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chknltl
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Wed Jun-11-08 02:13 PM Original message |
Kucinich referendum to impeach passes to the judiciary. |
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Solly Mack
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Wed Jun-11-08 02:14 PM Response to Original message |
1. Where it will languish and die? |
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ClassWarrior
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Wed Jun-11-08 02:16 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Almost certainly -- IF we don't bother to make a two-minute phone call. |
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mdmc
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Wed Jun-11-08 02:21 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. Probably |
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DutchLiberal
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Wed Jun-11-08 05:11 PM Response to Reply #5 |
90. I bet no one will ever be held accountable. |
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darue
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Wed Jun-11-08 06:26 PM Response to Reply #5 |
116. like hell it will. CALL THEM NOW n/t |
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L. Coyote
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Wed Jun-11-08 04:22 PM Response to Reply #1 |
67. Yes, just like Nixon's impeachment for far less serious offenses!! |
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HiddenCSLib
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Wed Jun-11-08 09:08 PM Response to Reply #67 |
151. Nixon was not impeached |
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Paranoid Pessimist
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Wed Jun-11-08 09:49 PM Response to Reply #151 |
160. He resigned because impeachment had been voted for so as to avoid a trial n/t |
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RoyGBiv
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Wed Jun-11-08 11:54 PM Response to Reply #160 |
165. More precisely ... |
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tavalon
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Wed Jun-11-08 06:12 PM Response to Reply #1 |
108. Yes, but die slowly |
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katty
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Wed Jun-11-08 07:07 PM Response to Reply #1 |
129. yup, exactly...still glad he did it |
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Prophet 451
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Wed Jun-11-08 09:07 PM Response to Reply #1 |
150. Yep, but... |
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jus_the_facts
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Wed Jun-11-08 02:16 PM Response to Original message |
2. at least it got on gov't record....regardless of the outcome... |
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ejbr
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Wed Jun-11-08 03:20 PM Response to Reply #2 |
27. Amen to that! |
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bean fidhleir
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Wed Jun-11-08 02:19 PM Response to Original message |
4. We need to know who voted to sink it. Bet they're the usual suspects. (nt) |
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frogcycle
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Wed Jun-11-08 02:27 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. 235 dems, 199 pugs |
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mcg
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Wed Jun-11-08 03:26 PM Response to Reply #8 |
35. 24 republicans vote aye, 166 pugs vote nay, 0 dems voted nay, |
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kay1864
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Wed Jun-11-08 04:03 PM Response to Reply #35 |
56. Details at post #36 below |
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benny05
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Wed Jun-11-08 05:48 PM Response to Reply #56 |
102. My Rethug rep vfoted aye |
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Patchuli
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Thu Jun-12-08 10:11 AM Response to Reply #56 |
174. How about if my Blue Dog voted Yea! |
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annabanana
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Wed Jun-11-08 04:23 PM Response to Reply #35 |
68. huh... Peter Fucking King voted "Aye". . . He must be feeling some |
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Divine Discontent
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Wed Jun-11-08 04:25 PM Response to Reply #68 |
70. he probably thinks it will hurt the dems |
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npincus
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Wed Jun-11-08 06:41 PM Response to Reply #68 |
120. no SHIT!!! |
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whistle
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Wed Jun-11-08 08:04 PM Response to Reply #35 |
141. Their leader can do no wrong even when his actions are criminal |
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frickaline
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Wed Jun-11-08 02:22 PM Response to Original message |
6. this will never work, but it is nice that at least someone is trying. |
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FightingIrish
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Wed Jun-11-08 02:24 PM Response to Original message |
7. If it dies there so will some careers. |
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tavalon
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Wed Jun-11-08 06:15 PM Response to Reply #7 |
111. No, they do not |
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Freddie Stubbs
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Wed Jun-11-08 06:41 PM Response to Reply #7 |
121. How many careers died because of the Cheney impeachment bill being stuck in committee? |
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chknltl
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Wed Jun-11-08 02:31 PM Response to Original message |
9. To me these 2 items are important: |
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But....
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Wed Jun-11-08 03:32 PM Response to Reply #9 |
43. Hell yes. |
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Voice for Peace
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Wed Jun-11-08 04:05 PM Response to Reply #9 |
58. well said, thanks. |
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JBShakes
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Wed Jun-11-08 02:33 PM Response to Original message |
10. Isn't "on to the judiciary"... |
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SergeyDovlatov
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Wed Jun-11-08 03:10 PM Response to Reply #10 |
21. That is how Nixon and Clinton were impeached by the house |
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jimlup
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Wed Jun-11-08 03:37 PM Response to Reply #21 |
47. not important but... |
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L. Coyote
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Wed Jun-11-08 04:27 PM Response to Reply #47 |
73. First, a few Republicans turned against "their" President, then a few more, then .... |
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Freddie Stubbs
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Wed Jun-11-08 06:42 PM Response to Reply #21 |
122. It is also how Cheney wasn't impeached |
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Iggo
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Wed Jun-11-08 03:24 PM Response to Reply #10 |
33. Der Chimpster is moving to Paraguay. |
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JPZenger
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Wed Jun-11-08 03:31 PM Response to Reply #33 |
42. That is a great story, but is just a rumor |
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Iggo
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Wed Jun-11-08 04:19 PM Response to Reply #42 |
65. Reliable confirmation... |
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jaybeat
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Wed Jun-11-08 05:51 PM Response to Reply #42 |
104. Actually, Bush Jr., Bush Sr. and Rev. Moon have adjacent mega-parcels |
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BearSquirrel2
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Wed Jun-11-08 06:15 PM Response to Reply #42 |
110. That's because they're going to Dubai ... |
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Wizard777
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Wed Jun-11-08 09:54 PM Response to Reply #42 |
161. Ask Noriega how well having your own country works on that front. |
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John Q. Citizen
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Wed Jun-11-08 03:31 PM Response to Reply #10 |
40. Depends. Wexler is on the Judiciary and he's a co-sponsor. |
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Freddie Stubbs
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Wed Jun-11-08 06:43 PM Response to Reply #40 |
123. He is also a cosponsor of the Cheney impeachment bill. How has that worked out? |
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John Q. Citizen
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Wed Jun-11-08 07:23 PM Response to Reply #123 |
131. At least as well as the time table for withdrawl, the CHIP bill, the global warming bill, |
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DrZeeLit
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Wed Jun-11-08 04:01 PM Response to Reply #10 |
55. I thought the US declined to be involved in Hague tribunals. Might someone illuminate? |
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Iggo
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Wed Jun-11-08 04:20 PM Response to Reply #55 |
66. I bet the Nazis... |
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DrZeeLit
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Wed Jun-11-08 04:31 PM Response to Reply #66 |
76. Oh, here's article re: Bush told the UN that the US would ignore the International Criminal Court. |
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L. Coyote
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Wed Jun-11-08 04:31 PM Response to Reply #55 |
75. That's like saying the Nazis decided not to participate in the Nuremberg trials ... |
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DrZeeLit
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Wed Jun-11-08 04:34 PM Response to Reply #75 |
78. The article I posted (above) says Clinton agreed. Bush opted out. |
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DutchLiberal
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Wed Jun-11-08 05:16 PM Response to Reply #55 |
91. Yes, and what followed is the 'The Hague Invasion Act'... |
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tavalon
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Wed Jun-11-08 06:18 PM Response to Reply #10 |
114. Yep, |
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Imagevision
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Thu Jun-12-08 11:58 PM Response to Reply #114 |
185. K&R! |
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ComtesseDeSpair
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Wed Jun-11-08 02:38 PM Response to Original message |
11. That Many? |
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Zachstar
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Wed Jun-11-08 02:58 PM Response to Original message |
12. This is good news. |
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tavalon
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Wed Jun-11-08 06:22 PM Response to Reply #12 |
115. Yeah! I saw it on the front of all the newspapers and on all the 24 hour networks! |
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Imagevision
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Wed Jun-11-08 07:51 PM Response to Reply #12 |
137. K&R! |
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Dangerously Amused
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Wed Jun-11-08 03:01 PM Response to Original message |
13. Hoping against hope for impeachment... |
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eagleswing963
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Wed Jun-11-08 03:07 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. He'll never be impeached!! |
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frog92969
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Wed Jun-11-08 03:06 PM Response to Original message |
14. Official vote count here- |
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Beaverhausen
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Wed Jun-11-08 03:08 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. thanks. My rep voted AYE |
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TBF
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Wed Jun-11-08 03:14 PM Response to Reply #17 |
24. Mine did as well - thank you Nick Lawson :) He is such an improvement over Tom Delay. |
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But....
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Wed Jun-11-08 03:36 PM Response to Reply #24 |
45. My voted no... |
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NYC Liberal
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Wed Jun-11-08 03:16 PM Response to Reply #17 |
25. So did mine! |
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martymar64
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Wed Jun-11-08 05:49 PM Response to Reply #17 |
103. Mine too! |
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eagleswing963
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Wed Jun-11-08 03:09 PM Response to Reply #14 |
18. I mean he will not get impeached!! |
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Dr.Phool
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Wed Jun-11-08 03:22 PM Response to Reply #18 |
31. He can get impeached. Maybe not CONVICTED. |
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galaxy21
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Wed Jun-11-08 03:13 PM Response to Reply #14 |
23. ron paul voted yes which I thought was interesting |
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frog92969
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Wed Jun-11-08 03:17 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. My repug voted yes as well |
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pokercat999
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Wed Jun-11-08 04:11 PM Response to Reply #23 |
61. Ron Paul's base should be Conservative/libertarian if they |
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kay1864
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Wed Jun-11-08 03:26 PM Response to Reply #14 |
36. Thanks! Here's the "out of the norm" results: |
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NM Independent
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Wed Jun-11-08 05:38 PM Response to Reply #36 |
98. HOLY HELL!!! |
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Wed Jun-11-08 06:14 PM Response to Reply #98 |
109. WTF!?!?!? Scraping my jaw up off the Saltillo, too. We're having wild winds... |
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frog92969
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Wed Jun-11-08 06:18 PM Response to Reply #36 |
113. self delete |
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chknltl
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Wed Jun-11-08 06:26 PM Response to Reply #36 |
117. Dave Reichert, R. Wa. |
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Matteon
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Wed Jun-11-08 07:57 PM Response to Reply #36 |
139. I'm legitemately impressed |
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Wed Jun-11-08 08:13 PM Response to Reply #139 |
143. Anybody who voted against impeachment would be looking |
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Wed Jun-11-08 08:14 PM Response to Reply #36 |
144. So Pelosi, as speaker, doesn't vote? |
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kay1864
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Wed Jun-11-08 09:46 PM Response to Reply #144 |
157. Found this on wikipedia: |
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Wed Jun-11-08 09:39 PM Response to Reply #36 |
154. bobby rush did not vote |
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Pab Sungenis
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Thu Jun-12-08 08:34 AM Response to Reply #36 |
172. Fuck! LoBiondo? |
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TrogL
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Wed Jun-11-08 04:32 PM Response to Reply #14 |
77. Why do they list religion on peoples bio's? |
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frog92969
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Wed Jun-11-08 04:48 PM Response to Reply #77 |
82. It's like a chronic illness run rampant through our ruling class |
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Wed Jun-11-08 05:28 PM Response to Reply #14 |
93. OH MY GOD! Not a single Democratic crossover! |
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Wed Jun-11-08 07:01 PM Response to Reply #14 |
127. Paul Hodes and Carol Shea-Porter |
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Wed Jun-11-08 09:05 PM Response to Reply #14 |
149. My Congressman John Lewis voted Aye? |
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Wed Jun-11-08 10:12 PM Response to Reply #14 |
162. Heather Wilson NM voted AYE!? |
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SergeyDovlatov
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Wed Jun-11-08 03:07 PM Response to Original message |
16. This is how impeachment moves forward |
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eagleswing963
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Wed Jun-11-08 03:12 PM Response to Reply #16 |
22. I'm surprised |
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Imalittleteapot
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Wed Jun-11-08 03:10 PM Response to Original message |
19. Accountability? Maybe. Legacy? Absolutely. |
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NorthCarolina
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Wed Jun-11-08 03:10 PM Response to Original message |
20. Kucinich - America's Congressman |
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Wed Jun-11-08 03:22 PM Response to Reply #20 |
32. Last night when I saw him on CSPAN |
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NorthCarolina
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Wed Jun-11-08 04:09 PM Response to Reply #32 |
59. The House would be way more "ethical" if Kucinich were speaker |
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Wed Jun-11-08 05:05 PM Response to Reply #59 |
87. For sure. |
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Wed Jun-11-08 03:21 PM Response to Original message |
28. Did You Check Out Florida's Vote??? |
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LiberalArkie
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Wed Jun-11-08 03:22 PM Response to Original message |
29. Rollcall |
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Wed Jun-11-08 03:29 PM Response to Reply #29 |
38. There are many moderate Dems on the aye list. nt |
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Wed Jun-11-08 04:26 PM Response to Reply #38 |
72. I was completely shocked to see Rep Jim Marshall (GA) in the AYE list... |
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Wed Jun-11-08 08:34 PM Response to Reply #29 |
146. OMG, my useless congresswoman actually voted in favor. |
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Wed Jun-11-08 03:22 PM Response to Original message |
30. Not ONE Dem Against - John Conyers voted FOR..... |
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Wed Jun-11-08 03:26 PM Response to Reply #30 |
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Wed Jun-11-08 03:28 PM Response to Original message |
37. David Dreier (R, CA) voted "aye." |
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Irishonly
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Wed Jun-11-08 04:53 PM Response to Reply #37 |
85. I know |
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Wed Jun-11-08 05:18 PM Response to Reply #85 |
92. He was my rep... |
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Wed Jun-11-08 07:47 PM Response to Reply #37 |
136. Did hell freeze over?! |
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Wed Jun-11-08 03:29 PM Response to Original message |
39. My representative, Ralph Hall |
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Wed Jun-11-08 03:31 PM Response to Original message |
41. How fitting Reps from OH and FL start impeachment |
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Wed Jun-11-08 03:34 PM Response to Original message |
44. Not surprisingly, my rep, Charlie Dent, voted no. |
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Wed Jun-11-08 10:40 PM Response to Reply #44 |
163. Mine too... |
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Mr_Jefferson_24
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Wed Jun-11-08 03:36 PM Response to Original message |
46. K&R |
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Liberty Belle
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Wed Jun-11-08 03:41 PM Response to Original message |
48. Wow, even Susan Davis voted yes! |
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Wed Jun-11-08 03:54 PM Response to Reply #48 |
50. Reichert, repub from my district |
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Wed Jun-11-08 05:10 PM Response to Reply #50 |
89. I was stunned he voted aye. |
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Straight Shooter
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Wed Jun-11-08 03:48 PM Response to Original message |
49. Hooray for Oregon! Except for Worthless Walden, of course. |
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knixphan
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Wed Jun-11-08 03:55 PM Response to Original message |
51. Thanks Jane Harman! |
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Wed Jun-11-08 03:57 PM Response to Original message |
52. Oh, my goodness, |
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Wed Jun-11-08 04:16 PM Response to Reply #52 |
62. I didn't even have to call! |
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Wed Jun-11-08 04:00 PM Response to Original message |
53. So most Dems voted Aye. How does that compare to when the Cheney articles... |
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Brotherjohn
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Wed Jun-11-08 04:16 PM Response to Reply #53 |
63. I see now. That was 218 ayes, 194 nays, along party lines. Progress I guess. |
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choie
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Wed Jun-11-08 04:01 PM Response to Original message |
54. and where the hell is Pelosi? |
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frog92969
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Wed Jun-11-08 04:17 PM Response to Reply #54 |
64. Maybe she took our advice |
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Manifestor_of_Light
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Wed Jun-11-08 04:05 PM Response to Original message |
57. I just called my Repuke slimeball. |
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Wed Jun-11-08 04:11 PM Response to Original message |
60. Heather Wilson of NM voted yes! I guess even she is sick of the GOP antics! |
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MichellesBFF
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Wed Jun-11-08 04:43 PM Response to Reply #60 |
79. My Dem didn't even vote! |
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L. Coyote
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Wed Jun-11-08 04:46 PM Response to Reply #60 |
80. Actually, she participated in the crimes!! She pressured Iglesias. |
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Lost4words
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Thu Jun-12-08 10:23 AM Response to Reply #80 |
175. Yes she did lose the primary for Domencie's seat! |
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Wed Jun-11-08 04:57 PM Response to Reply #60 |
86. She is on the way out so maybe |
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Lost4words
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Thu Jun-12-08 10:25 AM Response to Reply #86 |
176. Isnt that the truth!! n/t |
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Zorra
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Wed Jun-11-08 04:23 PM Response to Original message |
69. Awesome to see our elected Democrats united in doing he right thing. |
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renate
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Wed Jun-11-08 04:26 PM Response to Original message |
71. CNN is referring to the judiciary as "legislative no-man's land" |
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Barack_America
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Wed Jun-11-08 05:30 PM Response to Reply #71 |
94. OTOH, Conyers wants impeachment bad. |
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Thu Jun-12-08 02:08 AM Response to Reply #71 |
170. Yes, it would seem to me that if you want impeachment you should've voted nay |
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mdmc
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Thu Jun-12-08 11:07 PM Response to Reply #170 |
184. allow me to try to explain miss |
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Wed Jun-11-08 04:27 PM Response to Original message |
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L. Coyote
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Wed Jun-11-08 04:47 PM Response to Reply #74 |
81. Hello - Goodbye! |
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dave123williams
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Wed Jun-11-08 04:49 PM Response to Original message |
83. You need 50% of a full House Vote to refer the matter to trial in the Senate. |
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Wed Jun-11-08 05:39 PM Response to Reply #83 |
99. but we just got more than 50% didn't we? And as soon as you open o[up the cans of worms, more |
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dave123williams
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Wed Jun-11-08 05:54 PM Response to Reply #99 |
105. Ok, a primer on how they kill motions like this one. |
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Freddie Stubbs
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Wed Jun-11-08 07:26 PM Response to Reply #105 |
133. It is now up to John Conyers. He alone can decide if this gets a hearing |
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Amonester
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Wed Jun-11-08 08:36 PM Response to Reply #105 |
147. OTOH, if she was faithful to her Oath of Office, she could become... |
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Diane R
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Wed Jun-11-08 04:50 PM Response to Original message |
84. Wow. Dave Reichert (R) Washington voted 'Aye'. He's in a tough reelection race. |
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Wed Jun-11-08 05:08 PM Response to Reply #84 |
88. Heck I'm amazed Larsen voted yes |
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Wed Jun-11-08 05:33 PM Response to Reply #88 |
96. I'm glad Rep. Paul voted for it |
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Thu Jun-12-08 12:00 AM Response to Reply #88 |
166. I'm on his email list since 04 - I started putting them all in the spam bin unread |
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Thu Jun-12-08 08:32 AM Response to Reply #166 |
171. Your feelings are correct |
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Thu Jun-12-08 09:28 AM Response to Reply #171 |
173. nah i grew up in the bay area.... from Seattle... in Kansas now |
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Wed Jun-11-08 06:10 PM Response to Reply #84 |
107. I just noticed that! I live in Reichert's district, which up until now was considered as safe as |
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Wed Jun-11-08 09:27 PM Response to Reply #107 |
153. Darcy Burner will have another go at Reichert |
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Wed Jun-11-08 05:32 PM Response to Original message |
95. GOOD! n/t |
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Wed Jun-11-08 05:35 PM Response to Original message |
97. can you explain what they yes and no votes mean? i.e. were they voting |
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Wed Jun-11-08 09:46 PM Response to Reply #97 |
158. Sure. The votes were used to determine if the Impeachment resolution... |
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Thu Jun-12-08 10:32 AM Response to Reply #158 |
177. thank-you muchly! |
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Wed Jun-11-08 05:40 PM Response to Original message |
100. ENTHUSIASTIC K/R! Have they finally found their spines?! n/t |
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Wed Jun-11-08 05:41 PM Response to Original message |
101. I hate to disappoint you, but "sending the bill to committee" is a tactic... |
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Wed Jun-11-08 06:39 PM Response to Reply #101 |
119. But isn't that what happened to the Cheney impeachment bill? |
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Wed Jun-11-08 06:47 PM Response to Reply #119 |
125. I really don't know about that... |
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Wed Jun-11-08 05:56 PM Response to Original message |
106. Paraplegic House begins to feel below the waste again ...excellent. |
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Wed Jun-11-08 07:05 PM Response to Reply #106 |
128. You mean "waist" |
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Wed Jun-11-08 06:15 PM Response to Original message |
112. Woohoo! |
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Wed Jun-11-08 06:38 PM Response to Original message |
118. dare I say, "Holy shit"? |
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Wed Jun-11-08 06:45 PM Response to Original message |
124. 89% say yes to impeachment |
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Wed Jun-11-08 06:48 PM Response to Original message |
126. This is a good thing |
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Wed Jun-11-08 07:09 PM Response to Original message |
130. doesn't sound good :( |
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Wed Jun-11-08 07:44 PM Response to Reply #130 |
135. Jesus. Come on, guys, it's CNN. How do you THINK they'd report it? |
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Wed Jun-11-08 08:18 PM Response to Reply #135 |
145. God, I know. I never watch CNN. |
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Wed Jun-11-08 07:25 PM Response to Original message |
132. Apply pressure. |
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Wed Jun-11-08 07:42 PM Response to Original message |
134. It's GREAT to live in New England...unanimous AYE! |
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Wed Jun-11-08 09:41 PM Response to Reply #134 |
155. Good for Chris! |
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Wed Jun-11-08 07:56 PM Response to Original message |
138. Terrific!!!! Thanks Dennis...hurdle #1 jumped |
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Wed Jun-11-08 07:59 PM Response to Original message |
140. hell must have froze over |
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Wed Jun-11-08 08:10 PM Response to Original message |
142. So now is the Judiciary just going to be in Collusion with Bush |
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Wed Jun-11-08 08:51 PM Response to Original message |
148. ALL NC Dems voted 'aye', joined by 1 Repub! |
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Wed Jun-11-08 09:15 PM Response to Original message |
152. 251 NAYS to Pelosi's table! |
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Wed Jun-11-08 09:45 PM Response to Original message |
156. Uhm, is it POSSIBLE that 'they're' afraid of the Power of the People? |
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Wed Jun-11-08 09:47 PM Response to Original message |
159. No Matter What Happens |
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Wed Jun-11-08 11:11 PM Response to Original message |
164. It is being wave there to die. |
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Thu Jun-12-08 12:04 AM Response to Reply #164 |
167. We need a change in Washington |
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Thu Jun-12-08 01:04 AM Response to Original message |
168. Kucinich says GRRRRR! |
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Thu Jun-12-08 01:39 PM Response to Reply #168 |
180. Don't laugh but big sized dogs like yours in the picture are afraid |
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Thu Jun-12-08 01:50 AM Response to Original message |
169. kr |
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Thu Jun-12-08 01:20 PM Response to Original message |
178. Wow that's good news even if it goes nowhere! n/t |
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Thu Jun-12-08 01:29 PM Response to Original message |
179. The membership of the Judiciary Committee |
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Thu Jun-12-08 01:49 PM Response to Reply #179 |
181. THANK YOU for adding this. Fellow DUers PLEASE take note. |
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Thu Jun-12-08 03:45 PM Response to Original message |
182. I must have missed a turn somewhere. |
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Thu Jun-12-08 06:00 PM Response to Reply #182 |
183. 'Privileging a bill'? |
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Fri Jun-20-08 02:00 PM Response to Original message |
186. If you want to read the 35 articles of impeachment... |
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Fri Jun-20-08 02:47 PM Response to Original message |
187. The weren't voting for or against the impeachment; they were only voting to move it to a committee |
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