Author: FBI Files On Kerry Stolen

[RamboLiberal]

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/03/22/politics/main607670.shtml

The man who uncovered evidence that the FBI tailed presidential candidate John Kerry for months in 1971 said some of those files were stolen this week.

Author Gerald Nicosia reported to police Friday that three of the 14 boxes of once-secret FBI files he obtained under the Freedom of Information Act were taken from his Corte Madera home Thursday.

Particular files from the remaining 11 boxes were also taken, Nicosia said, including files containing documents about Kerry that hadn't been reviewed yet by others.

"The three files folders about John Kerry were taken," Nicosia said. "Those revelations are lost now, at least to me."

[thebigidea]

1. oh, he's doing a Kerry book? Or, was?

He did a great bio on Jack Kerouac that's always good to reread every few years...

[proud patriot]

2. let's see , which party has a history of breaking and entering ?

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

I wonder if G gordon liddy is doing any plumbing
work , or advised the WH in techniques of plumbing .

[KoKo]

3. Here's more from the LA Times account:

Author Reports Theft of Some of Kerry's FBI Files
By John M. Glionna
Times Staff Writer

March 27, 2004



Gerald Nicosia told police that the theft occurred sometime Thursday from his home in Corte Madera, a Marin County suburb of San Francisco, said Sgt. Chuck Lovenguth of the Twin Cities Police Department.

"I don't know who could have done this," Nicosia said Friday. "It could be somebody who saw the boxes via news reports and wanted a piece of the presidential candidate for posterity, like a piece of the Berlin Wall."

Kerry, a Democratic senator from Massachusetts, will almost certainly receive his party's nomination this summer and challenge George W. Bush for the presidency this fall.Nicosia had received 20,000 pages of internal FBI surveillance files in 1999 through a Freedom of Information Act request. At the time, he was researching "Home to War," a chronicle of the Vietnam protest years. But the release came too late for use in the book, which was largely about Vietnam Veterans Against the War. Kerry was among the leaders of the group, which was founded in 1967 and drew 10,000 members nationwide.

Nicosia said he suspected that the thieves were specifically in pursuit of the files because a camera and other expensive items in the home were left untouched. He added that he did not know exactly what material was taken because it was not cataloged or marked. Three of 14 boxes of files that had been stacked in his kitchen are missing. He said he was moving the remaining documents to a secure location Friday afternoon.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-theft27mar27,1,5997530,print.story

[TacticalPeek]

4. Luckily, his house wasn't fire-bombed.

Generalissimo Nixon is still dead.

:evilgrin:

[rumguy]

5. would there not be copies?

or would the govt. just hand over the only copies of such documents?

[napi21]

6. Absolutely the origianals are still with the FBI.

They don't provide originals. Even when they subpoena files from people, they insisst on copies!

This is really strange. Why wouldn't a thief just request his own copies from the FBI? I feel quite sure if it was someone within the* admin. they could have gotten the copies without being publicised. Hmmm

[Merlin]

7. Betcha the FBI can no longer produce the originals either.

Just a guess.

This has the earmarks of a scrub operation.

[thinkingwoman]

13. love your tagline, but...

wouldn't 8643 be event better?

[Merlin]

16. Not bad. Not bad at all.

Thanks for the idea, thinkingwoman!

[thinkingwoman]

21. it has a certain symmetry

doesn't it?

Use it in good health!

[MasonJar]

8. Crawfordgate is looking more like Watergate every day. I refuse

to call it piggate; pigs are actually very intelligent animals. I wonder how many ranch owners in Texas are afraid of horses.

[flamingpie2500]

9. Probably Fox News--

[R Hickey]

10. Rove's changed Kerry's FBI files, and doesn't want it known

Bush has people at the FBI records department, able to change Kerry's real files. Rove wouldn't want copies of the original, exonerating files to contradict his 'new,' nastier files.

The next thing you know, we'll have all kinds of semi-plausible sexual/bizarre dirt surface about Kerry, backed up by Rove's new phonied up FBI files. Here's their plan:

Some unsususpecting investigative journalist will request from the FBI and be mailed those 'new' dirty files in the future, and think they are real. The reporter will innocently smear Kerry with out even knowing that the stories are counterfeit.

This reminds me to the 'Debate Tape' dirty trick in 2000 where Rove sent fake Bush practice-debate tapes to the Democrats, in order to smear them with the booty. The Republicans were caught red-handed on US Postal surveillance camera, and the matter was later quietly disposed of after Bush got in.

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

25. Even though I'd never put it past them, this would be EXTREMELY risky.

A lot riskier stunt than planting a bug in your own candidate's office, since your guy would be a lot more likely to be caught in the act and potentially traced to you (unless the writer were in on the scam, which doesn't seem likely for a guy who wrote a good bio of Jack Kerouac).

Traced to Roveco = ruinous electoral defeat, so any potential gain would have to be massive, essentially a sure win. The scenario of "revising" the original files to sling dirt on Kerry would be a possible but also EXTREMELY risky since that would have to involve confederates within the FBI with a significance chance of being exposed as well.

The nebulous gain of trying to make Kerry look suspicious by having these files dissappear wouldn't seem remotely good enough to justify a risk involving committing a crime and potentially being found out.

Although this is the same crew that had the balls to run a Goebbels style propaganda campaign to ramp our country into a war to help them grab more political power. So I guess the risk taking doesn't get any greater than that.


"...the rank and file are usually much more primitive than we imagine. Propaganda must therefore always be essentially simple and repetitious."

"The most brilliant propagandist technique will yield no success unless one fundamental principle is borne in mind constantly...it must confine itself to a few points and repeat them over and over."

-Joseph Goebbels, Nazi Propaganda Minister

[louis-t]

11. this has 'Republican Dirty Trick'

written all over it.

[Florida_Geek]

12. Your right

it sounds like there was something ADD and they had to get it back.

[Junkdrawer]

17. Classic Rove. I posted this in January ...

Karl Rove is a master at the self-inflicted dirty trick. I would expect that as this year progresses, we'll see any number of incidents that make 'ole Georgie look like a beat-up puppy. And it will all come from Rove.


Rove's dirty fingerprints could also be seen in the Iowa Senate race between Tom Harkin and GOP candidate Greg Ganske. A few months ago, a story was leaked that the Harkin campaign had employed a spy within the Ganske campaign. To put this in a Rove context, we must go back to the 1986 Texas gubernatorial race in which Rove's candidate Bill Clements was taking on Democratic Governor Mark White. Just before a debate between the two candidates, Rove spun the story that his office had been bugged. No proof. But the insinuation that White's people had carried out the bugging was reported by the media. In the election, Clements defeated White. Rove stashed away more political capital into his already heavy knapsack of ill-gotten IOUs.

During the 2000 presidential campaign, we were obviously treated to more Rove chicanery when the following Associated Press story hit the wires: "A woman who worked for a media company that produced ads for President George W. Bush's campaign was indicted for secretly mailing a videotape of Bush practicing for a debate to Vice President Al Gore's campaign." Yes, that videotape, along with a 120-page briefing book, just happened to turn up in Gore's headquarters as fast as the CD-ROM turned up in Lafayette Park. The sourcerer Segretti must be very proud of his apprentice. In 1980, no Republican bemoaned the fact that Jimmy Carter's debate briefing book was swiped and found its way into the hands of the Reagan-Bush campaign. In Rove's world, its only an affront when someone "steals" your own campaign secrets and not when your are on the receiving end of a heist.

Exposing Karl Rove

It's what he does. No one has spent more time doing dirty tricks and covering up behind himself than Rove. And the beauty of the self-inflicted dirty trick is that it is so difficult to expose the trick. Get a third party to expose a know skeleton in your candidate's closet at the last minute and EVERYONE will think your opponent has "gone dirty".

About the only defense for Rove is to "bell the cat". Make sure that everyone knows his MO so that when the inevitable self-inflicted dirty trick occurs, Rove will be the chief suspect. Of course, this assumes an honest press. But something must be done...


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=993237

[Tom Yossarian Joad]

14. This really, really stinks...

Too many possibilities to even speculate at the moment.

[teryang]

15. The question I have about this FOIA request

Records containing personal information about third parties is proteccted under the privacy act. John Kerry could request records pertaining to himself from government records without having info about himself redacted, but technically no one else can under FOIA.

Someone tell me where I am wrong on this.

[flamingpie2500]

18. Some info in this article--not sure if it will answer your question.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-kerryfbi22mar22,1,1791754,print.story?coll=la-home-headlines

[louis-t]

24. Isn't Bushco trying to stifle FOIA?

[BiggJawn]

19. I smell a Turdblossom!

This has "Rove" scrawled all over it. and I'd bet money thet the FBI can no longer produce the missing files, either.

[IndianaGreen]

20. Gerald Nicosia got the documents through the FOIA

Nicosia apparently does not have additional information gathered outside his FOIA requests. I don't see the point of stealing those documents when they are available to just about anyone else.

Who benefits from this?

[Lindsay]

23. The only thing that occurs to me

is that it takes time to get things through FOIA. So some "bright" right winger probably figured they'd save themselves some time by helping themselves to the files.

[DoYouEverWonder]

22. The title should read

Copies of Kerry's FBI files stolen.

I'm sure the FBI still has the originals.

[emad]

26. Another angle to this from London's Foreign Press Club sources:

The story about these confidential FBI files also surfaced in London this weekend where the story goes that a French press stringer named variously Jean Andre Douardin, Andre Douardin and Jean Andreas Douardini/d'Ardini/ Jean Ardini has been trying to sell a story to the highest bidder about Kerry's wife's connections to Ted Maher, the nurse currently serving 10 years in a Monaco jail for the death of banker Edmond Safra. Don't know if any UK based journos who are members of the FPC are buying it or even reporting it to their editors back home. However:

The gist of the story is as follows: FBI leads from the Maher investigation have thrown up question marks about the connection of UK rag trade wide boy and now billionaire Philip Green (owner of UK's BHS inter alia) and his wife Tina (Cristina), who are resident in Monaco, and Edmond Safra.

It is alleged that Safra was blackmailled to launder some $300 million from a trust set up in the Dutch Antilles, under the control of the former husband of Theresa Heinz Kerry, who died mysteriously in a light plane crash. The money was allegedly transferred some three weeks before his death in a series of transactions into accounts controlled by Philip Green's wife Tina, whose personal fortune has been the subject of much investigation, and who has escaped much judicial process into allegations of fraud and money laundering by basing herself in the tax haven of Monaco.

Subsequently, her husband Philip Green took control of the UK High Street chain BHS and Topman etc. He has always claimed his wife's extraordinary riches were from a previous divorce settlement and that husband/wife money transfers are his personal business. Including any that might have bankrolled his personal fortune from rag trade takeovers in the UK.

Other uncorroborated snippets of this story allege that Tina Green is the daughter of Edmond Safra's widow Lilly - who inherited £1 billion from her husband Edmond after the fire that killed him for which Maher is doing time - and Theresa Heinz Kerry's former husband, who left such a large chunk of his money to her.

Haven't got any online link to this but will pick up again if this geos any further in London.