LA Daily News: "Reagan dime makes sense, backers say" (extreme FDR-hating)

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

A wee bit older than 12 hours, but worthy of LBN unless it's a dupe. Moderators, be kind:

http://www.dailynews.com/cda/article/print/0,1674,200%257E20954%257E1802912,00.html

Rep. Mark Souder, R-Ind., introduced the legislation that would boot the Democratic architect of the New Deal in the Great Depression from all future 10-cent coins to make way for the conservative icon.

"It is particularly fitting to honor the Freedom President on this particular piece of coinage because, as has been pointed out, President Reagan was wounded under the left arm by a bullet that had ricocheted and flattened to the size of a dime," Souder wrote to colleagues in rounding up support for his bill.

About 80 lawmakers, all Republicans, have co-sponsored the Ronald Reagan Dime Act, including Reps. Elton Gallegly of Thousand Oaks; Howard P. "Buck" McKeon of Santa Clarita; Bill Thomas of Bakersfield; and David Dreier of Glendora.

"FDR believed the federal government should spend your dimes. Ronald Reagan believed the people should spend their own dimes. I think it's clear that the dimes in your pocket should bear Ronald Reagan's image," Gallegly said in a statement explaining his support of the bill.

I guess they hate FDR because he kicked their Nazi friends' ass. Edited for proper apostrophing.

[bushisanidiot]

1. Reagan Was One Of The WORST President This Country Has

ever seen! No way in HELL should he be rewarded for screwing up this country by putting his ugly HollyWEIRD mug on a frickin' dime!

[MrBenchley]

13. So true...

FDR saved the country and won World War 2....his legacy can be seen on thousands of public works....

That piece of shit Reagan ran up more debt than all the presidents before him combined, with not a damn thing to show for it.

[grannylib]

17. Hear hear...if the guy were Catholic they woulda canonized him by now...

he was nothing more than an addled puppet working from a script.

[kysrsoze]

31. They should show him reading a script....

or maybe drooling/glassy-eyed.

[meegbear]

2. If this does come to pass ...

the only good thing is that the dime is the smallest coin. But then, they'd probably enlarge it to silver dollar size.

[The Zanti Regent]

103. LA "Daily Snooze" a GOP WHORE PRESS organ

You'd think that the assholes who run the Daily Snooze would have their hands full covering up Arnold's incompetency!

[Terran]

3. two things

"It is particularly fitting to honor the Freedom President on this particular piece of coinage because, as has been pointed out, President Reagan was wounded under the left arm by a bullet that had ricocheted and flattened to the size of a dime," Souder wrote to colleagues in rounding up support for his bill.

That's the most moronic thing I have ever heard.

"FDR believed the federal government should spend your dimes. Ronald Reagan believed the people should spend their own dimes. I think it's clear that the dimes in your pocket should bear Ronald Reagan's image," Gallegly said in a statement explaining his support of the bill.

That's the second-most moronic thing I have ever heard, given that the repugs are spending our dimes "like drunken sailors" these days. At least FDR spent money on rebuilding the economy and building up the infrastructure of this nation during the Depression. The unmitigated gall of these people.

[really-looney]

75. Cong Jim McGovern's (D-MA) legislation

The moment Souder's proposal hit the streets on Capitol Hill, a Massachusetts Democrat fired back. Rep. James McGovern introduced a competing bill that would proclaim Congress' intent of keeping Roosevelt on the dime.

McGovern said he will try to block Souder's bill because removing FDR's face from the dime "would be a sign of disrespect. It would be a sign we're diminishing his role in our history.

"Almost every historian who rates presidents always rates Roosevelt as one of the top three presidents, regardless of their ideology," McGovern said. "So much of what our country cherishes today was as a result of Roosevelt's initiatives. And he led our country through one of the most difficult times in our history - the Great Depression and World War II. If World War II turned out a different way, we wouldn't be the great country we are today."

McGovern said Reagan deserves to be honored - and he has been.

"I don't know why Reagan has to be on a coin," he said. "His name is on an airport; his name is on a building in Washington, a school, a highway named after him. It's not like Ronald Reagan is a president who has not been honored."

It's that kind of spatting that makes a powerhouse among coin collectors doubt the wisdom of sticking to presidential portraits as the subject for coins.

Beth Deisher, editor of Coin World, the major newspaper for coin collectors, said she doesn't oppose the idea of a Reagan dime, but "bouncing off probably the most prominent Democrat of all time for a Republican president - I've got to believe there would be retaliation when and if the Democrats regain control of both houses" of Congress.

Putting Reagan on a coin has been popular in conservative circles for several years. It's been advocated by the Ronald Reagan Legacy Project, a program of Americans for Tax Reform. The group wants a public landmark in every state and all 3,067 counties named for Reagan.

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

79. This feels SOVIET!

Putting Reagan on a coin has been popular in conservative circles for several years. It's been advocated by the Ronald Reagan Legacy Project, a program of Americans for Tax Reform. The group wants a public landmark in every state and all 3,067 counties named for Reagan.

Reagan = Lenin mummy; * = Stalin; Ashcroft = Beria?

[trogdor]

81. I wouldn't put ANY dead presidents on our money.

There weren't any until 1909, and the next one didn't appear until 1932. You can't say it's some kind of tradition or anything. If I were a member of Congress, I'd call the Pubbies on their bald partisanship, then sponsor the Bring Back Lady Liberty Act, which would remove ALL of the dead presidents from our regular coinage (so there). If you want to commemorate a particular dead president, do it with a commemorative half-dollar, and let collectors decide what a wonderful president Ronald Reagan was.

Apart from that, we should design coins the old-fashioned way, with anonymous (or sometimes not so anonymous) female models symbolizing Liberty, and no partisan bullshit allowed.

Anyway, don't we have more important things to worry about than whose face is on the dime?

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

83. Brazilian money is EXACTLY like that

And we're happy with it.

[RetroLounge]

82. Just an idea...

"The group wants a public landmark in every state and all 3,067 counties named for Reagan."

Good, you never know when you need to take a piss. How about a Reagan public toilet with his face in every bowl?

[Nadienne]

4. sheesh

<snip>

"FDR believed the federal government should spend your dimes."

<snip>

Somebody had to spend the dimes, pay workers, and the Rockefellers and Carnegies and Morgans and Vanderbilts weren't going to do anything like that unless it got them some profits in return.

So, they grumble about paying workers, and they grumble when FDR fixes the problem they caused...

This really is insulting.

[underpants]

15. FDR vs. Reagan on government spending

First of all Welcome to DU :hi: if'n I haven't before

FDR and the New Deal actually showed that you can fix/help a struggling economy through government expenditures. Reagan tried to do the same thing but instead of spending on infrastructure (they later blocked such spending during the Clinton administration) they threw piles of money towards their friends the military contractors. Most of this went to the company bottom line not to the pockets of the workers who then would spend it in the community (washers-dryers, lunch, etc.). But hey how else are you going to afford $500 hammers?

Bass ackwards to a constructive model.

[Nadienne]

43. Military contractors of Reagan, no-bid contracts of today...

In contrast, I understand that FDR opposed government contracts going to profiteerists. But the under-informed of today seem content to merely believe whatever they're told: tax cuts help the economy, and Bush giving money to his friends helps the economy...

I also hear that history text-books get watered down by a bunch of conservatives in Texas, and details that they don't like get washed out entirely...

Thank you for the warm welcome.

[roguevalley]

71. I think conservatives are demented. Old John D. Rockefeller used to

hand out dimes to people when he got out of his limo.
I imagine he's in hell now, grinding out thirty pieces
of silver for Satan.

So much for spending dimes.

[Jerseycoa]

5. Sickos

They think if they take FDR off the dime nobody will ever think about him anymore and how he saved the country.

[Punkingal]

6. These Reagan drones.....

want his face everywhere. It's disgusting.

[underpants]

12. They proposed a bill just last year for monuments in every city/county

I can't remember who the sponsor was but they actually wanted to force (unfunded in the Reagan tradition) every locality to erect some sort of MONUMENT to Reagan.

Remember the amount of $$$ (~$500,000???) DC had to spend to change all the metro signs and maps to reflect the name of REAGAN NATIONAL AIRPORT?

[loudnclear]

7. Dems should fight this on principle alone. Reagan hated helping

others with Federal funds. Any person who lived throught he depression and who is a recipient of social security should vote against anyone who supports replacing FDR with Reagan...on anything!

These people really suck and most of them and their families probably were the biggest beneficiaries of New Deal help and probably feed at the trough of Fed subsidies for corporations right now.

I hate the Corporcrats!

[Lithos]

8. Sad

How they forget the story of the March of Dimes to cure Polio and FDR's support for it.

This was why FDR was chosen for the dime.

GOP whores are always ideology over compassion and humanity.

[Jerseycoa]

20. Excellent point

That's the real story. Polio and the dime and FDR.

[Robb]

9. I feel stupider for having read this

I mean, good lord. Can we have our Kennedy half-dollar back, then? :eyes:

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

Are THERE 50¢ coins? I'm curious. (nt)

[Sean Reynolds]

53. Yes, the half-dollar, Kennedy is on that.

[happyslug]

59. Killed by the Silver shortage of the 1960s.

In 1964 Kennedy replace Franklin on the 50 cent piece. It was 90% Silver in content. In 1965 the US went to "Clad" coinage for Silver had increased in price so that the Silver in US Coins actually equaled (and at times exceeded) the face value of the coin.

During 1964 the Silver Coins (Dimes, Quarters, and ½ Dollars) were withdraw by silver speculators and a coin shortage developed. This coin shortage ended with the adoption of today’s (post 1964) Clad Coinage system (where a copper core is surrounded by a Nickel facing so that the weight is the same as the same coin in 90% silver).

The problem was th Clad system was used only on Dimes and Quarters, for the ½ dollars the decision was made that it be made 40% silver for 1965. This 40% Silver Kennedy ½ dollar was produced in 1965, 1966 and 1967. It was minted and than silver speculators bought them up and hoarded them. Thus in the late 1960s you had Cents, Nickels, Dimes and Quarters but ½ Dollars were just NOT seen.

Since 1968 the Mint has made 50 Cent pieces out of the same Clad base as Dimes and Quarters, but do to those lost three years people had developed the habit of NOT using the 50 cent piece. Furthermore some people even believe the post 1967 coin had the same silver content as the pre-1968 coins did and hoarded them by mistake. Thus the 50 cent piece never recovered its usage it had prior to 1964.

The Kennedy ½ Dollar is still produced each year, but rare to see one in circulation. If the US even drop the one dollar paper bill, it might come back (along with the Dollar coin).


In 2003 the US Mint minted 454 quarters for each ½ dollar minted and 369 Quarters for each Dollar coin made:

Production of Coins:
http://www.usmint.gov/about_the_mint/coin_production/index.cfm?action=production_figures&allCoinsYear=2003#starthere


Web site of the US Mint:
http://www.usmint.gov/mint_programs/

[54anickel]

10. Puh-leez! Let's just bring back the 2 bit coin and put him on that.

[patcox2]

23. Umm, we have a two-bit coin, it has George Washington on it.

Two bits is 25 cents. A "bit" is two picayunes, a picayune was a spanish coin worth 6 1/4 cents, two picayunes, a bit, was 12.5 cents, so two bits is a quarter.

[54anickel]

29. Sorry, should have said one bit. Had that little ditty playing in my head

2 bits, 4 bits 6 bits a dollar.....Hey, it was early for me, didn't finish doing the math.

[happyslug]

57. I read "Bit" was how you divided up a old Spainish Dollar

If you cut the Dollar in Half, than each half in half again, and finally each "Quarter" in half again you had the "Bit" (It was hard to cut the coin any further).

In Colonial America this appears to have happened (Colonial America was Coin Short for the entire Colonial time period). Now most people would avoid cutting the coin for it let itself to fraud (i.e. One person cut the Coin into eight pieces, and than gives each bit to eight people as a "full bit" and than keeping any shavings caused by the cutting for himself). Thus smaller coins were used such as the picayune but the option to cut existed and since it was Spanish minted not illegal to cut (Unlike Present US Coins where cutting them or defacing them is a federal offense).

Thus the old Pirate Movie and Book phase "Pieces of Eight" for the Spanish Mill Dollar. The Spanish Mill Dollar remained a Legal US Coin till 1857, when Congress finally decided that only US Coins would be valid coinage for the US. The California Gold Rush and the Nevada Silver Rush had solved the persistent Coin shortage in America so the Spanish Dollar was no longer needed.

Did I say the Spanish Mill Dollar continued to be made in Mexico City after Mexican Independence in 1821? Very popular coin throughout the Western Hemisphere AND the Orient. In the 1880s the US tried to produce a “Trade Dollar” to compete with it (It failed, through there are reports of US Trade Dollars still being used during WWII).

In many ways the Dollar never stop being used even during the height of British’s (and the British Pound’s) dominance during the 1800s and early 1900s. It took WWII to finally replace the Spahish Mill Dollar with the US Dollar.

[underpants]

11. As in "dropping a dime" on neighbors and family ? War on drugs

That is the first thing I thought of when I read that. I remember hearing about kids telling teachers that their folks had or smoked some weed. Republican family values I guess.

[Dogmudgeon]

14. I'll engrave swastikas into the face of f@cking Reagan

Metal engravers cost about $12; a special tip for Dremel drills costs about $4.

Maybe it would be better to engrave "Iran-Contra 1982-1986".

--bkl

[54anickel]

16. He-he Raygun on front, paper shredder on the back n/t

[Retrograde]

56. look at the back of the dime

there're already fasces on them

(Yup, that's that thing in the center. They're also prominantly displayed in the Capitol, I forget whether in the Senate or the House or both. Doesn't necessarily make us a fascist state, and anyway we got to them first (OK, after the Romans))

linda

[SiobhanClancy]

18. Does this thing have a chance of passing?

I find it hard to believe,but these days I guess anything is possible. As has been stated,the March of Dimes is reason enough to leave it alone,not to mention FDR's stature and his place in history. I find this outrageous.

[GabysPoppy]

19. Actually it may make sense to put Raygun on the dime

You can't get anything but shit anyway for ten cents and that's all Ronnie Raygun gave us was shit.

On the reverse side I would put a GOP elephant dropping a load of turd.

[maxrandb]

47. All an Attempt

To feed red meat to the drooling masses of Nazis that are taking over this country.

One of the worst things I ever had to do was stomach being assigned to the USS RONALD REAGAN. My Greek uncle who always got a ball cap from the ships I was on made it clear that he did not want a Reagan ball cap.

Funny thing is that the people and the leadership of the ship were pretty good folks all together. Used to piss them off a little when I told them that the "USS" in front of the name meant a hell of a lot more to me.

I sure didn't do my job any differently while assigned to ships named after a corn producing mid-west state, or an obscure New Hampshire mountain, or an historic landmark in Maryland. It was always the "USS" that motivated me.

When do we have the USS BILL CLINTON? That's what I want to know.

[Nlighten1]

21. no fucking way

This is pure nonsense.

[Whoa_Nelly]

22. Changing larger denominations of paper money

to thwart counterfeiting of the same makes sense, but to change a dime is wasting our tax money.

Oh yeah, that's the BushCo plan all along...waste money and spend more money that comes out of our pockets. It's time to plan on sending in pretzels to pay for taxes next year.

[Dover]

24. How appropriate....Reagan's face on a declining U.S. currency

And when the dollar loses it's value completely we need to create the Bush candy coins that say......"In greed we trust, suck on this".

[CO Liberal]

25. They Should Put Reagan's Face On Condoms

Because he f**ked this country royally.

:-)

[ColumbusGirl]

46. NoNo!!!

We want to PROMOTE safe sex, not scare them into not using the condom at all! ;)

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

99. How about Reagan's face on toilet paper?

Now that's something I might use.

[snippy]

26. This is so moronic that I expect it to happen.

I suggest the motto "Arms for Terrorists" on the reverse side. Or a likeness of Reagan's good friend, Saddam Hussein.

[PROGRESSIVE1]

27. Call your congressmen and women, including the Rethugs and...

tell them that you are VERY ANGRY about this.

DAMN Facists!!!

:puke:
:puke:

[really-looney]

76. Support Cong Jim McGovern's legislation

The moment Souder's proposal hit the streets on Capitol Hill, a Massachusetts Democrat fired back. Rep. James McGovern introduced a competing bill that would proclaim Congress' intent of keeping Roosevelt on the dime.

McGovern said he will try to block Souder's bill because removing FDR's face from the dime "would be a sign of disrespect. It would be a sign we're diminishing his role in our history.

H.CON.RES.343
Title: Affirming the support of Congress for preserving President Franklin D. Roosevelt's profile on the dime because of his innumerable contributions to and lasting impact on the Nation.
Sponsor: Rep McGovern, James P. (introduced 11/21/2003) Cosponsors: 52
Latest Major Action: 11/21/2003 Referred to House committee. Status: Referred to the House Committee on Financial Services.
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OFFICIAL TITLE AS INTRODUCED:
Affirming the support of Congress for preserving President Franklin D. Roosevelt's profile on the dime because of his innumerable contributions to and lasting impact on the Nation.

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11/21/2003:
Referred to the House Committee on Financial Services.

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House Financial Services Referral, In Committee



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COSPONSORS(52), ALPHABETICAL : (Sort: by date)
Rep Abercrombie, Neil - 11/21/2003 Rep Berry, Marion - 11/21/2003
Rep Bishop, Timothy H. - 11/21/2003 Rep Blumenauer, Earl - 11/21/2003
Rep Bordallo, Madeleine Z. - 11/21/2003 Rep Brady, Robert - 11/21/2003
Rep Capuano, Michael E. - 11/21/2003 Rep Carson, Julia - 11/21/2003
Rep Conyers, John, Jr. - 11/21/2003 Rep DeLauro, Rosa L. - 11/21/2003
Rep Dicks, Norman D. - 11/21/2003 Rep Engel, Eliot L. - 11/21/2003
Rep Etheridge, Bob - 11/21/2003 Rep Evans, Lane - 11/21/2003
Rep Ford, Harold E., Jr. - 11/21/2003 Rep Grijalva, Raul M. - 11/21/2003
Rep Hastings, Alcee L. - 11/21/2003 Rep Hinchey, Maurice D. - 11/21/2003
Rep Hoeffel, Joseph M. - 11/21/2003 Rep Israel, Steve - 11/21/2003
Rep Jones, Stephanie Tubbs - 11/21/2003 Rep Kaptur, Marcy - 11/21/2003
Rep Kennedy, Patrick J. - 11/21/2003 Rep Kildee, Dale E. - 11/21/2003
Rep Kilpatrick, Carolyn C. - 11/21/2003 Rep Kucinich, Dennis J. - 11/21/2003
Rep Lantos, Tom - 11/21/2003 Rep Lee, Barbara - 11/21/2003
Rep Levin, Sander M. - 11/21/2003 Rep Lewis, John - 11/21/2003
Rep Lipinski, William O. - 11/21/2003 Rep Maloney, Carolyn B. - 11/21/2003
Rep Markey, Edward J. - 11/21/2003 Rep McDermott, Jim - 11/21/2003
Rep McNulty, Michael R. - 11/21/2003 Rep Meeks, Gregory W. - 11/21/2003
Rep Michaud, Michael H. - 11/21/2003 Rep Moore, Dennis - 11/21/2003
Rep Oberstar, James L. - 11/21/2003 Rep Obey, David R. - 11/21/2003
Rep Pascrell, Bill, Jr. - 11/21/2003 Rep Payne, Donald M. - 11/21/2003
Rep Reyes, Silvestre - 11/21/2003 Rep Sanchez, Linda T. - 11/21/2003
Rep Sanders, Bernard - 11/21/2003 Rep Skelton, Ike - 11/21/2003
Rep Slaughter, Louise McIntosh - 11/21/2003 Rep Stark, Fortney Pete - 11/21/2003
Rep Strickland, Ted - 11/21/2003 Rep Sweeney, John E. - 11/21/2003
Rep Towns, Edolphus - 11/21/2003 Rep Visclosky, Peter J. - 11/21/2003



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SUMMARY AS OF:
11/21/2003--Introduced.

Affirms congressional support for preserving President Franklin D. Roosevelt's profile on the dime because of his innumerable contributions to and lasting impact on the Nation.

[politicat]

96. Some Kuchinich Supporter want to explain why he's supporting this mess?

He's listed as a co-sponsor.....

WTF?

Politicat

[dweller]

104. read the title of the legislation

'preserving President Franklin D. Roosevelt's profile on the dime'

He's co-sponsoring to keep FDR on the dime.

dp

[TreasonousBastard]

28. Put his face on wooden nickels...

or plugged nickels.

Or a three dollar bill.

I can't begin to say how it just PISSES me off the way these Reagan fanatics are trying to put his name and face on everything.

Some other asshole's trying to put him on Mt. Rushmore!

Are we going to see a Reagan Monument next to Washington's? Lincoln's? Jefferson's? Why not tear down the Viet Nam Wall and put up a really BIG Reagan Memorial?

Your tax dollars at work.

He has no historical legacy. His administration was one of the most corrupt and inept in history, with no significant accomplishments. Hoover did more than Reagan. So did Nixon, come to think of it. So did just about all the rest of them.

Admittedly, he wasn't as bad as the current one, but still pretty far down on the list. Real close to the bottom.

Imagine, in another generation or two our grandchildren and great grandchildren will walk around looking at all that Reagan crap and ask their teachers, "If Reagan was such a lousy President as you say, why are all these things named after him?"

[UpInArms]

30. if the stupid thing called Ray-Gun

gets his ugly mug on any piece of money, I will never accept that particular coinage or paper as having any value - he had none -

I will refuse it in exchange for any good or service that I produce - I will insist on my correct change being made without anything bearing his resemblance in any way.

I know that when I say (or type) these words that it will not even inconvenience me in any way to demand that in my life. I have no problem being hard to get along with and demanding what I consider to be justice.

I do not shop in any place that has any connection with giving money to any republican for political reasons.

I read every label and investigate every relationship.

No one can make me accept currency or coin that I feel is inferior in any way.

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

32. I hate to tell you more bad news...

...but I think it's illegal to refuse money as payment for goods or services. A freeper customer could set you up big time. Correct me if I'm wrong.

[UpInArms]

39. I really don't give a rat's ass

what any friggin' freeper tries to tell me and they can haul my ass into court and we'll make a big stink about the whole thing -

they want to give me some worthless piece of crap with some visage of a worthless piece of crap on it - they can give me 2 nickels or I will discount the deal by a dime - who the hell cares?

cannot, will not, may not - I may lose a hell of a lot of battles in my lifetime, but I'll die on that hill -

They can print "In God We Trust" and "Treasury Note" on all the currency they want, but it is not backed by anything of value and only has value if I believe in it -

I do not believe there is any value in anything to do with a criminal like Ray-Gun - the king of Iran-Contra -

the star wars Moonie loving piece of flotsam

:puke:

[LiberalFighter]

63. You can refuse service to a customer

[politicat]

97. Actually, no. It's not illegal to refuse a type of currency.

All those people who try to pay in pennies when they're annoyed about something usually have to go to the bank.

There's something on this at snopes.com.... (pennies in search engine should bring it up.)

Politicat

[mac56]

36. Here's a possible solution -

If this travesty comes to pass, save every Reagan dime you're given and send them all to Democratic candidates! That's what I plan to do.

Honestly, I think this is just showboating and pandering. I don't see it happening.

[young_at_heart]

33. Reagan is NOT the "Freedom President"

If these wingnuts get their way the US will have fallen to a new low.

[bluestateguy]

34. I'll stop using dimes then

I'serious. I'll hoard them to keep that many dimes out of circulation.

[jiacinto]

35. Isn't there enough stuff named after Reagan?

The Ronald Reagan Florida Turnpike
Ronald Reagan National Airport
The Ronald Reagan Federal Building

Those are at leaset three major things named after him. I am sure that there are many more. Aren't there enough memorials named after this man?

[Zech Marquis]

42. and don't forget

the brand new USS Raygun aircraft carrier :puke: which had to be sent back to the shipyard for some "additional system tweaks" (read: they fucking rushed to finsish the damn thing, and like hlaf the shit on board wasn't even ready!)

I already loathe the day when old Raygun kicks the bucket--if you thin the old Soviet Uniion was bad when their old fucks died, just wait for our turn! :eyes:

[tom_paine]

48. I agree, the Funeral of Raygun will make Comrade Molotov proud

and Josef Goebbels, too.

And since Imperial Amerika as it's transforming into something very like the Soviet Union (different rationalization for tyranny, though), the Funerla of Raygun will, in fact, raise many memories of old Soviet Commie Funerals.

If it looks like a duck, walks, like a duck, and quacks like a duck...then you have your Free-Market Stalinists.

[Hawkeye-X]

70. Jan 1st 2004 - Reagan dies

and the Repukes sob themselves in bed bawling that he didn't live to see * win legitimately.

Hawkeye-X

[CBHagman]

52. There is an organized effort to name something after Reagan in all...

...states. I kid you not. The Washington National Airport (in Virginia, as it happens) was renamed over local objections and now bears the unwieldly name of Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport.

And as if that weren't insulting enough, former congressman Bob Barr (R-GA) managed to finagle a budget move that forced us to spend tax dollars changing Metro signs, as if no one would have figured out that "National Airport" was the right stop. My fellow commuters are having heart attacks on out-of-service escalators, but Congress can afford to throw money at signs we don't need and never requested just so the Great God Ronnie can be properly adored.

:puke: :puke: :puke:

On edit: I believe the amount spent on the signs was $400,000, It costs about $400,000 to recondition an escalator, I've heard.

[LiberalFighter]

64. They want a landmark in every county named after the scum

[GabysPoppy]

65. They want an appropriate landmark?

How about a "shithouse" on the New Jersey Turnpike.

[LiberalFighter]

89. Every city has these

waste treatment facilities

[Hawkeye-X]

68. Don't forget Ronald Reagan Highway

that was set up this year on I-25 heading towards Colorado Springs. I want that sign removed and burned in front of fundies.

Hawkeye-X

[LiberalFighter]

90. Only one highway should be name for reagan

Whichever highway is 666

Or for I-25 someone should renumber it to 666

Ronald 6
Wilson 6
Reagan 6

[0rganism]

37. Sorry, but taking FDR off the national currency just makes sense now

The republicans are hell-bent on demolishing FDR's legacy of social programs, while cutting taxes for their rich buddies, impoverishing the middle class, and running up a huge debt that can NEVER be repaid. FDR has become officially irrelevent.

There is no more fitting image for the current direction of our federal government than the empty head of Ronald Reagan.

[bushisanidiot]

41. Maybe They Can Put Reagan's Ugly Mug On The $-1 Trillion Dollar Bill

read: Negative One Trillion Dollar Bill.

;P

[Blue-Jay]

38. If *anyone* ever hands me a Reagan dime

I'm handing it back and asking for two nickels. I won't carry anything around with that old dolt's image on it.

[BiggJawn]

40. With all the problems we have in Indiana, this dumb-ass Souder...

...Has to introduce THIS....

Trust me, folks, We're not ALL that stupid in the "Great Hoser State"....

"Uh, can I have 2 Nickles instead of this Dime, please?"

[Kitsune]

44. I hate revisionists.

I mean, I really, REALLY hate revisionists.

[Rex]

45. The Freedom President??? WHAT THE HELL?

Reagan??? Would someone please give Rep. Souder a swift kick in the ass for me. Thanks.

[underpants]

49. Everything now is the "Freedom" something or other

The Repues are trying to steal a word now.

Distract and praise

[mrdmk]

78. Freedom President, Wrong

"So I guess in a way they are counter revolutionary, and God bless them for being that way. And I guess that makes them contras, and so it makes me a contra too."

President Reagan Iran-Contra 1987

:scared:

[M155Y_A1CH]

50. A nod to Reaganomics

With the phrase "Brother can you spare a dime?"
on the reverse side. Let's give credit where credit is due.

[CBHagman]

51. Rep. Mark Souder (R-IN) can be contacted...

by phone at 202-225-4436. The fax number is 202-225-3479.

Just a suggestion: You might refer to the fact that Reagan's administration broke previous records for corruption and still holds the record for indictments.

Just when you think you know how fond congressmen are of wasting time and worshipping (though God knows why) Ronald Reagan, some fresh folly appears.

[LiberalFighter]

66. It wouldn't do any good

He doesn't even meet with all of his constituents that have an appointment when they go to Washington.

[Spider Jerusalem]

54. If this happens..

I'm going to request nickels instead of dimes when receiving change. And what the fuck is this: "Ronald Reagan believed the people should spend their own dimes."??? Guess that explains why Reagan ran up record budget deficits. Stupid fucking cocksuckers. Ideology trumps reality every time, it looks like.

[Sideways]

55. Is It Just Me Or Does Anyone Else Loathe Bill Thomas?

I really really hate this fucking reptile. What a slime coated turd.

He slithers beneath the belly of the lowest snake.

He makes my eyebrows quiver. I abhor violence but I would love to fucking punch his fucking lights out and spit in his face. I loathe him that much.

[snippy]

60. I loathe Bill Thomas. I believe his mother loathes him also.

[_NorCal_D_]

93. He's a pathetic wimp.

His nasally voice and his snide attitude infuriates me.

[schultzee]

58. B.S. Reagon spent like a drunkard, and caused unemployment.

I hate all republicans and hope they lose all their precious money.

[TheDonkey]

61. Ridiculous

I can't see America having a more favorable rating of Raygun than the greatest president of the 21st century FDR.

[LiberalFighter]

62. My Letter to Editor

It hasn't been printed in the local paper yet but I got the call from them yesterday checking to make sure I was the author.

Don't let Souder nickel and dime us with penny ante legislation!

It has been over 9 years and what has been the priority of our Congressman, Mark Souder? Was it for the highway funding in 1998 that he voted against? Was it for the government that he helped shut down? Was it for Kruse International's Aviation Museum privately owned by a major Republican contributor? Was it for a National Lighthouse Museum having little impact in northeast Indiana without a major lake or ocean? He hasn't accomplished much for northeast Indiana! Has he?

Instead, Souder's priority is putting Ronald Reagan the idol he worships, on the dime. All because he wants someone that he views as the "founder of conservative presidential things" to be enshrined forever. If he wants his image engraved on money I suggest it should be on the $1000 bill. But they are no longer printed.

What has Souder's impact in northeast Indiana been during his years in Congress? Maybe it is time for the citizens of his district to reevaluate his performance and whether he is the best to serve the 3rd Congressional District. We need a Representative that makes a difference instead of small change.

In response to our local paper's Washington Editor story
Reagan's bust on dime touted: Souder leading fight to toss FDR in favor of conservative icon Fort Wayne Journal Gazette

LETTER TO EDITOR: U.S. lawmaker puts in his 10 cents' worth: Indiana's Souder wants to replace image of Franklin Roosevelt on the dime with Reagan's. Indianapolis Star *26 Nov 2003

OPINION: Spare us this dime Indianapolis Star * 2 Dec 2003

[LiberalFighter]

91. They printed the letter today *Friday*

Reject Souder's 2-bit dime idea

[Retrograde]

67. put him on the dollar coin

It's the only way Congress will ever get off their collective rear ends and get rid of the paper $1 bill.

Or on the $3 bill (unless that's reserved for Nixon).

How about on the $100,000 bill - then it can become the standard payment for government favors.

Seriously, though, I think there should be a moratorium on naming things after people until that person is dead for at least 25 years.

linda

[Hawkeye-X]

72. Well, a law exists..

Can't make an image of a living person.. Reagan still lives and breathes despite his Alzheimer's. I'm sure Reagan, if he was of sound mind, would strongly oppose this (He was a New Deal Dem before changing to a conservative dickwad)

hawkeye-X

[roguevalley]

69. kill me now.

[Lisa]

73. They're revising history! Polio cured by Americans' dimes!

As I understand it, the "March of Dimes" campaign, where people sent dimes to the White House -- an idea later lifted by Dubya, for the "Children's Fund for Afghanistan" -- is credited with funding the research that led to the Salk and Sabin vaccines. "If everyone in America sent one dime" ... and they did, as much as 150,000 dimes in a single day! That would be a lot even today!

http://www.uky.edu/TLC/grants/uk_ed/webstandards/dimes.html
http://www.pcgs.com/articles/article984.chtml


With FDR's encouragement, and the donations of American citizens, the disease was beaten back with public health measures, vaccinations, and treatment for sufferers. We're now standing on the verge of ERADICATING this disease worldwide, according to the World Health Organization. This is the type of thing that gives the US a brilliant reputation for science and philanthropy ... those dimes have bought everyone a better future, and the gratitude and goodwill for it will last for generations.
http://www.endofpolio.org/home.html

Really this legacy belongs to ALL Americans, regardless of political orientation. To try to boot FDR off the dime using the flimsy pretext of the "dime-sized slug" that injured Ronald Reagan is cheap and partisan.

Even the current White House links FDR with the March of Dimes!
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2001/10/20011012-2.html

[wabeewoman]

74. This is more smoke and mirrors...

I was at the bank the other day and the cashier was complaining about how they were making all these new nickels. She wondered what was wrong with the old nickels and was complaining about what it was going to cost. I'd bet a dime that some contributor to bush makes the coins (or does the mint do that??) There has to be something in it for bush contributors-I haven't seen him do one thing that didn't involve repaying political favors.

[tinrobot]

77. If that happens...

I will never use dimes again!

[LiberalFighter]

92. Send pretzels to monkey boy and jellybeans to reagan

[Ganja Ninja]

80. There was also some talk a while back about putting him on the

$10 bill. I would prefer he be on a bill it's much easier to use a magic marker on.

[SideshowScott]

84. What is the DEAL with the right wing attacks on FDR??????

That pisses me off to no end..How DARE they call FDR a rotten pres and a commie..The whitewash by the GOP about reagan is pathetic

[0007]

85. I think we're getting set-up

Some time back the talk was putting Ronnie baby on a twenty dollars bill.

Then the Mount Rushmore flap.

Now the dime. What a joke! I think Raygun is on ice and the repukes are waiting for the right time, and that may be right before the next election. junior will tell the nation that Ronnie's last words were directed to him and the words were; Win one for the Gipper.

[mikehiggins]

86. These people are insane!

The article on the FAUX site concludes:

"The dime has borne Roosevelt's profile since 1946, a year after his death, in part commemorating his support for the March of Dimes campaign to fight polio."

What about the Depression or World War II??

These people are f**king crazy. How do you reason with something like that? How do you negotiate? Compromise? They are insane.

Out with them all! OUT!

ABB and all of his ilk.

[Moderator]

87. Kick!

:dem:

[Lorien]

88. I know this is a piddley issue

compared to the many real issues of consequence out there, but we do have to stop this one immeadiatly. This is part of the whole "all dems are evil, let's wipe them off the face of the earth and erase them from history" effort. and we have to put a stop to it NOW, before they feel further encouraged and gain even more traction. Time to push back!

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

94. Why not put Reagan on a million dollar bill?

They are cheapening his image putting him on a dime. No self respecting Reagan lover carries dimes in their pockets? Why not put him on the currency of those he most enabled to screw the poor?

[politicat]

95. Memo to Freepers: REAGAN IS NOT DEAD.

He may be close e-frimpin-nuff, but he's not dead yet.

No one who is living may be on the money.

This is so sick and twisted it's not even funny.

(I'm leaving out all of the above points about what a terrible person he was....those have been well made.)

Politicat

[MarinCoUSA]

100. But they broke that rule to name a battleship after him!

And pretzel-dent struts around IN a military inform-

Sh##! and they call themselves "CONSERVSATIVE"

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

98. What galls me is to hear these people called conservatives.

I mean what the fuck do they conserve? Reagan and the current asshole in the White House are nothing but a bunch of Robber Baron plutocrats.
They're a bunch of reverse Robin Hoods mortgaging this country's future.

[tlb]

101. I'll be contrary. This is no big deal.

For the last half century, when popular former presidents die they have gotten a coin. First FDR, then Ike, then Kennedy. Obviously we will never see a Nixon or a LBJ coin but Reagan is popular, like it or not.

There is room to argue to save the FDR dime but some Reagan coin seems almost inevitible by precedent. Making an overly big issue over it would only seem petty and spiteful to most of a nation who is kindly disposed towards the man, regardless of mixed opinions on his presidency.

[Piperay]

102. Now I know they

are COMPLETELY nuts and TOTALLY hateful.

[underpants]

105. NPR-Souder was upset over the Reagan biography

It was on NPR yesterday. Apparently he has had this legislation sitting around and he got so upset with the CBS biography that he did this to preserve Reagan's legacy. So we have a pResident who isn't a statesman or a pilot but plays one on television and now we have television dictating legislation, sleep well.

[AngryAmish]

106. They should put his face on...

the dime bags of heroin and crack that the Contras sold in our cities.