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laststeamtrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-06-07 03:53 AM Original message |
Air Force grounds entire fleet of F-15s |
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Indi Guy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-06-07 04:41 AM Response to Original message |
1. This is disturbing news. |
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tom_paine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-06-07 04:55 AM Response to Original message |
2. Not good. Our nation's security is so very much worse since 2000. |
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Indi Guy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-06-07 05:22 AM Response to Reply #2 |
5. A clusterfuck indeed. |
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lovuian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-06-07 02:49 PM Response to Reply #2 |
40. They have been stealing Billions and letting the military |
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Indi Guy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-06-07 04:55 AM Response to Original message |
3. I wouldn't be surprised to see an early attack on the US now, |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-06-07 05:54 AM Response to Reply #3 |
7. Thank you for your concern. |
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Sweet Pea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-06-07 05:55 AM Response to Reply #3 |
8. Who would attack us? |
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ChairmanAgnostic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-06-07 07:22 AM Response to Reply #8 |
17. Belgium. obviously |
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Algorem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-06-07 09:21 AM Response to Reply #8 |
21. Sadaam loyalists could still slip through some of their WMD's |
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ChairmanAgnostic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-06-07 12:56 PM Response to Reply #21 |
33. hell, with all they hid, they could attack the grand canyon! |
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Algorem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-06-07 02:08 PM Response to Reply #33 |
37. that hole on earth could open a can of worms which would be a |
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ChairmanAgnostic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-06-07 02:44 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. would that be the kettle calling a pot black? |
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johncoby2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-06-07 05:05 AM Response to Original message |
4. $540 Billion a year on defense, and our planes are falling apart? |
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gratuitous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-06-07 09:51 AM Response to Reply #4 |
25. Now, if this was an education program |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-06-07 05:51 AM Response to Original message |
6. Cost of F-22 is $360 million each for the first 183 planes ($62 billion) |
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unhappycamper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-06-07 06:01 AM Response to Reply #6 |
9. And the F-22 is in the shop for corrosion repairs. |
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Kolesar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-06-07 06:37 AM Response to Reply #9 |
15. It was intended to be ready for combat by 1997,but the Raptor has yet to fly a single combat mission |
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KeepItReal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-06-07 09:47 AM Response to Reply #15 |
24. How can that be? I saw a flight of them in Transformers |
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ChairmanAgnostic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-06-07 07:24 AM Response to Reply #6 |
18. Didn't a whole flock of these |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 08:44 AM Response to Reply #6 |
41. Cost of upgrading existing F-15 fleet: $3 billion. You do the math. |
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entanglement (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 04:16 PM Response to Reply #6 |
42. The F-22 is only intended to replace the F-15 C/ D, not the newer F-15E variant |
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leftchick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-06-07 06:07 AM Response to Original message |
10. how can a fighter jet protect against a terrorist attack? |
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Indi Guy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-06-07 06:23 AM Response to Reply #10 |
11. It's not a matter of "better," it's a matter of "both" |
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leftchick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-06-07 06:25 AM Response to Reply #11 |
13. sorry |
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Kolesar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-06-07 06:34 AM Response to Reply #10 |
14. The Air Force *should have* shot down three of the hijacked airliners on 9/11 |
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ChairmanAgnostic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-06-07 07:29 AM Response to Reply #10 |
19. hey, they are radar invisible, That is how. sheesh |
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formercia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-06-07 09:44 AM Response to Reply #19 |
23. As if the insurgents have radar. |
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daleo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-06-07 01:07 PM Response to Reply #10 |
35. Well, if terrorists were going to hit a building with a hijacked plane... |
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sss1977 (206 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-06-07 06:25 AM Response to Original message |
12. uh huh... |
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RC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-06-07 06:44 AM Response to Reply #12 |
16. Useless because they were ordered to stay on the ground. |
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Vinca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-06-07 07:38 AM Response to Original message |
20. Time for Dubya to drag out the Chinese Visa card again. |
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Massachusetts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-06-07 09:34 AM Response to Original message |
22. The Military Industrial Complex will continue to suck up OUR tax dollars |
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SyntaxError (378 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-06-07 10:20 AM Response to Original message |
26. So is this a way to get more F-22s? |
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Robbien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-06-07 12:49 PM Response to Original message |
27. F-15s Grounded after Crash |
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wuushew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-06-07 12:49 PM Response to Reply #27 |
28. Israel grounding its F-15Is is good news |
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onehandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-06-07 12:49 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. Not really. |
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ChairmanAgnostic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-06-07 12:49 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. oh damn. |
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onehandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-06-07 12:50 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. Uh...with missiles. |
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ChairmanAgnostic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-06-07 12:55 PM Response to Reply #31 |
32. even small nukes are pretty heavy |
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Beerboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-06-07 12:56 PM Response to Original message |
34. fwiw, the F-15 from wiki: |
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kineneb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-06-07 02:07 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. I knew they were old |
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Beerboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-06-07 02:13 PM Response to Reply #36 |
38. No, the F-15 was after Viet-Nam. |
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