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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 12:56 PM Original message |
Sarkozy orders bill on banning full Islamic veils |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 01:02 PM Response to Original message |
1. Good, those things are dangerous around machinery |
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DRex (531 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 01:49 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. While I appreciate the sentiment.... |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 02:04 PM Response to Reply #4 |
5. Public health and safety are concerns |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 02:59 PM Response to Reply #5 |
15. Can't wait to see the wording on this. |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 03:52 PM Response to Reply #15 |
19. Yeah, no kidding |
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DRex (531 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 03:12 PM Response to Reply #5 |
17. But where does it stop? |
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Flaneur (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 01:05 PM Response to Original message |
2. I can't support government-mandated dress codes. |
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liberation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 01:43 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. The freedom to subjugate women is not considered a "fundamental" freedom |
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Flaneur (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 02:48 PM Response to Reply #3 |
10. And if a woman wants to go around veiled? |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 02:51 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. It has to be a Christian veil, or a Jewish veil |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 02:49 PM Response to Reply #3 |
11. You would have to prove that all Muslim women are wearing them against their will |
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liberation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 02:57 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. Well, I assume some people may actually enjoy being slapped, abused, and humiliated |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 03:12 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. You seem very comfortable imposing your context on the garment |
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liberation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 04:48 PM Response to Reply #16 |
24. Care to explain what my "context" is? |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 06:42 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. Shall we choose your definition of subjugation, or Andrea Dworkin's? |
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krabigirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 04:28 PM Response to Reply #3 |
22. Many women choose to wear these veils. Who cares? |
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AngryAmish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 03:59 PM Response to Reply #2 |
20. The government mandates that I wear pants |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-22-10 08:31 AM Response to Reply #20 |
38. LOL only in Reference, in Periodicals you should be good to go. nt |
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Sen. Walter Sobchak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-23-10 06:40 AM Response to Reply #2 |
42. what about psychotic misogynist mandated dress codes? |
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leftynyc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 02:17 PM Response to Original message |
6. If he words the law |
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liberation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 02:31 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. Not really |
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nyy1998 (984 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 02:33 PM Response to Original message |
8. Don't know where I stand on this issue....Muslim-Europe relations haven't been very good |
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Laughing Mirror (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 02:42 PM Response to Original message |
9. NIcolas Sarkozy, staunch defender of the dignity of women, excepts those in veils |
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unabelladonna (483 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 08:27 PM Response to Reply #9 |
29. so? |
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Sen. Walter Sobchak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-23-10 09:11 AM Response to Reply #9 |
43. I don't care what his motivation is, |
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apnu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 02:57 PM Response to Original message |
13. Boy oh boy, France really wants a reckoning with its growing Islamic population. Stupid move (nt) |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 03:33 PM Response to Original message |
18. Sarkosy's in major hot water, so he reaches out to ultra rightwingers. |
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krabigirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 04:27 PM Response to Original message |
21. Yikes. |
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liberation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 05:09 PM Response to Reply #21 |
25. It is about full face veils, not plain hijabs |
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Patsy Stone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 04:42 PM Response to Original message |
23. Worst idea ever? |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 05:34 PM Response to Original message |
26. If it passes it will be the opening move in France's next series of riots. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 08:14 PM Response to Original message |
28. Good for him. |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 11:49 PM Response to Original message |
30. Is it funny or sad that a French conservative is more leftwing then a US Democrat? |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-22-10 12:30 AM Response to Reply #30 |
31. Denying personal freedom is leftwing? |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-22-10 07:50 AM Response to Reply #31 |
36. Defending the oppression of women is left-wing? |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-23-10 06:27 AM Response to Reply #36 |
41. Would you deny my clothing rights? |
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alp227 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-22-10 12:55 AM Response to Original message |
32. George Orwell in his classic novel Nineteen Eighty-Four: "Freedom is slavery" |
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JustABozoOnThisBus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-22-10 05:24 AM Response to Original message |
33. I bet not all face coverings will be banned |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-22-10 06:55 AM Response to Original message |
34. will the bill only apply to women? only to full face covering worn by those of a certain religion |
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PassingFair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-22-10 07:16 AM Response to Original message |
35. People in my city are not supposed to enter banks or party stores... |
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riderinthestorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-22-10 08:30 AM Response to Reply #35 |
37. Yup, we can and do have governmentally imposed dress codes about what we can (or can't)wear publicly |
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fifthoffive (210 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-22-10 08:46 AM Response to Reply #37 |
39. Thank you! |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-23-10 10:14 AM Response to Reply #37 |
44. and if the law generally prohibits covering the face it would be one thing |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-22-10 08:48 AM Response to Original message |
40. Good. I can't wait to see what kind of uniforms the "Police de Mode" will be wearing. |
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