After meeting with Bush, Lieberman affirms Iraq-war support

[othermeans]

(Hartford-AP, Dec. 16, 2005 11:33 AM) _ After meeting with President Bush this morning, Senator Joe Lieberman reaffirmed his support for the Iraq war, saying the president's recent speeches do indeed add up to a "plan for success."

Lieberman's remarks were broadcast from a mid-morning press conference with other senators in front of the White House. Bush and the senators discussed yesterday's Iraqi elections.

Lieberman says the nation is in Iraq to protect the rights of 26 million people to "a better life" against 10,000 to 15,000 terrorists.

http://www.wtnh.com/global/story.asp?s=4254145

[npincus]

1. yeeeeeeech

was he sitting in Chimpy's lap, too?

[Tom Joad]

3. You mean like a lap dance? The visuals here are not healthy.

[MADem]

7. He claims to be so damn religious, he needs to read those

tablets that old Moses brought down the hill. What part of THOU SHALT NOT KILL does he fail to comprehend? It doesn't do ya any good to get some goy to turn your lights on and off for you one day a week if you don't walk the walk the other six days.

Craven, foolish, toadie. Why make us wait? Switch parties NOW, NO-Mentum!

[GatoLover]

11. This is strictly a religious, not a political comment

The sixth commandment says, "Lo tirzach," which does not translate to, "Thou shalt not kill." Like it or not, the Hebrew Bible condones, indeed, requires, killing under certain circumstances.

I realize there is a certain political inference to be drawn from this. :eyes:

[MADem]

16. I don't speak the language, so I am NO expert!

What does it mean, then? Could it be that the fundies have gotten it wrong all these years? I seriously would like to know how the phrase suffered in translation; simply for my own edification, plus it would make an iteresting discussion point (we learn something new everyday...or should, I guess!).

It would be rather ironic if the stock character, cud-chewing, unshaven dirty clown in every bad movie we have ever seen who says something along the lines of "He needs killin'!!!" has his roots in the far-away deserts!!!

[GatoLover]

33. The translation of "Lo tirzach"

would be "You shall not murder," or "You shall not kill unlawfully." The prohibition is not against killing per se. The Hebrew Bible sanctions, indeed it demands, capital punishment, likewise in contemplates killing in warfare. I should hasten to add that the rabbinic texts (the Talmud) place qualifications and heavy impediments on the actual imposition of a death penalty.

[MADem]

34. Hmmm, would that apply to nations as well as individuals?

Because we are certainly shamed by the way the Monkeyking has sent our children off to do dispicable things--there has certainly been an aura of unlawful murder about, in some circumstances--and they have no option but to obey the commander in chief...and JoeMentum still hopes to be SECDEF, in order to do more of the same!!

If it does apply to nation-states, he's still in trouble with the Rabbi!

[Rocknrule]

36. He only cares

about the killing of pixilated bad guys in video games
Not real living human beings

[sabra]

2. It appears Lieberman is now part of the Bushco innercircle

meeting with them almost on a daily basis.

[LaurenG]

4. What a slap in the face to the other dems.

Oh well, he's made his bed, he can lie in it now.

[NanceGreggs]

5. What a PUTZ!

"Lieberman says the nation is in Iraq to protect the rights of 26 million people to "a better life" against 10,000 to 15,000 terrorists."

And just who is 'protecting' millions of Americans from the Neo-con terrorists currently ruining our economy, our democracy, and the American way of life?

Americans need "a better life" than the one they're getting under this Administration. Where does the Loserman stand on that issue?

[saigon68]

6. joementum losermann = New repuke CONVERT

HE'S REALLY BUSY ELATING THE CHIMP AND HIS FELLOW WAR CRIMINALS


OOPS FORGOT the "f"

[bear425]

14. I believe he's "Elating" them, too. n/t

[tularetom]

8. WTF is wrong with the Dem "leadership"

that they don't sit this asshole down and tell him where the cow ate the cabbage?

[spindrifter]

9. Uh--that's not why we went there.

We have changed the prism we are looking through, Joe. All those terrorists--well, we attracted them because we couldn't resist the idea of ousting big, bad Saddam.
Joe, you need to start being a little more like a Democrat.

[Elwood P Dowd]

10. What was that white stain on Joe's tie?

Why was he wearing knee pads with a "W" on them?

[hankthecrank]

29. What's that Brown stain on his nose

He is so far up there now I wonder if he can get any air!

Please Joe go away far away

[54anickel]

12. Half a trillion dollars to fight against 10,000 to 15,000 terrorists. Hey

Joe, don't you think there might have been an easier way to impose that "better life"? Geez, these people disgust me!

[speedoo]

13. Was this before or after he took off his knee pads? n/t

[BikeWriter]

15. #### that bastard.

[NastyRiffraff]

17. Lieberman, get outta my party!

We don't need you in the Democratic Party. You're already getting it on in the back seat with the Republicans; make it official and walk down the aisle.

[Sandpiper]

18. Did he give Dubya a smooch afterwards?

Not even Zell Miller would stoop that low.

[Charlie Brown]

19. It's interesting that H. Clinton has the same position as Lieberman

yet is shunned not nearly so virulently as Joe at DU.

A plague on both their houses, I say.

[oregonindy]

20. ZELL LIEberman needs to be defeated in the primaries!

[young_at_heart]

21. Al Gore made a HUGE mistake when he chose Lieberman

What possessed him to pick such an unsuitable person (and not representative of the Dem party)? Just listening to his nasal voice turned me off!!

[Hardrada]

22. LIEberman, go fuck yourself!

You quisling douchebag!!

[jazzjunkysue]

23. Randy gave Joe a lifetime membership in the Zell Miller club, today.

It was her christmas gift to Joe. Very funny.

[0007]

24. How does Lieberber know how many terrorist are in Iraq?

Isn't that rather presumptuous?

Joesph Lieberman belongs in a mental institution

[progressivebydesign]

25. Joe has got Ho-mentum... whoring for Bush again. n/t

[liberalhistorian]

35. LOL!

That about sums it up just fine.

[cmutt]

26. Lieberman should just book a room

This is just discusting. Can we just evict him from the party now? Put Lieberman & Bush on a boat & you'd have the makings of a Minnesota Vikings boat trip.

[DuaneBidoux]

27. When is this guy going to come clean and JUST CHANGE PARTIES!

[MisterP]

37. ewww, I keep reading "panties"!!!

darn you!

[Crunchy Frog]

28. Please just switch parties Joe

and let a real Democrat run against you for that seat so that at least there can be an honest race.

He's obviously more loyal to the Repukes than he's ever been to the Democrats. Just witness how he went after Clinton for lying about a sexual indiscretion, while attacking his own party for holding Bush to account for lying the nation into a war. We need him out of this party.

[leesa]

30. What a slimebad Lieberman is. There were no terrorists there before we

illegally launched an unprovoked invasion. They are fighting us, you bastard!

[DeadManInc]

31. Need a crowbar to pry his lips off of Shrubs ass.

[classics]

32. 100% Whore

How does this republican trash keep getting elected as a Democrat?

[tritsofme]

38. Lieberman says Bush turned corner on Iraq

WASHINGTON -- Connecticut Sen. Joe Lieberman, whose vocal pro-war support for President Bush has rankled fellow Democrats, emerged from a White House meeting Friday saying the president has turned the corner on Iraq in recent weeks.

Lieberman cited the substantial turnout in the Iraq elections this week and Bush's four major speeches on the war as key reasons for the turnaround.

"The last two weeks have been critically important and I believe may be seen as a turning point in the war in Iraq and the war on terrorism," Lieberman told reporters after he and a bipartisan group of senators met with Bush and top administration officials on the war.

"I believe the president has begun a new conversation with the American people, looking back and talking again about why we went into Iraq to overthrow Saddam Hussein, why we remain there, why success in Iraq is so critical to America's national security, and how we intend to win," he said.

Lieberman has become a Bush administration favorite while partisan sniping over the war has grown more intense.

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I just really don't understand Lieberman. There is no political advantage in supporting Bush anymore.

[Larkspur]

39. Lieberman supports Bush because he supported regime change in Iraq

for years. Bush did what he wanted. Lieberman supported regime change because he believed the lies Chalabi told him that a Saddam-free Iraq would become an Israeli-friendly Muslim nation. Lieberman will best be remembered as a FOOL.

[leftchick]

62. And instead we now have an Iran twice the size

Iran was the victor in this election. Lieberman is a neocon with delusional visions of grandeur. He is indeed a fool as well.

[saigon68]

40. Lieberman has become a Bush administration favorite

Joementum has become quite the SHILL for the CHIMPANZEE (his master)

[nickgutierrez]

41. * has "turned" so many corners...

...that he wound up right back where he started. Check his approval rating pre-9/11, and check it now. Full circle, I'm telling you. :)

[Evergreen Emerald]

63. That is what I thought

So many corners--is he in a maze?

[Al-CIAda]

71. This image would make for a good political cartoon.

...if it hasn't been done already.

[Porcupine]

97. Circling a fence post? They turn those corners one after another

and seem to be able to do it awfully fast.

[5thGenDemocrat]

93. Not a maze

More like two dozen turns to the right.
John
Somebody's got to stop this guy.

[shanti]

94. he's in a box!

;)

[wookie294]

98. Lieberman is right

[SkiGuy]

42. Maybe he meant "Went over the edge"??

[Mokito]

45. Hey, a vertical corner is STILL a corner!

:eyes: :shrug: :think: :eyes:

[Critters2]

83. I was thinkin'

"round the bend". Same diff.

:crazy:

[xchrom]

43. lieberman advertising the new and inproved

bushco.

lieberman wanted this invasion for reasons that have nothing to do with the security of the u.s.

[LaurenG]

44. We have turned so many corners according to bush et al

that we are now just going in circles. I have more faith in my republican boss than I do Joe Lieberman. We need to turn around and pull the knife out of our collective back. That man is worse than a republican, he borders on neocon. I don't ever want to hear another word about supporting him because he's a dem. I don't care what he's done in the past that was good, HE has turned the corner and is no longer a democrat IMO.

[Democat]

46. Lieberman campaigning for Republicans in the 2006 election!

He is helping the Republicans by saying shit like this. They will use his quotes in TV ads.

[Vinca]

47. How are they going to spin this corner thing after they open up

the roads to traffic and the killing starts again? It's a maze, Joe, not a corner.

[Meldread]

48. Lieberman: the new Zell Miller.

When are we going to start treating him, and those like him, like we treated Zell Miller? Lieberman is a Republican in everything but name. He is basically campaigning for Republicans every time he opens his mouth.

My hunch is that in 2008 he wants to be the Vice President on the Republican Ticket. They'll spin it as trying to "unify" America. Giuliani/Lieberman 2008! (The ironic thing, being of course, is the fact that Giuliani is more liberal than Lieberman.)

[BikeWriter]

49. We're supposed to believe him why?

[kurth]

50. Lieberman says he is turning tricks for Bush

[tinfoilinfor2005]

51. Hey Joe, how would you like to be my new defense secretary?

Sit up Joe. Roll over Joe. That's a good boy, Joe.

Any bets on Joe getting that job after he has performed for the master?

[indypaul]

67. But Joe,

you have your head so far up your ass don't sit down
or you will break your neck.

[Horse with no Name]

52. I wish we could wrap his stupid ass up and put a bow on his ugly head

and re-gift him to the Repugs this year.

[mmonk]

53. So, the meeting was about

kissing bush's butt.

[Demeter]

54. Say Rather Bush Has Been Cornered On Iraq!

The rat is trapped and ready to be caged.

[Enraged_Ape]

55. He meant to say that Bush has gone around the bend...

or on a bender.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

56. Lieberman continues to support this illegal and immoral war because....

...he knows that our continued presence in the Middle East satisfies certain objectives of the policies of Israel with whom he is very closely aligned. Lieberman is also closely alligned with the NeoCons in the Pentagon who also support Israel's policies.

In short, Lieberman's interests are chained to the interests of the NeoCons...as they go, so shall Lieberman.

[lumpy]

65. Joe forgoes " pledging allegience

to the United States and to the republic for which it stands".

[artr2]

57. How can Joe see

with his head stuck up bush's ass?

[Bread and Circus]

58. Lieberman is so full of ape#$@%

:puke:

[Beetwasher]

59. I Can't Believe This, I Really Cannot Believe This Fucking Idiot

It's incredible.

[Devil Dog Dem]

60. Jeebus! Will Connecticut Dems please put this guy out of our misery?

PLEASE primary him! I will personally write a check!

JOE MUST GO!! JOE MUST GO!! JOE MUST GO!!

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

61. Yeah he did. Then he found even more moratr shells. n/t

[mitchum]

64. And Joe's nose was almost broken as a result

[dooner]

66. Lieberman turned the corner a long time ago..

and he might as well stay there because the guy is a creepy failure. How did Al Gore EVER get stuck with
this guy as a VP candidate? There is nothing that comes out of his mouth that I want to hear.

[Voltaire99]

68. Pro-war, pro-censorship, pro-Bush: what a fucking ass!

And only five years ago, he might have become veep. Scary thought!

Lieberman is the poster boy for principles. As in: this is what happens to the party when it abandons them and panders to the worst in Americans.

[WhiteTara]

69. we've been turning corners for years

and every one has run smack into a brick wall of violence and resentment. Loserman go join the repuklicans. We don't want you, we don't like you, we don't need you. GET OUT

[niallmac]

70. He's a Yellow Dog Republican

[Crunchy Frog]

72. I wonder if Joe deliberately sabatoged

the Gore/Lieberman ticket in 2000, and helped to throw the election. It seems to me that he finds Bush a vastly more satisfactory president than he would have found Gore. He was part of the reason why I voted for Nader in that election, and I wonder how many other people were similarly influenced.

I just wish he would switch parties already.

[PassingFair]

75. I know one thing for sure...he deliberately sabotaged

...Howard Dean in 04, it was the total reason for his presence in the race! I would as soon spit at him as look at him.
I could go on and on, but I won't.

[Crunchy Frog]

85. Are you talking about somebody else?

I thought Lieberman was in the race well before Dean was.:shrug:

[depakid]

87. He couldn't have done much more deliberately

He sat down and made Cheney- a man with about the most extreme voting record in the House look to be reasonable and gentlemanly in the VP debate.

And looked like the same simpering whiner we see now several times a week.

He's done more damage to the party than most Republicans.

[Crunchy Frog]

88. I remember watching that debate.

I almost got physically ill. It was more like a love-fest than like a debate between political opponents.

[depakid]

89. Worst political "debate" I ever saw

Quite literally.

Went a long way toward taking Cheney's abominable record (and hence Bush's "compasionate conservative" lies) off of the table.

[robbedvoter]

99. Wonder no more: the fake military ballots had a Gore victory -202 votes

as per NYT (eliminating them, that is). It was Holly Joe, without consulting Al Gore that went on MTP and declared that "all military votes should be counted"

[Arugula Latte]

73. It's unbelieveable that this asshat Lieberman, who had his election

as vice president blatantly STOLEN by this gang of thugs, is doing his best to kiss their ass three ways to Sunday.

It makes me wonder ...

[Wordie]

74. Has anyone actually counted the number of "turning points" we've had?

It might be an interesting exercise. It seems we keep turning corners only to find ourselves in a position that is worse than before. Lieberman has no clue.

[followthemoney]

101. Bush is forming a dodecahedron. A twelve sided polygon. /nt

[IndianaGreen]

76. Holy Joe: "We went into Iraq to overthrow Saddam Hussein"

Holy Joe and Bush/Cheney frightened the American people with tales of WMDs in order to get the public to support the criminal invasion of Iraq. Had Bush said that the sole reason for going to war was regime change, not even the AIPAC puppets in Congress would have voted for war.

Holy Joe is a traitor to this country, to the Democratic Party, and he has become a war criminal and a de facto member of the Bush dictatorship.

[tabasco]

77. How about taking a walk in the streets of Baghdad, Joe?

Walk the walk, Joe.

Go to Baghdad and walk down the streets. Turn a few corners there, Joe.

What's that? You have a lot of other stuff to do?

Like kissing a warmonger's ass and supporting a criminal corporate cabal?

You are a coward just like Bu$h, Joe. A disgrace to the People of Connecticut and all Democrats.

[Rainscents]

78. I can't stand the f@$ker!

[Ernesto]

79. Why doesn't joan just become a repuke & get it over with?

[hippiechick]

80. Turned a corner and is now down an alley, alone, in the dark....

... methinks. :freak:

[AndyTiedye]

81. It is all about Israel. They don't want us to leave Iraq. Ever.

[Miss Chybil]

82. Perhaps he's just overly supportive of Israel? I don't know, but it

doesn't make sense to me.

[Critters2]

84. That would matter, and make sense

if he were in the Knesset. As it is, his job is to do what's right for this country, and particularly for his constituents in CT. If he wants to set Israel's policy, he should make use of his right of return.

[Miss Chybil]

102. You know what they say, about a man serving two masters.

I agree with you. He needs to make a choice.

[Beacho]

86. Beacho sez Lieberman can kiss my ass

Film at eleven

How is the 'insurgency' in Connetticutt going to get rid if this cancer?

[Cha]

90. Where's that political

strip when ya need it? The one where bush and cheney are walking toward a corner and about to turn and on the other side is a Ferocious Monster(named Iraq) ready to eat them.

[Guaranteed]

91. SEND JOE!

G.I. Joe. :)

[otohara]

92. The Iraqi's Want Us The FUCK OUT Their Country

and that's because of a small cabal of greedy oil fucks with too much power, greedy corporations and a man simple moron of a man named Bush.

Leiberman really should acknowledge the other fellows over who have also turned a corner and a few billion buck too...Thanks to the neocons at PNAC, Carlyle, Halliburton and others.

Joe Lieberman salutes you! :patriot:

[madmark]

95. Headline: Lieberman's mouth unattaches from Bush' ass

long enough to make synchopantic statement.

[classysassy]

96. Joe and Zell

a couple of misguided dems.

[kentuck]

100. If Joe spent less time worrying about whether Bush has "turned the corner"

and more time worrying about whether our country had "turned the corner", he and his Party would be much better off, imo...

[Arkana]

103. Lieberman disgusts me more every day.

"Yes, master, please shove the hot poker farther in."

[orleans]

104. lieberman swallows & so does mccain!

sorry--it's the first thing that came to mind.

[newspeak]

105. what's really scary

is he could have been our vice president. actually, he could be Bush's vice president.

[ecoalex]

106. Suck a lemon joe

[lakeguy]

107. can't we just kick him out? seriously.