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cal04 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 11:04 AM Original message |
Axelrod: Chamber must prove foreign money allegations false |
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Arkana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 11:09 AM Response to Original message |
1. I'm sure Doddering Bob went the distance to protect his Republican friends. |
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rbilancia (131 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 11:20 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. He always does. He and CBS are fucking RePUKE shills, like most of the corporate MSM. |
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Politics_Guy25 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 04:37 PM Response to Reply #3 |
93. Fun fact: Spread this everywhere-Katie Couric's executive is a Rove republican |
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Politics_Guy25 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 04:36 PM Response to Reply #1 |
91. Hehe my first thoughts exactly |
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rbilancia (131 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 11:19 AM Response to Original message |
2. Good Dave! Punch them in the fucking eyeballs! If they are innocent, then SHOW THE RECORDS !! |
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the redcoat (510 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 12:59 PM Response to Reply #2 |
8. Are you kidding? |
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LiberalFighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 01:09 PM Response to Reply #8 |
12. The burden of proof is on the Chamber to prove they are not accepting foreign money |
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the redcoat (510 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 01:17 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. Transparency is different than saying |
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rbilancia (131 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 01:39 PM Response to Reply #14 |
24. How can you ENFORCE if they don't have to SHOW the records? Fuck them ! |
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backtomn (424 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 05:41 PM Response to Reply #24 |
119. It's called "probable cause" and a "warrant" |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 05:50 PM Response to Reply #119 |
127. What is with conflating Axelrod's claim with a criminal case? |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 01:41 PM Response to Reply #14 |
26. BS |
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backtomn (424 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 05:45 PM Response to Reply #26 |
122. Poor analogy |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 05:47 PM Response to Reply #122 |
124. "This is a private organization" |
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backtomn (424 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 05:55 PM Response to Reply #124 |
130. Same is true for unions...... |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 05:58 PM Response to Reply #130 |
132. "no one can ask them to provide documents without facts." |
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dotymed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 06:55 AM Response to Reply #130 |
151. LOL...you have NO idea |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 03:13 PM Response to Reply #14 |
59. "having to prove your innocence"? |
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24601 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 04:27 PM Response to Reply #59 |
86. If that were the case, you couldn't prosecute a company. However, |
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joeglow3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 12:32 PM Response to Reply #86 |
160. Arthur Andersen alum here |
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24601 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 03:22 PM Response to Reply #160 |
173. Don't blame you at all. I'm just disgusted at those who want to |
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elias7 (913 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 05:01 PM Response to Reply #14 |
100. Obama didn't make the statement in a vacuum |
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livingonearth (451 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 05:48 PM Response to Reply #14 |
125. From what I've read the allegations were not out of the blue. |
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rbilancia (131 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 01:40 PM Response to Reply #12 |
25. Here Here! Just show the records ! What do they have to hide? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 03:06 PM Response to Reply #12 |
53. No, it isn't. Axelrod is not the Attorney General |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 03:11 PM Response to Reply #53 |
57. Axelrod stated his opinion based on the allegations being level, he |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 03:18 PM Response to Reply #57 |
62. He can demand anything he likes but there is no burden here |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 03:22 PM Response to Reply #62 |
64. Then why are you upset and |
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backtomn (424 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 05:47 PM Response to Reply #57 |
123. ....and the Chamber is free to ignore him. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 05:54 PM Response to Reply #123 |
129. And people are free to continue demanding disclosure |
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wordpix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 11:58 AM Response to Reply #129 |
154. +1 add me to those wanting disclosure from CoC, obviously protecting the multinational corpos |
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fasttense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 06:29 AM Response to Reply #53 |
150. See, the thing here is that it is illegal to take FOREIGN campaign contributions. |
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24601 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 04:23 PM Original message |
It's not who you believe but who has the burden of proof. I can |
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backtomn (424 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 05:48 PM Response to Original message |
126. Exactly.....and..... |
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bluerum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 06:20 PM Response to Original message |
136. The burden is on the COC when they solicit $$$'s from foreign sources. |
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wordpix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 12:03 PM Response to Reply #136 |
155. just sent $ to MoveOn. "We have a system" ---CoC |
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wordpix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 12:07 PM Response to Reply #136 |
156. EXACTLY - and they'd better have good bookkeepers and records |
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rbilancia (131 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 01:38 PM Response to Reply #8 |
23. Bullshit ! They take foreign money and won't release the records. Whose side are you fucking on? |
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24601 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 04:24 PM Response to Reply #23 |
84. How about on the Constitution's side n/t |
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the redcoat (510 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 09:25 PM Response to Reply #23 |
143. It's not about WHAT they're doing |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 01:46 PM Response to Reply #8 |
27. "I thought DU members were supposed to be better than this." |
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backtomn (424 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 05:53 PM Response to Reply #27 |
128. You have this issue ALL WRONG |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 05:56 PM Response to Reply #128 |
131. No, you have it all wrong |
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Egnever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 02:24 PM Response to Reply #27 |
163. no one is trying to give them a pass |
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AndrewP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 03:10 PM Response to Reply #27 |
169. +1 |
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geckosfeet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 01:48 PM Response to Reply #8 |
28. I am not asking you to prove you are NOT a corporate shill - I will let your post speak for itself. |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 01:55 PM Response to Reply #8 |
31. In a court, everybody shows everything that is relevant. |
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backtomn (424 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 06:00 PM Response to Reply #31 |
133. You can't request EVERTHING in "discovery" |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 09:45 PM Response to Reply #133 |
144. If the cases get past the very initial stages, it is quite likely that |
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Iowa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 02:03 PM Response to Reply #8 |
32. The rules pertaining to the purchase of elections by corporations are not the same as... |
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backtomn (424 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 06:05 PM Response to Reply #32 |
134. Assumption on top of assumption |
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Iowa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 06:42 PM Response to Reply #134 |
137. No, no, and no. |
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ooglymoogly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 02:11 PM Response to Reply #8 |
36. And what a red herring that was. |
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backtomn (424 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 06:07 PM Response to Reply #36 |
135. You must have proof to charge people with money laundering. |
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ooglymoogly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 07:05 PM Response to Reply #135 |
139. When evidence mounts. |
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ooglymoogly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 07:15 PM Response to Reply #135 |
140. To get proof you must have an investigation. |
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zbdent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 02:49 PM Response to Reply #8 |
47. them's the rules ... |
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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 04:01 PM Response to Reply #8 |
76. "I thought DU members were supposed to be better than this." |
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ArcticFox (654 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 04:10 PM Response to Reply #8 |
78. The foreign donations are known |
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pattmarty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 04:11 PM Response to Reply #8 |
80. You seem to forget the "conservatives" do it ALL the time. |
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Egnever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 02:26 PM Response to Reply #80 |
164. and we scream like stuck pigs when they do |
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pattmarty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 03:14 PM Response to Reply #164 |
170. Here is the OBVIOUS problem now. They are fucking cleaning......... |
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Orangepeel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 04:23 PM Response to Reply #8 |
83. there is reasonable suspicion. that's why the defense is "it's only peanuts" |
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Egnever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 02:27 PM Response to Reply #8 |
165. DU is often just a pile on |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 04:29 PM Response to Reply #165 |
187. "Congress needs to pass laws that force the transparency." |
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backtomn (424 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 05:39 PM Response to Reply #2 |
118. Is this America??? |
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zehnkatzen (769 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 12:02 PM Response to Original message |
4. I just realized how long it's been since I've watched CBS News ... |
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Iowa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 02:08 PM Response to Reply #4 |
34. I haven't watched ANY TV news for years. None. |
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Dreamer Tatum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 12:32 PM Response to Original message |
5. Ummm...so if you're accused of a crime, the burden of proof is on YOU? |
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enki23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 12:35 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. they aren't in fucking court. |
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ooglymoogly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 02:57 PM Response to Reply #6 |
48. They are in the most important court in this country. |
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Bjorn Against (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 01:01 PM Response to Reply #5 |
9. Who was accused of a crime? |
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Bette Noir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 01:17 PM Response to Reply #9 |
15. Au contraire, the Supremes have, this year, established a right to make secret contributions. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 02:24 PM Response to Reply #15 |
41. That is not what the law did |
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geckosfeet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 01:50 PM Response to Reply #5 |
29. What are they hiding? Why are they hiding it? This is important enough to demand transparency. |
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Iowa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 02:06 PM Response to Reply #5 |
33. The rules pertaining to the purchase of elections by corporations are not the same as... |
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ooglymoogly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 02:28 PM Response to Reply #5 |
42. You can bet if they are...the door of their house will be jackbooted |
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cliffordu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 03:21 PM Response to Reply #5 |
63. Perfect politics. |
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SomeGuyInEagan (872 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 03:18 PM Response to Reply #5 |
172. I know ... it completely goes against how you and I and most people are raised. But it works ... |
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Richardo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 12:48 PM Response to Original message |
7. Way to be credible, David. Very Fox News of you. Throw the shit and make them show it's NOT true |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 01:04 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. There is nothing "Fox News" about |
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gristy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 01:08 PM Response to Reply #10 |
11. Yes, it certainly is the method that Fox News has used for years |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 01:21 PM Response to Reply #11 |
16. BS |
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Richardo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 01:10 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. There is plenty "Fox News" about not citing those facts and demanding your target prove a negative |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 01:24 PM Response to Reply #13 |
17. Prove a negative? |
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Richardo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 01:29 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. That's what Axlerod said. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 01:36 PM Response to Reply #19 |
22. What? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 01:29 PM Response to Reply #7 |
18. Deleted message |
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geckosfeet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 01:52 PM Response to Reply #7 |
30. It's not based on nothing. If there is nothing to hide lets see the money trail. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 02:09 PM Response to Reply #30 |
35. It's not based on nothing but the tactic is still classic right wing bs. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 02:12 PM Response to Reply #35 |
38. "classic right wing bs" |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 02:14 PM Response to Reply #38 |
39. Stay classy, ProSense. n/t |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 02:18 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. EFerrari, may I refer to your screen name? EFerrari. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 02:37 PM Response to Reply #40 |
44. You mean, why is it disgusting that when we point out this tactic is shady |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 02:46 PM Response to Reply #44 |
45. No, I meant it's curious that anyone would defend the Chamber of Commerce |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 03:02 PM Response to Reply #45 |
50. Who is defending them? No one. I hope you don't sprain anything |
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wordpix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 12:19 PM Response to Reply #44 |
158. actually, what's shady is COC claims to "have a system," yet won't explain the system |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 01:29 PM Response to Original message |
20. Karl Rove is upset |
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Just One Woman (199 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 03:12 PM Response to Reply #20 |
58. How Dare You |
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cliffordu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 03:23 PM Response to Reply #58 |
65. what the fuck are you talking about??? |
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Just One Woman (199 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 03:46 PM Response to Reply #65 |
71. take a chill pill and read the post |
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cliffordu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 03:50 PM Response to Reply #71 |
72. This is thunderdome |
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Just One Woman (199 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 03:56 PM Response to Reply #72 |
74. read the post |
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cliffordu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 04:00 PM Response to Reply #74 |
75. No breather needed. |
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Just One Woman (199 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 04:03 PM Response to Reply #75 |
77. thank you |
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JohnWxy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 02:11 PM Response to Original message |
37. I wouldn't say they are "stealing our democracy", they are SELLING our Democracy - that's what GOP |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 02:33 PM Response to Original message |
43. As an aside, I wonder what Axelrod has to say about the millions we funnel |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 02:48 PM Response to Reply #43 |
46. Wow! |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 03:00 PM Response to Reply #46 |
49. LOL. No, I'm pointing out the hypocrisy of going after the Chamber of Commerce |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 03:04 PM Response to Reply #49 |
52. So you agree that the Chamber should be allowed to funnel foreign money into our elections? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 03:08 PM Response to Reply #52 |
54. LOL. So I assume you support the State Department's efforts |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 03:09 PM Response to Reply #54 |
55. Do you have proof? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 03:10 PM Response to Reply #55 |
56. Does Axelrod speak for the Obama administration or not? |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 03:13 PM Response to Reply #56 |
60. What does that have to do with the |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 03:15 PM Response to Reply #55 |
61. US Should Disclose Its Funding of Opposition Groups in Bolivia and Other Latin American Countries |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 03:23 PM Response to Reply #61 |
66. LOL! |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 03:29 PM Response to Reply #66 |
68. Asking someone to prove a negative is not a call for transparency. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 03:34 PM Response to Reply #68 |
70. What's the negative? |
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Milo_Bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 05:22 PM Response to Reply #70 |
109. Really? You don't understand this? |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 05:26 PM Response to Reply #109 |
112. Hmmm? |
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Milo_Bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 05:28 PM Response to Reply #112 |
114. Then why won't they stand behind it? |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 05:30 PM Response to Reply #114 |
116. Oh brother |
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Milo_Bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 05:43 PM Response to Reply #116 |
121. As usual, you are unable to support your claims. |
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cliffordu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 03:24 PM Response to Reply #43 |
67. QUICK!!!! HARD ASTERN!!!!! AXLEROD IS FINALLY |
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sulphurdunn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 03:03 PM Response to Original message |
51. Tell me if I have this straight. |
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harun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 07:07 AM Response to Reply #51 |
153. I would like to hear the answer to that as well. |
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Common Sense Party (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 12:28 PM Response to Reply #51 |
159. Yes, you're right. So should the Sierra Club not be allowed to buy |
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sulphurdunn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 01:57 PM Response to Reply #159 |
162. It should not. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 03:15 PM Response to Reply #159 |
171. Those organizations do |
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Common Sense Party (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 03:23 PM Response to Reply #171 |
174. Really? |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 03:26 PM Response to Reply #174 |
176. That is not a campaign ad. |
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Common Sense Party (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 03:24 PM Response to Reply #171 |
175. Are you sure? |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 03:28 PM Response to Reply #175 |
177. Who are they supporting? |
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Common Sense Party (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 03:29 PM Response to Reply #177 |
178. Are the Chamber of Commerce ads against or for a candidate? |
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Common Sense Party (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 04:05 PM Response to Reply #178 |
179. I'll answer for you. The ads are AGAINST the candidate they don't like. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 04:15 PM Response to Reply #179 |
180. The ad is from November 2009 when there was no campaign and |
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Common Sense Party (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 04:19 PM Response to Reply #180 |
182. So a campaign ad AGAINST a candidate is NOT a campaign ad? |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 04:24 PM Response to Reply #182 |
184. It is not an ad campaigning for or against a specific candidate or political party |
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Common Sense Party (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 04:28 PM Response to Reply #184 |
186. Can you give me an example of a U.S. Chamber of Commerce ad |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 04:48 PM Response to Reply #186 |
189. The ad says nothing about donating to defeat Bachman |
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Common Sense Party (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 04:52 PM Response to Reply #189 |
191. Whoops. You're right. I was seeing the web-ad below the video |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 04:57 PM Response to Reply #191 |
192. The Chamber |
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Common Sense Party (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 05:03 PM Response to Reply #192 |
194. So what exactly is Axelrod getting after them for? |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 05:05 PM Response to Reply #194 |
195. You know what |
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Common Sense Party (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 04:17 PM Response to Reply #177 |
181. Apparently, they also have campaign ads that SUPPORT candidates: |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 04:21 PM Response to Reply #181 |
183. Again, this is advocacy |
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Common Sense Party (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 04:26 PM Response to Reply #183 |
185. Yes, it's from 2008, during a political campaign, and they are endorsing |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 04:50 PM Response to Reply #185 |
190. An endorsement is not a funding political attacks on a candidate in support of another. |
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onehandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 03:30 PM Response to Original message |
69. The entire Bush Presidency was based on foreign money. |
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felix_numinous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 03:50 PM Response to Original message |
73. American people have the right to know. |
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Milo_Bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 04:10 PM Response to Original message |
79. Leave it to Democrats to F up an easily winning issue. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 04:25 PM Response to Reply #79 |
85. The Democrats didn't F up anything |
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Milo_Bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 05:00 PM Response to Reply #85 |
99. Yes, they completely F'd this up. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 05:04 PM Response to Reply #99 |
101. I like the ad |
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Milo_Bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 05:07 PM Response to Reply #101 |
103. Too bad it does far more harm to democrats. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 05:09 PM Response to Reply #103 |
104. Don't agree |
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Milo_Bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 05:14 PM Response to Reply #104 |
105. The reaction from DailyKos??? |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 05:19 PM Response to Reply #105 |
107. "A well known hangout for moderates and swing voters, right?" Got any more |
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Milo_Bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 05:23 PM Response to Reply #107 |
110. Ah yes, a link to DU.. Another source of Moderates and Swing voters. |
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24601 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 04:17 PM Response to Original message |
81. I don't know what country David thinks this is, but the burden of |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 04:22 PM Response to Reply #81 |
82. He lives in the |
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24601 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 04:35 PM Response to Reply #82 |
90. The questiuon wasn't where it is but where he thinks it is . n/t |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 04:36 PM Response to Reply #90 |
92. And the answer is still the same. n/t |
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24601 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 04:50 PM Response to Reply #92 |
95. Chilling thought then. Should the repugs get control of the House |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 04:57 PM Response to Reply #95 |
97. Oooh, scary. |
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24601 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 05:15 PM Response to Reply #97 |
106. No, because it's not a crime to be foreign born. The similarity is |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 05:22 PM Response to Reply #106 |
108. What? |
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Milo_Bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 05:24 PM Response to Reply #108 |
111. Why didn't Axelrod stand behind the evidence????? |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 05:28 PM Response to Reply #111 |
113. Maybe |
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Milo_Bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 05:29 PM Response to Reply #113 |
115. So he made himself look stupid to upset someone??? |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 05:32 PM Response to Reply #115 |
117. LOL! |
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Milo_Bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 05:43 PM Response to Reply #117 |
120. You do understand the accusation is a crime, right? |
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24601 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 11:33 PM Response to Reply #113 |
146. So why didn't the accuser produce it? This IS still the United |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 02:41 PM Response to Reply #146 |
167. Why |
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and-justice-for-all (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 04:29 PM Response to Original message |
87. The CoC is taking in foreign funds and channeling it to repuke |
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Common Sense Party (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 04:35 PM Response to Reply #87 |
188. How are they channeling it to repuke campaigns? |
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Exilednight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 04:30 PM Response to Original message |
88. What the fuck? |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 04:33 PM Response to Reply #88 |
89. Hmmmm? |
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Exilednight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 04:45 PM Response to Reply #89 |
94. Obama admitted to the secret deals ........... |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 04:54 PM Response to Reply #94 |
96. You respond by saying the administration admitted it? |
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Exilednight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 05:07 PM Response to Reply #96 |
102. Yes, the administration admitted it. but I can tell you didn't click the link. n/t |
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Democat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 05:33 AM Response to Reply #88 |
149. Republicans do it all day to Obama, but it's not ok for him to do to them? |
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Exilednight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 05:03 PM Response to Reply #149 |
193. That's what makes them republicans, if they didn't do it they would be called Democrats. n/t |
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Unvanguard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 04:58 PM Response to Original message |
98. That's not what he said. |
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rasputinkhlyst (49 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 07:03 PM Response to Original message |
138. Some have called for the abolition of the Dept of Education.... |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 09:03 PM Response to Original message |
141. WSJ editorial |
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TomCADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 09:21 PM Response to Original message |
142. Election 2010 Will Be Seen As Corporate Coup 2010 |
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w4rma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 11:02 PM Response to Original message |
145. Awesome! Sorry, trolls, the Chamber *is* taking foreign funds. It's proven, already. (nt) |
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DallasNE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 12:02 AM Response to Original message |
147. Here Bob Schieffer Is |
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flamingdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 12:21 AM Response to Original message |
148. REC nt |
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mdmc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 07:02 AM Response to Original message |
152. the business group and Republican operatives are “stealing our democracy.” |
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wordpix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 12:16 PM Response to Original message |
157. Federal Elections Campaign Act (FECA) info |
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melm00se (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 01:51 PM Response to Original message |
161. Not a big fan of the chamber |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 02:31 PM Response to Reply #161 |
166. I'm not a big fan of traitors |
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Hosnon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 02:42 PM Response to Original message |
168. I don't see anything wrong with requiring the Chamber to open its books to prove these allegations |
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