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sabra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 01:09 PM Original message |
UK: Intelligence sharing with the US threatened |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 01:15 PM Response to Original message |
1. This is NOT good. Highly-classified stuff often reads: "US/UK eyes only." |
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dipsydoodle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 01:43 PM Response to Original message |
2. Oh ! Threats now is it. |
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Cass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-30-09 04:48 AM Response to Reply #2 |
33. Cankles? nt |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-30-09 06:44 PM Response to Reply #2 |
67. "Change" |
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frylock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 02:02 PM Response to Original message |
3. so we're going to jeopardize our own "security" out of spite.. |
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The Stranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 02:06 PM Response to Original message |
4. The Battle of Britain all over again. |
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HiyaEmerald Eyes (106 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-30-09 12:38 AM Response to Original message |
5. Clinton moved to halt disclosure of CIA torture evidence, court told |
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xultar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-30-09 12:39 AM Response to Reply #5 |
6. People will hate her for this. But doing her job would suck if those images had been |
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ThomCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-30-09 12:39 AM Response to Reply #6 |
7. It doesn't matter if her job would suck. |
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xultar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-30-09 12:39 AM Response to Reply #7 |
10. You are right. We're trying to mend fences...and how Obama would look |
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shadowknows69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-30-09 12:39 AM Response to Reply #10 |
17. Good, maybe he shouldn't be. |
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Alamuti Lotus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-30-09 01:08 AM Response to Reply #10 |
30. Sorry, but don't expect anything other than 'Protect Status Quo' on the docket |
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irislake (967 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-30-09 12:39 AM Response to Reply #7 |
24. Here's an outside perspective |
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Ghost Dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-30-09 04:50 AM Response to Reply #24 |
34. Yes. It is about preventing the average US citizen knowing |
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Larry Ogg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-30-09 12:32 PM Response to Reply #24 |
45. Americans wanted a change of direction… |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-30-09 02:31 PM Response to Reply #24 |
59. I would never dream of joining a Canadian board to dump on Canada. |
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Eric J in MN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-30-09 12:39 AM Response to Reply #6 |
8. "It consists of a seven-paragraph summary of what the CIA knew," |
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xultar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-30-09 12:39 AM Response to Reply #8 |
9. You are correct. I apologize but it still would have made mending fences with |
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Downwinder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-30-09 12:39 AM Response to Reply #9 |
13. Change -- More open and transparent? n/t |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-30-09 02:04 PM Response to Reply #9 |
48. And you know that how? " Other countries" already know more about what we do abroad than |
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The Stranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-30-09 12:39 AM Response to Reply #6 |
11. Fuck her and fuck her job. This is much, much bigger than her. |
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xultar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-30-09 12:39 AM Response to Reply #11 |
14. You are right. I don't think she made the decision on her own. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-30-09 02:05 PM Response to Reply #14 |
49. How does not prosecuting Bushco look now? I agree that |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-30-09 02:28 PM Response to Reply #49 |
58. like Colin Powell? Like General Colin Powell who sent his fellow soldiers into a war ?? |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-30-09 02:47 PM Response to Reply #58 |
60. If Powell was guilty-and he was-how is Hillary not guilty again?. |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-30-09 02:48 PM Response to Reply #60 |
61. she is not..I am not disagreeing with you..but the real one to blame is the head of the |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-30-09 02:52 PM Response to Reply #61 |
62. Um, no. They are both the real ones to blame. If you tell me to kill someone, and I do, how |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-30-09 03:12 PM Response to Reply #62 |
65. I am not exonerating her..get that..I AM NOT EXONERATING HER!!! |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-30-09 12:51 PM Response to Reply #11 |
46. and who do you "think" gave her her marching orders what to tell the Brits? |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-30-09 02:11 PM Response to Reply #46 |
51. Yes, but please see Reply 49. Despite everyone's best efforts, this is still a free |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-30-09 02:16 PM Response to Reply #51 |
52. Scott Horton has the story posted now..read it! |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-30-09 02:17 PM Response to Reply #52 |
54. Um, I have. |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-30-09 09:28 AM Response to Reply #6 |
36. who's her boss???????? ever hear that saying... |
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grahamhgreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-30-09 11:42 AM Response to Reply #6 |
44. R U serious? |
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HiyaEmerald Eyes (106 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-30-09 12:39 AM Response to Reply #5 |
12. Jeppesen's UK unit to cooperate in CIA torture case |
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frylock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-30-09 12:39 AM Response to Reply #5 |
15. Rice moved to halt disclosure of CIA torture evidence, court told |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-30-09 12:39 AM Response to Reply #15 |
18. excellent point |
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Hell Hath No Fury (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-30-09 12:39 AM Response to Reply #15 |
21. Some of us are. |
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frylock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-30-09 12:39 AM Response to Reply #21 |
22. i'm right there with ya! |
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BunkerHill24 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-30-09 12:39 AM Response to Reply #15 |
26. Spot on! |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-30-09 02:25 PM Response to Reply #15 |
56. Exactly..the anger should go to the top of the food chain.. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-30-09 02:59 PM Response to Reply #56 |
63. You seem stuck in the primaries. Obama is not disassociating himself from this or |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-30-09 12:39 AM Response to Reply #5 |
16. Wouldn't want to allow anything that might upset 'The Family'. nt |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-30-09 12:39 AM Response to Reply #5 |
19. this government is no good anymore... |
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KansDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-30-09 12:39 AM Response to Reply #19 |
25. But what I find amazing is these folks still call the shots and still pull in the paychecks... |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-30-09 02:16 PM Response to Reply #25 |
53. Big gubbamint jobs are not about 6 figure salaries anymore. They are about the book deals and |
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cascadiance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-30-09 12:39 AM Response to Reply #5 |
20. Michael Scheurer who headed the rendition program under Clinton says it was WORSE then! |
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24601 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-30-09 12:39 AM Response to Reply #20 |
23. Well, it that's true, he shouldn't be immune either. I believe Serbia |
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Senator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-30-09 12:39 AM Response to Reply #20 |
27. Trouble is, Sheuer lies a lot. |
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cascadiance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-30-09 12:39 AM Response to Reply #27 |
28. I'm not saying Scheuer is being truthful... |
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Senator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-30-09 04:14 AM Response to Reply #28 |
32. I understand. But the real irony... |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-30-09 12:56 PM Response to Reply #27 |
47. and our "GOVERNMENT" doesn't lie much?? your point is what??? |
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Senator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-30-09 09:48 PM Response to Reply #47 |
68. This is no "lowly writer" |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-30-09 02:26 PM Response to Reply #27 |
57. The fact that one party is "worse" than the other does not exonerate anyone. |
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Senator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-30-09 10:08 PM Response to Reply #57 |
69. And "Bubba is still guilty of ..." what, exactly? |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-30-09 03:01 PM Response to Reply #20 |
64. Rendtiton may have been worse under Clinton because Clinton was not |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-30-09 12:39 AM Response to Reply #5 |
29. K&R |
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thedeanpeople (48 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-30-09 03:50 AM Response to Original message |
31. k&r |
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Ghost Dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-30-09 05:02 AM Response to Original message |
35. All law-abiding nations should cease intelligence cooperation with the US, |
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grahamhgreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-30-09 09:51 AM Response to Original message |
37. "Personally intervened' to prevent an investigation into torture...!!!??? |
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kpete (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-30-09 10:55 AM Response to Original message |
38. Clinton moved to halt disclosure of CIA torture evidence, court told |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-30-09 10:55 AM Response to Reply #38 |
39. Our leaders are obstructionists to justice. |
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Larry Ogg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-30-09 11:23 AM Response to Reply #39 |
43. Well that’s putting it nicely; it even has the affect of giving them the benefit of the doubt? |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-30-09 02:19 PM Response to Reply #39 |
55. Scott Horton Just posted that at Harpers...read it.. |
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saigon68 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-30-09 10:55 AM Response to Reply #38 |
40. Not surprising |
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onehandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-30-09 10:55 AM Response to Reply #38 |
41. Dupe. And this Guardian version was posted last night and combined with Sabra's thread. |
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NewAgeThinker (43 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-30-09 10:55 AM Response to Reply #38 |
42. It's unfortunate i'm not surprised |
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totodeinhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-30-09 02:07 PM Response to Original message |
50. This is really sad. |
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Vidar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-30-09 03:44 PM Response to Original message |
66. I was very supportive of Hillary as SOS, but her ties with the Family, |
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