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Sat Nov-10-07 04:33 PM Original message |
Spain's king tells Venezuela's Chavez to "shut up" |
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treestar
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Sat Nov-10-07 04:38 PM Response to Original message |
1. If Zapatero wanted to criticize Chavez when he was right there |
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ellisonz
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Sat Nov-10-07 04:56 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. And wouldn't it be expected to be smacked down? |
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liberation
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Sat Nov-10-07 05:46 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Agreed, Chavez is a loud mouth buffoon. |
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Sat Nov-10-07 06:05 PM Response to Reply #4 |
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liberation
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Sat Nov-10-07 06:23 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. I guess you only got your icon right to be more akin to your level of mental power, eh? |
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Joe Chi Minh
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Sat Nov-10-07 06:40 PM Response to Reply #8 |
12. Who would have been your favourite leftist leader? It would be very interesting to know. |
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Sat Nov-10-07 06:47 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. Poster #8 is correct |
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Joe Chi Minh
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Sat Nov-10-07 07:00 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. On the contrary, I'm fascinated at the thought of which leftist politician, |
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Sun Nov-11-07 07:11 PM Response to Reply #14 |
115. Chavez is not a dictator |
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ellisonz
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Mon Nov-12-07 02:50 AM Response to Reply #115 |
129. Nah...he just has authoritarian tendencies! |
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StClone
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Sat Nov-10-07 10:02 PM Response to Reply #8 |
38. Dictator? |
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JoFerret
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Sun Nov-11-07 07:46 PM Response to Reply #4 |
120. Chavez is NOT the messenger we need |
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ellisonz
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Mon Nov-12-07 02:57 AM Response to Reply #4 |
130. Welcome to DU! |
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itcfish
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Thu Nov-15-07 09:41 AM Response to Reply #4 |
149. What Are You Talking About??? |
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struggle4progress
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Sun Nov-11-07 03:33 PM Response to Reply #1 |
93. Transcription: the clash between Chavez, Zapatero and Spain’s King (EiTB) |
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Andrushka
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Sun Nov-11-07 08:46 PM Response to Reply #93 |
123. Thanks for posting that |
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BestCenter
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Sat Nov-10-07 05:44 PM Response to Original message |
3. The thing I love most about this story |
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go west young man
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Sun Nov-11-07 12:09 AM Response to Reply #3 |
50. Part of the British/American media lambasting of anything Chavez. |
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BestCenter
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Sun Nov-11-07 02:23 AM Response to Reply #50 |
52. Laughable term? |
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Sun Nov-11-07 09:50 AM Response to Reply #52 |
67. It is hilarious... |
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BestCenter
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Sun Nov-11-07 02:31 PM Response to Reply #67 |
80. People like figureheads |
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go west young man
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Sun Nov-11-07 03:24 PM Response to Reply #52 |
90. I am British and we should do away with the monarchy. It's a stone age |
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BestCenter
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Sun Nov-11-07 05:57 PM Response to Reply #90 |
108. Well, bully for you |
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go west young man
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Mon Nov-12-07 12:10 PM Response to Reply #108 |
134. Yes Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland, and even the Faulkland Islands |
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Judi Lynn
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Sun Nov-11-07 06:40 PM Response to Reply #50 |
109. You're right on every point. You notice the meeting itself, and the fact that Latin America |
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Mon Nov-12-07 08:27 AM Response to Reply #109 |
131. How deep their sense of "right and wrong" really reaches: |
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Thu Nov-15-07 09:09 PM Response to Reply #50 |
151. well, given that Chavez has responded |
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EFerrari
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Sun Nov-11-07 03:29 PM Response to Reply #3 |
92. Then you obviously don't know what a threat Chavez poses |
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UTUSN
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Sat Nov-10-07 05:51 PM Response to Original message |
5. As a Democratic party member in the fullest democratic sense, I am |
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liberation
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Sat Nov-10-07 06:24 PM Response to Reply #5 |
9. I am with you on that one... |
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ohio2007
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Sat Nov-10-07 06:21 PM Response to Original message |
7. Spain ! No oil for you! Come back One year! |
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Sat Nov-10-07 06:25 PM Response to Original message |
10. Anyone who maintains the title of king should STFU. |
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muryan
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Sat Nov-10-07 06:40 PM Response to Reply #10 |
11. an attention whore who cant stand to see cameras turned on anyone but himself |
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tabasco
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Sat Nov-10-07 06:54 PM Response to Reply #11 |
15. I couldn't care less about Chavez. |
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Bicoastal
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Sat Nov-10-07 10:26 PM Response to Reply #15 |
41. "The Venezuelan people seem to like him okay." |
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EFerrari
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Sun Nov-11-07 02:23 PM Response to Reply #41 |
79. Reporters Without Borders are a RW group who is capitalizing |
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davidinalameda
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Sun Nov-11-07 07:01 PM Response to Reply #79 |
112. funny I didn't see anything right wing on their website |
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EFerrari
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Mon Nov-12-07 02:19 AM Response to Reply #112 |
128. Don't take my word for it. Track who they cover and how and |
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EFerrari
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Mon Nov-12-07 12:54 PM Response to Reply #112 |
135. Here's the SourceWatch link. Notice they get most of their funding |
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davidinalameda
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Mon Nov-12-07 08:19 PM Response to Reply #135 |
138. Cuba and Venezuela I can understand |
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Judi Lynn
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Mon Nov-12-07 09:22 PM Response to Reply #138 |
139. Too bad you weren't at DU during the run-up to the overthrow of Aristide, |
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davidinalameda
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Tue Nov-13-07 09:38 PM Response to Reply #139 |
142. beloved Aristide? |
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Judi Lynn
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Tue Nov-13-07 10:07 PM Response to Reply #142 |
143. He most certainly was beloved by the poor, meaning almost all of Haiti |
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davidinalameda
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Wed Nov-14-07 11:47 PM Response to Reply #143 |
146. so all of his actions were "beloved" as well? |
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StClone
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Sat Nov-10-07 10:06 PM Response to Reply #11 |
39. Being Boisterous, obnoxious, loud |
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muryan
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Sun Nov-11-07 02:57 AM Response to Reply #39 |
53. i judge a man by his actions, not his words |
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StClone
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Sun Nov-11-07 06:43 AM Response to Reply #53 |
65. Chavez avoided a CIA coup. |
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muryan
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Sun Nov-11-07 03:49 PM Response to Reply #65 |
96. yawn |
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StClone
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Sun Nov-11-07 09:10 PM Response to Reply #96 |
124. That's because |
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Andrushka
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Mon Nov-12-07 01:20 AM Response to Reply #53 |
127. Er... |
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leftist_not_liberal
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Mon Nov-12-07 08:30 AM Response to Reply #53 |
132. Maybe you should stop waiting for the truth to leak from the fascists' media tit |
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EFerrari
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Sun Nov-11-07 06:10 AM Response to Reply #11 |
63. He's reorganizing Latin America |
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muryan
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Sun Nov-11-07 04:00 PM Response to Reply #63 |
97. so please inform me |
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EFerrari
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Sun Nov-11-07 04:17 PM Response to Reply #97 |
99. Here's a thread that describes the reforms: |
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Judi Lynn
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Sun Nov-11-07 05:40 PM Response to Reply #99 |
104. Thanks for posting this, sfexpat2000. I'm certain some people have absolutely no idea whatsoever |
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Peace Patriot
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Sat Nov-10-07 06:43 PM Response to Original message |
13. I suggest you all read Naomi Klein's "Latin American Shock Resistance," in the |
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Joe Chi Minh
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Sat Nov-10-07 07:04 PM Response to Reply #13 |
17. Been reading it this evening. Great news. |
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cali
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Sat Nov-10-07 08:21 PM Response to Reply #13 |
23. Zapatera is a socialist |
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MnFats
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Sun Nov-11-07 07:38 PM Response to Reply #23 |
118. thank you. i was hoping someone would credit Juan Carlos.... |
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StClone
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Sat Nov-10-07 10:07 PM Response to Reply #13 |
40. Thanks |
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rAVES
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Sun Nov-11-07 03:22 AM Response to Reply #13 |
54. Excellent piece. Thanks for posting. |
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EFerrari
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Sun Nov-11-07 03:11 PM Response to Reply #13 |
88. Thanks for that link! |
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Judi Lynn
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Sun Nov-11-07 05:45 PM Response to Reply #13 |
105. This is something to read and to share. Plan to finish it tonight. Looking forward so much, |
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Mon Nov-12-07 01:02 PM Response to Reply #13 |
137. Something better to do? Than smearing leftists? |
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EstoniaKat
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Sat Nov-10-07 07:16 PM Response to Original message |
18. Chavez called a buffoon? |
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Progressive Friend
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Sat Nov-10-07 07:35 PM Response to Original message |
19. Aznar WAS a fascist and a stooge of Bush! |
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Toni26
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Sat Nov-10-07 07:43 PM Response to Reply #19 |
20. you´re wrong |
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Slyder
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Sat Nov-10-07 08:14 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. I have tremendous respect for King Juan Carlos |
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cali
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Sat Nov-10-07 08:26 PM Response to Reply #22 |
26. Thank you for that informative post. |
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EFerrari
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Sun Nov-11-07 03:37 AM Response to Reply #22 |
56. "The legitimacy only royalty can convey"? |
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NashVegas
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Sun Nov-11-07 10:37 AM Response to Reply #56 |
70. In This Case |
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EFerrari
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Sun Nov-11-07 01:17 PM Response to Reply #70 |
73. I think you are right. n/t |
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cali
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Sat Nov-10-07 08:27 PM Response to Reply #20 |
28. Welcome to DU! |
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Peace Patriot
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Sat Nov-10-07 08:34 PM Response to Reply #20 |
31. Chavez didn't call the Spanish people fascists, and didn't call you a fascist. |
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Toni26
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Sat Nov-10-07 09:18 PM Response to Reply #31 |
35. ... |
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EFerrari
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Sun Nov-11-07 03:12 PM Response to Reply #35 |
89. Welcome to DU, Toni26. |
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Progressive Friend
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Sat Nov-10-07 09:10 PM Response to Reply #20 |
34. Anzar was/is a Bush stooge, and Chavez is not a "dictator" |
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Tue Nov-13-07 12:05 AM Response to Reply #34 |
140. Stooge of a stooge? A new genus! |
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EFerrari
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Sun Nov-11-07 03:41 PM Response to Reply #20 |
95. Perhaps you should read both your own history and |
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Sat Nov-10-07 08:23 PM Response to Reply #19 |
24. It was Zapatera who was speaking |
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Peace Patriot
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Sat Nov-10-07 08:59 PM Response to Reply #24 |
33. A socialist, and he can't take a little lively debate, or remarks, from someone |
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BestCenter
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Sat Nov-10-07 11:06 PM Response to Reply #33 |
42. I must disagree |
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EFerrari
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Sun Nov-11-07 03:08 PM Response to Reply #42 |
87. Sure. He should have just sat there and allowed himself |
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BestCenter
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Mon Nov-12-07 12:34 AM Response to Reply #87 |
126. He couldn't have waited for his next turn to speak? |
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Sun Nov-11-07 12:03 AM Response to Reply #33 |
48. you're a riot. |
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Sat Nov-10-07 07:44 PM Response to Original message |
21. a KING criticises someone at a meeting of Democratic nations ? |
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Sat Nov-10-07 08:24 PM Response to Reply #21 |
25. Actually, the SOCIALIST Zapatera criticized |
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Sat Nov-10-07 08:26 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. Juan carlos kept pretty stumm about Franco... |
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Sat Nov-10-07 08:29 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. I'm not defending his telling Chavez to shut up and I wouldn't |
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Henny Penny
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Sat Nov-10-07 08:33 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. Question... |
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Toni26
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Sat Nov-10-07 08:42 PM Response to Reply #27 |
32. could be right. |
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EFerrari
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Sun Nov-11-07 06:17 AM Response to Reply #32 |
64. Please inform us as to how that is opposite. |
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Sat Nov-10-07 09:25 PM Response to Original message |
36. VIDEO here... |
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BestCenter
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Sat Nov-10-07 11:12 PM Response to Reply #36 |
43. I don't really see how. |
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Sun Nov-11-07 07:23 AM Response to Reply #43 |
66. He was still out of line... |
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K8-EEE
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Sat Nov-10-07 09:39 PM Response to Original message |
37. Zapatero ROCKS! My grandpa would love him.... |
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EFerrari
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Sun Nov-11-07 05:34 AM Response to Reply #37 |
61. Chavez is the idiot that is writing gay rights into the constitution. |
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Peace Patriot
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Sun Nov-11-07 02:32 PM Response to Reply #61 |
81. You said it, sfexpat2000! What IS this? A racist thing, or what? Calling Chavez |
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BestCenter
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Sun Nov-11-07 02:39 PM Response to Reply #81 |
83. No one is denying any of that in the article |
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EFerrari
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Sun Nov-11-07 02:56 PM Response to Reply #83 |
85. That is a biased and less than factual account of that event. |
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EFerrari
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Sun Nov-11-07 02:55 PM Response to Reply #81 |
84. Imho, it's a version of American exceptionalism. |
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Sat Nov-10-07 11:14 PM Response to Original message |
44. Both sound like assholes - they should have a joust |
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Xipe Totec
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Sat Nov-10-07 11:34 PM Response to Original message |
45. With all due respect to His Majesty, |
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EFerrari
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Sat Nov-10-07 11:51 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. It's so funny to have a king lecturing Chavez about democracy. |
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Sun Nov-11-07 12:05 AM Response to Reply #46 |
49. ah, more hero worship. |
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Sun Nov-11-07 02:21 AM Response to Reply #46 |
51. Apparently you don't know a single thing about Juan Carlos |
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EFerrari
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Sun Nov-11-07 03:34 AM Response to Reply #51 |
55. Irony must have died and no one told me. n/t |
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BestCenter
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Sun Nov-11-07 05:24 AM Response to Reply #55 |
58. Well, for one thing |
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EFerrari
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Sun Nov-11-07 05:28 AM Response to Reply #58 |
60. Shut up, peons. Sorry, no sale. n/t |
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JVS
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Sun Nov-11-07 03:52 AM Response to Reply #51 |
57. Legitimate says who? |
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BestCenter
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Sun Nov-11-07 05:26 AM Response to Reply #57 |
59. Says the Spaniards, |
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EFerrari
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Sun Nov-11-07 06:01 AM Response to Reply #59 |
62. No, they didn't say that That's just untrue. n/t |
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BestCenter
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Sun Nov-11-07 02:33 PM Response to Reply #62 |
82. A quick glance at their government types speaks otherwise. (n/t) |
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EFerrari
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Sun Nov-11-07 03:02 PM Response to Reply #82 |
86. I think I misread your post last night, and concede that. |
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BestCenter
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Sun Nov-11-07 05:56 PM Response to Reply #86 |
107. No one's doing that. |
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EFerrari
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Sun Nov-11-07 06:53 PM Response to Reply #107 |
111. Yes, if you read this thread, people have done that. |
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JVS
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Sun Nov-11-07 09:40 PM Response to Reply #82 |
125. By that logic any system of government is legitimate |
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UTUSN
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Sun Nov-11-07 12:01 AM Response to Original message |
47. Here are the pics, for the doubters (and there *are* some) |
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leaninglib
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Sun Nov-11-07 10:05 AM Response to Original message |
68. The round mound from Caracas town is an immature clown. |
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DuaneBidoux
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Sun Nov-11-07 10:35 AM Response to Original message |
69. Castro his hero? Face it, this idiot has zero brains and zero class. |
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EFerrari
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Sun Nov-11-07 01:19 PM Response to Reply #69 |
74. By that measure, Venezuela is more democratic than we are. n/t |
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DuaneBidoux
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Sun Nov-11-07 01:29 PM Response to Reply #74 |
76. If you believe that then you've long had your head where the sun don't shine |
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EFerrari
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Sun Nov-11-07 01:35 PM Response to Reply #76 |
78. The difference between belief and knowledge is information |
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leftist_not_liberal
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Mon Nov-12-07 08:41 AM Response to Reply #69 |
133. Oh yeah, you get to determine the direction of America |
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Bacchus39
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Sun Nov-11-07 12:00 PM Response to Original message |
71. hahahahahaha |
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Tab
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Sun Nov-11-07 12:53 PM Response to Original message |
72. Well, I feel humbled |
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EFerrari
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Sun Nov-11-07 01:19 PM Response to Reply #72 |
75. What a wonderful story. You can't make this stuff up! |
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fascisthunter
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Sun Nov-11-07 01:32 PM Response to Original message |
77. The King Loses His Cool |
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Sun Nov-11-07 03:28 PM Response to Original message |
91. So the argument is that the fascist choice of Spain should be "respected?" |
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Sun Nov-11-07 03:36 PM Response to Reply #91 |
94. Chavez: "A fascist isn't human, a snake is more human than a fascist." |
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cali
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Sun Nov-11-07 04:10 PM Response to Reply #94 |
98. You do? How interesting. |
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Sun Nov-11-07 05:53 PM Response to Reply #98 |
106. "demonizing "evil" does nothing..." -- do you realize how funny that is? |
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cali
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Sun Nov-11-07 07:01 PM Response to Reply #106 |
113. no. explain it to me. |
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Sun Nov-11-07 07:15 PM Response to Reply #113 |
116. What do you think Arendt's argument was? |
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cali
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Sun Nov-11-07 07:36 PM Response to Reply #116 |
117. I actually know that she was cautioning people about |
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Judi Lynn
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Sun Nov-11-07 04:49 PM Response to Original message |
100. One only has to look google images, under Aznar + Bush to see what has been |
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Judi Lynn
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Sun Nov-11-07 05:03 PM Response to Original message |
101. Venezuela Defends Chavez After Spat With Spanish King |
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Sun Nov-11-07 07:49 PM Response to Reply #101 |
121. The Spanish people back what the king said so looks like we have a "do over" |
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itcfish
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Thu Nov-15-07 01:14 PM Response to Reply #101 |
150. Lady |
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Judi Lynn
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Thu Nov-15-07 10:09 PM Response to Reply #150 |
152. What is hated is what they actually did. Don't be ignorant. n/t |
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Judi Lynn
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Sun Nov-11-07 05:07 PM Response to Original message |
102. His Highness at the Summit |
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Sun Nov-11-07 07:03 PM Response to Reply #102 |
114. my, you are fond of propaganda. |
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Sun Nov-11-07 08:19 PM Response to Reply #102 |
122. Yeah, this is pretty tough anti-monarchy talk coming from a CANADIAN-based website... |
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Judi Lynn
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Sun Nov-11-07 05:29 PM Response to Original message |
103. Cold day, hot tempers in Iberian American Summit |
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Sun Nov-11-07 06:51 PM Response to Original message |
110. Good for him. Hugo needs to be told to shut up every now and then |
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Sun Nov-11-07 07:45 PM Response to Original message |
119. Spaniards back king for telling Chavez to shut up |
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Mon Nov-12-07 12:58 PM Response to Original message |
136. I'm sick of criminals being treated with respect just because they have fancy titles. |
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Tue Nov-13-07 10:04 AM Response to Original message |
141. Chavez is a boorish thug... |
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Judi Lynn
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Tue Nov-13-07 10:10 PM Response to Reply #141 |
144. Please provide a source for your revelation of Chavez's inclination to use violence. |
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Andrushka
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Tue Nov-13-07 10:12 PM Response to Reply #144 |
145. Bbbut but, Judi Lynn, |
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Judi Lynn
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Thu Nov-15-07 03:27 AM Response to Reply #145 |
148. Oh, BEEP! |
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Thu Nov-15-07 01:53 AM Response to Reply #141 |
147. examples of this?? |
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