Christian group slams Obama salute to gay dads

[Ed Barrow]

Source: USA Today

A Christian group is denouncing Barack Obama's salute to families headed by "two fathers" in the president's June 18 Father's Day proclamation.

The proclamation says, "Nurturing families come in many forms, and children may be raised by a father and mother, a single father, two fathers, a step father, a grandfather, or caring guardian."

American Family Association president Tim Wildmon says, "This is the first time in our nation's history that a president has used Father's Day as an excuse to promote the radical homosexual agenda and completely redefine the word 'family.'"

But White House Deputy Press Secretary Bill Burton says Obama was simply trying to be "inclusive," and notes that the president used similar language in his Mother's Day proclamation.



Read more: http://www.usatoday.com/news/religion/2010-06-22-obama-gay-christian_N.htm

[Unvanguard]

1. Good. It means Obama's doing something right. n/t

[peacebird]

2. Good for Obama!

[arundhatiroyfan]

18. That and his vow to end homelessness are very good news. nt.

[jody]

3. IMO AFA, membership a few dozen, does not speak for 235 million Christians in the US. n/t

[provis99]

4. "radical homosexual agenda"

Isn't that usually in all capital letters?:rofl:

[ruggerson]

14. I'll be right back

the radical homosexual partner is calling me to come get my radical homosexual dinner. (Spaghetti)

[DesertDiamond]

5. Score points for the Prez!

[mrbarber]

6. Yawn. Who cares what a bunch of frothing at the mouth extremists..

have to say.

[SunnySong]

7. The AFA needs to join their brethern in Western Pakistan. nt

[Grassy Knoll]

8. This group is a freak show........

They think hate crime laws are un-american.

http://www.advocate.com/News/Daily_News/2009/10/27/AFA__Hate_Crimes_Bill_is_Un-American/

[dickthegrouch]

9. Gay men have always been fathers

Millions of gay men have been fathers. Perhaps most because they felt pressured by parents or society to conform to the norm. I'd venture to suggest that they are the more unhappy fathers if they felt forced into the relationship.

Why can't these fundamentalist fools recognize that their pressure is condemning a sizable number of children to a less than loving relationship between their parents?

GAY does not equal impotent, does not equal incapable. There are even movies where girl traps gay man into fatherhood.

This complete BS about the supposed ideal having to be the only state-sanctioned relationship has to stop. Religion is a choice, homosexuality is not.

Equal protection is the law of the land, even if it is not practiced very well.

I think we should be impeaching every judge who can't understand that.

[Divine Discontent]

15. I dated a guy briefly who was pushed into getting married by his family

he did "what was right according to them", and had two boys. He appeared to be a VERY loving father.

[drmjg]

10. Well how about...

when a kid is well raised by his natural father AND a step father. To me that is also two dads!

Seems to me that the complainers think EVERY divorce means at least one of the dads is no longer a "dad" ("dad permit" had to be turned in when the final papers were signed, I guess).

As a man who was raises without any dad (mine died when I was3, mom never remarried), I applaud any man taking the commitment to give his best to kids. And when that is a "two dad" family of any type, including a same sex partnership, that is a good thing.

So AFA can shove it, in my not so humble (for today at least) opinion.

Let's raise one up for all dads of any type who do their best to give all they can to kids.:toast:

[Roland99]

11. Fuck them.

[mwooldri]

12. AFA obviously does not believe in human rights.

If they are so pro-family they need to re-read the 1948 universal declaration of human rights as adopted by the United Nations and considered Common International Law, and tell me exactly where in that document does it say that a family has to be headed by a heterosexually married couple.

I've read and re-read that document so many times lately as part of working for the 501(c)3 advocacy group that I am part of, I can't find anything that explicitly rules out sexual preference or identity in it at all.

Article 16 in the UD spells out exactly what a family is. It says "Men and women of full age, without any limitation due to race, nationality or religion, have the right to marry and to found a family." It does not specify what gender the spouses are anywhere. Doesn't say anything about monogamy or polygamy either.

The UD isn't exactly part of the "radical homosexual agenda". It's been around 62 years, it was formed in part by Eleanor Roosevelt, and although it is not legally binding, the USA supported and voted for it in the General Assembly, and is considered part of the UN charter.

The AFA are entitled to their opinions, and can express them. However my expression is that the AFA are wrong, I do not want to be associated with them, and in short, "everyones equal".

[ruggerson]

13. Earth to rightwing Christians: You've lost the culture war

It will take another twenty years for complete legislative and judicial victory, but you HAVE lost.

[donheld]

16. American Family Association is NOT a Christian group

unless liars are Christian.

[WeekendWarrior]

17. So falling in love is a radical agenda, eh?

I guess for somebody as heartless as Wildmon that's probably true. What a douchebag.

[Connor W]

19. these freaks

always pretainimg that whole familie values bullcrap on folks.

[cheneyschernobyl]

20. I'm sorry...I'm sorry...excuse me...

I must have missed the whole "radical homosexual agenda" thing.
:wtf:


How does President Obama's proclamation = promoting a so-called radical homosexual agenda?
:crazy:

[Arkana]

21. Huh.

So the AFA says Obama's a radical gay-agenda-advancing nutjob, and DU says Obama hates all gay people and would see them converted to raw carbon for energy.

Which is it?

[krabigirl]

22. Losers. becoming more and more irrelevant by the day, and they are pissed.

[Nye Bevan]

23. "Saluting" families headed by two fathers is easy.

Supporting the right of these two fathers to marry carries a little more political risk. More political risk than Obama is prepared to take, unfortunately.

[GoddessOfGuinness]

24. That is no Christian group

These folks need to look up the word "family" in a dictionary.

None of the definitions I came across say anything about families consisting of a man, a woman, and their children. The closest one was "one's wife or husband and one's children", but note that it says "or"...not "a wife and a husband and their children".

After they look that up, they should look up "homophobia".