121. I don't want a plant based diet. |
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Fri Dec-09-05 07:32 AM Response to Reply #105 |
150. This vegetarian agrees! |
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jilln
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Wed Dec-07-05 04:08 PM Response to Reply #98 |
113. Those of you who are in favor of this |
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TX-RAT
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Wed Dec-07-05 04:34 PM Response to Reply #113 |
119. You don't want to hunt or eat animals, no problem. |
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NickB79
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Wed Dec-07-05 06:43 PM Response to Reply #113 |
134. Why with our bare hands? |
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yellowcanine
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Wed Dec-07-05 10:39 AM Response to Original message |
69. They are going to "tend to wounded bears" ???? I am sure the bears |
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blindpig
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Wed Dec-07-05 10:51 AM Response to Original message |
71. The base problem is too many people. |
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yellowcanine
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Wed Dec-07-05 11:24 AM Response to Reply #71 |
75. Maybe the bears will unite with deer to do something about the humans. |
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blindpig
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Wed Dec-07-05 12:36 PM Response to Reply #75 |
86. When I think of Bambi |
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Beaverhausen
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Wed Dec-07-05 01:15 PM Response to Reply #71 |
91. Lets let hunters shoot at each other |
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Wed Dec-07-05 12:07 PM Response to Original message |
81. Those bothersome bears will be gone soon enough. |
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The Sleeper
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Wed Dec-07-05 01:03 PM Response to Original message |
89. My .02 |
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saigon68
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Wed Dec-07-05 04:53 PM Response to Reply #89 |
124. LOL |
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Wed Dec-07-05 01:10 PM Response to Original message |
90. NPR reported |
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NIGHT TRIPPER
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Wed Dec-07-05 01:27 PM Response to Original message |
93. PAUL McCARTNEY AND BONO-very seriously could put the heat on N.J.- |
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Tarc
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Thu Dec-08-05 10:20 AM Response to Reply #93 |
138. It is not |
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NIGHT TRIPPER
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Fri Dec-09-05 04:54 AM Response to Reply #138 |
147. ----------IS SO !!-----------na na na na na---your "it" |
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Fri Dec-09-05 08:45 AM Response to Reply #147 |
151. PETA |
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Wed Dec-07-05 02:14 PM Response to Original message |
101. Wonder how many are hit by cars in PA |
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Wed Dec-07-05 02:25 PM Response to Reply #101 |
104. I don't know but PA is the numero uno for deer-car collisions. |
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Wed Dec-07-05 04:47 PM Response to Reply #104 |
122. WISCONSIN IS # 10 for Car/deer encounters |
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Wed Dec-07-05 04:58 PM Response to Original message |
125. Fun or Necessary? |
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Wed Dec-07-05 06:52 PM Response to Original message |
135. Hunting was actually found to be less efficient at controlling bear/human |
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Thu Dec-08-05 10:16 AM Response to Reply #135 |
137. Did you look at the study? It was a non-peer reviewed literature study |
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Thu Dec-08-05 10:30 AM Response to Reply #137 |
140. My father-in-law recently installed a low-voltage fence around |
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Fri Dec-09-05 05:32 AM Response to Original message |
149. I'm not one for hunting, but at least in NJ they actually |
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Fri Dec-09-05 09:08 AM Response to Original message |
152. I thought the bears were hibernating at this time of year |
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