Poll: Majority of Obama contributors less likely to support Obama and Dems after Bush tax cut deal

[Freddie Stubbs]

Source: The Washington Post

By Greg Sargent

Okay, we now have our first poll measuring the impact of Obama's Bush tax cut on the Democratic base. Suffice it to say this is a major, make-or-break issue with them that could have real political ramifications for the President and Congressional Democrats.

The poll, done by the respected non-partisan firm Survey USA, surveyed over 1,000 people who contributed time or money to Obama in 2008, and found intense, overwhelming opposition among them to the tax cut deal. This supports the notion that there may indeed be a serious liberal revolt in reaction to it.

Indeed, majorities of people who contributed to Obama in 2008 say they are less likely to support Obama and Democrats in the wake of the deal, which extends all the Bush tax cuts in exchange for a 13 month unemployment extension and other concessions for Republicans.

I got an advance look at the poll, which was commissioned by MoveOn, and you can read the polling memo right here. The key findings:

Read more: http://voices.washingtonpost.com/plum-line/2010/12/poll_majority_of_obama_contrib.html

[TwilightGardener]

1. Not surprising. Nobody is happy with it.

[Salviati]

2. Except for the republicans that is.

They got wheat they wanted, and they get to look forward to beating this drum again in another 2 years.

[TwilightGardener]

6. Perhaps. It's certainly a loss, and no, I don't think Obama is a closet

Repub who "got what he wanted", as many say. No one wants to go back on a VERY VOCAL campaign promise, he knows it makes him look like a schmuck. But, he had to, and this is where we are. If he's the same guy who outmaneuvered the Clintons and got much of his agenda passed in his first two years, he's got what it takes to come back from this.

[xxqqqzme]

9. That was a campaign and those

were different voices from the voices 'advising' him now.

[No Elephants]

Sounded to me like Harry Reid was one of those who got the Dem Party to

outmaneuver the Clintons, though I thought like you do during the primary. Can't believe how naive I was then.

[No Elephants]

19. Sounded to me like Harry Reid was one o those who got the Dem Party to

outmaneuver the Clintons, though I thought like you did during the primary. Can't believe how naive I was then.

[ooglymoogly]

82. Blah, blah, blah, blah it is time to realize the record is broken. nt

[No Elephants]

13. If by Republicans, you mean Timmeh Geither, you're correct.

[KansDem]

63. And the richest 2% is happy too.

Maybe they'll trickle on us some more...

[rfranklin]

34. This a Big Fucking Deal!

To quote our Vice President.

[felinetta]

102. Really? I wonder if all the Americans who will continue to get unemployment checks will agree with

your unhappiness?

[Deep13]

3. And Obama opponents still think he's the antichrist. nt

[still_one]

4. This will lead to a trillion more in the deficit, and a call to cut entitlements /nt

[RKP5637]

8. Yep, another huge nail in the coffin for SS and Medicare. Hell, what's the

use in even having a country anymore. Just call it USA, Inc. People are in the way, a liability. Just let them all die off, starve, die from no medical treatment. This place is a shadow of what it was when I was a kid. We ain't seen nothing yet, when until the R's gain full control because too many Americans are too ignorant and apathetic to get what's going on ... dumbed down doesn't even describe many citizens anymore.

[saigon68]

30. OIL $ 90.00 A BARRELTODAY Enjoy your cat food Seniors

Nice freeze of SS benefits--- no inflation Ha Ha

I guess Karzai and the Drug Lords need the $$$$$$

"BRING EM ON" shouted the CLUELESS ONE

[No Elephants]

14. So, all is going according to plan then.

[newspeak]

83. exactly!!!!

The repugs also got a bonus on inheritance taxes. And, not all, will still be eligible for unemployment. The extension is only for those who were over so many weeks (there's a cut off). Also, what I heard on KO and Rachel Maddow--the child tax credit that Obama mentions is a repug created policy-so that shouldn't been included in concessions; and the student tax credit and earned income tax credit were already a part of the stimulus package. So, I don't know what he's talking about making these important comprises. To me, it looks like total capitulation.

This is going to harm our economy big time. I don't see very many great patriotic American billionaires willing to sacrifice for the sake of the country. Just a bunch of egocentric sociopaths with a King George complex.

[Ruperto31]

109. Exactly. nt

[RKP5637]

5. No more contributions from me. I quit when I finally realized it's all corp.

funded and I need my contributions more than them ... unless you're a zillionaire, none of them give F, no sense being deluded by the rhetoric IMO.

[xxqqqzme]

12. Better your contributions stay local anyway.

That is where they are needed.

[RKP5637]

21. Yep!!! Very true!!! n/t

[calimary]

73. No kidding. Focus on the farm team.

We need to grow some great and powerful and courageous new combatants who we can send up to the majors with pride and confidence.

[No Elephants]

15. They want you to donate so you feel a personal stake in his victory.

[leftynyc]

35. Precisely why I will not be donating

to his re-election. I feel shafted and I'll steer all my bucks locally.

[sasha031]

7. I don't know how I could support him now

[RKP5637]

10. I've had it with him. n/t

[Renew Deal]

11. UPDATE: The poll is BS

UPDATE, 12:18 p.m.: In fairness to the White House, it should be noted that this poll was taken yesterday in the lead up to the final announcement of the deal. So it's possible that some of the specifics of the deal -- the extension of unemployment benefits and other concessions Obama won -- might end up mitigating this somewhat. That said, it has been widely known for days that the centerpiece of this deal would be a temporary extension of all the cuts, and this poll does show overwhelming opposition to that central concession by Obama. I've edited the headline to reflect this.

[No Elephants]

17. That the poll was taken yesterday doesn't mean it's bs.

[Renew Deal]

20. Tell it to the writer.

[No Elephants]

23. The writer used a lot of weasel words.. You didn't. So, I told you and readers of this thread.

[DJ13]

27. UPDATE: The poll is BS..... OOPS, maybe NOT

UPDATE, 12:39 p.m.: I'm told the poll was actually conducted beginning at 6:17 p.m., around the time of Obama's announcement, and for a few hours after that. So it's perfectly possible this could partly reflect reaction to the deal itself.

[Hawkeye-X]

16. I am one of them.

I'm looking for a person who can challenge Obama from the left.

I'm tired of the tired old politics. It's time for some new blood.

Howard Dean was it in '04. We need another Howard Dean to inspire and embolden us.

And stays true to his word.

Hawkeye-X

[No Elephants]

22. The old politics was great. It the last 30 years, give or take, that stink.

Democrats as a whole slept too long, as did Americans as a whole. At this point, everything is so far right and so rigged, I have no idea what might take us left Maybe if we draft Sanders?

[sabrina 1]

71. Focusing on Congress. The presidency itself seems to be owned

entirely by Corporate America. It probably wouldn't matter who was president, s/he would be told how it is and either get with the program, or expect to be smeared out of office like Jimmy Carter or meet with an unfortunate accident or whatever they do to turn a perfectly reasonable sounding candidate who actually cared about the people, into a Corporate shill.

But Congress is harder. They have to buy hundreds of them. Which they have done but not all of them.

We have focused far too much energy, time and money on the presidential races while ignoring Congressional races where many times good progressives were beaten by corporate money and no help from the party leaders.

Now is the time to start. It won't matter who is in the WH, if Congress is loaded with fighting progressives who cannot be bought and don't really care about their next election or their rewards AFTER they leave.

It's up to the people really. I am at the point where I don't think I'll be paying much attention to the presidential race but will be looking for good progressives to support across the country. This is where we can exert some influence.

Think about it. If we had a real progressive Congress, Timmy Geithner would never have made it considering his shady past. Bernanke would be gone, Gates would not have made it past the first mention of his name.

We must change Congress. That is our only hope of removing Corporate influence from our political system. But it won't be easy, I know that.

[RKP5637]

26. Agree!!! All we're doing now is going down a rut. I'm tired of

trying to be a cheerleader.

[texastoast]

38. So how do we recognize the posers?

"Won't Get Fooled Again"
Written by Pete Townshend

We'll be fighting in the streets
With our children at our feet
And the morals that they worship will be gone
And the men who spurred us on
Sit in judgment of all wrong
They decide and the shotgun sings the song

I'll tip my hat to the new constitution
Take a bow for the new revolution
Smile and grin at the change all around me
Pick up my guitar and play
Just like yesterday
And I'll get on my knees and pray
We don't get fooled again
Don't get fooled again

Change it had to come
We knew it all along
We were liberated from the fall that's all
But the world looks just the same
And history ain't changed
'Cause the banners, they all flown in the last war

I'll tip my hat to the new constitution
Take a bow for the new revolution
Smile and grin at the change all around me
Pick up my guitar and play
Just like yesterday
And I'll get on my knees and pray
We don't get fooled again
Don't get fooled again
No, no!

I'll move myself and my family aside
If we happen to be left half alive
I'll get all my papers and smile at the sky
For I know that the hypnotized never lie

Do ya?


There's nothing in the street
Looks any different to me
And the slogans are replaced, by-the-bye
And the parting on the left
Is now the parting on the right
And the beards have all grown longer overnight

I'll tip my hat to the new constitution
Take a bow for the new revolution
Smile and grin at the change all around me
Pick up my guitar and play
Just like yesterday
Then I'll get on my knees and pray
We don't get fooled again
Don't get fooled again
No, no!

YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!

Meet the new boss
Same as the old boss

[valerief]

45. Howard Dean, Russ Feingold, Alan Grayson, Bernie Sanders, Anthony Weiner,

and more are viable. Maybe not to the puppeteers but to Americans they're viable.

[StarsInHerHair]

80. or hers

nt

[Major Hogwash]

18. Quickest poll bashing a Democrat President in the history of the United States

And why am I not surprised?

The MSM will eat this up.
Enjoy your Christmas holidays, they're going to skewer Obama!!

[w4rma]

24. He deserves it. (nt)

[bowens43]

25. he needs to be skewered.

he was elected and control of congress was given to Democrats because the people wanted his stated policies enacted. He caved on every single issue.

[aquart]

67. Pity he's not a Democratic president.

[Zhade]

75. Fuck that lying asshole.

NT!

[Iowa]

87. +1

[Ruperto31]

110. +2

[defendandprotect]

28. So we're going to borrow billions more from China to pay for tax cuts for the RICH?????

But that doesn't add to the deficit, of course --

nor do extensive harm to American citizens --

to infrastructure -- ????

PLEASE ... Can we get a RECALL on Obama?

We need to ship this entire Obama administration out and replace it with

liberal Democrats who want to work for the people -- not corporate interests!!

[galileoreloaded]

33. Actually, only about a third from China. The other third from the Japanese....

and the other third from American savers via dollar devaluation.

Like an STD, the gift that keeps on giving.

[defendandprotect]

39. "STD" .... funny --

if it wasn't so outrageously frightening and sad --

presume that's "STATE Transmitted Disease"?


:)

[pokercat999]

66. Actually borrowing more form China isn't so bad as we're going

to default on that debt anyway.

[zanana1]

29. I don't think Obama cares about that.

He has said repeatedly that he wouldn't mind a one-term presidency. I think that explains alot of his actions; he has nothing to lose.

[saigon68]

31. Mr One Term getting ready to join the Corporate World

Maybe a stint at Walmart on their Corporate Board

[Celtic Raven]

32. Don't forget the speaker fees

once he hits the circuit.

$$$$$ to burn.

[AllyCat]

36. A "serious liberal revolt"? Why is this kind of thing always "liberal"?

Isn't it just people? People are sick and tired of paying for the rich to use everything and provide nothing?

[yurbud]

37. your photo of arne duncan in sig line is perfect example of Obama's unilateral surrender

to conservatives on some issues.

[defendandprotect]

41. It's not "surrender" ... Obama has a very firm backbone of steel when working for coporates......

This idea that Obama is somehow weak or mislead is nonsense --

the FOXES in this administration were all picked by Obama -- the deals made

were made by Obama -- including the attempts at new trade agreements -- !!



Did someone misdirect Obama as to the back door meetings with Big Pharma

and the private Health Care industry? Where single payer was sold out and

taken off the table -- and where he insured that Medicare could not negotiate

on drug prices???

As Pelosi told us not so long ago ...

"Obama was for a lot of things when he was campaigning ... that he is no longer for" --

[texastoast]

Did he ever have a soul to sell?

I surely thought he did, but now I'm really beginning to wonder.

[defendandprotect]

69. The question I ask these days about Obama is ....

"How can Obama sleep at night?" --

:blush:

[pnorman]

74. "Did he ever have a soul to sell?"

http://leishacamden.blogspot.com/2008/10/not-that-it-matters.html

[defendandprotect]

42. Arne Duncan and the attack on public education ... with Obama's support ...

I had missed that one and imo it's a stealth attack on public education

which the public doesn't seem to have figured out yet --

We've had Madfloridian to keep us posted on it here --

how often has the press spoken of this?


Ugh!!

[LibraLiz1973]

40. They really needed a poll to figure that out?

:eyes:

They could have just looked on this very board.

[harun]

46. Lol, no, no they didn't.

[valerief]

43. More polls that state the obvious. Of course, the obvious doesn't get picked up by Fox

and that's all that matters in the USA. That's the ONLY media that counts.

America sucks.

[defendandprotect]

51. Fox, O'Reilly, Beck -- all losing viewers steadily ... + KO and Maddow are picking up viewers..

Stop worrying about Fox --

[valerief]

54. The stupid is too strong in the US. It's waaaaay too strong. People are PROUD of

not worrying, not learning, not paying attention, not caring. PROUD. Proud of TEH STUPID.

:banghead:

[defendandprotect]

68. Maybe this will make you feel a little better ...

:)


.03.10 - 11:07 AM
Maybe Ugly Paranoia Doesn't Sell So Hot After All


Hey, some vaguely, slightly good news! Latest cable ratings show Rachel Maddow's viewership up 20%, and Glenn Beck's - minus his 140 advertisers - down a whopping 36%. So the loonies get the press, but not the viewers? It's a start.

--Abby Zimet
http://www.commondreams.org/

On left -- fourth or fifth article down --



I do think we all need our BS meters turned up waaaay higher --

Think a lot of people aren't yet on the internet -- and dependent upon corporate-press.

But, keep in mind that there is only one way that the right wing can rise and that's by

political violence -- stolen elections -- and lies.

We've had more than 50 years of in plein air violence by right wing taking not only

JFK but our "people's" government with him and on and on -- they took out all liberal

leadership and then commenced to knock out liberal leadership even before it got a chance

to rise.

Also keep in mind that everything the right wing has is bought and paid for -- wouldn't

exist otherwise. That includes the GOP giving start up funding for the Christian Coalition

in the 1980's!! And, Richard Scaife funding Dobson's group - and other right wing wealthy

funding Bauer's group.

With the death of Wm. Buckley/CIA we've discovered that CIA was funding campaigns of right

wing Congress members -- two we know about are Sen. Strom Thurmond and Rep. Gerry Ford.

Pat Buchanan also got money from the CIA -- as well as Sen. Jesse Helms. Presumed to be

others, but they're the only names I'm aware of. CIA took money from any right wing source --

and that included KKK and Nazis.

Today's T-baggers are funded by Koch Bros/oil industry -- and run out of a PR firm which

ensures they get attention.

The NRA was moved into the political arena to target liberal and moderate Democrats and they

were very successful at it over decades.

How about the GOP's "pro-lifers"? Who funded all of that? Recently, a guest on Hartmann

was relating that they used to recruit clinic demonstrators at the Methadone clinics and PAY

THEM!

Buck up ... as Cheney was fond of telling us -- it's all fakery --

"Right wing creates the reality and the rest of you live it!"

:)

[valerief]

70. That's good news. I want to see Ed, Keith, Rachel, and Lawrence viewership up 3000%!!!!! nt

[defendandprotect]

72. I'll be watching, too -- haven't seen much of O'Donnell yet -- and love Schultz!

:)

[Dr.Phool]

44. But it's a known fact that 437% of liberal Dems support the prez.

It must be true. I read it 437 times per day on DU!

[valerief]

76. Liberals always support non-liberals. It's a liberal cornerstone.

"Thank you, sir. Hit me again."
:spank:

[Ruperto31]

111. And don't call him "Barry." Them's the rulez.

DU style.

[bos1]

47. Obama doesn't govern by poll or which way the wind blows

he governs what is in the best long-term interests of the USA and progress

[defendandprotect]

52. Obama governs by what is good for the corporates/elites he serves ....

that couldn't be more obvious --

My question re Obama now is: "How does Obama sleep at night?"

We're all aware of the growing suffering of our American citizens -- and the

desperate need for MEDICARE FOR ALL --

for just one issue

[Heywood J]

77. Really?

Blowing a trillion dollars of your money and my money so that Rush Limbaugh, Bill O'Reilly, Sarah Palin, etc. can have tax cuts is best for the USA and progress? Did you really just say that?

[bos1]

90. sorry that your lonely internet commentary doesn't compete with leading progress of the USA

but it just doesn't

[Heywood J]

96. Welcome to ignore.

Repeating slogans doesn't constitute discussion worthwhile of my reading.

[Dappleganger]

103. Then he should have run as a republican...

so he wouldn't be lying to the American people, and we could have run a real democrat in his place.

[hatrack]

48. Uh, yeah. Duh.

:eyes:

[defendandprotect]

49. OK, base .... we're a huge liberal voing bloc - what's our next move?

WHEN do the discussions begin -- and WHERE do the discussions begin?

Do we need an "After-DU" website or is it going to be done here?

The poll shows clearly that these contributors are deeply opposed (74%) to a deal with Republicans to extend the Bush-era tax breaks for those making over $250,000 a year. The depth of opposition to a deal is severe with former Obama contributors saying that they are less likely (57%) to support Democrats who support this deal in 2012.


A majority of the former Obama contributors surveyed also say that the President's deal also makes them less likely (51%) to contribute to his reelection campaign in 2012.

And if SOROS and/or David Brock get a new organization together to raise money for liberal

Democrats I won't give anything unless I'm sure that none of the money would go to Obama.

I'd have to be positive about that!!

[Alhena]

50. Honestly, this is the "no contribute/campaign" breaking point with me as well ...

I both contributed and campaigned for Obama last time- with near-fervent enthusiasm.

I will still vote for him in 2012, but I won't contribute my time or money otherwise.

I still think he's a very capable and intelligent man, but this issue demonstrates that he just doesn't get it. You could make arguments that he did before this, but this just boggles the mind.

The Bush-Obama tax cuts. Jeez.

[defendandprotect]

55. No -- I think ....

it's you who aren't "getting it" --

Obama isn't simply confused, or ignorant -- he knows full what what he is doing.

And he has quite a strong backbone when when it comes to making back room deals

with Big Pharma and private health care industry!!

A man of steel when moving conservative issues -- like tax cuts for the rich!!

Remember, Obama has two years to go --

how much more damage can he do?

Basically, we need a RECALL -- except we have Biden in the wings who has been calling

on Israel for a year now to attack Iran! Biden says: "Isarel would be justified in

bombing Iran!"


We have an entire administration to get rid of --!!

All FOXES guarding the hen house --


We need liberal Democrats to begin to come forward to offer a complete challenge to Obama

and his pro-corporate administration!!

[Iowa]

88. Well said.

[Unvanguard]

53. What a shocker. n/t

[paulk]

56. this is what happens when you nominate a political naif

like Obama...

I had some hopes that he would have gotten ahead of the learning curve by now

[dd2003]

57. Sad day indeed

That noise you hear is the gasp of hope that has just left the world

[indie522a]

58. Not great situation

[LeftinOH]

59. We don't have a Parliament, folks- jumping ship is not an option, and...

a primary challenge means losing the White House in 2012.

People who vow to vote third party are throwing their votes away. People who think a Democratic primary challenger could actually win the WH are delusional. Divided we may be on an increasing number of issues, but withdrawing support (meaning= votes) means losing to the Republicans.

[kenfrequed]

78. Unfortunately kind of true

I don't want it to be true, but it kind of is. The question is what can be done about this?

Maybe every member of DU should run for an office, no matter how small. Personally I plan on running for some damned elected office in the next cycle, I don't care if its dogcatcher.

[StarsInHerHair]

81. I don't believe that, we can do something that's a 1st we just have to be

determined, grimly determined. Change for the better has ALWAYS been a fight: to found this nation, to end slavery, women's voting, civil rights.......so long as we know the general pattern of how thing got done we can do something that has not been done yet. And I'm the last person you'd call a pollyanna, so.....

[nashville_brook]

84. Actually, if congressional dems want to stay in congress, they'll distance themselves,

From this train wreck immediately.

[Chan790]

108. and...they are. n/t

[newspeak]

85. Please, don't insult us with the bullshite

It is better not to pass a bill that will do more harm than to compromise it away. And I'll say again, I voted for Clinton for two main reasons, to keep NAFTA-GATT from passing and to investigate corruption (Iran-Contra, BCCI) into, what Casolero called the Octopus. Nafta was Poppy's baby, and it seems it didn't matter whether he was in or Clinton at the time.

I will vote for any democrat who will stand with mainstreet, will stand with labor, will stand for people over corporations. And, right now, with the Goldman Sucks crew, it isn't Obama.

[defendandprotect]

93. Obviously, support is going to be withdrawn .....that's quite clear....

and 28 million expected voters didn't come out in 2010 ...!!!

So the question of what to do and what we can do begins to rest much

more heavily on all those who want to continue to do what we've always done.

Don't think we've had enough experience with primary challenges to know what

would happen -- what if Sen. Bernie Sanders ran?

Sanders is a bigger and better DEMOCRAT than many of our Democrats!

We could draft him and have him run also on the Democratic ticket --

Give him a liberal Democrat as a running mate -- Grayson would be my choice.


Then let's begin to think of who else in Congress we trust -- or elsewhere -- ?

Michael Moore would take the VP spot -- and we can also slap a Dem label on him --


Sanders/Moore -- why not?

[Liberalynn]

99. We could loose either way.

IMHO Its very possible Obama himself might not win. The Pukes don't like him despite his giving them virtually everything they hsve asked for, now a pretty good chunk of his own party doesn't like him, and I truly don't believe there are enough independents to swing the tide back in his favor.

He might win only cause people are choosing the lesser of two evils, but even that's not assured. As a bumper sticker I read once said. "Never underestimate the power of stupid people in groups." They just might be dumb enough to vote for Palin.

So either way we are screwed. For me I'd rather see a fresh face Dem nominee. One who will run and at least make a genuine attempt at putting forth Democratic policies rather than just dismissing them as "purist."

[Chan790]

107. Seemingly a wash.

I'm sorry, it's a bridge too far for me at long last. I'd rather primary and lose the WH than support this coward.

It's a non-issue anyways...there is nobody viable on the other side. They might have seeming support, but when the individual GOPers are put up on poll, they all lose and they do just as badly versus generic Dem as they do against Obama. This next election will be decided at the DNC convention. It's not 1980 anymore.

[Name removed]

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[PuppyBismark]

61. That's it for me!

I went out every Sunday for Obama for 8 months, gave considerable funds to the campaign, and now I am completely disappointed. There is no way I will spend any time helping him, and I will do whatever I can for a good Democratic challenger to him for the next election. This president did not bring the changes we expected. He is not the leader we expected, and he has not been the president we thought we were electing. Giving the rich the one half trillion dollar tax break is the breaking point for me.

Clinton knew how to deal with the GOP, Obama just gives and gives to the GOP. I'm done, he will not get my vote even if I have to sit out the next election. Actions have consequences and this is my consequence.

Good luck America for the next 6 to 10 years!

:grr: :grr: :grr:

[ProSense]

62. Finally, 67% of former Obama contributors surveyed said they support

Finally, 67% of former Obama contributors surveyed said they support
extending tax cuts for those making less than $250,000 a year.

PDF

Depending on when the poll was taken, that's important. I notice they didn't ask if they support allowing all the tax cuts to expire. That would provide context.

[BrklynLiberal]

64. ..but..but..but I thought the majority were still supportive of him...according

to some polls....

[GreenTea]

65. Obama knows in 2 years most will forget & vote for him-not wanting to see a republican as president

[Iowa]

89. I won't forget.

[defendandprotect]

94. Me, either --

[cyr330]

79. Add me to the list

His campaign isn't getting a fucking penny from me again. All my money will be given to Moveon.Org from now on. I'm done with that asshole.

[glinda]

86. No support equals Palin or a Repub. Unless there is a miracle.

[yodermon]

91. wait til Friday's Gallup daily tracking poll. n/t

[Rex]

92. This is like the mistake they made that cost us the Nov. elections.

Look, just because Dick Cheney can shoot someone in the face and get them to apologize for being in the way of the pellets, doesn't mean it will work for the DLC.

[yurbud]

95. IRONY: the whole reason the DLC branch of the party exists is to supposedly collect the corporate

bucks, in part by carrying their water and dissing traditional Democratic constituencies like minorities and unions.

Maybe Obama will actually hear us if we protest with our checkbooks and credit cards.

[greymattermom]

97. when they call...

During campaign season I get 2 or 3 calls a night from various Dem organizations. Next time I'll tell them to call some 2 percenters. Those people owe them support. Maybe they can even collect on the investment. You know the rich will be able to afford more campaign contributions, and you know, of course, that they're all Dems.

[saigon68]

100. You forgot the Sarcasm Tag

[TexasObserver]

98. Sad is the leader who doesn't know which side he's supposed to be on.

[felinetta]

101. Good. Enjoy Repig rule when they also get to pick more Supreme Court judges. Hope you all enjoy it!

[Still a Democrat]

104. Probably said the same about HCR

Time heals wounds.

[rayofreason]

105. What I worry about...

...is that this administration has finally moved Social Security into the category of just another tax/gov. program that is subject to all of the tinkering and political machinations we see with other programs. It is the beginning of the end for Social Security.

[mvd]

106. Yes, I'd like to pass off my disappointment on just..

being too willing to compromise with people that have destructive plans for the country. But things like the nominations of Geithner and Summers, the Social Security commission that had a deficit hawk Dem and a conservative Repuke, not bothering to try to shape the health care law into something more favorable (in fact, the Senate Finance Committee bill seemed favored from the start,) looking the other way on the Patriot Act and Bush crimes, not supporting a moratorium on foreclosures - all of this makes me wonder how progressive the President is to begin with.