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Redstone
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Tue Mar-21-06 08:13 AM Original message |
Neighbor charged with shooting teen (walked on his grass) |
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THUNDER HANDS
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Tue Mar-21-06 08:16 AM Response to Original message |
1. my grandfather was psychotic when it came to kids walking on his lawn |
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Rowdyboy
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Tue Mar-21-06 08:17 AM Response to Original message |
2. Hope there are no blood stains on his tidy lawn.....Can't have that, |
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trogdor
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Tue Mar-21-06 08:58 AM Response to Reply #2 |
27. Blood makes the grass grow. |
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wellst0nev0ter
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Tue Mar-21-06 01:48 PM Response to Reply #27 |
111. Wouldn't Blood Mess Up The pH? (nt) |
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KittyWampus
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Tue Mar-21-06 10:55 AM Response to Reply #2 |
58. i hate myself for laughing at that comment |
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redwitch
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Tue Mar-21-06 06:38 PM Response to Reply #58 |
212. As the mom of two teenage sons I can't see the humor. |
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NIGHT TRIPPER
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Tue Mar-21-06 04:00 PM Response to Reply #2 |
177. who will take care of the lawn when the old guy reocates to a prison? n/t |
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baby_mouse
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Tue Mar-21-06 07:39 PM Response to Reply #2 |
236. What about the poor blades of GRASS? |
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acmejack
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Tue Mar-21-06 08:17 AM Response to Original message |
3. Second amendment right |
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Untermonkey
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Tue Mar-21-06 08:19 AM Response to Reply #3 |
5. What right? |
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acmejack
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Tue Mar-21-06 08:28 AM Response to Reply #5 |
9. You'll get no argument from me. |
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Dolomite
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Tue Mar-21-06 02:10 PM Response to Reply #9 |
120. I think that is a gross mischaracterization of your fellow DU’ers. |
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LostinVA
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Tue Mar-21-06 07:11 PM Response to Reply #120 |
228. Unfortunately, the poster was right |
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Catch22Dem
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Thu Mar-23-06 10:30 PM Response to Reply #120 |
311. Why do you think we call it the gungeon? |
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Centered
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Thu Mar-23-06 06:06 PM Response to Reply #9 |
301. Possibly |
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Kingshakabobo
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Tue Mar-21-06 10:41 AM Response to Reply #5 |
51. The kid WAS on his property. |
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ProudDad
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Wed Mar-22-06 02:06 AM Response to Reply #5 |
252. The constitution |
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LostinVA
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Wed Mar-22-06 09:27 AM Response to Reply #252 |
259. I know -- |
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currents
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Wed Mar-22-06 09:30 AM Response to Reply #252 |
261. That's bullshit |
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Untermonkey
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Tue Mar-21-06 08:18 AM Response to Original message |
4. Who's responsible for the murder? |
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BR_Parkway
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Tue Mar-21-06 08:26 AM Response to Reply #4 |
7. Thank you, it's not the gun at fault and those of us who have treat them |
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wicket
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Tue Mar-21-06 09:12 AM Response to Reply #7 |
34. Well said |
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progressivebydesign
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Tue Mar-21-06 10:09 AM Response to Reply #7 |
42. If gun culture was not artificially inserted into our culture... |
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Untermonkey
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Tue Mar-21-06 11:01 AM Response to Reply #42 |
60. As it should be. |
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KansDem
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Tue Mar-21-06 01:09 PM Response to Reply #60 |
97. "...my rights can't be legislated out of existence." |
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Bassic
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Tue Mar-21-06 02:21 PM Response to Reply #60 |
131. That amendment was passed in times where |
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Occulus
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Tue Mar-21-06 02:45 PM Response to Reply #131 |
143. I wish I lived in your perfect world |
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Bassic
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Tue Mar-21-06 02:46 PM Response to Reply #143 |
144. Right, cause people barging into your room with a knife |
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Untermonkey
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Tue Mar-21-06 04:16 PM Response to Reply #144 |
184. You are either armed or you are a victim. |
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LostinVA
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Tue Mar-21-06 04:59 PM Response to Reply #184 |
191. That is totally bogus |
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Untermonkey
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Wed Mar-22-06 04:25 AM Response to Reply #191 |
256. My appologies to Bassic. |
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LostinVA
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Wed Mar-22-06 09:28 AM Response to Reply #256 |
260. Thanks -- Unter -- a rare apology on DU! |
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Bassic
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Tue Mar-21-06 06:59 PM Response to Reply #184 |
216. Yeah, I'll tell you how that went the next time I get attacked by |
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Realityhack
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Thu Mar-23-06 08:20 PM Response to Reply #143 |
309. I hate to say it... |
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Untermonkey
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Tue Mar-21-06 04:17 PM Response to Reply #131 |
185. The right to self defense didn't go away. |
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Bassic
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Tue Mar-21-06 07:05 PM Response to Reply #185 |
223. No, and nobody is taking it away either. |
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cobalt1999
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Tue Mar-21-06 06:34 PM Response to Reply #131 |
208. so that right is no longer valid? |
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Bassic
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Tue Mar-21-06 07:08 PM Response to Reply #208 |
226. White people used to have the right to own black people |
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cobalt1999
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Tue Mar-21-06 08:02 PM Response to Reply #226 |
238. so because of slavery, any right can be argued away? |
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Bassic
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Tue Mar-21-06 09:42 PM Response to Reply #238 |
242. No not any right. |
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stevekatz
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Wed Mar-22-06 10:00 AM Response to Reply #242 |
266. people |
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Bassic
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Wed Mar-22-06 10:03 AM Response to Reply #266 |
269. I never said they shouldn't be able to own guns. |
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stevekatz
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Wed Mar-22-06 10:11 AM Response to Reply #269 |
270. what are you talking about |
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Bassic
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Wed Mar-22-06 10:20 AM Response to Reply #270 |
271. It's on the rise, but only in certain areas, and is still very restricted |
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Phx_Dem
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Tue Mar-21-06 06:31 PM Response to Reply #60 |
207. no you don't |
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ProudDad
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Wed Mar-22-06 02:12 AM Response to Reply #60 |
253. No, you don't know how to read... |
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LostinVA
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Tue Mar-21-06 12:58 PM Response to Reply #42 |
93. I agree -- there's this weird "Wild West" mindset in so many people |
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Bassic
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Tue Mar-21-06 02:25 PM Response to Reply #93 |
134. Most guns in Canada are hunting rifles. |
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LostinVA
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Tue Mar-21-06 02:46 PM Response to Reply #134 |
145. No argument from me |
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mac56
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Tue Mar-21-06 02:32 PM Response to Reply #42 |
140. "Guns don't kill people....people kill people"?! |
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stevekatz
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Wed Mar-22-06 10:01 AM Response to Reply #140 |
268. more accurately |
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proud2BlibKansan
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Tue Mar-21-06 02:14 PM Response to Reply #7 |
124. And how easy would it have been for this elderly man |
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Centered
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Thu Mar-23-06 06:13 PM Response to Reply #124 |
302. you mean... |
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teknomanzer
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Tue Mar-21-06 10:04 PM Response to Reply #7 |
245. Guns don't kill people, jackasses with guns kill people... |
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anitar1
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Wed Mar-22-06 01:56 AM Response to Reply #7 |
250. His family did not realize that Gramps was mentally off ? |
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moodforaday
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Tue Mar-21-06 08:27 AM Response to Reply #4 |
8. Ease of use |
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proud2BlibKansan
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Tue Mar-21-06 02:15 PM Response to Reply #8 |
127. Here here! |
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The Magistrate
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Tue Mar-21-06 02:20 PM Response to Reply #8 |
130. That Is Indeed The Point, Sir |
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LostinVA
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Tue Mar-21-06 07:05 PM Response to Reply #130 |
224. As well as making it up close and personal, Magistrate... |
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zanne
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Tue Mar-21-06 08:35 AM Response to Reply #4 |
14. Oh, give it up. |
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Untermonkey
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Tue Mar-21-06 08:41 AM Response to Reply #14 |
17. I'm not defending this man in any way, shape, or form. |
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Phx_Dem
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Tue Mar-21-06 10:02 AM Response to Reply #17 |
40. you choose to ignore context |
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Dolomite
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Tue Mar-21-06 02:15 PM Response to Reply #40 |
126. You'd be happier if he'd of been shot with a crossbow? |
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NIGHT TRIPPER
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Tue Mar-21-06 04:02 PM Response to Reply #126 |
180. The old man might have beat the kid with a sprinkler head on a hose! (n/t) |
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Phx_Dem
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Tue Mar-21-06 06:24 PM Response to Reply #126 |
206. I'd be happier if the kid was alive |
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Mountainman
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Tue Mar-21-06 09:01 AM Response to Reply #14 |
28. I see, "give it up" and "grow up" a lot in these kinds of rants. |
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Untermonkey
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Tue Mar-21-06 09:11 AM Response to Reply #28 |
32. Not uncommon around here. |
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Ronnie
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Tue Mar-21-06 10:19 AM Response to Reply #32 |
48. Bizarro |
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Untermonkey
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Tue Mar-21-06 10:57 AM Response to Reply #48 |
59. Love the cartoon! |
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Bridget Burke
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Tue Mar-21-06 11:20 AM Response to Reply #32 |
65. Are you really in the UK (Per your profile)? |
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Untermonkey
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Tue Mar-21-06 04:18 PM Response to Reply #65 |
186. I live in the UK, but I'm a U.S. citizen. |
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proud2BlibKansan
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Tue Mar-21-06 02:16 PM Response to Reply #14 |
128. Beautiful |
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Toots
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Tue Mar-21-06 10:00 AM Response to Reply #4 |
39. Guns are sooo much easier though |
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Tue Mar-21-06 10:10 AM Response to Reply #39 |
43. It was a shotgun and not a handgun... |
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Tue Mar-21-06 12:21 PM Response to Reply #43 |
77. Oh you mean he was "Peppered" |
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rexcat
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Tue Mar-21-06 12:57 PM Response to Reply #77 |
92. Not really... |
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Bassic
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Tue Mar-21-06 02:29 PM Response to Reply #43 |
138. True, but you still have to keep them under lock and key |
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rexcat
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Tue Mar-21-06 09:57 PM Response to Reply #138 |
244. This situation should have been avoidable... |
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Bassic
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Wed Mar-22-06 07:30 AM Response to Reply #244 |
258. That is completely right. |
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Untermonkey
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Tue Mar-21-06 04:21 PM Response to Reply #43 |
188. Even in the UK shotguns are legal |
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Tue Mar-21-06 10:44 AM Response to Reply #4 |
52. I've only ever heard people accuse the gun owners, not the guns |
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dsc
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Tue Mar-21-06 06:49 PM Response to Reply #4 |
214. Go ahead |
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Catch22Dem
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Thu Mar-23-06 10:32 PM Response to Reply #4 |
312. Always a ridiculous counter argument |
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teenagebambam
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Tue Mar-21-06 08:23 AM Response to Original message |
6. Forgive me, I couldn't resist |
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BR_Parkway
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Tue Mar-21-06 08:28 AM Response to Reply #6 |
10. Man, if they realized that some on the left are gun owners, maybe they |
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Tue Mar-21-06 08:31 AM Response to Reply #6 |
12. WTF! Holy Moly that is some convulated thinking. n/t |
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FlaGranny
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Tue Mar-21-06 11:06 AM Response to Reply #6 |
61. I once |
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SemperEadem
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Tue Mar-21-06 01:17 PM Response to Reply #61 |
102. exactly |
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LostinVA
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Tue Mar-21-06 07:13 PM Response to Reply #102 |
229. Nor is it a reason to be murdered |
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SemperEadem
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Wed Mar-22-06 11:13 PM Response to Reply #229 |
293. who said it was? |
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tenshi816
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Wed Mar-22-06 06:10 AM Response to Reply #61 |
257. Interesting what you said about your fence. |
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LostinVA
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Wed Mar-22-06 09:30 AM Response to Reply #257 |
262. It's the title of a very famous poem |
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tenshi816
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Wed Mar-22-06 10:56 AM Response to Reply #262 |
276. Good Lord, you're right... |
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LostinVA
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Wed Mar-22-06 10:59 AM Response to Reply #276 |
277. Just not enough caffeine today! |
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Gormy Cuss
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Thu Mar-23-06 03:34 PM Response to Reply #276 |
300. Oh the irony. It's called "The Mending Wall" |
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tenshi816
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Thu Mar-23-06 06:32 PM Response to Reply #300 |
304. I can accept that idea in the States, |
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Gormy Cuss
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Thu Mar-23-06 06:41 PM Response to Reply #304 |
305. Oh, not criticizing you, just commenting on how we use that quote |
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sam the dawg
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Tue Mar-21-06 01:01 PM Response to Reply #6 |
94. re #6 more to this story - teenagebambam |
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LostinVA
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Tue Mar-21-06 02:51 PM Response to Reply #94 |
148. Cutting across a lawn isn't bad juvenile behavior |
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sam the dawg
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Tue Mar-21-06 03:07 PM Response to Reply #148 |
158. bad juvenile behavior |
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LostinVA
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Tue Mar-21-06 03:13 PM Response to Reply #158 |
159. I don't have kids, and I suggest you cool down the ad hominen attack |
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LostinVA
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Tue Mar-21-06 03:14 PM Response to Reply #158 |
161. Oh, and you base your case ON A FREE REPUBLIC POST??? |
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LostinVA
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Tue Mar-21-06 03:18 PM Response to Reply #158 |
162. I would like a link where there';s proof this kid harassed the guy |
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barb162
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Thu Mar-23-06 10:41 PM Response to Reply #162 |
313. other than this one little thing from the story |
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zanne
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Tue Mar-21-06 04:04 PM Response to Reply #148 |
181. People cut through my yard all the time |
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LostinVA
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Tue Mar-21-06 05:02 PM Response to Reply #181 |
193. That;s how I feel -- the kids aren't doing anything bad |
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Tue Mar-21-06 07:33 PM Response to Reply #6 |
234. "there i likely more to this story - I'll just fill it in any way I like" |
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johncoby2
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Tue Mar-21-06 08:29 AM Response to Original message |
11. Guns don't kill people. |
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400Years
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Tue Mar-21-06 09:20 AM Response to Reply #11 |
36. people with CARS kill MORE people |
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Javaman
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Tue Mar-21-06 10:18 AM Response to Reply #36 |
47. Ahh but how many people purposely go out driving with the idea |
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Solon
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Tue Mar-21-06 10:26 AM Response to Reply #47 |
49. Speaking of which... |
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Javaman
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Tue Mar-21-06 10:51 AM Response to Reply #49 |
56. There you go! Video games are the root of all evil.... |
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Solon
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Tue Mar-21-06 11:16 AM Response to Reply #56 |
63. I guess that's the reason Shrooms are so popular as well, Super Mario... |
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Wed Mar-22-06 02:44 PM Response to Reply #63 |
282. What about the board game Clue? |
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uncle ray
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Tue Mar-21-06 11:40 AM Response to Reply #49 |
68. remember, that very thing happened a few weeks ago. |
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Solon
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Tue Mar-21-06 11:49 AM Response to Reply #68 |
72. SUVs are dangerous for other reasons besides the amount of... |
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uncle ray
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Tue Mar-21-06 01:31 PM Response to Reply #72 |
105. huh? |
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Bassic
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Tue Mar-21-06 02:33 PM Response to Reply #72 |
141. The point is that |
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400Years
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Tue Mar-21-06 02:39 PM Response to Reply #141 |
142. And yet far more people have died for your right to drive than |
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Bassic
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Tue Mar-21-06 02:47 PM Response to Reply #142 |
146. The fact of the matter is that the sole purpose of a gun |
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400Years
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Tue Mar-21-06 03:05 PM Response to Reply #146 |
156. And? |
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Bassic
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Tue Mar-21-06 03:53 PM Response to Reply #156 |
174. I've already addressed the relevence of this amendment nt |
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Bassic
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Tue Mar-21-06 02:52 PM Response to Reply #142 |
149. Furthurmore, what the heck to the people who die in Iraq |
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400Years
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Tue Mar-21-06 03:06 PM Response to Reply #149 |
157. now you are just confusing yourself |
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Bassic
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Tue Mar-21-06 03:57 PM Response to Reply #157 |
176. This is from your post just above |
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400Years
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Tue Mar-21-06 04:02 PM Response to Reply #176 |
178. maybe you don't even listen to the words that come out of your mouth |
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Bassic
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Tue Mar-21-06 04:09 PM Response to Reply #178 |
182. Ok, I must have missed the part where insurgents drove cars into them. |
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Critters2
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Tue Mar-21-06 10:52 AM Response to Reply #47 |
57. And car accidents are |
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400Years
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Tue Mar-21-06 11:26 AM Response to Reply #57 |
66. cars are inherently dangerous, and will always result in death |
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Javaman
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Tue Mar-21-06 11:52 AM Response to Reply #66 |
74. I find it odd that you state... |
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400Years
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Tue Mar-21-06 12:32 PM Response to Reply #74 |
81. If it is so easy why the death toll |
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Javaman
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Tue Mar-21-06 12:41 PM Response to Reply #81 |
85. Ummm you missed my point... |
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400Years
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Tue Mar-21-06 12:54 PM Response to Reply #85 |
89. I wasn't referring to every car trip |
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Javaman
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Tue Mar-21-06 02:12 PM Response to Reply #89 |
121. ahh okay. nt |
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Critters2
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Tue Mar-21-06 12:39 PM Response to Reply #66 |
83. Do you know people who actually aim their cars at others, |
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400Years
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Tue Mar-21-06 12:51 PM Response to Reply #83 |
87. stupid question |
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Critters2
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Tue Mar-21-06 12:54 PM Response to Reply #87 |
90. You still missed my point |
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400Years
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Tue Mar-21-06 01:04 PM Response to Reply #90 |
95. I didn't miss that at all and I understand very well what guns are for |
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Critters2
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Tue Mar-21-06 01:38 PM Response to Reply #95 |
107. Gun advocates never answer this for me... |
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400Years
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Tue Mar-21-06 01:46 PM Response to Reply #107 |
109. ah, changing the subject I see |
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Critters2
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Tue Mar-21-06 01:53 PM Response to Reply #109 |
116. Okay, |
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400Years
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Tue Mar-21-06 02:03 PM Response to Reply #116 |
118. your parsing |
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Critters2
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Tue Mar-21-06 02:13 PM Response to Reply #118 |
123. Exactly the kind of reasoned argument I've come to expect from |
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400Years
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Tue Mar-21-06 02:24 PM Response to Reply #123 |
133. Resorting to insults I see |
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Tue Mar-21-06 02:26 PM Response to Reply #133 |
135. Remember, you're arguing in favor of a man who shot a 15 year old |
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Tue Mar-21-06 02:31 PM Response to Reply #135 |
139. Now you are losing it, stupid accusations like that betray you |
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Tue Mar-21-06 02:23 PM Response to Reply #66 |
132. I have been in more than one car wreck and I am still alive |
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Tue Mar-21-06 02:29 PM Response to Reply #132 |
137. we've already gone over all this |
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Tue Mar-21-06 03:14 PM Response to Reply #137 |
160. I did read the thread |
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Tue Mar-21-06 03:20 PM Response to Reply #160 |
163. You can't even address it. |
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Tue Mar-21-06 03:34 PM Response to Reply #163 |
167. You're the one |
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Tue Mar-21-06 03:42 PM Response to Reply #167 |
169. talk about paranoid and delusional |
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Tue Mar-21-06 05:05 PM Response to Reply #167 |
194. It;'s cool, Proud2 -- just forget it |
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Tue Mar-21-06 09:36 PM Response to Reply #194 |
241. But but |
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Wed Mar-22-06 09:31 AM Response to Reply #241 |
263. I know -- don't you feel special??? |
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Tue Mar-21-06 11:46 AM Response to Reply #57 |
69. You know, you have a point there... |
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Tue Mar-21-06 12:22 PM Response to Reply #36 |
78. Cars are regulated and licensed though aren't they? |
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Tue Mar-21-06 12:33 PM Response to Reply #78 |
82. I guess that is why they are so "safe" |
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Tue Mar-21-06 12:43 PM Response to Reply #82 |
86. so let me ask you a basic question: do you drive? nt |
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Tue Mar-21-06 12:56 PM Response to Reply #86 |
91. Sometimes, and I assume a certain amount of risk |
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Tue Mar-21-06 02:13 PM Response to Reply #91 |
122. Now that I understand what you mean by a car culture... |
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Tue Mar-21-06 01:13 PM Response to Reply #78 |
99. So are guns... |
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Tue Mar-21-06 06:43 PM Response to Reply #36 |
213. Using a car for its designed purpose doesn't kill someone. |
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Tue Mar-21-06 07:07 PM Response to Reply #213 |
225. That argument is rational, Mac... it has no place on this thread! |
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Tue Mar-21-06 12:30 PM Response to Reply #11 |
80. CRAZY people with guns kill people... |
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Tue Mar-21-06 08:31 AM Response to Original message |
13. This is disgusting. I would almost bet this guy is a Republican. |
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Tue Mar-21-06 08:35 AM Response to Reply #13 |
15. Could be a Libertarian... |
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Tue Mar-21-06 08:43 AM Response to Reply #15 |
19. Absolute right doesn't apply in this case. |
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Tue Mar-21-06 08:48 AM Response to Reply #19 |
22. One thing to understand about Capital L Libertarians... |
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Tue Mar-21-06 08:55 AM Response to Reply #22 |
24. I agree with you. |
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Tue Mar-21-06 09:02 AM Response to Reply #19 |
29. Private Citizens committed 246 Justifiable Homicides in 2003. |
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Tue Mar-21-06 09:07 AM Response to Reply #29 |
30. My personal belief is that... |
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Tue Mar-21-06 09:12 AM Response to Reply #30 |
33. Hear hear! |
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jody
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Tue Mar-21-06 12:17 PM Response to Reply #30 |
76. Your reply means LEOs should not kill a person committing a robbery. nt |
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Wed Mar-22-06 02:25 AM Response to Reply #76 |
255. Bzzzzt, WRONG!!!! |
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Tue Mar-21-06 08:36 AM Response to Original message |
16. Here's the pic of the fellow who chose his lawn over life. |
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Tue Mar-21-06 10:11 AM Response to Reply #16 |
44. I'm so unbelievably sick of angry white men. |
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Tue Mar-21-06 10:44 AM Response to Reply #44 |
53. I'm sick of anyone who shoots an innocent person |
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Tue Mar-21-06 11:48 AM Response to Reply #44 |
71. I'm angry, old and white |
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Tue Mar-21-06 11:50 AM Response to Reply #44 |
73. What about angry black men? |
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Tue Mar-21-06 02:49 PM Response to Reply #73 |
147. Notice the common denominator there, though |
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Wed Mar-22-06 10:26 AM Response to Reply #147 |
274. I'm 48 and I resent that statement |
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Tue Mar-21-06 07:20 PM Response to Reply #44 |
230. Is that a bigoted statement? |
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Wed Mar-22-06 10:25 AM Response to Reply #44 |
273. Threre were THREE shootings at Dennys restaurants in CA last week |
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Wed Mar-22-06 02:22 AM Response to Reply #16 |
254. Why do I think he's probably "Pro Life" as well? |
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Tue Mar-21-06 08:41 AM Response to Original message |
18. Riots in Cinci, riots in Toledo, shootings in Batavia. Bloody Ohio |
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Tue Mar-21-06 08:45 AM Response to Original message |
20. What a real shame |
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Tue Mar-21-06 08:47 AM Response to Original message |
21. So, I wonder |
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Tue Mar-21-06 08:56 AM Response to Reply #21 |
26. I hope he lives a very long time in prison. |
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Tue Mar-21-06 08:54 AM Response to Original message |
23. Some people may snap over anything and kill someone. I assume those |
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Tue Mar-21-06 10:18 AM Response to Reply #23 |
46. 51 times a car was used for murder vs. over 12,000 with guns that year. |
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Tue Mar-21-06 12:13 PM Response to Reply #46 |
75. Correction 9,638 murders with firearms in 2003. All 14,408 murders in |
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Tue Mar-21-06 03:55 PM Response to Reply #46 |
175. over 40000 people a year killed by cars |
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Tue Mar-21-06 06:54 PM Response to Reply #175 |
215. 40,000...killed yearly in U.S. auto accidents??? |
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Wed Mar-22-06 01:58 AM Response to Reply #215 |
251. 44,929 Overall Motor Vehicle Deaths in 2003 in the U.S. See WISQARS at |
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Wed Mar-22-06 09:32 AM Response to Reply #251 |
264. That's deaths, not murders -- huge difference |
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Wed Mar-22-06 06:40 PM Response to Reply #264 |
286. Post # 46 said "killed by cars" not murders. n/t |
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Wed Mar-22-06 08:25 PM Response to Reply #286 |
289. Sorry -- you can't equate accidents with murder |
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Wed Mar-22-06 08:33 PM Response to Reply #289 |
290. Facts I quoted speak for them self. Apparently the boy was murdered |
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Thu Mar-23-06 07:07 PM Response to Reply #290 |
306. Get Real |
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Thu Mar-23-06 09:36 PM Response to Reply #306 |
310. I am a pro-RKBA Democrat and I support our party platform that says, "We |
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Tue Mar-21-06 01:46 PM Original message |
Do you guys get these talking points straight from the NRA? |
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Tue Mar-21-06 02:27 PM Response to Reply #23 |
136. 51 times! |
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400Years
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Tue Mar-21-06 03:53 PM Response to Reply #136 |
173. You are trying to shift away from the real point of the car analogy |
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Tue Mar-21-06 08:41 PM Response to Reply #173 |
239. I know you're having trouble grasping this, |
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Wed Mar-22-06 07:11 PM Response to Reply #239 |
288. SCOTUS has said government is not obligated to protect an individual |
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Tue Mar-21-06 08:56 AM Response to Original message |
25. More of a "American Beauty" type thing...? |
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Tue Mar-21-06 09:09 AM Response to Original message |
31. I wonder if the old coot has dementia? |
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Tue Mar-21-06 09:14 AM Response to Reply #31 |
35. I'm sure his lawyers will try that angle. |
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Tue Mar-21-06 09:27 AM Response to Reply #35 |
37. You were very wise to do that. nt |
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Tue Mar-21-06 10:14 AM Response to Reply #31 |
45. No. probably not. Just that angry old man disease. |
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Tue Mar-21-06 03:50 PM Response to Reply #45 |
172. The Angry Old Men Disease is probably caused by |
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Tue Mar-21-06 09:34 AM Response to Original message |
38. He should get a Mac! |
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Tue Mar-21-06 10:48 AM Response to Reply #38 |
55. I think there needs to be more control on who is allowed to have a gun. |
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Tue Mar-21-06 11:20 AM Response to Reply #55 |
64. Good point |
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Tue Mar-21-06 10:05 AM Response to Original message |
41. Dried blood |
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Tue Mar-21-06 10:34 AM Response to Original message |
50. "Well shoot, I didnt know it would kill him! I mean, Cheney shot a guy in |
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Tue Mar-21-06 10:46 AM Response to Original message |
54. He belongs in prison for murder. |
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Tue Mar-21-06 11:32 AM Response to Reply #54 |
67. He does indeed |
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LostinVA
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Tue Mar-21-06 05:35 PM Response to Reply #54 |
204. Oh people are defending it, but more the "trespassing is illegal" and |
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Tue Mar-21-06 11:06 AM Response to Original message |
62. Who wants to take me up on this bet? |
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Tue Mar-21-06 11:46 AM Response to Original message |
70. Something tells me the NRA will not be highlighting this incident |
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Tue Mar-21-06 12:25 PM Response to Original message |
79. I had someone yell at me one time cause my muddy footed dogs |
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sam the dawg
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Tue Mar-21-06 01:05 PM Response to Reply #79 |
96. grass |
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Tue Mar-21-06 01:46 PM Response to Reply #96 |
110. they didn't poop, it was in the country, a back road across from a woods |
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Tue Mar-21-06 01:29 PM Response to Reply #79 |
104. his unfenced yard can be 600 acres |
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Tue Mar-21-06 01:51 PM Response to Reply #104 |
114. get a grip - this was in the country, I lived in the country, I tramped |
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Tue Mar-21-06 12:40 PM Response to Original message |
84. Would it help if the neighbors could comment on who should have guns? |
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Tue Mar-21-06 12:52 PM Response to Original message |
88. if the kid had been armed and trained |
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Tue Mar-21-06 01:49 PM Response to Reply #88 |
113. LOL! |
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Tue Mar-21-06 01:10 PM Response to Original message |
98. There were so many other means by which he could have |
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Tue Mar-21-06 01:16 PM Response to Reply #98 |
101. ... |
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Tue Mar-21-06 01:48 PM Response to Reply #101 |
112. Can I have some? |
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Tue Mar-21-06 02:05 PM Response to Reply #112 |
119. Certainly, you're most welcome. |
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Tue Mar-21-06 02:55 PM Response to Reply #112 |
150. OMG... unbelieveable.... |
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Tue Mar-21-06 01:36 PM Response to Reply #98 |
106. Yup, the real issue here is trampling on private property |
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SemperEadem
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Tue Mar-21-06 02:18 PM Response to Reply #106 |
129. No.. it's instilling the importance of respecting what is not yours |
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Tue Mar-21-06 03:00 PM Response to Reply #129 |
153. Good grief -- what the heck is so big about cutting across someone's lawn? |
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Wed Mar-22-06 10:20 AM Response to Reply #153 |
272. well |
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LostinVA
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Wed Mar-22-06 11:02 AM Response to Reply #272 |
278. I'm a home owner, too |
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Wed Mar-22-06 11:30 PM Response to Reply #278 |
295. and herein lies the cruxt of the issue |
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Thu Mar-23-06 06:22 PM Response to Reply #295 |
303. Sorry, not to this extent |
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Tue Mar-21-06 03:29 PM Response to Reply #129 |
166. So now it was his "perception of safety"? |
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Wed Mar-22-06 11:14 PM Response to Reply #166 |
294. no one is trying to justify anything... why are you getting so angry? |
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Tue Mar-21-06 03:36 PM Response to Reply #129 |
168. oh bullshit, he said he was annoyed, he didn't say he felt threatened |
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Tue Mar-21-06 07:00 PM Response to Reply #98 |
218. Er, um... |
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LostinVA
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Tue Mar-21-06 07:09 PM Response to Reply #218 |
227. Thanks, Brent -- been bemused about this side of the "argument" all day |
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Tue Mar-21-06 07:25 PM Response to Reply #98 |
231. Hell, forget the garden hose. |
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Tue Mar-21-06 01:15 PM Response to Original message |
100. calmly called 911? onTV they bleeped out 1/2 the words..... |
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Tue Mar-21-06 01:28 PM Response to Original message |
103. it's legal to sell guns to insane people--medical privacy ensures doctors |
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Tue Mar-21-06 01:52 PM Response to Reply #103 |
115. Only if the law has changed recently |
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Tue Mar-21-06 02:59 PM Response to Reply #115 |
152. OK, that's new then, or may be an Illinois law, not federal |
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Tue Mar-21-06 04:20 PM Response to Reply #152 |
187. No, it is a federal law - Gun Control Act of 1968 |
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Wed Mar-22-06 05:18 PM Response to Reply #187 |
283. note thelaw states the person has to be adjudicated or committed to mental |
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Thu Mar-23-06 02:10 PM Response to Reply #283 |
296. Not all "people with mental problems" are dangerous |
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Tue Mar-21-06 01:44 PM Response to Original message |
108. Does anyone think that if there were laws prohibiting gun ownership that |
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Tue Mar-21-06 02:01 PM Response to Original message |
117. Four quick personal stories about strangers on my front lawn... |
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Tue Mar-21-06 02:14 PM Response to Reply #117 |
125. Yes, it's only grass, but |
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Tue Mar-21-06 02:56 PM Response to Reply #117 |
151. Did you shoot them? |
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Tue Mar-21-06 04:59 PM Response to Reply #151 |
192. OF COURSE NOT...! |
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Tue Mar-21-06 05:07 PM Response to Reply #192 |
196. sorry, I skimmed it the first time. |
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Tue Mar-21-06 03:03 PM Response to Reply #117 |
154. Exactly what I said in an above post: IT'S GRASS! |
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Tue Mar-21-06 03:04 PM Response to Original message |
155. You have to take a written and a driving exam to drive a car. |
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Tue Mar-21-06 03:27 PM Response to Reply #155 |
164. I guess that is why cars are so safe. |
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Tue Mar-21-06 05:06 PM Response to Reply #164 |
195. compared to how many ppl drive to how many carry around guns |
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Thu Mar-23-06 07:29 PM Response to Reply #164 |
308. So um... |
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Tue Mar-21-06 05:23 PM Response to Reply #155 |
200. In this state... a NICS background check... |
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Wed Mar-22-06 11:49 AM Response to Reply #155 |
280. Not to OWN a car...just to DRIVE one in public...look at your analogy... |
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Tue Mar-21-06 03:29 PM Response to Original message |
165. Killer's Best Friend: Guns |
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Tue Mar-21-06 03:49 PM Response to Reply #165 |
171. hey--the idea of SHOTGUNS being llegal has never come up ever- |
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Tue Mar-21-06 04:02 PM Response to Reply #171 |
179. A note about the constitution... |
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phylny
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Tue Mar-21-06 07:31 PM Response to Reply #179 |
233. Welcome to DU.n/t |
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Tue Mar-21-06 09:29 PM Response to Reply #179 |
240. It's Not 1776 Anymore |
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stevekatz
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Wed Mar-22-06 11:06 AM Response to Reply #240 |
279. you know |
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Wed Mar-22-06 10:04 PM Response to Reply #279 |
291. sure |
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Thu Mar-23-06 02:25 PM Response to Reply #240 |
297. The militia is all of us |
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Wed Mar-22-06 09:50 AM Response to Reply #179 |
265. The SCOTUS |
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Tue Mar-21-06 03:46 PM Response to Original message |
170. Here's more: he and kid apparently had argued 1 hr before |
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Tue Mar-21-06 04:15 PM Response to Reply #170 |
183. Well, that certainly doesn't excuse the shooting |
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Tue Mar-21-06 04:22 PM Response to Reply #183 |
189. You must blame the criminal... |
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Tue Mar-21-06 04:27 PM Response to Reply #189 |
190. Yes I blame the criminal 100% |
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Tue Mar-21-06 05:10 PM Response to Reply #190 |
197. He was a victim, not a potential victim |
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Tue Mar-21-06 05:11 PM Response to Reply #197 |
198. There's a fuzzy line between assigning fault and taking responsibility |
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Tue Mar-21-06 05:27 PM Response to Reply #198 |
201. Nope, no fuzzy line here, or for the raped woman example |
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Tue Mar-21-06 05:30 PM Response to Reply #201 |
202. I didn't say trespassing warranted murder |
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Tue Mar-21-06 06:36 PM Response to Reply #202 |
210. You Just Can't Help Yourself, Can You, Slack? |
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Tue Mar-21-06 06:37 PM Response to Reply #210 |
211. It wasn't me who said anything about a short skirt |
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Tue Mar-21-06 06:59 PM Response to Reply #210 |
217. I think most people can look at these ppl |
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Tue Mar-21-06 07:02 PM Response to Reply #217 |
220. Of course nobody actually did blame the guy who walked across the lawn |
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Tue Mar-21-06 07:29 PM Response to Reply #220 |
232. and for those of use who passed logic in college... |
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Wed Mar-22-06 10:01 AM Response to Reply #232 |
267. What part of "I blame the criminal 100%" was unclear to you? |
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Tue Mar-21-06 07:02 PM Response to Reply #210 |
219. Thanks, Paladin -- I refuse to "play" with them any more |
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Tue Mar-21-06 07:33 PM Response to Reply #189 |
235. I must state that had the criminal not had a gun, the kid would probably |
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Thu Mar-23-06 07:12 PM Response to Reply #235 |
307. I agree with you |
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Wed Mar-22-06 10:45 AM Response to Reply #170 |
275. There is more to this than simple rage.... |
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Tue Mar-21-06 05:18 PM Response to Original message |
199. If I say that I wouldn't mind seeing him executed... |
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Tue Mar-21-06 05:31 PM Response to Reply #199 |
203. How about a Very Late Term Abortion flamewar instead? |
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Tue Mar-21-06 05:38 PM Response to Reply #203 |
205. Was he smoking a cigarrette at the time? |
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Wed Mar-22-06 12:46 PM Response to Reply #205 |
281. .. |
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Tue Mar-21-06 06:34 PM Response to Original message |
209. That's one way to fix a problem. |
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Tue Mar-21-06 07:04 PM Response to Original message |
221. Who will take care of that yard while he sits in prison. |
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GinaMaria
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Tue Mar-21-06 07:04 PM Response to Original message |
222. There's a lawn freak in every neighborhood |
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Tue Mar-21-06 07:42 PM Response to Reply #222 |
237. Yep, lawn freaks are out there..I've had two phonecalls from them. |
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Tue Mar-21-06 09:45 PM Response to Reply #237 |
243. Every gun added to society makes society more dangerous. |
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Wed Mar-22-06 06:07 PM Response to Reply #243 |
284. Thank you |
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Thu Mar-23-06 03:09 PM Response to Reply #237 |
298. Wish you'd told them No effing way.. |
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sam the dawg
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Tue Mar-21-06 11:23 PM Response to Reply #222 |
246. lawn freaks |
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Wed Mar-22-06 12:36 AM Response to Reply #246 |
248. Character assassination of a murdered 15 y o boy ... |
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Wed Mar-22-06 12:33 AM Response to Original message |
247. If guns are outlawed can i.... |
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Wed Mar-22-06 12:44 AM Response to Reply #247 |
249. ... |
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Joey Liberal
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Wed Mar-22-06 06:34 PM Response to Original message |
285. Yet another neo-con goes nuts n.t |
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Wed Mar-22-06 06:45 PM Response to Original message |
287. An old guy threw a rake at me and my friend ... |
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Wed Mar-22-06 10:34 PM Response to Original message |
292. Guns + obsessive compulsive disorder = TRAGEDY!!! |
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Thu Mar-23-06 03:12 PM Response to Reply #292 |
299. Or Alzheimer's. nt |
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