Iraq blast hits main Shia group

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3333197.stm
Friday, 19 December, 2003, 07:36 GMT

An explosion has taken place outside a building belonging to Iraq's main Shia Muslim political group in Baghdad.

One person is believed to have been killed and two injured in the blast targeting the Supreme Council for the Islamic Revolution in Iraq (Sciri).

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[JaySherman]

1. The opening shots in the civil war?

A shia leader was assassinated earlier too.

[nadinbrzezinski]

2. Could be

The Sunni are not going to go quietly into the night, as it were.

And yes I have seen this coming.

As my husband and I are fond of saying, all we managed to do is destablize the region

[katusha]

4. it seems only natural

given the capture of saddam. before if you were an insurgent while saddam was at large you were considered pro-saddam. now that he is out of the picture the number of insurgents could grow but not necessarily be anti-american. many shia groups have started arming their own militias for protection from rival shia groups. meanwhile GW is giving a timetable for a drawdown of us troops. the rival groups can use the time to train their militias and carry out car-bomb assisnations. we have in effect turned iraq into somalia/afghanistan and will be ruled by warlords until the inevitible civil war and splitting of iraq into 3 seperate contries. every talking head pro/con i heard in april warned that the us had a very narrow window of time to get it right. that window was universially stated as 6 months. why do we have a president who is so headstrong that he could not have waited for hans blix to comb iraq for a few more months why we got a plan together for what to do after we won the war? how much better would bush's position have been if we had given the un almost a year then if we hadn't gained a real alliance in the UN we could have at least gotten NATO support(france has no vote on military matters) gone in successfully removed saddam and have the victory parades in early summer 2004(six months after fall of iraq). i mean the way he did iraq was not only stupid but it was couterproductive to his own political welfare.

[nadinbrzezinski]

5. Here is the deal

You understand Iraqi history and culture far better than Wolfowitz
or Perle. Now Ahmad Chalabi does, and he used US... feel a tad silly
now?

Now you cannot expect uncurious George to actually ask the questions

He is not equiped to do that

And yes we just managed to destablize the region

[DoYouEverWonder]

11. Wolfie and Perle understand history

They know exactly what they are doing. This is their plan. Destabilize the ME and enrich their corporate masters in the process.

What is hard for most people to grok is that the radical extremist neocons that have taken over our government are psychopaths. It is very hard for any normal person to even begin to understand how these guys think. To accept the idea that these people hate us and could care less how many people they kill to achieve their goals. It is very hard for people to accept that their own government would sit by and watch while 3000 Americans were killed and do nothing. Normal people couldn't act or respond that way. Only a psychopath could.

[reprobate]

10. At it's heart the problem is the ideologs

The neocons quasi-religous fervor translates into action without planning. They apparently believe that whatever they plan is divinely ordained and must by it's nature be right and perfect. This gives them the arrogance to take action without planning for the unexpected. If they were corporate heads the corporation would go bankrupt. Which is exactly what they are doing to the country.

[kaitykaity]

3. That was my exact thought.

Holy crap, we are in for it now. God damn Bush
to hell.

[Crunchy Frog]

6. I wonder if it could be

our guys behind this:tinfoilhat: . SCIRI is very strongly aligned with Iran, and clearly has a very different agenda for Iraq than Bushco does. They have also managed to position themselves in such a way that they have become very powerful and influential. It would be very much in Bushco's interests to have them out of the way.

[ze_dscherman]

7. That would be a very bad move

This moves Iraq closer to civil war - a situation no one could handle. No exit for the U.S. because of the obligations as occupying power, no safety for troops nor business, the whole region destabilized.

Not even a neocons dream, I hope.

On edit: Just a typo crocketed

[Crunchy Frog]

8. You're probably right

I've become excessively paranoid lately.

[ze_dscherman]

9. If they can get you asking the wrong questions

... they don't have to worry about answers.

Thomas Pynchon