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pescao (716 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 10:12 PM Original message |
Venezuela threatens to expel US embassy official as referendum nears |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 10:16 PM Response to Original message |
1. Venezuela may expel U.S. envoy over vote suspicions |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 10:18 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. And check it out. You know he never said this: |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 10:20 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. The Mighty Wurlitzer is very busy, see post #4. nt |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 10:39 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. So this is what full tilt boogey looks like. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 10:55 PM Response to Reply #5 |
11. I think this is the first time I've seen this happen while |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 11:01 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. Lots of stuff on Google, or NewsNow.uk. nt |
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LakeSamish706 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 10:18 PM Response to Original message |
2. If I were Chavez I would expel any and all foreigners instantly that the Govt..... |
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davidinalameda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 12:13 AM Response to Reply #2 |
32. so the Russians and the Chinese are now the good guys? |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 02:03 AM Response to Reply #2 |
43. Why would it matter if Bush would accept this kind of BS? |
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Demeter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 06:52 AM Response to Reply #2 |
51. Bush Would Make Them Disappear |
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Throd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 01:14 PM Response to Reply #2 |
65. Send people from a one party state (China) as observers? |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 10:19 PM Response to Original message |
4. Chavez takes ties to 20-year low |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 10:37 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. Again, notice the frame: Chavez did this, not Uribe for |
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nvme (486 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 01:54 AM Response to Reply #4 |
41. Chavez /Uribe spat |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 04:25 AM Response to Reply #41 |
47. If that's the way it happened, who is Senator Piedad Cordoba, and why have news sources |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 10:38 PM Response to Original message |
7. I am so worried for the people of Venezuela right now. |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 10:42 PM Response to Original message |
9. Chavez in close Venezuela vote to expand powers |
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rAVES (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 10:55 PM Response to Original message |
10. "that would allow Chavez indefinite re-election" |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 11:07 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. I'm so disappointed in Reuters. n/t |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 06:50 AM Response to Reply #10 |
50. China, Soviet Union and Cuba had elections |
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clixtox (941 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 10:36 AM Response to Reply #50 |
93. Hear! Hear! That Is For Sure!!! |
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SKKY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 04:59 PM Response to Reply #50 |
102. And just before we invaded Iraq... |
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Cessna Invesco Palin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 07:00 AM Response to Reply #10 |
53. Chavez frames it like that, too. |
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Onlooker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 11:16 PM Response to Original message |
14. Chavez is a nut |
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rAVES (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 11:18 PM Response to Reply #14 |
15. You're correct.. looking out for the poor is so 19....wait.. what? |
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SKKY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 05:02 PM Response to Reply #15 |
104. Explain something to me... |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 11:22 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. Chavez is the future. US foreign policy is nuts. nt |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 02:03 AM Response to Reply #16 |
44. The left wing version of Bush is the future? |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 09:27 AM Response to Reply #44 |
57. Chavez can read. nt |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 12:32 PM Response to Reply #44 |
62. This "child" has led Venezuela into an economic boom since 2003. |
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Tyrone Slothrop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 01:27 PM Response to Reply #62 |
66. "Economic boom"? |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 01:33 PM Response to Reply #66 |
67. Comes from the UN. But what do they know? nt |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 01:40 PM Original message |
Oh, no. Please don't make me chase this down. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 01:44 PM Response to Original message |
70. Oh, and it turns out Professor Hausman is |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 01:49 PM Response to Original message |
71. Wasn't there a UN report? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 01:52 PM Response to Reply #71 |
73. And if I have this right, the shortages are a form of political protest |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 05:22 PM Response to Reply #73 |
107. The problem is |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 06:51 PM Response to Reply #107 |
116. Especially when those "fundamentals" pay for the white middle class |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 07:05 PM Response to Reply #116 |
119. Prices below production cost |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 01:44 PM Response to Reply #62 |
69. Found an article which will seem all too familiar: |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 01:50 PM Response to Reply #69 |
72. Boy, are you good, Judi Lynn! |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 11:14 AM Response to Reply #69 |
95. Correlate that to the rise of crude |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 01:52 PM Response to Reply #44 |
74. "we" |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 11:24 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. Yes, he's a throwback to a time when we could recognize a populist |
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Onlooker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 11:28 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. His election plans are nuts |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 11:32 PM Response to Reply #18 |
20. Nuts? It's been posted ad nauseum that many countries |
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galileo3000 (193 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 11:34 PM Response to Reply #14 |
22. Chavez is nuts. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 11:43 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. Sure. So was Howard Dean. And John Kerry. And so will HRC be |
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galileo3000 (193 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 11:31 PM Response to Original message |
19. I do not like Chavez |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 11:33 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. Is that you, Mr. Dulles? |
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boricua79 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 11:43 PM Response to Original message |
23. CIA money through USAID? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 11:44 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. Have you seen this? Link: |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 11:45 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. Yeah. One trick ponies. Always the same methods. nt |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 11:58 PM Response to Original message |
27. Venezuela veers toward dictatorship |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 12:00 AM Response to Reply #27 |
29. OMFG. They're not going to stop. n/t |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 12:03 AM Response to Reply #29 |
30. Not until Dec. 7th anyway. nt |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 12:16 AM Response to Reply #30 |
33. The vote is on 12/2 and if the thing passes, I think this will get worse. n/t |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 12:20 AM Response to Reply #33 |
34. My mistake. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 12:28 AM Response to Reply #34 |
36. The invalidating claim will not be made on the vote |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 12:36 AM Response to Reply #36 |
37. That won't go anywhere by itself, it's just a pretext. nt |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 12:57 AM Response to Reply #37 |
38. Of course. But, in itself, the legal challenge is not a bad thing. |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 01:08 AM Response to Reply #38 |
39. I have a great deal of faith in the Bushite pattern of stepping on their dicks |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 01:11 AM Response to Reply #39 |
40. LOL! Yes, there is always that potential. |
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Demeter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 06:56 AM Response to Reply #34 |
52. BushCo and Its Subsidiaries and Holding Companies Have a Little Destablization |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 09:25 AM Response to Reply #52 |
56. True. The threats to invade seem likely to be empty too. nt |
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Peace Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 03:12 PM Response to Reply #52 |
76. I don't think the Bushites are going to feel any pain. They've likely got their |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 03:22 PM Response to Reply #76 |
77. I think you're right. They are genetically kleptos. |
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Demeter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 05:09 PM Response to Reply #76 |
85. I Hope You Are Wrong, But My Stomach Is Queasy, Too |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 11:59 PM Response to Original message |
28. VIOLENCE IN VENEZUELA |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 12:13 AM Response to Original message |
31. Venezuelan leader's power play has echoes of Castro |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 12:26 AM Response to Original message |
35. Chávez's Vision in the Hills |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 02:02 AM Response to Reply #35 |
42. NYT's also has a hit piece out: Chavez is Franco, Castro and Putin. |
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dantyrant (278 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 02:20 AM Response to Reply #42 |
45. Check this out.... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 02:32 AM Response to Reply #45 |
46. I'm keeping my helmet on. |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 09:28 AM Response to Reply #42 |
58. And who can forget Pol Pot and Idi Amin? nt |
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Cessna Invesco Palin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 01:40 PM Response to Reply #42 |
68. Can we please make a distinction... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 01:53 PM Response to Reply #68 |
75. No, that's right and either can be hit pieces if they misrepresent fact. n/t |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 04:35 AM Response to Original message |
48. Pescao, just found this one from the Guardian:Coup d’état rumblings in Venezuela |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 06:45 AM Response to Original message |
49. A CIA plan to destabilize Venezuela... |
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fasttense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 07:32 AM Response to Original message |
54. Sounds so familiar. |
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galileo3000 (193 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 08:07 AM Response to Original message |
55. Chavez smells of burning brimstone. |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 10:25 AM Response to Original message |
59. pescao, seems like yesterday, you were in Caracas, and we DU'ers were glue to our monitors, waiting |
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pescao (716 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 12:24 PM Response to Reply #59 |
60. very similar scenario |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 12:28 PM Response to Reply #60 |
61. Good for you! That's fantastic. |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 01:13 PM Response to Reply #60 |
64. Hope you'll get a good turnout, too. |
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classysassy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 12:47 PM Response to Original message |
63. Racist BS |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 03:31 PM Response to Original message |
78. Has anyone produced a picture of the alleged memo yet? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 03:35 PM Response to Reply #78 |
79. I haven't yet. n/t |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 03:37 PM Response to Reply #79 |
80. Maybe they're holding it for an Election Day surprise |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 03:38 PM Response to Reply #80 |
81. There is so much going on, I'm not discarding anything. n/t |
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killbotfactory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 04:08 PM Response to Original message |
82. The US is fanning the flames of political violence |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 04:25 PM Response to Original message |
83. Poll suggests Venezuela's Chavez in 7-point referendum lead |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 04:49 PM Response to Original message |
84. In Venezuela, petrodollars breed opacity |
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Peace Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-30-07 02:13 AM Response to Reply #84 |
87. It has been a real lesson to me to see news sources that I once had some respect for |
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dantyrant (278 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-30-07 03:25 AM Response to Reply #87 |
88. IHT... Isn't that just the NYT repackaged? |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-30-07 03:50 AM Response to Reply #87 |
89. Newspapers, wire services have been used for publishing CIA designed propaganda for decades, which |
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Peace Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-30-07 06:06 AM Response to Reply #89 |
90. Still, the corporate news occasionally put up some battles--or at least |
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SKKY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 05:17 PM Response to Reply #87 |
106. Yea, I feel your pain... |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 05:59 PM Response to Reply #87 |
109. NPR too. Must be a GLOBAL |
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devilgrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 05:11 PM Response to Original message |
86. Yeah Chavez is batshit crazy..... uh huh.... right..... sure.... |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 04:46 AM Response to Original message |
91. Greens, Citing Revealed Memo, Urge Bush to Cancel CIA Plans to Interfere in Venezuelan Referendum an |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 06:06 PM Response to Reply #91 |
110. Do you HONESTLY believe Chavez |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 06:15 PM Response to Reply #110 |
111. Is that right? You don't seem to be familiar with the place. Save that for someone who hasn't read |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 06:20 PM Response to Reply #111 |
112. I have read PLENTY of FISA |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 06:24 PM Response to Reply #112 |
113. Oh! Ohhhhhhhh! Wow! Now I see it! Now I get it! Oh, my God! |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 06:32 PM Response to Reply #113 |
114. Two picture choice |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 06:47 PM Response to Reply #114 |
115. To CNN? What do they owe to a slimy corporation like CNN? |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 06:52 PM Response to Reply #115 |
117. Fax a copy to NPR, Pravda, or Janes Wire |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 06:58 PM Response to Reply #117 |
118. "You know chavez will still be blathering in the press." The way he did the two years Bill Clinton |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 07:07 PM Response to Reply #118 |
120. Or when he went after Harry Reid |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 07:12 PM Response to Reply #120 |
121. Gets lots of press? Or is it like they're hanging all over him like a flock of buzzards, |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 10:09 PM Response to Reply #114 |
131. Deleted message |
BornagainDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 10:06 PM Response to Reply #110 |
130. What's so farfetched? Shit, Chavez nailed Uribe's boys for trying to kill him. |
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ohio2007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 09:38 AM Response to Original message |
92. Chavez is going to cut off oil to the US if the vote doesn't go as planned |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 11:02 AM Response to Original message |
94. OK, where is the fucking memo already? |
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pescao (716 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 11:33 AM Response to Reply #94 |
96. then why hasn't the CIA denied it? n/t |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 05:00 PM Response to Reply #96 |
103. They have denied it, so now we know it must be true. |
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pescao (716 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 10:27 PM Response to Reply #103 |
122. "never believe anything... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 01:08 AM Response to Reply #122 |
124. Precisamente. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 09:47 AM Response to Reply #96 |
128. That would make it look like there was something to the story |
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maddezmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 11:39 AM Response to Reply #94 |
97. Larry Johnson's take on it : Mental Midget Bullshit |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 11:45 AM Response to Reply #97 |
98. It's good to remind oneself that although he was great in defending Valerie Plame, his loyalties |
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maddezmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 11:49 AM Response to Reply #98 |
99. while I agree with your premise, there are propagandists on both sides |
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paulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 02:52 PM Response to Reply #98 |
100. OTOH, being former CIA, maybe he actually knows somehing |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 05:03 PM Response to Reply #97 |
105. The problem is that the author who broke the story is a rock solid |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 05:57 PM Response to Reply #105 |
108. So has potentially risked his life, but can get a freaking xerox |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 04:24 PM Response to Original message |
101. Sending good thoughts to pescao for Sunday. Hope you'll have good weather, and a good crowd. n/t |
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pescao (716 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 10:32 PM Response to Reply #101 |
123. thanks lots judi, will report back later |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 01:11 AM Response to Reply #123 |
125. Have a great time! |
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pescao (716 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 12:15 AM Response to Reply #125 |
127. thanks, it went great |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 04:22 AM Response to Original message |
126. Here's a time zone converter for DU'ers who want to know what time it is in Caracas, |
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ohio2007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 06:57 PM Response to Original message |
129. Referendum failed, when do the evictions start ? |
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