BP gets OK to dump mercury into Lake Michigan

[dubyaD40web]

Source: USA Today

BP gets OK to dump mercury into Lake Michigan

A BP (BP) refinery in Indiana will be allowed to continue to dump mercury into Lake Michigan under a permit issued by the Indiana Department of Environmental Management.
The permit exempts the BP plant at Whiting, Ind., 3 miles southeast of Chicago, from a 1995 federal regulation limiting mercury discharges into the Great Lakes to 1.3 ounces per year.

The BP plant reported releasing 3 pounds of mercury through surface water discharges each year from 2002 to 2005, according to the Toxics Release Inventory, a database on pollution emissions kept by the Environmental Protection Agency that is based on information reported by companies.

The permit was issued July 21 in connection with the plant's $3.8 billion expansion, but only late last week began to generate public controversy. It gives the company until at least 2012 to meet the federal standard.



Read more: http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/environment/2007-07-30-mercury_N.htm

[Demeter]

1. Are They CRAZY???!!

After all the stink about autistic children, they're going to dump mercury in the Lakes? Couldn't they dispose of 3 miserable pounds of mercury appropriately?

[HereSince1628]

2. Not crazy, they are the petroleum industry, they do as they please.

And they're pleased not to be forced to extract the mercury from their waste stream.

[saigon68]

10. Capitalism gone mad

[roody]

60. Capitalism is madness.

[INDIA]

69. Yes. China and the USSR proved how environmentally friendly socialism/communism is.

[Megahurtz]

77. Are you defending Capitalism?

:shrug:

[Solon]

106. Don't mind that poster, they can't tell the difference between regulated Capitalism and Communism...

Much less the Socialism of places like western Europe. Nuance isn't that poster's strong suit, to put it mildly.

[OlderButWiser]

3. I assume that

the 3 pounds of mercury is diluted in millions of gallons of water and that's why they got the ok. But still...

[never cry wolf]

17. See my post 15 below, it's much more than 3 lbs. of mercury

As a result, BP now will be allowed to dump an average of 1,584 pounds of ammonia and 4,925 pounds of suspended solids into the lake daily.

[Deep13]

4. Running a fever? Put Lake Michigan under your tongue.

Not happy about this.

[groovedaddy]

5. Mercury in your fish, anyone?

Or your drinking water?
They go nuts if it shows up at school but it's okay to dump it in a lake that people use for water, food and recreation? What's wrong with this picture!?!

[Lisa]

87. at this rate, the question will be, "fish in your mercury?"

That stuff is extremely hard to get rid of, once it enters the food web.

[City Lights]

6. Fuck them.

They're hauling in cash by the ton, but they can't comply with a regulation from 1995? :wtf:

:nuke:

[onehandle]

7. Just as long as the water is bottled and served up in water coolers...

...to the executives of BP and the politicians that service them.

[cureautismnow]

21. Exactly. Let THEM drink the poison first.

Bastards. :mad:

[Ilsa]

91. Them and their pregnant relatives, partners, and kids.

And then let BP fund the special education they'll all need for developmental disorders.

Goddammit, this makes me sick.

[krispos42]

104. The water cooler bottles need a little groove near the mouth...

circling it. That groove needs to be filled with mercury, making a little ring that the water must flow past just before it goes down to the spigot.

Just sort of a graphic example.

[TechBear_Seattle]

8. Recommended

This ought to be on the Greatest page.

[outofbounds]

9. Mercury!!!

I looks like a very small amount but I have experience with it living near a river that was polluted for 75years with Mercury. We can only eat shrimp out of this river mo more than once a week. Fish I believe twice a week. The real problem is the fishes offspring, three eyes, extra or no dorsal fins severe discoloration, and so on.
And when the EPA realizes they have been over dumping and decide its time clean up the mess they end up stirring the material and spreading it even more. When will they ever learn.
I don't see why BP doesn't separate it collect it and sell it to the compact florescent light bulb mfg

[ginnyinWI]

11. well eating Lake Michigan fish hasn't been safe for some time now.

This is only going to make it worse. I believe Chicago uses it for its drinking water, though--yikes!
They ought to organize a huge protest and get on the evening news! The next president can't take office too soon!!

[PoconoPragmatist]

16. Yes.

As a native chicagoan, who is now transplanted on the East Coast...I can tell you that, in fact, yes, chicago DOES use Lake Michigan for drinking water. in fact, the very reason the flow of the chicago River was reversed by man, is because the chicago River is used for waste...and it used to flow INTO Lake Michigan. Through a series of canals, levees, etc, the flow of the Chicago river was reversed, so that now it flows AWAY FROM Lake Michigan...and for that very reason...because Lake Michigan is used for drinking water.

[AwakeAtLast]

12. That's "Our Man Mitch"!!!

:grr: :grr:

Not MY man!

:grr:

This is what happens when a Bushie runs a state!

[acmavm]

13. This is an intentional criminal act. Or would be in lawful times.

What in the hell are we going to do? Something needs to be done. And FAST.

This is just a sample of the shit that's going to keep happening with these thugs in the White House.

IMPEACHMENT (and the follow-up trial)IS THE ONLY WAY OUT OF THIS MESS!!!

[EnviroBat]

49. I believe the time is near...

To start f'ing up these corporations and the people who run them in order to save this planet from annihilation...

[TheModernTerrorist]

73. I wholeheartedly agree

I just went SWIMMING in Lake Michigan yesterday...

[Name removed]

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[never cry wolf]

15. It's not just mercury

Yes, Chicago and many suburbs and other towns and cities along the lake get their drinking water from there.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-bp25jul25,1,5876509.story


The House appears set to approve a resolution Wednesday, sponsored in part by Rep. Rahm Emanuel (D-Ill.), that condemns the dumping permit. It allows BP to release 54 percent more ammonia and 35 percent more solids, tiny particles of pollutants that make up sludge, than it already dumps daily into Lake Michigan.

--------------

When the company sought a new water permit for the Whiting refinery, state and federal regulators agreed there isn't enough room at the 1,400-acre site to upgrade the water treatment plant enough to keep more pollution out of Lake Michigan, the source of drinking water for Chicago and scores of other communities.

As a result, BP now will be allowed to dump an average of 1,584 pounds of ammonia and 4,925 pounds of suspended solids into the lake daily. (my note, DAILY!)

The additional solids, tiny sludge particles that escape water treatment filters, are the maximum allowed under federal guidelines.

Ammonia promotes algae blooms that can kill fish, while suspended solids contain heavy metals such as lead, nickel and vanadium.

In advertisements and e-mails published during the past two weeks, BP has insisted the treated water it pumps into the lake is largely free of toxic waste. Federal records, though, show the refinery already is one of the largest sources of industrial pollution pumped directly into Lake Michigan.

[krkaufman]

85. BP ... Bringing Pollution to Chicago.

After reading this story, I think Bringing Pollution is a more fitting redefinition of the corporate acronym than Beyond Petroleum.

[WritersBlock]

100. And a sub-header: "Now largely free of toxic waste!"

This is sickening.

Literally.

[ThatsMyBarack]

18. Speaking of Mercury, I have a ?QUESTION?:

Didn't dimson recently veto a bil to remove mercury from vaccines? Those morans really must adore the stuff! :nuke:

[Megahurtz]

81. Of Course.

It's probably part of their Population-Reduction Plan.

[MichiganVote]

19. No more BP gas for this michigander

[asthmaticeog]

20. I just don't get it.

We KNOW now. We're not babes in the woods about this shit anymore, haven't been for decades. Why? Why the fuck do we continue to let them poison us?

[Zenlitened]

33. It's crazed, isn't it? To take such a giant step backwards...

... with eyes wide open...

I just don't get it at all.

How many jobs would be CREATED by coming up with a method to sequester this stuff, rather than treating our nation's waterways like one big toilet bowl?

:banghead:

[krkaufman]

86. Perhaps, but doing so would cut into the short-term profits of the corporation.

[outofbounds]

90. doing so

would get more people out of poverty or even elevate them dangerously close to the rich. After all does greed ever like to be challenged? Greed tries to keep the inferior beneath them.

[Tesha]

39. That would be *BECAUSE OUR POLITICIANS ARE ALL COWARDS*...

That would be *BECAUSE OUR POLITICIANS ARE
ALL COWARDS* or corrupt, bought and paid-for
by "campaign contributions" from industry.

Tesha

[Doctor_J]

22. Whew. I now live on Lake Erie

Though we're probably next.

[Tyler Durden]

27. That just means you won't get the Mercury until the water flows there.

Lake Michigan empties into Lake Huron which empties into Lake Erie.

How's YOUR coffee tasting these days?

[asthmaticeog]

54. This raises a good point.

Can't other states that will be poisoned by this decision appeal? What about their vested interests? Eating Lake Erie Walleye is already like chugging a thermometer...

(BTW, I'm not saying that in a million years this will actually happen or that it will succeed if it does - I'm angry, not stupid.)

[madrchsod]

23. illinois is going to sue to stop this dumping

maybe michigan will join in the suit also. there is a great lakes treaty,pact that all states have signed and are legally bound to. as far as illinois is concerned this issue is`t over

[eowyn_of_rohan]

38. Hey, don't forget Wisconsin...

This is outrageous

Article from today's Sheboygan (Wisconsin) Press:
"Naturally, this increase in toxic waste going into Lake Michigan has raised the ire of every boarder state, except Indiana. Congressional representatives from Michigan, Illinois and Wisconsin championed a resolution urging Indiana to reconsider the approval. It passed the House 387-26 last week.

Mayors of several Wisconsin coastal communities, including Sheboygan, sent a strongly worded letter opposing the discharge permit to the Indiana state agency. These cities are among the dozens that rely on Lake Michigan for safe drinking water. The people who live in these communities also fish and boat on Lake Michigan."

http://www.sheboygan-press.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070731/SHE06/707310459/1883

[madrchsod]

64. sorry! it`s going to take wisconsin,illinois, and michigan

to sue indiana

[sybylla]

72. Yeah, but our puke nutjob AG isn't likely to sign on to a lawsuit

unless the corporate front group, Wisconsin Manufacturers and Commerce, and Alberto Gonzales tell him to.

[eowyn_of_rohan]

78. But, but, he grew up in the Northwoods and is dedicated to public service!

"Attorney General, J.B. (John) Van Hollen grew up in the North woods of Wisconsin where he developed an appreciation for the great outdoors, family and community, and dedication to public service."

If you would like to contact the Wisconsin Department of Justice by telephone, please call:

608-266-1221

[barb162]

50. Terrific. Someone needs to stop this nonsense.

BP has billions in profits a year and doesn't have to dump in a source of water for millions of people.

[Pharlo]

96. What about Canada?

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=268959

I am certain they would be as concerned about poison being introduced to the Great Lakes as they are about diversions. There are eight states and two Canadian provinces that border the Great Lakes - all of which will be affected. It's not just three states - I do believe seven states, two provinces and environmental groups will probably be concerned about this.

[frazzled]

24. It's not just mercury they're dumping--please boycott BP

It's tons of amonia and sludge, and a number of legislaors, local and national are trying to do something about it. The new (and so far terrific) Alderman of Chicago's 42nd Ward explains:

Alderman Brendan Reilly has joined with fellow Illinois lawmakers, including U.S. Senator Dick Durbin, U.S. Rep Rahm Emmanuel, U.S. Rep. Jan Schakowsky and Lt. Governor Pat Quinn to help spearhead efforts to block plans by BP (formerly British Petroleum) to dump tons of toxic pollutants into Lake Michigan from their Indiana refinery.

BP has secured permits for its Whiting, Indiana plant to dump an average of 1,584 pounds of ammonia and 4,925 pounds of sludge into Lake Michigan daily. Nitrogen-rich ammonia creates algae blooms that kill fish and threaten Chicago's beaches, and the industrial sludge contains heavy metals like lead, nickel and vanadium which can end up in our food supply.

Lake Michigan is not just Chicago's greatest natural resource, its one of the greatest natural resources in the world. The Great Lakes contain 20% of the world's supply of fresh water, and commercial and sport fishing alone contribute $5 billion a year to the region's economy, according to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.

You can join Alderman Reilly in opposing BP's plans to flood Lake Michigan with industrial waste by signing this online petition to Indiana Governor Mitch Daniels, BP President Robert Malone, and the U.S. EPA.

Sign the Petition Against Lake Michigan Dumping Here. http://www.standingupforillinois.org/bp/index.php

Many of us here in the Chicago area are refusing to buy our gas from BP, and are writing to say so. It would be helpful if people from other regions as well would join in this effort. After all, Great Lakes pollution can affect us all.

[loudsue]

102. BOYCOTT!!! You bet! And write BP & let them KNOW we're going to boycott!!!

This is outrageous!!! The fucking terrorists are on our own soil using chemical warfare.

Write letters to BP & spread this all over the internet, and QUIT BUYING ANY GAS AT A BP STATION!!!

Let them KNOW that we're really not going to stand for this.

:kick::kick::kick:

[madrchsod]

25. 86 more jobs is indiana excuse for polluting the south shore

of lake michigan. the dunes organizations are also joining in the fight against this...

[Gidney N Cloyd]

26. Steve Cochran, WGN-AM aft drive moran, was actually DEFENDING BP last week.

Sonuvabitch O'Reilly wannabe had me screaming at the radio. He must have some corporate gigs lined up and doesn't want to offend his masters.
There is absolutely NO EXCUSE after all the progress we've made on environmental laws to be dumping MORE crap in the lake.
GOD DAMN every last one of these bastards and their media toadies!!!!!!

[Doctor_J]

30. WGN is one of the most GOP stations in the US

this is not surprising.

[Gidney N Cloyd]

34. It's always been conservative, but on top of that Cochran is a fool.

Fancies himself well-informed but he always reminds me of the scene in "A Fish Called Wanda":

"Apes don't read Nietzsche!"
"Yes they do, Otto, they just don't UNDERSTAND it."

[barb162]

45. damn straight.

I shake my head in disgust at this crap already.

[Ian David]

28. It won't be long until giant fish are eating the ducks, and mutant grizzles wreak havoc. n/t

[dysfunctional press]

79. ???- and you base that assertion on...what exactly?

:shrug:

[Ian David]

95. For one thing, bears are the number one threat to America. Also...

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0079758/

[Tyler Durden]

29. Called Senator Levin's Office...they have gotten a lot of calls about this.

Call in...add your voice. I just did.

[underpants]

31. THANK GOD! I was worried that some people might not have a chance to get a dividend this year

and basically that is all we are worried about right? The CHANCE to MAYBE get a dividend check this year? Right?

:sarcasm:

[HootieMcBoob]

32. You have got to be kidding me!

Mercury is a heavy metal isn't it? It will be in that lake forever!

This is a terrible, boneheaded, shortsighted and very serious mistake.

[tridim]

35. But their commercials are all about the environment..

They're filled with flowers, singing birds and happy people dancing around like Disney characters. What gives? "Beyond Petrolium" wouldn't lie to us would they?

[NorthernSpy]

107. yup, classic greenwashing...

:puke:

Also, BP runs some of the shoddiest, most dangerous refineries around. How many times has that one in Texas blow up so far?

And then there was that recent big spill in Alaska... That was BP too, wasn't it?

[Highway61]

36. BY 2012!!!!!!!

It will be one big thermometer....stinking, rotten bastards bastards...
It is one of those times that God must be crying

[truebrit71]

37. Whilst at the same time running commercials on TV talking about how 'green' they are...

...this just makes me boiling mad.... :grr:

[barb162]

46. Yes, those commercials are SO out of line to what they really do!

[BrightKnight]

40. TERROR!: 3lbs of mercury 3 miles from the Chicago water intake

Somebody needs to notify DHS. Somebody is going to release 3 lbs or mercury 3 miles from the Chicago drinking water intake. I bet there are water intakes even closer.

I know that the rust belt is desperate for jobs but this is insane.

[shain from kane]

51. My grandson is in Whiting, living with my son's ex-wife. I guess I'm going

to have to pack some bottled water for him. Maybe it's time to set a fire under my son's ass to regain custody, and move him south.

By the way, I believe that the BP refinery in Whiting is the biggest refinery in the entire USA.

[BrightKnight]

67. actually 15 to 20 lbs - You would have to be mad as a hatter to live near that.

I don't see how any sane person could drink the water.

[madhoosier]

41. The Indiana Department of Natural Resources already lists

The Indiana Department of Natural Resources already lists every stream and river in the state of Indiana as too polluted to swim or wade in. Also the state is granting a bunch of tax breaks to the ethanol plants that are being built in Indiana even though they are profitable without any corporate welfare and the get a fifty one cent a gallon Federal tax credit.

I was on the south side of Fort Wayne Indiana last week, the south side was always a blue collar working class neighborhood, it's now almost a ghost town, nearly all the commercial buildings are vacant, no cars on the streets, and lots of vacant housing. Sheriff's sales on houses in Fort Wayne often see decent 1,500 Sq. Ft. houses sell for $20,00.00 to slum lords who buy them for rentals.

[bbgrunt]

42. Mark Twain once said that if the world was coming

to an end, he would move to Indiana because it was always 10 years behind the times. Unfortunately, with Mitch Daniels as governor, we now see Indiana leading in the republican revolution to destroy this country. Indiana also sold off public highways to foreign owners for a one time tax gain.

[whistle]

43. Gawk, so typical of BushCo and his rethuglicon cronies.... so expect

...the Great Lakes fishing industry and shore line tourism industry to begin seeing a Chisso-Minamata disease among their customers and people around the Great Lakes.

<snip>
Minamata disease
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Minamata disease (水俣病, Minamata-byō?), sometimes referred to as Chisso-Minamata disease (窒素水俣病, Chisso-Minamata-byō?), is a neurological syndrome caused by severe mercury poisoning. Symptoms include ataxia, numbness in the hands and feet, general muscle weakness, narrowing of the field of vision and damage to hearing and speech. In extreme cases, insanity, paralysis, coma and death follow within weeks of the onset of symptoms. A congenital form of the disease can also affect fetuses in the womb.

Minamata disease was first discovered in Minamata city in Kumamoto prefecture, Japan in 1956. It was caused by the release of methyl mercury in the industrial wastewater from the Chisso Corporation's chemical factory, which continued from 1932 to 1968. This highly toxic chemical bioaccumulated in shellfish and fish in Minamata Bay and the Shiranui Sea, which when eaten by the local populace resulted in mercury poisoning. While cat, dog, pig and human deaths continued over more than 30 years, the government and company did little to prevent the pollution.

As of March 2001, 2,265 victims had been officially recognised (1,784 of whom had died)<1> and over 10,000 had received financial compensation from Chisso.<2> Lawsuits and claims for compensation continue to this day.

A second outbreak of Minamata disease occurred in Niigata Prefecture in 1965. Both the original Minamata disease and Niigata Minamata disease are considered two of the Four Big Pollution Diseases of Japan.

<MORE>

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minamata_disease

[hedgehog]

47. There is no Great Lakes fishing industry, at least not on Lake Ontario.

It's not safe to eat any fish taken in any waterway in New York due to lingering mercury and PCB contamination.

[shain from kane]

57. About 3,000 deaths in 9/11, and the conduct of our lives are forever altered. 2,265 lives affected

by mercury poisoning in one city, and it's business as usual. 50 years later, and claims for compensation continue.

[Hobbs]

44. Had Enough?

Why don't Bush and his cronies just pump their fat cat corporate toxic waste into are children intravenously?

Our Government Representatives need to learn that no means no. No more lies, no more killing, no more wars, no more damaging of are health for corporate profit and K-Street pay offs.

[MetaTrope]

48. Anybody living in Chicago who swims in the lake is gonna love this

:puke:

[LSK]

52. WHY?!?!?! I would think properly disposing of 3 lbs of Mercury

Is not hard or going to break the bank.

[Hobbs]

55. End stage renal failure

is what anyone taking a dip in Lake Michigan should expect. The big Super Tidy Bowl of America.

[BrightKnight]

97. Big Oil can't afford proper pollution controls and waste disposal.

The profit margins in the oil industry are very thin. There would not be enough money left over for all of the mega bonuses.

It is cheaper and easier to bribe the neocons.

[progressoid]

53. What's the big deal? It just sinks to the bottom right?

Do I have to add this...:sarcasm:

[mzmolly]

56. Perhaps they can use it to preserve vaccines instead?

Kind of a win/win ya know? :sarcasm:

[Peregrine Took]

58. Looks like this Illinoisian will be $taying away from the $tinky red state to

my east - for a long, long time.

[ooglymoogly]

59. This is further proof of the depth of the insanity we have fallen into nt.

[amandabeech]

61. As an earlier poster said,

let's sic the lawyers on them, public and private.

I grew up 10 miles from the Lake in Michigan. This kind of crap simply has to stop.

[Vinca]

62. It's hard to believe, given what we know about mercury,

that something as insane as this would be LEGAL! Why should we be afraid of terrorists poisoning us when our own lawmakers are apparently sanctioning it?

[zalinda]

63. Maybe you could get in contact with some one

who could use this http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/6917753.stm as a defense against dumping. The oil companies are making record profits, putting a filter on to catch the mercury, shouldn't cut too much into their profits.

I know that our lake, Onondaga Lake, is loaded with Mercury, no one's been able to swim in it for over a hundred years. Of course, it's a much smaller lake, but it can kill a lake.

zalinda

[RestoreGore]

65. MAKE THEM DRINK IT

This is heartbreaking and outrageous. Can we do anything?

[Hobbs]

66. Question

How can Indiana Dept of Environmental Management give an exemption on federal law? Did they succeed from the Union?

I can't take a dump in the park or in the streets of Chicago, but BP can take a dump in my drinking water.

[Like It Is]

68. BOYCOTT BP NOW !

And keep it up till they clean up their act once and for all.

[LiberalFighter]

83. Need to Boycott Indiana too since Indiana Governor Mitch Daniels doesn't see a problem with it.

[Like It Is]

98. Typical Repug Reaction!

Pollution doesn't bother them.

[TheModernTerrorist]

70. oh my god!

fuck that! I just went swimming in Lake Michigan yesterday...

[Deep13]

71. Deep13 gets OK to dump BP as gasoline supplier.

assholes

[Mojambo]

74. I was going to say unfuckingbelievable, but this is totallyfuckingbelievable. n/t

[NoodleyAppendage]

75. BP = Bathing in Pollution

So much for their "pro-environment" stance. Why is their even a need to dump mercury anywhere? Couldn't they capture it and resell to industry that may be able to put it to good purpose?

J

[Initech]

76. Once again, the corporate asswipes win every time!

This is absolutely fucking outrageous! :grr: :argh:

[Massachusetts]

80. The corporate rape of OUR country continues unabated

[LiberalFighter]

82. This is actually old news

[krkaufman]

84. Nice that the Indiana Dept of Env. Mgmt. has OK'd dumping all that mercury ...

... just a few miles away from Chicago's beaches.

[Snarkoleptic]

89. The larger concern is the fact that MILLIONS of Chicago...

and suburban Chicago residents are supplied with Lake Michigan water through their municipal water systems.
The overwhelming majority of people who live within 30 miles of Chicago are drinking this crap.

[smtpgirl]

88. Won't eat anymore fresh water fish, that's for sure

[knitter4democracy]

92. We need to get Gov. Granholm on this.

Michigan owns more of Lake Michigan than Indiana does by far. There are also treaties with Canada about all of the Great Lakes (since water from Lake Michigan flows into Lake Huron, too). We need to get the Canadian government on this, too.

[rudy23]

93. Payback against Chicago for being "blue". New Orleans II.

Maybe Rove figures if he can make Chicago unsafe, he can scatter the blue voters amongst the midwest, the way they are doing in New Orleans.

Then they can give them trailers made of Mercury to live in.

[BrightKnight]

99. Poor people will get sick and die and others will buy filters.

It is possible to install shower and drinking water filters in every home. A household filter system is about $800. Shower and faucet filters are about $100. Filters must be replaced periodically. The cost of installing household filters would be a lot more than the cost of installing proper pollution controls at the source.

The cost of all of those sick and developmentally damaged people is going to be high. Nobody will notice and BE's PE numbers will look great for the next 5 years.

[sarcasmo]

94. Corporat Amerika shits on my State again.

[AllyCat]

101. Shouldn't the other states on the Great Lakes be allowed a say in this?

Not only that, the Great Lakes are constantly eye-balled as the great reservoir of fresh water for the rest of the region. Who would want to drink that?

[ryanmuegge]

103. Remember that dumb bitch with the BP shirt at Live Earth?

What an idiot.

Their reputation as a "green" oil company isn't based on reality. This is just more evidence of it.

[baghdad_bush]

105. I have never and will never buy anything from BP. NEVER!

[Nihil]

109. Guess you haven't got a car then?

If you've got down the list as far as BP then you must have crossed off
just about every other major in the oil industry.

On the other hand, if you are running your car on home-grown biofuel
then well done!

(Of course, if you *haven't* got a car then your boycott of BP really
doesn't matter does it?)
:shrug:

[NorthernSpy]

108. poisoning a lake is environmental terrorism

If al Qaeda were dumping mercury in our lakes, we'd call it what it is.