US scientists create mice from two fathers

[kpete]

Source: AFP

US scientists create mice from two fathers

(AFP) – 2 hours ago

WASHINGTON — US scientists have used stem cell technology to create mice from two fathers, an advance that they say could help preserve endangered species and even help same-sex couples have their own genetic children one day.

According to the study published Wednesday in the journal Biology of Reproduction, reproductive scientists in Texas were able to manipulate cells from a male (XY) mouse fetus to produce an induced pluripotent stem (iPS) cell line.

These iPS cells are adult cells that have undergone some genetic reprogramming in order to enter an embryonic stem cell-like state.

Some of the cells that were grown from this new line spontaneously lost their Y chromosome, turning them into XO cells.

Read more: http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5gbOQUbE63Vl31COrpP7FzSMz-N9w?docId=CNG.5ecbda1132f2622b919e251d461cca6c.7b1

[aquart]

1. The patriarchal ideal.

[quakerboy]

6. I am curious as to your statement

This would seem to me to be the opposite of the patriarchal ideal. It would seem to complicate leadership if both parents are the patriarch. Plus 2 fathers kinda complicates the whole tracking lineage via the father part of things.

[defendandprotect]

8. misplaced --

[quakerboy]

9. ah. but since you agree with the statement

can you expand on it in relation to my question?

[defendandprotect]

24. Haven't read the article thoroughly enough ...

but my original humorous reaction to it is the effort by patriarchy to

find themselves a womb --

Without reading the article, there is also the question of what the future of

these all male creations may be --

I recall a long while back that they were working to find the "trigger" which

moves the female model which is the way life begins to create a male.

They did find it and succeeded at "triggering" a male -- however, the males

couldn't reproduce.

It's all part of the same old story -- the patriarchal war on women and nature --

Well covered by Mary Shelley in "Frankenstein" -- and even better covered by

Mel Brooks in his "Franenstein" --

The first question that this "research" raises for me is ... what the hell?

How about finding a way to implant tooth buds to create new teeth rather than

the implants being used now --

Any who had five minutes to spend thinking about this could I'm sure think of a

few dozen more worthy efforts for research!

Is this really the way our tax dollars should be spent?

[defendandprotect]

7. Exactly ..... 100000% - K/R

I was going to post something like that, but you did it so well --

I'll just recommend your post!

:)

[Hawkeye-X]

2. Interesting. I just finished reading "The Cure"

and it definetely discusses iPS cell line, but only in terms of espionage and investment.

[Gore1FL]

3. Interesting that the process produces females.

Two Woman can have a daughter. Two men can have a daughter.

Adding same-sex Daughters to the genetic 50%/50% probability of gender in heterosexual children, one thing is clear: In about 100 years it is going to be raining chicks.

[Chipper Chat]

4. Sarah Palin's head just exploded.

The fundies will SURELY now want to all move to Oklahoma and South Carolina and declare them separate countries.

[ruggerson]

5. Well there goes the "they can't procreate" argument

n/t

[SecularMotion]

10. Reproductive scientists create mice from 2 fathers

Source: Medical Daily

Using stem cell technology, reproductive scientists in Texas, led by Dr. Richard R. Berhringer at the M.D. Anderson Cancer Center, have produced male and female mice from two fathers.

The study was posted today (Wednesday, December 8) at the online site of the journal Biology of Reproduction.

The achievement of two-father offspring in a species of mammal could be a step toward preserving endangered species, improving livestock breeds, and advancing human assisted reproductive technology (ART). It also opens the provocative possibility of same-sex couples having their own genetic children, the researchers note.

In the work reported today, the Behringer team manipulated fibroblasts from a male (XY) mouse fetus to produce an induced pluripotent stem (iPS) cell line. About one percent of iPS cell colonies grown from this XY cell line spontaneously lost the Y chromosome, resulting in XO cells. The XO iPS cells were injected into blastocysts from donor female mice. The treated blastocysts were transplanted into surrogate mothers, which gave birth to female XO/XX chimeras having one X chromosome from the original male mouse fibroblast.

Read more: http://www.medicaldaily.com/news/20101208/4511/reproductive-scientists-create-mice-from-2-fathers.htm

[newfie11]

11. So both rodents need to pay child support n/t

[bitchkitty]

12. Mickey has two daddies! n/t

[Hugin]

13. I'm sorry... I read that headline three times as:

"Republican scientists create mice from 2 fathers"

It kind of put me into oxymoron overload, or something.

I'm going to have to go lay down for a bit...

[valerief]

18. We know which ones (Repubs or mice) are the real vermin. nt

[wilt the stilt]

14. Christian right plans protest

In a related story the Christian right is planning to start protesting as this is against God and nature.

[rfranklin]

16. But it shoots a hole in the "marriage is for reproduction" meme...

They are screwed!

[AlbertCat]

20. this is against God and nature.

Yeah... like antibiotics and vaccines. Not to mention sun loving impatiens and winter tomatoes.

[indimuse]

15. waiting for comment from o'donnell...

;)

[justiceischeap]

17. The headline is still kind of a misnomer

They still needed the female mouse to carry the babies. I want to see scientists create the ability for men to CARRY children. Now, that would be fun.

[AlbertCat]

19. I want to see scientists create the ability for men to CARRY children.

You just pick 'em up and put 'em on your shoulders, doncha?


I suppose you could just gab 'em by one leg and cart them around.

[justiceischeap]

21. Ha! Yes, you could carry them by one leg

But that's not what I meant and you know it... ;)

[goforit]

22. Too much time on their hands! Scientist with out morals!

[David Zephyr]

26. Saving endangered species is "moral".

.

[KamaAina]

23. Santorum warned us!

Mouse on mouse action! :sarcasm:

[David Zephyr]

25. Fascinating. Great scientific work.

K&R.

[FLPanhandle]

27. Somewhere a fundamentalist's head is exploding

"and even help same-sex couples have their own genetic children one day."

So much for the marriage is only for those who can have children argument.