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Jkid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 10:43 AM Original message |
Amtrak ridership is up, but passengers grouse about frequent delays |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 10:46 AM Response to Original message |
1. Yes. CONGRESS gives BILLIONS to highways and airlines but a pittance to Amtrak. nt |
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naaman fletcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 01:11 PM Response to Reply #1 |
23. I take Amtrak quite a bit. |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 01:56 PM Response to Reply #23 |
27. I agree. They need to give an entire traincar to Krispy Kreme or Panera or something. The whole car |
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maxsolomon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 10:52 AM Response to Original message |
2. 7 years ago i took the train from Seattle to Portland to pick up a car |
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NoNothing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 10:57 AM Response to Original message |
3. Come again? |
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Fruittree (488 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 11:15 AM Response to Reply #3 |
6. Having ridden Amtrak numerous times |
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NoNothing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 11:21 AM Response to Reply #6 |
8. Freight traffic causes delays, true |
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Dr.Phool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 11:31 AM Response to Reply #8 |
11. Sorry, but they've just made air travel such a pain in the ass, I quit. |
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NoNothing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 11:34 AM Response to Reply #11 |
13. My point |
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TankLV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 02:41 PM Response to Reply #13 |
37. If we gave trains the same amount we do to just the airlines, we'd make train travel even better! |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 09:30 PM Response to Reply #11 |
57. ABSOLUTELY! |
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Gormy Cuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 11:40 AM Response to Reply #8 |
14. The vast majority of people don't have access to reliable train transport. |
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NoNothing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 11:54 AM Response to Reply #14 |
15. Boston to NYC is not a "long trip" |
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Gormy Cuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 12:13 PM Response to Reply #15 |
20. It's the length considered the perfect niche -- 200 miles. |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 02:01 PM Response to Reply #14 |
32. There's a HUGE federal subsidy for airports in Johnstown, PA and Utica, NY, for example. WHY? |
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mrmpa (707 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 03:40 PM Response to Reply #32 |
39. Talk to John Murtha |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 09:12 PM Response to Reply #39 |
53. Yep. And Sherry Boelhert in Utica. It's the small airport subsidy that built needless airports |
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proudohioan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 04:19 PM Response to Reply #32 |
43. Because everyone wants to go to Johnstown to research their genealogy?? |
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Fruittree (488 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 12:02 PM Response to Reply #8 |
16. I understand what you're saying |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 09:28 PM Response to Reply #8 |
56. It routinely causes hours and hours of delay where I live... |
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Greyskye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-26-10 10:45 AM Response to Reply #56 |
63. West Coast Amtrak has problems |
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enlightenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 12:05 PM Response to Reply #6 |
17. But if we are going to have viable passenger rail |
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NoNothing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 12:11 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. But what would be the point? |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 02:00 PM Response to Reply #19 |
31. Air travel is not energy efficient or as versatile or as reliable in bad weather. nt |
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enlightenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 02:25 PM Response to Reply #19 |
34. In the west, where distances between major cities tends to be |
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Fruittree (488 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 12:28 PM Response to Reply #17 |
22. I agree - in order for rail travel to thrive |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 01:59 PM Response to Reply #6 |
30. Yes, I've had excellent luck with trains being on time. nt |
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Xithras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-27-10 12:20 PM Response to Reply #6 |
67. That's because the rails are privately owned. |
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givemebackmycountry (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 11:03 AM Response to Original message |
4. And we are going to build a state of the art high speed railway nationwide- |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 09:13 PM Response to Reply #4 |
54. Current railstock could to an effective job if there were decent track so no delays. nt |
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Psephos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 10:43 PM Response to Reply #4 |
61. the US is not a fat, bloated, diseased hooker on the bed with legs spread wide |
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peace13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 11:05 AM Response to Original message |
5. In the last four months I have made two round trips on Amtrak from Ohio to Salt Lake City . |
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proudohioan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 12:10 PM Response to Reply #5 |
18. How did that work out for you, overall? |
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peace13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 01:37 PM Response to Reply #18 |
25. Yes it is still the California Zephyr. |
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proudohioan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 01:58 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. Thank you for the info... |
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peace13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 02:36 PM Response to Reply #28 |
35. And thank you for the kind words! n/t |
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proudohioan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 04:16 PM Response to Reply #35 |
42. You are most welcome. Best of luck! nt |
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xxqqqzme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 04:37 PM Response to Reply #28 |
45. If you do get a sleeper unit for your kids, |
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proudohioan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 04:46 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. Thank you for the tips..... |
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madmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 11:19 AM Response to Original message |
7. Several years ago I took Amtrak from Ohio to Maryland, what would have been an |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 11:26 AM Response to Original message |
9. I love trains, dislike the disorganized inefficient mess that's ours BUT why blame Amtrack f/ delay |
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Dr.Phool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 11:27 AM Response to Original message |
10. I've traveled Amtrak a few times. |
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harmonicon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 11:31 AM Response to Original message |
12. I agree that it's a real problem |
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mwooldri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 12:27 PM Response to Original message |
21. Who owns the tracks? Who controls them? |
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hayu_lol (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 01:36 PM Response to Reply #21 |
24. Different laws rule AMTRAK passage in different states... |
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mwooldri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 04:12 PM Response to Reply #24 |
41. Nice to know some states are providing some leverage. |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 01:59 PM Response to Reply #21 |
29. I know it's ConRail through NY state. nt |
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Dr.Phool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 02:19 PM Response to Reply #29 |
33. No more Conrail. |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 02:37 PM Response to Reply #33 |
36. True that. I used to have an office in the NS headquarters building. nt |
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elleng (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 03:49 PM Response to Reply #36 |
40. DID you, Cap'n? |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 09:11 PM Response to Reply #40 |
52. I worked in the Sovran Bank building and NS had their headquarters there. Those guys |
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elleng (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 10:07 PM Response to Reply #52 |
60. HI, CHESSIE! |
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woo me with science (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 01:49 PM Response to Original message |
26. Why is it "grousing" if the delays are frequent? |
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LaPera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 03:02 PM Response to Original message |
38. Privatization is better-Corporations always charge more but they are more reliable-never cut corners |
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proudohioan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 04:29 PM Response to Reply #38 |
44. Did you forget ...... |
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JanMichael (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 05:43 PM Response to Reply #44 |
48. Beat me to it. nt. |
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proudohioan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 06:06 PM Response to Reply #48 |
50. I figured as much. I'm sure everyone else knew what you meant, too. nt |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 09:34 PM Response to Reply #38 |
58. Bull-feathers! |
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FarCenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 05:17 PM Response to Original message |
47. A couple times per year, a suicide will stop the local commuter trains as well |
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proudohioan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 06:05 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. How gory! nt |
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Skink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 08:17 PM Response to Original message |
51. I took amtrack cross country once cause they let my luggage ride free. |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 09:24 PM Response to Original message |
55. I used to love taking the train but the last time I tried... |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 09:37 PM Response to Original message |
59. And, having spent months in Europe... |
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elleng (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-26-10 01:28 AM Response to Reply #59 |
62. but think about the history and the geography. |
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Jkid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-26-10 08:09 PM Response to Original message |
64. I'm surpised that this thread is up so here's some Actual 4chan Quotes |
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NaturalHigh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-26-10 11:50 PM Response to Original message |
65. Frequent and LONG in my experience. |
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RUMMYisFROSTED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-27-10 08:14 AM Response to Original message |
66. ...and everything is timely at the airport. |
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