U.S. Rep. Alcee Hastings Endorses Joe Lieberman

[dolstein]

Florida Congressman Alcee Hastings Endorses Lieberman
(November 18, 2003)

Congressional Black Caucus member cites Lieberman's lifelong commitment to civil rights

ARLINGTON, VA -- Florida Congressman Alcee Hastings, a prominent member of the Congressional Black Caucus and the first African American from Florida to serve in Congress since the Civil War, today endorsed Joe Lieberman for President.

"Joe Lieberman will not only keep us safe and get our economy growing again, but his lifelong commitment to social justice will make him a President for all the people," Hastings said. "From joining the civil rights struggle in the 1960s to fighting for equal opportunity today, Joe understands that we'll only be strong if we give every American a chance to live the American Dream."

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[davidinalameda]

1. this is my WTF post for the day

:wtf:

this is just an odd endorsement--never saw this one coming

wonder if this is going to be a quid pro quo thing for the Senate race

makes a lot of sense if you think about it that way

[dolstein]

5. Sometimes the most obvious answer is also the correct one

Instead of spinning a tangled web of conspiracy theories and quid pro quo's, you might want to look at Joe's record and background. He has a strong record on civil rights, and is the ONLY candidate running who was personally involved in the civil rights movement during the 1960s. He also has a strong record on environmental issues, which are important to Florida voters. He also happens to be very popular in Florida -- next to Bob Graham, Lieberman was probably the best positioned to carry the state against Bush in 2004. Apparently, none of these things are relevant to you, but I'd bet they factored into Hasting's decision.

[sasquatch]

2. I thought the Black Caucus is democratic?

Why in the hell would one their members support a Republican then?:shrug: Life is weird:crazy:

[Dr Fate]

3. There is nothing Republican about Holy Joe's civil rights resume

You must be thinking of Strom Thurmand or Jesse Helms- former DEMS who were welcomed with open arms into the GOP because they "didnt like the nay-gras"...Meanwhile Holy Joe was doing the RIGHT THING.

Let's not condemn Holy Joe when he is right...

[sasquatch]

7. The name "Holy Joe" comes from the fact that he isn't for Civil Rights

Anyone who is for the destruction seperation of Church and State can't be "Pro civil-rights"

[Dr Fate]

10. I call him that because I think its funny.

Dont mix apples and oranges- race issues and establishment of religion issues are two different things- but I hear you- I'm a staunch no establishment clause advocate myself, and I disagree with Holy Joe's support of "Faith Based" programs...

[sasquatch]

13. The hell they aren't

You can't have one with the other. If NH get's it's Jewish state then Alabama get's it's Christian Fundy's. The Fundy's then kill blacks, jews and athiest/agnostics. Then all hell breaks loose.

[Syrinx]

4. Umm, please make that "Democratic"

Let's not let them get us to do that too.

[sasquatch]

9. Fixed it

:)

[Syrinx]

14. Thanks!

on edit: Good luck against Michigan from an Alabama fan!

:hi:

[sasquatch]

18. Thank you

Go whomever's playing the LSU Tigers. Shoot down a War Eagle;)

[Syrinx]

20. LSU is great!

Despite what most of my Bama breathren feel, my heart is with the Volunteers. But LSU is almost as good as Oklahoma I think.

[WillyBrandt]

6. Makes sense

Lieberman has always been very pro-Civil Rights. He's actually, believe it or not, a very good Democrat on the issues (most of the time).

He's a shit choice, but he ain't the devil, and he's a hell of a lot better than Bush.

[Dr Fate]

8. I know- we pick on him way too much- basically an honorable man

...I disagree with him on Iraq, and I prefer a balanced approach to I/P- but I also agree with him on a large chunk of the issues...

[sasquatch]

11. The hell he is a good democrat

He's for eleminating social programs and supports the BCF tax cuts. He's no more a democrat then Bush is.

[dolstein]

12. Care to back up your statements with F-A-C-T-S?

Which social programs EXACTLY does Lieberman want to eliminate?

Which tax cuts EXACTLY does Lieberman support? In case you were on another planet at the time, Lieberman opposed all of the Bush tax bills, and has proposed repealing all of the upper income tax cuts.

And sorry, but Lieberman is indeed a Democrat -- and apparently far more of a Democrat that you are, since no real Democrat would seriously contend, as you do, that Lieberman's no more of a Democrat than Bush is. A Nader stooge might make such claims, but not a Democrat. Lieberman's pro-choice, pro-environment, pro-progressive taxation, pro-civil rights, pro-gun control, pro-nonideological judges. On these and many other issues that REAL Democrats care about, Lieberman's the antithesis of Bush.

[sasquatch]

15. Faith based initiative ring a bell

Your out of work. Need help? not *insert religion*. Sorry:(

[dolstein]

16. Try answering the question

Name some social programs Lieberman wants to eliminate. Name some Republican tax cuts Lieberman supports. C'mon -- I dare ya. Hell, I DOUBLE dare ya.

You can say "faith based initiative" all you want, but that doesn't impress me, since someone who actually knew what they were talking about would have realized that Lieberman actually broke with the administration over their faith based initiative and ended up supporting a bipartisan compromise that received widespread Democratic support.

[sasquatch]

17. Faith based initiative is the cutting of programs

:dunce:DUH!! Hello Bueller! He also wants to cut medicaid and supports deregulation of everything. For Christsakes he's a repug in dem clothing.

[tlb]

19. I would have predicted Hastings to go for Gephardt

but this isn't that far out of line. Some DU posters forget not EVERY democrat is offended by a candidate with religious beliefs. War vote or not, Lieberman more closely fits in the party and national mainstream then any of the 9 except Gephardt.

Isn't it overdue to retire that snarky " Holy Joe" tag ?