Dole attacks Democrat with second 'Godless' ad

[DuaneBidoux]

Source: The Hill

Sen. Elizabeth Dole (R-N.C.) has released a second "Godless Americans" ad attacking Democrat Kay Hagan in what increasingly looks like the nastiest battle of the cycle.

The new ad appears to take a step back from Dole's earlier controversial ad this week that suggested Hagan, who is ahead in polls, is an atheist.





Read more: http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/dole-attacks-democrat-with-second-godless-ad-2008-10-31.html

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Have Democrats in recent memory ever stooped even close to this low?

[yellowcanine]

1. I guess her polls aren't dropping fast enough to suit her. Is this Charlie Black's doing?

It sure looks that way.

[CBHagman]

11. YouTube is full of discussion of this.

Republicans and various others are blasting Dole for this, or at least mocking her. What kind of a campaign are you running when Ed-freaking-Rollins is disparaging you?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3vYzZr80aI


Clip of the earlier ad, with Young Turks' commentary:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzhUOfgxg2c

[anitar1]

2. Maybe the voters will get rid of the old bag. n/t

[Flagg]

3. America ain't a fucking theocracy.

Get that through your thick skulls, you fucking brownshirts.

[kestrel91316]

4. "Godless"........hmmm, isn't Kay Hagan "The Church Lady", roflmao??

[Zorra]

5. Yep, and she's getting sued for slander and libel for it.

I hope Kay Hagan takes her for millions.

[Doctor_J]

6. The first ad like this sent her poll numbers sinking

:wtf:

[truthisfreedom]

7. They have no idea what they're doing... desperate mania.

They don't study the psychology of their ads. They trust their own guts, and their own guts are rotten to the core.

[JimboBillyBubbaBob]

18. Own Guts

There must be an ample supply of E-coli in her gut. Something stinks. I smell it up here in Virginia.

[thereismore]

8. Just keep on digging! nt

[av8rdave]

9. All the rethugs are following the Rove playbook

and it's not working!

[sinkingfeeling]

10. So now atheists aren't allowed to participate in fundraisers, campaigns, or to express

their views? Here, I thought we lived in America.

[deepthought42]

12. Don't you listen to G. H. W. bush?

We're not Americans... :banghead:

[Danger Mouse]

20. Begone, heathen! Back to the fiery pit that spawned yoU!

[deepthought42]

26. Ok.

At least there it's WARM! :P

:evilgrin:

[Owl]

39. Hey, that's where I'm going too; with all my friends!

[deepthought42]

40. the more the merrier! n/t

[rosesaylavee]

13. Hell no - tho they are not as bad as

those Muslims because they can still be saved, but atheists are still bad.
:sarcasm:

[jonnyblitz]

14. and to be accused of atheism is to be slandered according to

this asshole Democratic who is suing Dole. she is as bad as McCain when he implied that to be Arab is bad and Obama isn't one of those, "he is a good family man".

[Merlot]

35. Well, if you ARE a christian, and you are called an atheist

then it is a lie. Slander is a lie. She has every right to sue.

If someone called an athiest a xtian, they could also say it's slander.

[icnorth]

38. Sorry not even close.

This attack ad was pure deception by Dole with a voice over at the end of the ad that intimated it was Hagan herself saying "there is no God". This attack is diametrically opposed to Hagan's own belief system which Dole was well aware of and was by design, an attempt to destroy her standing within the Christian community. Kay Hagan's response is NOT an attack on or a put down of the atheist community.

[Zhade]

45. That such an attack would destroy her standing is a sad commentary on many christians.

NT!

[icnorth]

47. Absolutely. n/t

[jobycom]

In Texas, at least, we are forbidden from holding public office.

Other states, too, I've heard.

[sinkingfeeling]

19. How can it be that no Texan has challenged that? It's against the US Constitution!

[DuaneBidoux]

32. Not true legally. However, if you announce it it might as was well be illegal.

[jobycom]

34. It is forbidden by the Texas Constitution for an atheist to hold public office.

[Zhade]

46. Yes, it is factually true. Look again.

NT!

[DuaneBidoux]

53. Well can I tell that my god is the Flying Spaghetti Monster?

What's it say about Jews? What's it say about non-Christian gods?

[KamaAina]

15. She's gotta be doing it for Jesse Helms' memory

Up to now, Helms' "white hands crumpling up a job application" ad -- run while Helms (R-KKK) was running against then-Charlotte mayor Harvey Gantt, an African American -- has stood as the sleaziest political ad in NC -- or, perhaps, American -- political history. Sen. Dole (R-Now You Know Why Bob Needs Viagra) is giving her all in a herculean effort to "top" it. :eyes:

edit: spelling

[Blue_Tires]

41. +1

at the age of 14, the 1990 N.C. Senate race was the first one i ever followed closely... that was an incredibly underhanded and dirty race...and even despite all that, the polls had Gantt with a slight lead with a couple of days to go...

[Vinca]

16. "If Godless Americans threw a party in your honor, would you go?"

That's an easy question to answer. If you're a Republican and there's money involved, you'll be there.

[MannyGoldstein]

17. Yeah! Let's Hear It For Us Godless Bostonian!*

Massachusetts has the lowest divorce rate and the best primary school standardized test results in the nation, as well as low rates of murder, poverty, and want of health care. How fucking godless of us! Whooo boy, Jesus must be really pissed at us.

*Well, technically I'm a Newtonian, but I live a block from the border...

[Danger Mouse]

21. Good. Every time she does this shit, she hurts herself.

[Faygo Kid]

22. Kay Godless? No. But Liddy's Shameless.

She can kiss her seat goodbye.

And I don't just mean her Senate seat.

[Raine]

23. Dispicable I actually would've expected

better from Liddy. :mad:

[dcindian]

24. People like this won't be happy until they are tossing others into ovens

Sick

[Divine Discontent]

25. just when you think she couldn't be that inhuman, she proves she is from another planet

what a desperate, ignorant, bimbo "Liddy" Dole is - what an old washed up piece of heathen false-religion trash she has become as a tool of the right wing!

She doesn't embarrass my faith, she just confirms she doesn't really take faith in it herself.

[Zhade]

28. Calling someone godless is inhuman? When did it become inhuman to be godless, hmmm?

NT!

[depakid]

37. Spend some time in North Carolina

[norepubsin08]

27. As a christian I apologize for this kind of stuff

I belong to a liberal mainline Protestant church. Perhaps we were too lax as a congregation to fight this kind of an attitude by our fundamentalist Christian brothers and sisters. Maybe we were blinded to the fact that Christians can and will act in the most uncharitable manner. Please know that not all churches are like that. In fact our congregation is almost like a defacto Democratic Party staging ground right about now. We are horrified that some one who we share the same faith with, would treat another is such a fashion. While our Christian training and beliefs may guide how we individually vote or govern if ever elected to an office...we would never render such a litmus test to any candidate.
Where in the constitution does it say that church attendance or Christian belief is a requirement to hold office?

[enuegii]

29. I believe it does say that...

no religious test shall be required for those seeking public office. Some christians (not all) tend to sort of skip over that part of the Constitution.

[Poseidan]

30. Dole should go back to selling bananas

Although, atheists are kind of silly. Of course there's a God. Religions give God a bad name, and distort your understanding of God. But, God is without question real. I can prove it to you in just a few sentences.

What is God? Something all-powerful, with absolute laws and an authority which cannot be challenged. Now what is that a description of? I'll give you a clue, it's everything and nothing, surrounding you and everything else at all times, and is part of everything you have ever known...

Give up? It's the Universe. Which actually makes scientists the real theologians.

[Zhade]

31. If that's your definition, then it's a meaningless one.

Atheists are not silly for not accepting something for which there is no evidence - the universe isn't a god, and science isn't a religion.

[enigmatic]

33. Liddy Dole is a piece of shit

She should be ashamed for putting those attack ads out.

[NoodleyAppendage]

36. Dole is a DEMON WHORE.

Now it makes sense that her face looks like the Egyptian god Set.

[w4rma]

42. Dole's campaign is full of whackos. (nt)

[young_at_heart]

43. I saw this ad last night----it was extremely repulsive!

I don't see how any decent North Carolinian could vote for her after this.

[riverdeep]

44. Parts of this campaign have become like that Seinfeld episode.

The one where they deny being gay, but qualify with "not that there's anything wrong with that". Our side is forced to point out that Obama is not a Mulsim or an A-rab because 1)it's not true and 2)a large segment of the public won't vote either one into the Presidency, hence the charge in the first place. But then we need to point out "not that there's anything wrong with that".

Calling someone an atheist shouldn't be an insult, but apparently it is. Kay Hagan is NOT an atheist, not that there's anything wrong with that.

[TankLV]

48. Common, now, everybody sing: MY GOD'S BETTER'N YOUR GOD!

My god's better'n yours...

My god's better cause my God's...

[RedCloud]

49. Sort of hoping lightning strikes...

Random event, but it would discourage more such crap.

[panzerfaust]

50. And what is WRONG with being Godless ??

Bush-1 had the answer to that:

"... I don't know that atheists should be considered as citizens, nor should they be considered patriots. This is one nation under God."

Very few people accept any g(G)od(s) but their own - this makes most people non-believers in most gods.

[and-justice-for-all]

51. What particular reason is it bad to be an Atheist??

Sound reason and logic guide us, whereas invisible friends and bronze age desert dogma do not.

[and-justice-for-all]

52. I just sent Dole a 'fuck you' email

Your new ad "Godless Americans" which tries to ridicule Kay Hagen with the George Bush Senior's BS from 1987

"Bush: No, I don't know that atheists should be considered as citizens, nor should they be considered patriots. This is one nation under God."

Republican(t)s are the least patriotic people on the planet, the most selfish, rudest, coldest people alive. The best possible Government is one without Republican(t)s in it.

I can not say that Kay is an Atheist, but it sure would be great and OK if she was. While you use bronze age desert dogma to base your judgment upon; she on the other hand would use sound logic and reason.

I am looking forward to you losing your seat; intolerance and bigotry has no place in our Government.

[Odin2005]

54. I'm sick of us "godless" Atheists being implied to be evil.

:puke:

[Christa]

55. We are about 10% of the population

Don't write us off, Libby :rofl:

:popcorn:

[MineralMan]

56. Did Dole Hire Free Republic to Design Her Ads?

These were the worst ads I've seen. Atheists are Americans, too, for pete's sake! May Dole live a long time to regret this.