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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 05:37 PM Original message |
Parents [hundreds] ordered to court for kids' shots |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 05:43 PM Response to Original message |
1. Good, unless there's a medical reason, all kids should have their shots |
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alarimer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 11:19 PM Response to Reply #1 |
10. Those that do not vaccinate are "free-riders" on those that do |
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AnneD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-20-07 03:42 PM Response to Reply #10 |
121. As witnessed by the really bad measles epidemic.... |
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OKthatsIT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 03:16 AM Response to Reply #1 |
23. If your kid is vacinated you don't have to worry, do you? |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 12:58 PM Response to Reply #23 |
42. There is no connection to AA and autism -- oh brother, here we go |
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Megahurtz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-20-07 02:35 PM Response to Reply #23 |
117. Probably Because Of |
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AnneD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-20-07 03:46 PM Response to Reply #117 |
122. They took that out... |
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OKthatsIT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 03:33 AM Response to Reply #1 |
25. More information here |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 12:59 PM Response to Reply #25 |
43. Just keep on fooling yourself that vaccines aren't necessary |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 01:15 PM Response to Reply #25 |
49. Your situation is exceptional.. |
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Maine-ah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 12:18 PM Response to Reply #49 |
99. we're having a mumps outbreak here |
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Niccolo_Macchiavelli (641 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 10:46 PM Response to Reply #1 |
90. There are many ways to strenghten Immune system |
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AX10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 05:43 PM Response to Original message |
2. You don't need every vaccine out there. |
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drm604 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 05:51 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Where in that article does it |
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funflower (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 05:54 PM Response to Original message |
4. The schools are entitled to create an environment that is free of |
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Flora (102 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 12:27 AM Response to Reply #4 |
14. I agree |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 02:48 AM Response to Reply #4 |
20. Children are required to go to school, it's the law |
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puebloknot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 06:57 AM Response to Reply #20 |
31. And then send all those little unvaccinated, home-schooled kids... |
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bananas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 06:06 PM Response to Original message |
5. "either get their children vaccinated on the spot or risk up to 10 days in jail" |
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AX10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 10:45 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. Mother Russia here we come! |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 03:44 PM Response to Reply #8 |
108. 'Cause we voted in Stalin...? |
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bananas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 06:11 PM Response to Original message |
6. "It's cute. It looks like their parents are dragging them to church," the judge said. |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 06:22 PM Response to Original message |
7. good. -- the vaccines do way more than keep one individual disease free. nt |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 11:16 PM Response to Original message |
9. Good. Kids need vaccines. |
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villager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 11:30 PM Response to Original message |
11. Jesus Christ! No wonder Libertarians are skeptical about "Liberals" |
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AX10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 12:07 AM Response to Reply #11 |
12. Mother Russia it is. It was this kind of nanny state crap... |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 12:16 AM Response to Reply #12 |
13. Will this be the arguement when you are being forced to get a "chip" . . . ???? |
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AX10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 12:29 AM Response to Reply #13 |
15. We agree that authoritarian solutions are wrong. |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 01:03 PM Response to Reply #13 |
45. Links? |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 01:30 PM Response to Reply #45 |
57. Links to what --- ??? ???? |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 03:46 PM Response to Reply #57 |
109. I'm thinking the requested links are for mandated chip implant laws... |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 02:50 AM Response to Reply #12 |
21. I don't know what fringe you are |
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AX10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 12:03 PM Response to Reply #21 |
38. I don't oppose certain vaccines. |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 07:50 AM Response to Reply #38 |
98. Ever had accute SHINGLES? |
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Pakhet (308 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 01:18 PM Response to Reply #98 |
100. you ever heard of a 3yr old with shingles??? |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 01:19 PM Response to Reply #21 |
50. I doubt anyone opposes ALL vaccines, or even the overall concept --- |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 01:24 PM Response to Reply #50 |
52. There is no factual documentation |
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ChrisCat (54 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 02:04 PM Response to Reply #52 |
103. I remember dragging my semi-conscious child to the ER |
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AnneD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-20-07 04:04 PM Response to Reply #103 |
123. My guess is that.... |
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MUSTANG_2004 (688 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 06:33 PM Response to Reply #52 |
111. Actually, vaccines have caused serious problems |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 01:02 PM Response to Reply #11 |
44. Oh brother |
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Raine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 08:17 PM Response to Reply #11 |
85. I can't believe it either |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 12:37 AM Response to Original message |
16. Good. |
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Liberty Belle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 12:44 AM Response to Original message |
17. Outrageous. Here's what Robert F Kennedy Jr says about mercury & autism dangers from vaccines: |
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arikara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 02:03 AM Response to Reply #17 |
18. The stats actually show that epidemics ended due to improved sanitation, and not vaccination... |
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puebloknot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 07:09 AM Response to Reply #18 |
33. Thanks for courageously posting this. In time, we'll look back... |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 01:05 PM Response to Reply #18 |
46. Oh dear God -- I bet that's a surprise to Polio and Small Pox |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 02:57 AM Response to Reply #17 |
22. thimerosal has been removed |
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OKthatsIT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 03:51 AM Response to Reply #22 |
26. No it has not been removed...they're lying |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 04:10 AM Response to Reply #26 |
28. "only in those" |
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puebloknot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 07:01 AM Response to Reply #22 |
32. So a little thimerosal for older children or adults is okay in your book? |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 10:05 PM Response to Reply #32 |
89. On this issue, yes, he is the fringe |
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puebloknot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 03:30 PM Response to Reply #89 |
106. There's no evidence you are willing to take a look at! nt |
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TalkingDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 10:44 AM Response to Reply #22 |
37. And all the other crap that people have severe reactions to? Have they taken all that out too? |
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AX10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 12:05 PM Response to Reply #17 |
39. Increased and improved Santiation is what led to the massive... |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 01:22 PM Response to Reply #39 |
51. AND, believe it or not, lack of sanitary habits in hospitals still plays a large role in hospitals - |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 01:30 PM Response to Reply #51 |
56. There will always be transmission vectors |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 01:40 PM Response to Reply #56 |
63. No one is arguing against SAFE vaccines --- |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 01:41 PM Response to Reply #63 |
64. And coming back to the issue of sanitation, our hospitalis are still having difficulties with this!! |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 02:02 PM Response to Reply #63 |
70. Bullshit |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 02:18 PM Response to Reply #70 |
74. Sanitation continues to be a problem in our hospitals --- |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 02:31 PM Response to Reply #74 |
78. I dont need C-Span |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 07:46 PM Response to Reply #39 |
84. The best sanitation possible won't eliminate polio |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 07:42 PM Response to Reply #17 |
83. So it wouldn't bother you if your daughter got hepatitis |
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BigBearJohn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 02:15 AM Response to Original message |
19. Cancer was practically unknown until compulsory cowpox vaccination began to be introduced! |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 06:51 AM Response to Reply #19 |
29. Wonderful. People died young of diseases before they got old enough to get cancer |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 01:10 PM Response to Reply #29 |
48. Can you believe this thread??? |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 01:24 PM Response to Reply #48 |
53. How many "cures" are we chasing now? Prevention is a more intelligent response --- |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 07:26 PM Response to Reply #53 |
81. Vaccination IS prevention n/t |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 01:07 PM Response to Reply #19 |
47. And I didn't think this thread could get any more bonkers |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 01:33 PM Response to Reply #19 |
59. We're destroying our immune systems and creating new cancers --- |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 02:29 PM Response to Reply #19 |
105. Where do you think the name "cancer" comes from? |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 03:21 AM Response to Original message |
24. Another disgusting step towards fascism. |
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orleans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 03:53 AM Response to Original message |
27. i remember how hard it was for me to sign the waiver at the doctor's office |
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AX10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 12:23 PM Response to Reply #27 |
41. My older brother had a severe reaction to a DPT vaccine... |
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orleans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 11:15 PM Response to Reply #41 |
91. i know you weren't posting that specifically to me, because i didn't |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 01:25 PM Response to Reply #27 |
54. Parents have to sign "waivers" . . . ??? ??? ???? |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 01:35 PM Response to Reply #54 |
60. You sign a waiver |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 01:37 PM Response to Reply #60 |
62. ....obviously we have to get the "right to sue" out of the waivers .. . |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 01:57 PM Response to Reply #62 |
69. No the information |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 01:56 AM Response to Reply #69 |
93. Despite a risk --- when we have numbers as are rising with autism . . . |
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Manifestor_of_Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 02:55 AM Response to Reply #62 |
95. They can't take away your common law right to sue. |
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rAVES (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 01:39 PM Response to Reply #27 |
101. Signing a waiver on a Mandatory vaccine... um.. tell me I'm not the only person who see's the |
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orleans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 02:02 PM Response to Reply #101 |
102. i can't remember if it said i wouldn't hold the doctor's office liable or |
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chatnoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-20-07 11:35 AM Response to Reply #101 |
112. I was waiting for someone to say that. |
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Megahurtz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-20-07 03:03 PM Response to Reply #101 |
118. Yup. |
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puebloknot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 06:51 AM Response to Original message |
30. However...(isn't there always a "however"?)... |
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The2ndWheel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 07:18 AM Response to Original message |
34. It's the jail part that makes it creepy |
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puebloknot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 07:25 AM Response to Reply #34 |
36. They're in bed together. I hope there's a vaccine to prevent... |
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puebloknot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 07:22 AM Response to Original message |
35. "Conventional wisdom" rebutted by modern look at vaccines |
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Oak2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 02:27 PM Response to Reply #35 |
104. Mind boggling... |
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puebloknot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 03:31 PM Response to Reply #104 |
107. Mind-boggling "logic," yours! nt |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 12:20 PM Response to Original message |
40. This all stems from one moron in the UK |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 01:28 PM Response to Reply #40 |
55. How long has the medical community supported male circumcision --- ??? |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 01:43 PM Response to Reply #55 |
65. Stay on topic.. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 01:54 PM Response to Reply #65 |
66. Suggestions that our medical community or all vaccines are safe have to be challenged --- |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 02:07 PM Response to Reply #66 |
71. None of what you have posted re AIDS |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 02:13 PM Response to Reply #71 |
73. Obviously, we're going to have to do a thread on this subject --- !!! |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 02:21 PM Response to Reply #73 |
76. Be sure to cite accepted publications |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 02:25 PM Response to Reply #76 |
77. Why don't you get a heard-start and do some reading about it ---? |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 02:34 PM Response to Reply #77 |
80. Please source your information |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 01:52 AM Response to Reply #80 |
92. As I said . . . at some point I will gather info together on this questionable |
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PittPoliSci (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 03:11 AM Response to Reply #66 |
97. so, you know more than the medical community i take it? |
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Megahurtz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-20-07 03:17 PM Response to Reply #97 |
120. The Medical Community |
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BleedingHeartPatriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 01:33 PM Response to Reply #40 |
58. My grandmother used to talk about how scary it was for parents during the polio outbreaks in |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 01:36 PM Response to Reply #58 |
61. Keep in mind, our "polio" vaccinations in Africa may have had something to do with AIDS --- ???? |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 01:55 PM Response to Reply #61 |
67. I truly hope you are being sarcastic |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 02:21 PM Response to Reply #67 |
75. Some of the polio vaccines were grown in monkey glands . . . |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 02:32 PM Response to Reply #75 |
79. Feel free to post from a real source at any time |
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tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 04:11 PM Response to Reply #75 |
110. Do you have any links supporting that the polio vaccine started AIDS? n/t |
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kitty1 (772 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 01:55 PM Response to Original message |
68. What if there is concern for potential health risks down the road... |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 02:13 PM Response to Reply #68 |
72. NO. They can move to a nation |
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BigBearJohn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 07:27 PM Response to Reply #68 |
82. Doctors publish articles in medical literature about the brain-damaging side effect of vaccinations |
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DavidMS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 08:59 PM Response to Reply #82 |
87. Given the severity of illness... |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 09:24 PM Response to Reply #82 |
88. You are incorrectly citing a 30 year old study. |
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BigBearJohn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 02:36 AM Response to Reply #82 |
94. Could widespread use of vaccines be contributing to the trend of deteriorating health in children? |
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Hosnon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 08:26 PM Response to Original message |
86. I see such vaccinations as part of the cost of living in a society such as ours. |
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Tumbulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 03:05 AM Response to Original message |
96. Who pays for these immunizations? |
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Beerboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-20-07 11:37 AM Response to Original message |
113. Good. |
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boricua79 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-20-07 11:39 AM Response to Original message |
114. look, if the parents don't want the shots for their kids |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-20-07 11:49 AM Response to Reply #114 |
115. Vaccinations are by no means 100% effective.... |
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boricua79 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-20-07 02:03 PM Response to Reply #115 |
116. i agree with your updated comments |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-20-07 03:05 PM Response to Reply #116 |
119. Vaccination is really not a "Nanny" issue. |
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