Former president Bush battles Arab critics of his son ("My son is an honest man")

[sabra]

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2006/11/21/africa/ME_GEN_Gulf_Bush_Defending_Bush.php

Former president Bush battles Arab critics of his son

ABU DHABI, United Arab Emirates: Former U.S. president George H.W. Bush was forced here Tuesday into a defense of his son, current U.S. President George W. Bush, whose Mideast policies were derided by a hostile audience.

"My son is an honest man," Bush told Gulf Arabs attending a leadership conference here. "He is working hard for peace. It takes a lot of guts to get up and tell a father about his son in those terms when I just told you the thing that matters in my heart is my family."

Bush added: "How come everybody wants to come to the United States if the United States is so bad?"

...

"We do not respect your son. We do not respect what he's doing all over the world," a woman audience member bluntly told Bush after his keynote speech.

Bush appeared stunned as the audience of young business leaders whooped and whistled in approval.

[Hissyspit]

1. Um, no. No, he's not.

How do you work for peace by starting a war, anyhow?

And there's that "It's hard work" crap, again.

[Cosmocat]

49. I hate that SO much ...

For a maniacal crew hell bent on tearing down the "welfare state" because it just enables people, and who believe people just need to pick themselves up by their bootstraps, I have NEVER heard people whine so much about "hard work" ...

It just is indicative of their amazingly small world view ... They honestly just don't get it ... How out of touch they are, how simple minded their philosphy and world view is ... They just get frustrated when things turn to crap and people hammer them, cause they don't feel it ... They grew up entitled, with silver spoons, and just don't get it ...

[orleans]

99. what you said is so true!!

"For a maniacal crew hell bent on tearing down the "welfare state" because it just enables people, and who believe people just need to pick themselves up by their bootstraps, I have NEVER heard people whine so much about "hard work" ..."

EXACTLY!!!

[calimary]

127. No Kidding. He just didn't get it back in 1992 when running for reelection

and visiting a grocery store - and he didn't know what the bar code was when he was going through the checkout line for his campaign photo-op. And he STILL just doesn't get it now - when he has the most manifestly reckless, irresponsible liar of a son that any father's had the heartbreak to sire. SHEESH! Denial runs SO incredibly deep... :eyes:

[kenny blankenship]

2. That's the biggest lie you ever told, Mr. former President

Your son hasn't lived an honest hour in an honest day in his life.

[indepat]

73. I would shriek "Jesus H. Christ" to GHWB's whopper were it not blasphemous

to do so. :crazy: :silly:

[Joe Bacon]

107. Old Fart Bush makes Tony Soprano look like Mike Brady

All of the Bush family is so evil,so debauched, so sleazy, they make the Sopranos look like the Brady Bunch!

[drone]

118. Head in a waste basket

The man cannot analyze the obvious. We could be "kind" and say W is never accurate

[The Backlash Cometh]

3. Maybe everybody wants to come to the United States BECAUSE

the United States is so bad? I mean, look how easy it is to get rich in this country if you have loose ethics?

[LeighAnn]

59. Who actually wants to come here?

Maybe it's the part of the country I'm in, but I don't meet a whole lot of immigrants from Australia, England, France, Switzerland, Denmark, etc here in the US. None, in fact, unless they married an American. The only major groups of immigrants I see are from countries worse off. The myth that "everybody wants to live in America" is just not true. I suspect most citizens of industrialized countries shudder at the thought.

[Brazenly Liberal]

108. It might be a matter of where you live

I grew up in Chicago, where there were many thousands of European immigrants, including quite a few recent arrivals.

In 2005, more than 176,000 Europeans were granted permanent legal residence status in the US. Over 62,000 of them were single, so not here because they had married an American. There were more than 6,000 from Australia and New Zealand, over 2,000 of them unmarried.

From what my European friends have told me over the years, there is a fairly widespread belief that life in America is easier in many ways than it is there. Our recent gas situation is a good example. When we complained about paying nearly $3 per gallon, millions of people in other nations were thinking they'd be thrilled to pay that instead of the much higher price they pay.

While these friends are horrified at our political situation, many Europeans are like many Americans - not particularly engaged politically.

[comtec]

111. Euros in the States

I currently live in The Netherlands, and believe me it's not by choice. I'm here with my wife who has work, and I don't. Many industrious Euros prefer life in The States (Remember, America is the entire set of continents, NOT JUST the states), not only because of the wonderfully lower tax structure (when I'm working at my normal rate I hit the top tier or 52% and I only make 60k) in addition to overall lower prices on things, since the sales tax here is 19%!!!

Now... what we get for that horrific tax rate is forced lower/affordable medical insurance, paid trade/normal schooling to 24 years old, more comprehensive uitkering (generic term for money from the state) and enforced percentage of affordable housing. The roads are decent, but owning a car is outrageously expensive and public transportation costs more than it should considering the tax structure.

There are many good things here, and many really fucked up things.

The reason WHY Euros are "LAZY" about democracy in the US is because
1 - parliamentary systems are OVERLY simple - you vote for a party... thats it.
2 - The teaching of how their own, let alone other democratic systems operate is pathetically lacking.

When you goto vote here, you vote for one person in your party of choice. Currently there are around 15 ... yes. FIFTEEN PARTIES!, here and each one puts up to 30 people on the ballot.

First percentage of seats are assigned, then the party chooses who sits in those seats, usually based on who got the most votes down.

Sorry to tangent a bit. Yes the shrub clan is beyond evil and corrupt. I'm so disappointed Bill let himself be seen with bush senior for the Katrina assistance. i know it's for a good cause, but still... The elder is even worse scum than junior. Jr. is a drunk blow monkey who wouldn't know real foreign policy if it bead hit head in with a 4x4. Sr. KNOWS what he's doing, which is even more unforgivable.

OK end of rant :)

[Brazenly Liberal]

113. thanks, comtec!

Very interesting. And additional insight is always appreciated!

Welcome to DU!

[go west young man]

115. On the bright side weed is cheap and you don't have to go to jail for it!

[comtec]

133. The weed access is over rated and under stated

that is you are only allowed to own 10 grams, and there are a few regs regarding that. The up side is much of that is consumed in "coffee shops" which don't serve (good) coffee OR alcohol. You aren't allowed to leave for a bit, as I understand. The pot here doesn't seem to have the same effects as good ol California weed (not that I would know) and doesn't smell nearly as nice. Actually it smells like ass IMHO.

Also it's not cheap. Available, but spendy. You can get "space cake" which is cheaper, I believe.

Really the pot thing is WAY over blown. I'm for medical use. I dislike recreational use of pot being attached to medical pot, and find it a burden on the cause. I don't think that pot users should be in prison, but I find it all a waste. I admit I'm a prude. I don't smoke, I've never done drugs of any kind (but I know ppl who have) and I don't drink on a regular basis. I'm pretty boring and keep my beliefs to only affect myself.

I don't believe in paying for sex, however I strongly believe prostitution MUST be de-criminalized like in Nevada, and ONLY allowed in brothels, keep the whores clean and given excellent medical, and taxed UP THE ASS and through the nose! Keep it clean and legal, and safe.

I've been through the red light and it's really over rated and sterile, but honestly it's how it should be I suppose.
BUT this is WAAAAAYYYY off topic. So I'll stop :)

A patriot in exile

[DuaneBidoux]

138. I just don't agree--I've lived in France many years and you'd

be hard pressed to find French who want to live in the US. They especially don't want to give up one month of vacation to work holidays and 50 hour weeks. I married a French lady and we have offered all of them citizenship. Not a one is interested.

[DuaneBidoux]

139. Some analysis has shown that the problem with "underperforming" European

economies isn't the services provided and the amount of resources taken by the government but the regressiveness of the tax system. Liberals complain (rightly so) about the increasingly regressive nature of the American system but European tax structures tend to be much more regressive, especially with high gasoline taxes and the VAT which kills everyone including the poor. There are way too many consumption taxes. They need a more progressive system of taxation on income and assets and they need to tighten up on their upper income tax freeloaders.

[DuaneBidoux]

140. Want to add:

Those consumption taxes make it so that Europeans avoid consumption. Thus they have a MUCH higher savings rate that we do but Europeans could actually afford to consume much more than they do. They are saving literally too much for the health of the global economy.

[Art_from_Ark]

148. Actually, "America" is The States

and people from the United States are called simply "Americans" (as opposed to Central Americans, or South Americans). While Canadians, Mexicans, and people from the US are all technically "North Americans" (although Mexicans don't refer to themselves as "norteamericanos"), only people from the US are referred to as "Americans" without an additional qualifier. The two Western Hemisphere continents are collectively called "The Americas".

[PartTimeSatanist]

117. Eastern European immigrants.

Be honest.

[DuaneBidoux]

136. Take my word it is especially not true in Europe

You could not find at this date 1 in 100 Europeans that would come here to live unless they were literally forced to. The Wall Street Journal, when trying to rail against the "welfare" state in Europe and the superiority of the savage capitalism of the US always talks about all the unfortunate Europeans who would come here for the opportunity. Bullshit--find them on the streets.

[Sequoia]

4. The United States isn't bad, it's the President and his ilk.

[demo dutch]

56. Doesn't matter for many it is one and the same!

[Lasher]

58. What's up with these knuckleheads?

Time and again we see evidence that they think they are the United States. And what kind of a question is that anyway? It's straight from Rash Limpballs. It's not even a question, it's yet another Faux Snooze slogan. Might as well say, "Git 'er done!"

Edit: And another thing - Traitor Senior believes it's wrong for anyone to criticize his son because his family (Poppy's) is important to him? :wtf:

I'm sure Ma Barker loved her sons just as much.

[civildisoBDence]

60. You can't dismember and incinerate people's family members

then lecture them about respect.

Talk about your sense of entitlement...our elites have it worse than anyone.

[link:www.newsprism.com|Newsprism}

[The Wielding Truth]

119. Bush has not destroyed our Democracy,yet. Although he has tried.

USA still has a strong basic grounding in civil rights and economic freedom that may withstand BushCo, if we mend it fast.

The opportunity to live and prosper in a free country will always draw the persecuted and poor. Even if GeorgeI sees an influx of immigrants it doesn't mean his son hasn't hurt our country.

[valerief]

5. Remember when Herbie learned about supermarket scanners?

I think he stuns easily.

[hippiechick]

6. Which son is he referring to ? Is there one we don't know about ?

:shrug: 'Cause it sure as hell isn't either of the 2 that have held public office.

[woodsprite]

41. I don't think it's the one that hasn't held public office either -

must be talking about an illegitimate that we don't know about yet.

[Joe Bacon]

106. It's Neil "Steal a Billion from an S & L and Get Out Of Jail Free"!

The same crook who's making his second billion on those No Child Left Behind standardized tests!

[jwirr]

46. Maybe he is referring to *ss's fouth brother: Bill Clinton?

[goforit]

92. lol!!!......

[Megahurtz]

159. Lol yeah, that IS funny! n/t

[Generic Brad]

94. Does that mean he's ashamed of his other two sons?

It must suck to be Marvin or Neal.

[Raster]

7. So to speak to the Arab world, they have to bring in the big gun....

and he gets told there is no respect for junior. And why should there be? Evidently the only people on the planet that still believe in the Iraq fairy tales are the family bush*.

[Christa]

8. His son

does not even know the meaning of the word "honest".

[zreosumgame]

9. go smuggle more coke Poopy

[Captain Hilts]

10. But he's dumb as dirt. nt

[iconoclastic cat]

11. Everyone, please read the whole article. That family is evil incarnate. nt

[sabra]

13. the last paragraph is just insane!

[kikiek]

62. That is what struck me too! He just exposed himself to be as callous

and idiotic as his wife! "He is working hard for peace. It takes a lot of guts to get up and tell a father about his son in those terms when I just told you the thing that matters in my heart is my family," he said. Oh that criticism of his son hurts huh? How about the families of the people fighting and dying for the senseless illegal war and the hundreds of thousands of families torn apart in Iraq because of it? What does he think matters in their hearts? Don't hurt poppy by criticizing his son though. Only the Bush family matters.

[JHB]

77. You mean where he denies globalization is for America's benefit?

What's so insane about that? It isn't for America's benefit.

It's for him and his pals' benefit. What does he care about the rest of us? That's just "wierd" and "nuts".

[liberal N proud]

12. Honesty is not a characteristic I would consider for any Bu$h.

He lied us into a war for God's sake and knowingly stole two elections. Those are just the two biggies.
Every sentence spewed forth from this moron is full of lies and I wouldn't trust him with a dollar because he would give it to some crony.

[gratuitous]

14. The scattergun non sequitur argument approach

Stupidhead's honesty isn't at issue, at least not insofar as his worldwide depradations are concerned. Whether people continue to immigrate to the United States isn't at issue. Lots of people are leaving the U.S., too, Father of Evil. And how many people have decided they aren't going to spend their vacations in the United States as long as your son is squatting in the White House?

Nonsensical arguments sprayed around to prop up a nonsensical administration. If it weren't for all the dead bodies that keep hitting the ground, it might almost be comic. As it is, it's sad beyond description. Go retire to Paraguay and take your misbegotten brood with you, you evil man.

[Demit]

29. LOL! Hear, hear.

The Bushes ALWAYS pull that shit, being personally offended when they are criticized. I remember reading something about how, when it was learned that his son Neil had been scheduled to have dinner with the brother of the guy who shot Reagan, and it was disclosed that Poppy and the Hinckley father were friends, Poppy got all injured and hurt and he lashed out about the "insinuations". And didn't he do the same thing in an interview a few years ago about how personally hurt he was about criticisms of his poor son? That family has no class and never will.

[tinfoilinfor2005]

126. Just because it hurts your feelings,

doesn't mean it isn't true. This man should stop his sniveling.

[jamesinca]

151. Stop sniveling or get his kid to change ways

If he is not willing to step in and change his kids actions, then he should be willing to be told that his kid is a dork on his best day. Poopy, if you endorse and condone the malignant bitch, then you will hear the criticism of your endorsement.

He could have said: My son, he is his own man. If you have questions or comments about his policies or actions, they need to be directed to him.

[belpejic]

30. Word (n/t)

[SusanaMontana41]

72. "Sad beyond description"

just about nails it. Good post.

[Twillig]

15. Because it's the place where the bombs ain't falling!

"How come everybody wants to come to the United States if the United States is so bad?"

edit: (when i say bombs, I mean our bombs.)

[hlthe2b]

16. I like this comment, again from the article: (GHW Bush Arrogance)

Another hostile audience member, a college student in Abu Dhabi, told Bush that U.S. wars were aimed at opening markets for American companies. He said globalization was contrived for America's benefit at the expense of the rest of the world. Bush was having none of it.

"I think that's weird and it's nuts," Bush said. "To suggest that everything we do is because we're hungry for money, I think that's crazy. I think you need to go back to school."


Sorry Poppy, you aren't pulling the wool over the eyes of the world any longer...

[Canuckistanian]

81. Nice comeback, Herbie

That college student hit a little too close to home, didn't he?

[arewenotdemo]

88. well, money AND power

[grytpype]

17. He's a liar, a narscisist, and an idiot.

[treestar]

18. Trust a member of the BFEE to try making it personal

Isn't his son his president also?

[Virginia Dare]

19. Damn Poppy had his ass handed to him...

The last paragraph was very interesting:

Another hostile audience member, a college student in Abu Dhabi, told Bush that U.S. wars were aimed at opening markets for American companies. He said globalization was contrived for America's benefit at the expense of the rest of the world. Bush was having none of it.

"I think that's weird and it's nuts," Bush said. "To suggest that everything we do is because we're hungry for money, I think that's crazy. I think you need to go back to school."


Kudos to that college student whoever you are!

:applause:

Poppy must be going senile what the fuck was the bit about him and Jim Baker being tennis champs? If that was a diversion, it was a pathetic one.

[shanti]

47. that tennis bit

was a sorry attempt to make him appear more human....problem is, you can't make a reptile human!

[seafan]

20. Don't miss this choice quote!

Former president Bush battles Arab critics of his son

November 21, 2006

Another hostile audience member, a college student in Abu Dhabi, told Bush that U.S. wars were aimed at opening markets for American companies. He said globalization was contrived for America's benefit at the expense of the rest of the world. Bush was having none of it.

"I think that's weird and it's nuts," Bush said. "To suggest that everything we do is because we're hungry for money, I think that's crazy. I think you need to go back to school."

[buddysmellgood]

21. Senior cannot support his case. He cannot show that Jr. is honest.

[The Stranger]

22. "A woman audience member bluntly told" him this?

I thought they didn't let "their" women speak to men? :sarcasm:

[xxqqqzme]

23. ..."My son is an honest man,"....

I suppose if he is, if it is the BFEE definition of honest (which, thankfully, is not the definition recognized by anyone else). After watching those videos of prescott bush the other day, I got an entirely new insight into the inherent evil in that family. It is deeply embedded in their DNA.

[Old and In the Way]

24. Did GHW Bush say that with a straight face?

My son is an honest man," Bush told Gulf Arabs attending a leadership conference here. "He is working hard for peace."

Two lies - 2 sentences. Perhaps when measured with your yardstick, Poppy.

[DinahMoeHum]

25. Don't forget, Poppy Bush is the guy who declared shortly after

our Navy accidentally shot down an Iranian passenger jetliner (Summer 1988):

"I will never apologize for the United States of America. I don't care what the facts are."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Air_Flight_655

:evilfrown:

[datadiva]

26. And you Sir are delusional n/t

[minnesota_liberal]

86. It runs in the family (n/t)

[ixion]

27. your son, 'Poppy',

gives the species a bad name and is a spoiled, unethical, dishonest, sadistic, megalomaniaical idiot, IMO.

[daleo]

28. He's a war criminal and a liar

The apple doesn't fall far from the tree (e.g. the "babies thrown out of incubators" of poppy bush).

[Tight_rope]

155. You wrapped it up in a nutshell. "He's (BUSH 1 & 2) a war criminal and a liar"

[MGKrebs]

31. I think I get it. That's the definition of "honest" in which

Junior believes what says, and believes what he does is consistent with what he says. In other words, he's not neccessarily honest in any objective sense of the word, but hey, he's his son.

I'm just an amateur psychologist :-) but this relationship appears to me to be one in which Junior was never really allowed to fail. In other words, in his upbringing, results didn't really matter, it was the effort that counted. As long as he tried, that was good enough. No ramifications for being wrong.

[denverbill]

32. Bull.

#1, your son isn't honest. He deliberately used false and/or misleading information to get us into a war with Iraq which he wanted long before 9-11 and he's doing the same with Iran and Syria.
#2, maybe the reason everyone wants to come to the US is to get away from despot like the Saudi and Kuwaiti royal families, or to get away from the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan that your son started

[Norquist Nemesis]

33. Honest and hard working for whom?

It sure isn't Americans and the rest of the world!

[Paula Sims]

34. Interesting excerpts from the report

"If were to suggest what they ought to do, it just would not be constructive and certainly would not be helpful to the president. It would cause grief to him."

Does that mean any suggestions he would give sonny are NOT constructive and would cause grief to him? What would he tell sonny, something like "stop breaking the toys I give you!" ?

"I can't begin to tell you the pride I feel in my two sons," Bush said.

What about the rest of his family (Neil, Marvin, and Dorothy)? Hmmm, guess someone's Freudian slip is showing. . .

[Kilroy003]

61. Pride?

"...pride brings destruction and a haughty spirit before a fall. It is better to be of a humble spirit with the lowly than to live it up among the rich and famous" (Proverbs 16:18-19)

http://www.gotquestions.org/pride-Bible.html

"Pride is the only disease known to man that makes everyone sick except the person who has it"
- Buddy Robinson (not that I know who he is...)

"Pride, depravity, and malice have wonderful power to blind the mind to reason and truth, and to give brazen hope even where there is not the slightest ground for hope"
- Joeseph A. Seiss

http://www.jesussite.com/quotes/pride.htm (I think thats a funny name for a wewbsite, BTW)

[The Wizard]

71. Pride

breeds the tyrant.
Homer

[The_Counsel]

35. -- Just Shakin' My Head... --

Bush added: "How come everybody wants to come to the United States if the United States is so bad?"

The_Counsel answers: "According to your son, they all want to come here to KILL US!"

Bush41

Bush43

Difference? None, really. They're BOTH jackasses. :eyes:

[Az_lefty]

36. getting bitch slapped by reality hurts....

WTF did poppy think, that everything was going well?

[screembloodymurder]

37. Everyone hates him.

He is the most hated man in history.

[NoodleyAppendage]

38. Honestly stupid. Honestly dangerous. Honestly frontal lobe-ish.

Honesty and BFEE members are anonyms.

J

[Cha]

39. Bullshit! Fact: Your son is a

lyin' son-of-a-BITCH.

And you're a liar, too.

Does chimp have any postitive attributes? No.

[warrens]

40. My son is only a borderline psychopath !

And he only lies when he NEEDS to. His doctors say he can operate in real life up to six hours a week, as long as no newspapers or TV news are allowed near him.

[Massachusetts]

42. Heard that before......

[Lasher]

101. "Well, I'm not a crook."

Sounds awfully similar, doesn't it?

[Violet_Crumble]

43. Bush Sr mustn't travel much...

Because pretty much everywhere he goes around the world, people are going to tell him his son is a lying scumbag...

[Donnachaidh]

44. "my son is an honest man" -- !!!???!!!

:rofl::rofl:
:rofl:
:rofl:
:rofl:

[NVMojo]

45. tourists are griping about how unfriendly America is to international

travelers ...what an asshat

[Vinca]

48. Poppy and Babs are so delusional. Sonny boy is very bad man. nt

[KikiDisme]

50. It's almost sad

to see someone who lives in a world of privilege and unreality be faced with reality, isn't it?

Notice I said "almost".

And I totally agree with that last guy--they are in it for the money. It's always been about the money and how much they can steal from the Iraqis and their fellow Americans (buy gas much?). This family has a history of war profiteering. Let's hope that W is the last of the Bush dynasty to hold office in this country.

[Aviation Pro]

51. No Poppy Bush....

...you little simian son is not. Now go get that Paraguayan property prepared for your whole fucking family's exile.

[AnneD]

52. Well Poppy

welcome to the new world order...we're on to you, your son, and the claptrap you try to pedal.

[Strawman]

53. That's about as believable as him saying "my wife is hot."

And I don't make that jab as a remark on her mere physical appearance. Her personality is far uglier.

[nebenaube]

54. and blows his credibility forever... yea! n/t

[demo dutch]

55. Bush Sr. is stunned??? Seems like he's living in a bubble too!

[mnhtnbb]

57. The truth is stunning, isn't it, Poppy? All his sons are assholes

[bdamomma]

85. all of them are criminals also

[TankLV]

63. Your sonis a FUCKING LIARand WAR CRIMINAL, you asshole!

Good for those people - the "royals" finally have to face a non-hand-picked crowd of repuke drones!

God I HATE that family...

[FighttheFuture]

64. Yes, he's a sociopath, Honest!! n/t

[neuvocat]

65. But he ain't no daddy's boy that Bush 43, no siree!

He's his own man, ya heah!

:sarcasm:

[Straight Shooter]

66. Bonnie and Clyde were honest, too.

:sarcasm:

[truthisfreedom]

67. that's rich, mr. bush. very rich.

your son's been a drug-abusing drunk who lied, cheated and thieved his way through life, and there's lots of proof. your words ring hollow, mr. president.

[Zambero]

68. To Poppy: Your * is way beyond spin control

Sorry, the harsh reality is that both Bush presidencies were dismal failures. If it's any comfort, yours was nowhere close to being the worst of the two!

[ClintonTyree]

105. In all fairness....

the American people (or Diebold) never gave 41 a second chance to show how much more a dismal failure he could be. If Diebold had only been making voting machines in 1992.........41's wet dream of things that might have been.

These people live in a fantasy world where truth and facts never get in the way of their opinions of themselves. An entire family of egocentric, entitled misanthropes who think their shit doesn't stink. And this is the family GOD has chosen to lead our country and the world toward a better tomorrow? :puke: Proof positive that there is no god: the one the Bush's believe in or the one most others worship. No omnipotent being would ever entrust his creation to the likes of the Bush family.

[iamahaingttta]

69. We must make ABSOLUTELY certain...

...that NONE of the people in or associated with this evil family ever get ANYWHERE near the levers of power EVER AGAIN!

It's bad enough that the merchants have taken over the government. But to have the EVIL REPTILIAN merchants making decisions of life and death for all of us is simply UNACCEPTABLE.

NO MORE BUSHES!!!

(god, I hate that fucking family!)

[durtee librul]

144. You raise a good point

just remember, there are 2 daughters just waiting to procreate. Now, THAT'S Scary!

[IndianaGreen]

70. He should have said: "My son is delusional"!

Another hostile audience member, a college student in Abu Dhabi, told Bush that U.S. wars were aimed at opening markets for American companies. He said globalization was contrived for America's benefit at the expense of the rest of the world. Bush was having none of it.

"I think that's weird and it's nuts," Bush said. "To suggest that everything we do is because we're hungry for money, I think that's crazy. I think you need to go back to school."

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2006/11/21/africa/ME_GEN_Gulf_Bush_Defending_Bush.php?page=2

I will also add that, based on the elder Bush's reply to the student, Poppy Bush is in a bad case of denial as to the true nature of United States foreign policy. Who is he trying to kid?

[stlsaxman]

74. Any video footage? I would LOVE to see this YouTubed... n/t

[ToeBot]

75. "Read my lips, my son is not a crook!" nt

[mcscajun]

76. OMG! Too funny! George, you should be doing standup, Seriously.

"My son is an honest man."

As Bugs Bunny would say, "OOOOOOOOH, I'm DY-In!"
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He'll be there all week, folks.

[peekaloo]

87. Michael Richards' bookings are open.

senile old bastard.

[Peace Patriot]

78. Well, call me a conspiracy theorist...really, go ahead and say it...but I

really don't think a Bush gets up in an Arab kingdom and gets hostile comments and questions thrown at him, especially a Bush that has done so-o-o-o much for these filthy rich sultan assholes, without there being a script behind it. I'm not sure what it is. I'm just pretty sure THAT it is. That this was not spontaneous. Could have something to do with Arab politics--they needed a phony whipping boy, and Jr. wouldn't bend over? I'm going to check out the the full article, and see if I can figure it out--but it could be something we can't see, something behind the scenes.

[Peace Patriot]

80. The script is maudlin--started with a phony folksy talk about things like

how "the happiest day" of his life was 1998, when his two sons were elected governors of Texas and Florida. Then he gets to the point...


"The retired president had just finished a folksy address on leadership by telling the audience how deeply hurt he feels when his son the president is criticized.

"'This son is not going to back away," Bush said, his voice quivering. 'He's not going to change his view because some poll says this or some poll says that, or some heartfelt comments from the lady who feels deeply in her heart about something. You can't be president of the United States and conduct yourself if you're going to cut and run. This is going to work out in Iraq. I understand the anxiety. It's not easy.'"

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"This is going to work out in Iraq." There it is. I think that's the whole point of the speech, on a cognitive level. But there is a subtext...

Just noticed that it's Association Press (AP). Now I KNOW something's not right. It says Bush was speaking to "Gulf Arabs attending a leadership conference here." --in Abu Dhabi, UAE. That's it. No formal name for the "leadership conference." Sponsor? Invitees? Location (other than city)? Who else spoke? "Leadership" in regard to what? Political? (--in the UAE, where politics gets you tortured and 'disappeared'?). Military? Intelligence? Oil industry? All the article reveals is that it is a conference "of young business leaders." NO CONTEXT.

I think the whole thing is phony--a set up.

The subtext is that we're supposed to love mass slaughter and torture and chaos and destabilization of the Middle East, because George loves his sons, yes he does, and they are just a normal family in which fatherly love pours like sunshine upon his progeny, and he just bursts with pride at their accomplishments.

"The elder Bush...brimmed with pride as he told the audience — including dozens of women in black robes and headscarves — of his two sons, George, the U.S. president, and Jeb, the governor of Florida."

Dozens of women in black robes and headscarves. Hm-m. Makes you wonder how they were primed. The harem DOES NOT SPEAK OUT OF TURN without instructions to do so. Sorry, but this was simply not spontaneous. So what would the Arab male domionists' motives be in sicking the inferior sex on Bush Sr.? Could be they were all in on the script. And the script is? Something to do with "father authority" reassuring the war profiteers (many in the UAE, Kuwait and Saudi Arabia) that the hogpen is still open and will remain so. The antiwar Democrats will not get their clutches on Junior. Daddy's here.

The comment from the "college student in Abu Dhabi" that "U.S. wars were aimed at opening markets for American companies" may have been a further signal to war profiteers that this is all about money, and there will be more of it for the privileged few. A reassurance. A promise. Bush Sr. replies that that is "weird" and "nuts." Read the opposite. (Always read the opposite when a Bush speaks--it's a good rule of thumb.) This was just a bit of Bush Cartel "humor" (if you can call it that). Money. Is. All.

Bush Sr. coyly refers to "reporters" in the room. (He can't say what advice he gives Junior cuz there are "reporters present" and they would broadcast it to the world.) But he makes it seem as if it's a public event. My guess: It was one reporter, by special invitation--just AP (CIA?). The article is unsigned. At the end are the letters "jk-wnt," but I'm not sure if they are initials or what.

That may be it. He intends it to be broadcast to the world that his advice to Junior is "stay the course." There is more money to be made--and the sultans will swim in it.

This is a stealth job. A very crafted job. I'm not sure I've gotten to the bottom of it. But you can be sure that there is no love lost between Sr. and Jr., but that, in order to make more money off the Iraq adventure, Sr.'s services (and Baker's) were needed. Jr. & Co. made lots of loot for everybody, but Jr. didn't know how to keep it going. And the Arab sultans want more of the action.

(Note: It's my guess that Rumsfeld is in very serious shit on the Plame/Brewster-Jennings matter, and maybe on 9/11. He was the money man for the war profiteers. Jr. is a total idiot. Enter James Baker.)

the

[flying_wahini]

156. I agree with you, something is not right, esp if it is AP

[Megahurtz]

160. "Phony Whipping Boy" Of Course!

Notice how all of the attention is off Poppy Bush. I am surprized that even DUers are swayed by what this seemingly innocent (LOL) former President has to say. All you have to do is check the History in depth from when Poppy was Vice-President to President and you will see how truely evil this man really is. I believe that Poppy is really running the show, not his son. After all, Poppy wants his "New World Order" very badly.

Check his History and you'll find out why.

[Anakin Skywalker]

79. Yeah! He's Just Stupid. He's Honest But Stupid.

[Javaman]

82. The chimp* being defended by the wimp. nt

[ruggerson]

83. It's not the United States that is so bad, George

It's YOUR SON.

Republicans and Bushes have such a hard time distinguishing between the two.

[bdamomma]

84. he's an honest man??????????????????/

what BS, they will never stop shielding him from his own failures. What a crime family.

[Raster]

93. The ENTIRE WORLD *KNOWS* george w. bush* LIED about Iraq,

about the reasons for war, about the WMD, about Hussein trying to make nerve gas, trying to make biological weapons. The more accurate question is what did bush* NOT LIE ABOUT. Obviously the Arab world is a better judge of character than the average American voter that believed his now proved lies.

Mr. Bush, I don't think there is an honorable man in your family. Every last one of the men in your family have been implicated in one scheme or another, whether stealing money or stealing votes. Can you really be that out of touch--or that much in denial--to not realize that the veneer is wearing thin on the bush* family honor and that we all recognize it? Your family is hated. Your family is distrusted and with much good reason.

[samfishX]

89. I Guess Compared to Poppy...

...W. is actually fairly honest.

I mean, can you even begin to IMAGINE the skeletons in Poppy's closet?
The Iran hostage Crisis, Iran-Contra...everything else that creep helped kick off in South America.
...and then there are his dozens of connections to the Kennedy assassinations...

The amount of blood on that pompus Nazi asshole killer's hands could fill an elevator shaft...

[calimary]

130. Indeed. Don't forget that when sonny-boy "TOOK" office, one of the

first executive orders he issued was to lock up the presidential papers of reagan and his dad. One of the FIRST things he did, probably before they even showed him where the bathrooms were. reagan's papers were scheduled for release. The embargo would still have been in effect for bush 1. But junior made sure they were BOTH thoroughly deep-sixed. I, for one, would like to know what's in those papers.

[Megahurtz]

161. I certainly would like to know what's in those papers too.

No doubt they have something to hide.

[madrchsod]

90. he has done this all his life and he will till the day he dies

he knows his son has been a failure all his life but he will try and defend him the best he can. although i disagree with him and his son as a father i can understand why he does what he does.

[leesa]

91. Like Poppy would know an honest man when he met one. Funny.

Although he probably does have a natural aversion to honest men...

[anitar1]

95. The same wuss he has always been. n/t

[Gman]

96. I wonder what he told the Harris County (Houston) District Attorney

when his boy was arrested for Cocaine possession? He's an "honest boy"? How long does Poppy have to enable the boy?

[Patchuli]

97. I am oh so proud that a woman stood up to him,

before all those men and put him down. The world does not respect what his son is doing. He should hear that.

[LynnTheDem]

98. No, in FACT your son is NOT an "honest man" and never has been.

And that is FACT, poppy.

[marmar]

100. "Bush appeared stunned as the audience of young business leaders whooped and whistled in approval."

Surely Bush Sr. can't be that clueless? :shrug:

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

102. Your son? He's a fuckup.

Edit: ALL of them are fuckups. Every last one.

[kiki]

103. It's a tactic favoured by school bullies the world over...

Lie and lie and lie, and if anyone dares to call you on it, act all indignant and say "Are you calling me a liar?", in the hope that people will be too scared or polite to say, "Yeah, actually, I fucking AM."

Hey Poppy - FUCK YOU AND YOUR IDIOT SPAWN, YOU REPULSIVE OLD FASCIST.

[MGD]

104. Forst Gump was an honest man too.

but we didn't make him the President of the U.S. and then let him start and lose a war, did we? We need a recall function for every elected official added to the constitution.

[tbyg52]

109. Your son is (unfortunately) President of the United States

you jerk. Since when has that *not* involved dealing with criticism? Just shut up.

[onager]

110. Yr Middle East Correspondent affirms: this happens all the time

(I'm strictly an amateur correspondent, though. Not one of those professionals like Mikey Savage-Weiner or Laura Ingraham. So bear with me.)

I've spent more than a year in Egypt now, and I can tell you: if you hear the U.S. media braying about "a successful Middle Eastern tour by Bush representatives," it's a load of steaming G.W.

At this point, I don't even know why the idiots in D.C. bother sending anyone to this part of the world. And lest we forget, places like the UAE and Egypt are supposed to be our friends over here.

According to what I read in the Egyptian press: the last time Condi Rice visited Egypt, she came equipped with long wish list of stuff Egypt should be doing in the War On Terriers. From the press reports, I gather she presented this not as a request but as an ultimatum.

Which meant she was forced to stand on a stage, in public, with Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak and get a serious red-assing from Mubarak.

As anyone with even a passing knowledge of Middle Eastern history could have told her--and apparently no such people exist on the White House staff--Egypt was ruled by foreigners for 2,500 years. That's one reason Egyptians get a mite touchy when they believe they are being ordered around by pushy, arrogant foreigners. Unfortunately, Pushy/Arrogant mode seems to be the only diplomatic style avaiable to the Bush mAdministration.

The Karen Hughes Egyptian Road Show was just hilarious. It ended like Poopy's UAE trip--with a lot of very angry Egyptians on their feet, yelling rude questions and comments at Hughes. In this case, the audience was Egyptian women, including quite a few working journalists. Judging by the pictures in the local newspapers, Hughes was shocked...SHOCKED...that the women didn't throw flowers at her, then submissively sit at her feet for a lecture on democracy.

Maybe that Middle East Expert on the White House staff told her Middle Eastern women were generally quiet and submissive...

:rofl:

[ordinaryaveragegirl]

112. BWAAAA-HAAAA-HAAAA!!!

Honest? Him???

Um, I somehow don't think so.

This guy's idea of "honesty" has put us in exorbitant national debt and cost thousands of people their lives.

[go west young man]

114. Poor Mr. Bush with so much anxiety and suffering

when his son is verbally attacked. God it hurts so much. Not quite as much as a bomb landing on someone and their children. Blowing their arms,legs and torsos into tiny bits, but it still hurts. I feel so sorry for him.

[lpbk2713]

116. The very fact that Poppy should have to defend Monkey-Boy's integrity

in a public forum speaks volumes. Frankly, if the issue is at such a crucial point, no amount of spin will do any good.

[curiousdemo]

132. Man this is a cool post...

Rush on drug again...:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[sofa king]

120. But it's easy to read Poppys lips: when they're moving, he's lying, too.

[rateyes]

121. Why shouldn't he believe his son is an honest man?

After all, he believes himself to be an honest man.

HONEST=TRUTHFUL

Neither he nor is his son is honest.

[FreeStateDemocrat]

122. Echo of Tricky Dick's: I'm not a crook disclaimer and just as detached from reality.

[GreenTea]

123. An absolute liar & killer telling people his son is honest? What in the fuck

do the Bush's know about honesty...it's all lies and money making scams with these sick, greedy, lying power mad Bush assholes!

[sakabatou]

124. That coming from Bush Sr...

BWAHAHAHAH!

[calimary]

125. Oh for Pete's Sake...

"I have strong opinions on a lot of these things. But the reason I can't voice them is, if I did what you ask me to do — tell you what advice I give my son — that would then be flashed all over the world,"

Bush said. "If it happened to deviate one iota, one little inch, from what the president's doing or thinks he ought to be doing, it would be terrible. It'd bring great anxiety not only to him but to his supporters."

Holy COW. We have to worry about the "great anxiety" brought to little boots and his supporters?????????? Awwww... poor widdle things...

:nopity:

For heaven's sake, I think it's FAR more important to worry about the devastation this miscreant and his supporters have caused this country, AND THE WORLD.

[Gerardo]

128. the whole family is so out of touch it's pathetic

Every time one of them opens their mouth it is painful to think that they've been "selected" to speak for the U.S.

[YankeyMCC]

129. Nice example of Bush-logic

Criticism of his son and his administration equals criticism of the US. Fracking wacko.

People have been coming here for centuries because of the promise of opportunity that has worked for many, but your son is apparently doing all he can to ruin that.

[curiousdemo]

131. That little shit of yours.....

caused the lives of thousand of people. How dare you go into a Arab countries and try to defend that Napoleon wannabe. Say Papa Bush, get out more often, The world hate your son and he brought it on himself. Isn't it time for you to stop making excuse for this King George II of yours. Go back to Houston and whine among those Blood Sucking Volchers. They are the only ones that care about you and your F*!King son. Dam :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: Baby!! Oh Yea....answer the question about Iraq next time.

[Catshrink]

134. My ass

:banghead:

[RFKHumphreyObama]

135. Poor Senior

He's gone quite delusional

He's so beholden by the fact that his good-for-nothing son has managed to steal the White House in two elections that it has clouded all his sense of judgment and logic.

Perhaps if he hadn't bailed out his son every time he fell flat on the ground with all his "youthful indiscretions" and failed business ventures and had let his son experience the consequences of his actions, the world would be a better place for it.

Face it Senior. You've done a bad job raising your son and the world is paying the price. He's also destroyed your legacy as well -you were actually quite well-regarded internationally but your son's absymal failure of a presidency will overshadow any achievements you accomplished during the presidency

[DuaneBidoux]

137. Actually America isn't bad at all-Bush is.

[Imagevision]

141. The fact Poppy is out doing jr. damage control speaks volumes!!

[Raster]

142. The Bush* Family Evil Empire presents "The Honest Man" tour...

sponsored by the Texas-American Petroleum Cartel and the Military/Industrial Complex. Also brought to you by Halliburton..."Don't start a war without us" and General Electric..."We bring good things to nuclear war."

[NoodleyAppendage]

143. BFEE = the thing that matters in my heart is my family (i.e., screw America)

A well-placed accident to Prescott Bush in the 1930s would have saved the world hundred of thousands of lives and countless anguish. The BFEE is a blight upon humanity.

J

[Zorra]

145. Bu*h honesty: "Bush declared that Rumsfeld would remain at the Pentagon

through the end of his term."

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/11/08/rumsfeld.ap/index.html

And they'll find the WMD any day now.

[Imagevision]

146. Why isn't this old man home, where he belongs...?!! - playing damage control...

[classysassy]

147. I am not a crook and neither is my son.

more republican lies.

[clyrc]

149. I live in the UAE. I had to laugh when I saw this

Over here, as far as I've seen, people like Clinton and love Carter. They like them so much even bush can't make them hate the US. When I first got here, I was afraid that people would hate me because I'm American. For the most part, that hasn't been the case. I just say I can't stand bush, (an understatement) and mostly I'm ok with people after that.

And about Arab women being meek....HA! When I first got here, I was shocked at how, um, assertive Arab women can be. Most of the time, it seems they have no problem speaking their minds. I'm not surprised a woman told bush senior the truth. I wish I could have been there, though.

[tom_paine]

150. Your son is a genuinely dishonest coward, Poppy Augustus

[jordi_fanclub]

152. Correction...

"My son is an honest man"

NIXON was an honest man, by comparision!

[SemperEadem]

153. His son wouldn't know honesty

if it snatched back his head and crapped down his throat.

[AngryOldDem]

154. "Gee! They hate us! They ACTUALLY hate us!"

And Poppy has absolutely NO friggin' clue as to why.

[NotGivingUp]

157. evil, disgusting scumbags...describes the entire bush family

[happydreams]

158. "My son is not a crook!"

:bounce:

[Megahurtz]

162. Mmmmmm uh huh....yeah...sure....

and you're honest too, right? :eyes: