Fox News Team Severely Beaten, Hospitalized In Cairo

[PoliticAverse]

Source: Deadline.com

FOX News Channel's veteran foreign correspondent Greg Palkot and his camerman Olaf Wiig have suffered severe injuries in Cairo while covering the unrest in the Egypt capital. Palkot was badly beaten and Wiig has a possible broken jaw after being attacked by pro-Hosni Mubarak supporters yesterday.


Read more: http://www.deadline.com/2011/02/fox-news-team-severely-beaten-hospitalized-in-cairo/

[Gato Moteado]

1. the pro-hosni crowd didn't recognize them as friendlies i guess.......

.....i wonder if fox will change its spin now.

[lillypaddle]

9. Well, Hannity hasn't changed his ...

what an asshole. But sorry for the news crew.

[pscot]

48. Agreed

Fox sux but these guys are just reporters doing a dangerous job. They're brave men and I wish them well.

[DallasNE]

89. I Agree Completely

Now let's see how Fox reports this. Will they mention it was pro-Mubarak people that did this and if they do will they make like it was rogue supporters or paid thugs.

[Can of Whoop-ass]

47. Did any of them

lose their heads after 9 years of FOX bashing Islamists for everything?

[lark]

196. If they aren't ultra rich, they don't matter

to Faux. This will mean nothing to Murdoch or Ailes.

[provis99]

2. that's absolutely horrible!

I think O'Reilly should replace Palkot in Egypt...

[Kali]

4. !

:spray:

[CTyankee]

14. O'Reilly didn't even go entertain the troops like Al Franken did.

Nopers. He sat on his butt, just like Limbaugh, while Al made trip after trip...

[SnakeEyes]

36. To his credit Bill O has been to both Iraq and Afghanistan

First trip in 2007. And he does do fundraisers and gives to military causes

[CTyankee]

46. My bad. Thanks. I thought he had sat this whole thing out.

I must be confusing him with Limbaugh...sorry, folks...

[GSLevel9]

58. actually Limbaugh went to Afghanistan in 2005. nt

[CTyankee]

60. Realy? Franken must have goaded him into it. Al was pretty hard on this.

I'm surprised to learn this...

[24601]

77. While it makes for a few digs, the right actually appreciate the

troops. For all their faults, not supporting our folks in uniform isn't one of them.

[heliarc]

138. Except on key Veterans affairs votes...

just sayin

[ronnie624]

157. No they don't.

They don't even think about "the troops", unless the issue is thrust before them by corporate propaganda. And then, they are simply bamboozled into equating the support of militarism with "supporting the troops". As another poster mentioned, key veterans issues are not even dimly considered by rightists.

[CTyankee]

182. Do you think it's because they think the rank and file military depend too much on

"government handouts"?

[No Elephants]

164. Disagree, as to RWers w/power.. They support "our" MIC and its $$ and give lip service to

the troops and jingoism, while opposing veterans' benefits.

[Enthusiast]

186. Plus one

You are right on, on your assessment of the RWers. To them the troops are nothing but cannon fodder.

[lark]

197. The right "SAYS" they support the troops

except when the troops need medical care, or improved armour, or the ability to spend a year at home before being redeployed - then they don't give a shit. They never support or help the people fighting the war, just support the war vendors. They are mainly for "all war all the time" due to the enriching factor this has on their big campaign contributors like Lockheed, Halliburton, etc.

[loudsue]

184. Probably to try out some young Afghani boys.

Either that, or to buy his drugs right off the farm. He's a slime ball.

[Enthusiast]

187. Yup!

Say it loud, Sue!

[Dokkie]

67. like it makes a difference

when they travel to these wars zones, they are heavily protected and stay at the safest of safe spots.

[Enthusiast]

185. Fuck Bill O!

I mean that.

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

15. Indeed. I hear he's a real tough guy. nt

[felinetta]

16. We know Hannity won't go. He never got waterboarded as he promised.

[Cid_B]

98. Ahem...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x2649725

[curiousdemo]

50. Great Idea......

:toast:

[sce56]

104. LardA$$ Limbaugh should go to Egypt too!

[sofa king]

3. I am sorry to hear it.

Fox News is a crap propaganda organ unworthy of the word "news," but the people who risk their lives to document this event are not deserving of scorn... or beatings.

[kiranon]

7. Agree. n/t

[SpankMe]

33. Double agree. n/t

[stevedeshazer]

38. Triple agree

[laylah]

102. Ditto! n/t

[jobycom]

168. Well said. nt

[tpsbmam]

192. Total agreement. Well said. nt

[Dennis Donovan]

5. I don't care whauch network they're from - ALL journalists should be OFF LIMITS!

:grr::grr::grr:

[W T F]

10. The problem with that is.................

I would not exactly call people work for Fox "journalist"

[former9thward]

23. So you think the thugs should be able to pick and choose who they beat up.

Know where you are coming from.

[W T F]

43. Nope! just saying that if just Journalist were off limits, Fox News people couldn't make the cut

that's all,....just sayin

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[The Doctor.]

128. Question;

Do you condone or condemn the attacks on the Fox News crew?

Seriously.

[cali]

173. and you are just saying wrong

because the guy who was beat up has a distinguished career as a journalist.

[boppers]

177. Somebody can have a distinguished career as a doctor, before they sell penis enlargement pills.

A history does not excuse present works.

[cali]

180. have you watched his reporting on Fox?

If not, do you really believe you're qualified to decide he's not really a reporter? This is just ridiculous. Clearly the guy is an experienced journo.

[boppers]

191. Extending *cough* the penis pill metaphor...

Even if a doctor is doing *medically valid* work on Penis pills, well, they're still doing it for a sleazy outfit.

[msanthrope]

24. I find this an ugly response at an inappropriate time. n/t

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[Dennis Donovan]

29. They're credentialed - they are NON-combatants - they should be left alone...

NO matter if they work for Al Jaz or NewsMax (:puke:) - keep your mitts off them!

[rfranklin]

61. almost no one respects journalists...it's one of the most dangerous professions...

when you are talking about hot spots like Egypt.
more at---
http://cpj.org/killed/index.php

[KurtNYC]

92. It happens here too

in Los Angeles in 1992 they shot the news helicopters down.

And it cuts both ways as Reginald Denny got beaten up the way he did because of the TV cameras that were present.

[Codeine]

40. One doubts they were targeted for their perceived bias.

Hell, that might have been a point in their favor with the rent-a-mob had it been known.

[backwoodsbob]

66. how about you hop a plane

and be a journalist.

I don't give a shit what channel they are from..NO reporter deserves to be beaten

[emilyg]

85. +100

[W T F]

133. I agree no journalist deserves to be beaten.....

My argument is that Fox News reporters are not journalist. and I'm not saying that they deserve to be beaten even if they aren't. Someone here assumed that I Implied that, and I didn't. Do I make myself clear?

[NuclearDem]

134. Working for Fox doesn't automatically make you 'not a journalist'

Could be some of those people were just guys who needed a job in the journalism field...and only Fox was available.

Not every grunt, every reporter, and every camera crew is a Fox propagandist dedicated to perverting America. There are much worse.

Thank you very much for clarifying though. :)

[primavera]

143. It doesn't automatically make you not an astronaut, either

But it does mean that you are not being employed as one. Faux News keeps far too close a rein on the content they allow to go out on their network to ever allow any actual journalism to take place. It may well be that there are people who are trained as journalists who work for Faux News, but since such people are not allowed to practice their profession while in Faux News' employ, it doesn't really make much difference what their profession is.

[NuclearDem]

146. I'm just glad neither of us are in charge of determining who is and isn't a journalist

Because, honestly, no matter how the information is spun by the anchors, it's just nice to see SOME information come out of that blackout.

I consider everyone from AJE all the way down to people on Twitter as reporters. That's what the Fox crew was in there doing--reporting. I don't think either of us are going to convince each other one way or the other, so I think we may have to agree to disagree on this one. I'm just happy you're not one of the ones cheering the beatings :)

[primavera]

150. Frankly, I take more seriously the reports of the twitterers

At least they aren't trained professionals getting paid to warp and distort the facts. I am a little hypersensitive on this as I did my masters in public policy and actually took courses in what the university called "strategic communication," but which were, by any objective definition, propaganda courses. We were taught all sorts of tricks on how to prove that black is white, night is day, and the moon is made of green cheese. I've become so jaded, I hardly believe anything I read anymore unless I can see the complete methodology of how the raw data was gathered.

[Throd]

154. What is the methodology of a tweet?

[boppers]

178. Working for Al Queda doesn't automatically make you a terrorist.

Could be some of those people were just guys who needed a job in the activism field...and only Al Queda was available.

Not every grunt, every reporter, and every camera crew is a Al Queda propagandist dedicated to perverting America. There are much worse.

Thank you very much for clarifying though.

:evilgrin:

Yeah, I see that failed logic.

[Enthusiast]

188. They most certainly

aren't journalists.

[quakerboy]

147. I agree, I think. No Reporter deserves to be beaten because they are a reporter.

but I do wonder why a reporter is untouchable over anyone else. I generally believe that no person deserves to be beaten, regardless of whether they are a reporter or not.

[lonestarnot]

74. I have the same fucking problem.

But, they are human as far as I can tell, and I hate to see humans treat other humans in this manner even in sport. (I didn't watch the video) So fuck those paid hate'n beaters!

[primavera]

121. No problem - Faux News doesn't employ any journalists - n/t

[NuclearDem]

122. Then who exactly were those people beaten up in Egypt?

:eyes:

[primavera]

127. Employees of a foreign corporation

... that dedicates itself to spreading propaganda prejudicial to their interests.

Before you jump down my throat, I'm not advocating violence against Faux News propagandists. But clearly their assailants perceived that these guys were not objective, impartial journalists there to observe and report, nor is it unreasonable that they should believe as much. It therefore does not follow that a blanket ban on violence towards journalists would hinder them from attacking Faux News propagandists.

[NuclearDem]

130. We know Fox is full of propagandists

But the average Egyptian? I doubt it.

They saw a camera, and a guy with a microphone talking into the camera. Journalist. They beat them up because they were journalists. I don't know how many times I can say this, but the average Wehrmacht Private isn't the same as Hitler.

Hell, maybe a few of these people just wanted to get into journalism and move on to something else...I doubt any of them are the true believers in the propaganda.

[primavera]

137. Perhaps not

And again, I'm not suggesting that Faux News employees are any less deserving of protection from assault than anyone else is; I'm only saying that I don't think they are deserving of more protection than anyone else is.

The original poster was suggesting that journalists should be understood to have blanket protection by virtue of their profession, something akin to the blanket immunity that we afford to diplomats. Personally, I would agree. Journalism, like diplomacy, serves a vital common good, i.e., keeping the public informed, and that does deserve special recognition. But consider, if you will, someone who enters the US as a diplomat but, in reality, is an assassin. That person cannot go out and kill people and then invoke diplomatic immunity because, no matter what they choose to call themselves or what kind of passport they may have, they clearly are not here as a diplomat. Their function is therefore not protected and they are subject to the same hazards and risks that everyone else faces. What Faux News does is substantively no different than what Leni Riefenstahl and the Nazi Ministry of Propaganda did. If Leni Riefenstahl described herself as a journalist entitled to special protections afforded to them, would we credit her with those protections simply because she claimed to be a journalist?

[NuclearDem]

142. The average camera crew or reporter in Cairo isn't Leni Riefenstahl though

They're just that--reporters and camera crews. And Fox has been blaming this on the Mubarak thugs anyway, so I don't see them exactly propagandizing this one way or the other (no more than the rest of the MSM is).

Propagandist is a subjective term as well. One man's propagandist is another man's journalist. Just because we don't like the message spun by the anchors or the higher-ups, doesn't mean the reporters on the ground in Cairo aren't journalists. I'd be singing a different tune if it were some of the worst Fox offenders involved, but these guys are journalists.

Your logic falls right apart there--there's no subjective view of someone who kills another. Whether you call him a hero, freedom fighter, murderer, or assassin, it's just that--he killed someone. In no way can you confuse a murderer with a diplomat.

[primavera]

145. Admitted

The distinction between propagandist and journalist is obviously more subjective than that between assassin and diplomat - I chose a starkly black and white analogy in an effect to illustrate the point I was trying to make - but I don't think that the existence of a subjective component invalidates the argument entirely. Not every person who calls himself a journalist is, in fact, a journalist simply because s/he chooses to call him/herself such.

[NuclearDem]

148. Point taken

In times of crisis overseas, I tend to err on the side of caution when it comes to journalists...the free flow of information out of a lot of these places is so restricted I'm willing to give a lot of leeway to anyone who has the courage and the ability to report from it. Which is exactly how I feel about this Fox crew.

[primavera]

151. Nice chatting with you

Have a good evening! :hi:

[cali]

174. gad I hate stupid stinking mindless dogshit

go ahead, tell me this guy isn't a journalist:

Greg Palkot serves as foreign correspondent for FOX News Channel (FNC). He covers the world from FNC's London bureau.



Palkot is a key contributor to FOX News' coverage of the War on Terror. He's been embedded with troops in Iraq and Afghanistan, filed from the scene of Saddam Hussein's capture, is following the hunt for Usama bin Laden and Al Qaeda in Pakistan's border area, as well as the deadly attacks on Benazir Bhutto there. He's also reported from inside Iran and on the Mideast including Gaza and Lebanon.



In Europe, Greg was live at the scene of the Russian invasion of Georgia, he covered the fiery riots surrounding Paris, the crash of the Concorde, as well as the deaths of Princess Diana and Pope John Paul II.



From Africa, Palkot has reported inside war-torn Sudan, he's followed the strife in Somalia and modern piracy in the waters off Africa's coast.



And in Asia, he's reported live from North Korea, from Beijing on the Olympics, from the devastation of the Tsunami in Indonesia and relief efforts for cyclone-hit Burma.



Greg has featured in documentaries on Iran's controversial nuclear efforts, Iraq's scandal-plagued Oil-for-Food program and the invasion of Fallujah.



Palkot has received Emmy Awards for Best Reporting, Best News Coverage and Best Feature, also earning honors from the Associated Press, United Press International and the International Film and Television Awards.



Prior to joining FNC, he's been an anchor, reporter and producer, serving on programs on PBS-TV, Financial News Network (now CNBC), WABC and CBS.



A graduate of Wesleyan University, Palkot speaks French, Germa

[Kolesar]

6. May have been earnest professionals who dreamed of working for a real news organization

...some day. Just trying to get experience

Get well soon, guys.

[harvey007]

8. Help Protect Journalists

http://en.rsf.org/

http://www.cpj.org/

[Plucketeer]

11. I sure hope

the venerable team of O'lielly, Hannity & Beck go in!

Edit: I posted this as a "funny". But then I got to thinking about it. Really, wouldn't it lend credence to the cra... er, ideals that Beck's always proposing/predicting, if he were to immerse himself in a revolt firsthand??? C'mon Glen. One fer the Gipper!

[hlthe2b]

12. Well, that should make Fatbo Rush sooo happy...

That SOB needs to receive his karmic "justice" .... NOW.... He is a blight on the living.

[creeksneakers2]

49. Limbaugh has shifted to backing Mubarak

It would be hard for him to explain Mubarak goons beating up Faux reporters so I doubt he'll try.

[Skeeve]

13. What the hell were they doing there?

That is where news happens. And they don't do news.

Hope they're ok, they're still human after all.

[golddigger]

17. Oh my! This sounds like a a job for...

SuperO'Rielly!

[BlueMTexpat]

18. I think that it is horrible that ANY journalists are targeted or hurt -

even if they happen to be working for Faux. I wish them well.

But if Faux Noise reports that those who harmed them were anti-Mubarak protesters, I won't be surprised. We've seen how Faux will do literally anything to adhere to the favored story line.

[Beacool]

19. That's terrible!!!

Here's wishing them a speedy recovery. Too many journalists lose their lives doing their jobs in troubled spots. Anderson Cooper and his crew were pushed around and he was hit on the head. Christiane Amanpour and her crew were verbally menaced and told to get out of there. All were attacked by the pro Mubarak mobs.

I don't find this amusing at all.

x(

[polmaven]

87. Anderson Cooper

was attacked for a second time today. I am with you that it is not the least bit amusing, and not something to use for political "gotcha" purposes.

[Beacool]

100. Yeah, I heard.

I also saw in the news that an ABC producer and his crew were threatened with decapitation.

Scary times......

:(

[Leithan]

20. I condemn this

And I hope the Fox crew recover fully.

[muntrv]

21. I could see Roger Ailes making Greg Palkot change his story as to who attacked him.

[AllyCat]

106. Unfortunately, so could I. I hope they report the truth.

Many prayers to the journalists for their speedy recovery.

[primavera]

139. It certainly would be a first if they did. - n/t

[StarsInHerHair]

22. more damage by the Mobs for Mubarak....he needs to be in jail for ordering

this and other actions

[Capitalocracy]

45. I wonder if it will make a difference

I'm starting to think he would've gotten away with a nice, cushy retirement in Saudi Arabia, but because of what he's doing now, he might actually end up in jail. We'll see.

[StarsInHerHair]

167. yeah, he just committed a war crime, by confiscating medical supplies

and holding up doctors...the only way to remove such a man is to arrest him, detain him, and try him.

[msanthrope]

25. Horrible. I wish them a quick recovery. n/t

[Kingofalldems]

26. Well pigboy will have to change his tune

[Renew Deal]

27. What are they going to do when the journalists are all gone?

That's what people should be afraid of.

[creeksneakers2]

55. CNN is no longer running live pictures

I haven't checked all the others yet. It appears that as soon as the press is turned off the anti-Mubarak protesters will be dealt with even more violently. Probably with as much violence as it takes to disburse them.

[Jefferson23]

30. Mubarak is behind this, I want to hear how Fox and the RW will spin their own

being harmed by a dictator's orders. The other night Romney could not bring himself to refer to
Mubarak as a dictator..he called him part of a monarchy...schmuck.

[skip fox]

34. Beck said only that protesters beat their journalists News following Beck

said it was pro-Mubarak protestors.

[Jefferson23]

35. True to form he wouldn't qualify who, thanks for posting. n/t

[Raine]

31. I didn't think that Fox had any coverage from there

because I never saw anything from Egypt when I periodically checked. I'm sorry for their newspeople, this is just wrong.

[sakabatou]

32. Is O'Reilly smirking now?

Didn't he say something about other networks?

[underpants]

37. Conan last night

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=394Dw48trGU

[tomm2thumbs]

39. heh heh heh

although I bet they wouldn't waste an ounce of energy laying a finger on that ugly mug of his - they might contract something...

[L0oniX]

56. Bwahahah

[etherealtruth]

41. Horrifying

The organization they work for is irrelevant

[nolabear]

42. Oh, how horrible! This situation is truly shocking.

COntrolling the media, the flow of information, is the first step in removing any vestige of freedom. I'm hardly a Fox fan, but they don't deserve this.

[alp227]

44. same with many other foreign journalists and anyone not in line with mubarak

sad indeed and i hope for a safe return home for all Americans/foreigners from Egypt

[NuclearDem]

51. Fox really sucks...

But I really hope these guys are alright...

[Raschel]

117. I flip thru all the channels and I watched Shepard Smith in no uncertain terms call the attackers

Mubarak thugs over and over. In fact, he gave a very good summation of the situation including mentioning what a joke it was that Mubarak says he can't leave because there might be chaos.

Smith call it as it is in plain speak for a good five minutes.

[Lars77]

53. A Swedish reporter for SVT is hospitalized with a stab wound in the abdomen nt

[Beacool]

96. I read that a Greek reporter was stabbed in the leg.

:-(

[Ahpook]

54. Wahhh

Why are they covering anything real anyway? Isn't some richy getting a dick enlargement somewhere?


That network is a circus! Who needs them?

[PavePusher]

64. And civility exits...

...stage left.

Sigh.

[Ahpook]

69. Like they have supported anything close to that?

I may be in a wonderful mood tonight, and speaking from a place deep inside. Regardless, that network has done nothing but damage.

[Abq_Sarah]

78. And you're not exactly

Occupying the moral high ground.

[Ahpook]

200. You are right. I don't want to see anyone hurt

Watching this country get dismantled is very frustrating. Whats worse is watching a portion of the country cheering it on through stupidity.

I just don't know what to think anymore

[msanthrope]

71. The post counts on the ugliest sentiments are revealing, eh? n/t

[hugo_from_TN]

118. Unfortunately, civility, compassion, and reason are not found

in a lot of folks from the left or the right. We try to pretend there is a difference, but the ugly side of human nature is in all humans. Flame away.

[emilyg]

86. Shame on you.

[NuclearDem]

90. Right, we give up our civility because they gave up theirs

:puke:

[AngryOldDem]

199. So that justifies the beating of one of their reporters.

Nice.

But not the least bit surprising.

[Jennicut]

57. All journalists there are in a very dangerous situation now.

An ABC producer's car was surrounded and he was threatened with a beheading. Pro-Mubarek forces once again. Hope the two Fox guys are okay, regardless of who they work for.

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[PavePusher]

65. Post #64.

And pound sand.

[Name removed]

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[GoCubsGo]

62. That is awful!

I hope they both have a speedy recovery.

[cynatnite]

63. I don't like this station one bit, but no one deserves this. n/t

[backwoodsbob]

68. I hear ya

look at some of the responses in this thread.We talk about them but look at this thread.

I'm ashamed to admit I belong to this group tonight and may not belong before the night is over.

[msanthrope]

73. Don't leave--I think it's NO COINCIDENCE that the ugliest sentiments come from low-count posters.

You almost wonder if there's an agenda...

[NuclearDem]

93. Can't we also entertain the fact that we just have some nasty DUers among us?

[madrchsod]

76. no shit ..i think i should have stayed at youtube

[abq e streeter]

140. I've felt the same way more than once

and then thought; I 'm not gonna let a few assholes (some of whom my or may not be agent provacateurs) chase me away from a website that is informative , and where the great majority of its members are good and compassionate progressives like me...and you.

[JAbuchan08]

123. not even Hitler.

n/t

[jimlup]

70. I want to condemn this wanton act of violence

The is not OK.

[Mosaic]

72. Awww

Fux!

[greiner3]

75. Some people have been saying;

That in order to pad their bias in this case and to increase their flagging ratings, it was Roger Ailes and his cronies that order the 'hit' on his own people. Sad state of affairs.
All that remains to be seen is if this went to the top.

[totodeinhere]

88. That's total BS and you know it.

And BTW, their ratings are doing just fine. For instance yesterday, they beat their nearest competitor by better than two to one in both total day and prime time in both the demo and in total listeners.

http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/the-scoreboard-wednesday-february-2_b51606#more-51606

[greiner3]

91. Would the sercasm icon helped?

Some people are saying it would have for some people.

[Throd]

80. Again, DU never disappoints to disappoint.

[Beacool]

97. Yep, they complain about the hateful FOX, but some should look in the mirror.

Such nasty comments........

:thumbsdown:

[Generic Other]

81. Sounds like they were victims of friendly fire

After all the pro-fascist forces should have recognized they were simpatico.

[SharksBreath]

108. Wow

Wow

[NuclearDem]

111. Um...

Yeah...

[Generic Other]

158. Fascists who beat reporters are swine

I don't deny that is so. But the notion that somehow reporters or anyone else is guaranteed safe passage when they enter a war zone is slightly naive. It sucks but everyone in that square is someone's target right now.

[NuclearDem]

161. But look at it from how people are reading it

Forgive me if I'm mistaken, but I took it to mean that the Fox reporters on the ground are fascists and essentially deserved what happened to them.

[Generic Other]

162. I didn't mean to imply they deserved to be beaten

only that they were beaten by those who share their politics which is certainly ironic.

[NuclearDem]

163. Gotcha, I misinterpreted it then.

Thanks for clearing it up. :hi:

[hay rick]

82. Don't know which is worse

what the mob did to the journalists or what Fox News has done to journalism.

[Starboard Tack]

83. Is all this nastiness really necessary?

Nobody should be attacked by a mob. Period!

[The Doctor.]

101. There only appear to be a very small handful of tepid or snide remarks.

For the most part, people here are rightly condemning the attacks.

I haven't seen a post yet that says they deserved it... let alone multiple ones.

[RedCloud]

84. ironic

[rpannier]

131. That was my first thought

This is the definition of irony

[AnnieBW]

94. And it's the first time that anyone at Fox News has been near a war zone

Seriously, I hope that he's all right. Attacking journalists - even a Fox News journalist - is just fucking WRONG.

[DuaneBidoux]

95. I hope for recovery for these two men, I never wish harm to anyone.

The reality is no matter what your political leanings, it is a dangerous time to be covering the news in Egypt.

And it doesn't look like it is going to get safer anytime soon.

[Taverner]

99. Seriously - I hope they are all OK

Journalists should not be beaten, intimidated or otherwise attacked.

[October]

103. Awful. Hope all are ok...

Scary for anyone.

[AllyCat]

105. I'm sorry to hear they have been hurt. Hope they heal quickly and

actually investigate what is happening, then report the truth.

[abelenkpe]

107. no fan of FOX but that is awful

Hope all journalists stay safe

[rasputin1952]

109. The men and women that cover these stories are targets, it comes with the job...

they were targeted by thugs, paid operators for Murabak. The Hundreds of thousands of Egyptians that have protested against Murabak have been remarkably peaceful, protecting their home treasures and have taken a violent tack only after being attacked byt a pretty small group of miscreants.

I respect the men and women that go into harms way to bring us news that is truly worthy of things we should know. What happens in Egypt will have ramifications all over the area, we are sitting here watching history unfold, I hope those that were injured heal quickly and I thank them for their dangerous service.

Looks like tomorrow we may see some pretty hefty changes. There is revolution in the air, and if change can be made with a minimal amount of violence, we will all be better for it.

As far as the clown car that has Beck, Hannity, Limbaugh, Savage, O'Reilly and their ilk, they have always been cowards, will always be cowards, and toss in their worthless wooden nickles from the confines of protected sets and studios. Swine at the trough.

[RandySF]

110. It's just terrible

that Sean Hannity wasn't there.

[NuclearDem]

112. Chalk up another for the no-shame crowd

:puke:

[SharksBreath]

113. I would feel sorry for them if they were there to cover the real story.

But knowing Fuc News.

Fuck them.

Republicans don't understand a situation until they are actually in that situation.

It's how they are wired. They can't see how it feels to be in someone's shoes unless they are actually standing in those shoes.

See Michale Savage asking Clinton for help with being banned from the UK for hate speach.

As the Christian Reich Bible says.

Treat your neighbors as you wish to be treated.

Yesterday they were cheering Anderson Cooper getting punched in the face on their website. It was funny.

If it takes a couple of "Journalist" from Fuc News to get their ass whipped to understand the situation.

So be it.

You should have seen the comments under the article about Anderson Cooper.

Now that their own journalists were attacked you can't view the article anymore.

It forwards you to an article about their journalist being attacked.

[NuclearDem]

114. Christ, they're human beings!

You have an issue with Fox, take it up with Ailes and the talking heads.

Journalists in the field (Fox or not) don't deserve this.

[SharksBreath]

115. Tell Fuc news.

They were just supporting Mubarak forces.

[NuclearDem]

116. You're saying that having journalists beat up is a good thing?

So long as Fox News "gets it"?

:puke:

[JAbuchan08]

self delete

[liberation]

126. No, you're the one saying that.

Why are so many people in this thread pretending to use the concern for the well being of those journalist as an excuse to shut down any sort of discussion regarding the lack of credibility of the company they work for, i.e. FOX News?


One can feel sorry that these journalist were beaten up, and at the same time recognize that FOX News has tried to spin these events developing in Northern Africa for the past few weeks to fit their own fascist narrative. Multitasking, what a concept...

[NuclearDem]

132. Because two reasons:

1) DU never tires to discuss the lack of credibility of Fox. I thought we could come together for once to show some sympathy for some journalists beat up doing their job.

2) The decisions at upper-level Fox management have nothing to do with these people being brutalized. Do you think the average Egyptian knows what Fox is the same way we do?

[abq e streeter]

141. +1

[Trajan]

153. Yeah .... The guy holding the mikeboom ...

Should get his ass kicked in, just so you can feel good about it ....

Not everybody who works at a news organization abides by the philosophy of the CEO ....

Think about it: Do you agree with your CEO ?

I really dislike the haters ....

[Raschel]

120. So you think a reporter should get beat up because some POSTERS made rude remarks about other

reporters? That's crazy.

[phleshdef]

160. No true liberal would say anything like what you just said.

[unkachuck]

119. "FOX News Channel's veteran foreign correspondent..."

....I hate the thought of anyone being brutalized, but could this be poetic justice?

....if you get people rendering, it's hard to make them stop?....that pro-hosehead, sorry, hoseknee, crowd must be a real nasty lot to smack the good folks at Fox around....

[cali]

175. no, it couldn't be.

it's just ugly violence. duh.

[Throd]

124. The Khmer Douche are out in full force tonight.

Apparently, it is fine to brutalize journalists who work for a news outlet that doesn't represent your world view.

If you find this event acceptable, you'll surely love the end result.

Stop the bus, I wanna get off.

[Beacool]

125. Egypt Chaos: Dozens of Reporters Beaten, Arrested

CAIRO -- Menacing gangs backing President Hosni Mubarak attacked journalists and human rights activists Thursday in an ugly turn in Egypt's crisis as government opponents pushed supporters out of Cairo's main square in a second day of battles. Organizers called for protesters trying to topple the regime to fill every square in the huge capital on Friday.

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Pro-government mobs beat foreign journalists with sticks and fists Thursday. The Committee to Protect Journalists said 24 reporters were detained in 24 hours, including representatives of The Washington Post and The New York Times. Twenty-one journalists were assaulted, including two with Fox News.

One Greek journalist was stabbed in the leg with a screwdriver, and a photographer was punched in the face, his equipment smashed. The Arabic news network Al-Arabiya pleaded for the army to protect its offices and journalists, and Al-Jazeera said four of its correspondents were attacked. The BBC's foreign editor said security forces had seized the network's equipment in a hotel to stop it broadcasting.

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Human rights activists were also targeted. Military police stormed the offices of an Egyptian rights group as activists were meeting and arrested at least 30, including two from the London-based Amnesty International, Amnesty spokesman Tom Mackey said. New York-based Human Rights Watch said one of its activists was also among those arrested.

http://www.aolnews.com/2011/02/03/egyptian-army-moves-between-battling-factions-in-cairo/

:-(

[cherokeeprogressive]

129. This thread is the car wreck you don't want to look at, but have to.

It proves that DU is definitely not the home of compassion. In fact, the incompassionate nature of some of the posts in this thread is stunning. Stunning and shameful at the same time actually.

I was going to say that it makes me ashamed to be a member here but on second thought it makes me sad that DU allows such mean and hateful people to stay.

Way to go, DU.

[emilyg]

152. You expressed my feelings.

[abq e streeter]

155. Agreed that there are some stunningly crude posts, but seems like a distinct minority

Without actually counting and/or analyzing. Just seems like most are sensible and compassionate. And I have to wonder as some already have, (including myself above) if some aren't "planted" to make us look bad.....And yes, some are no doubt progressives who seem to have forgotten, or ignored the fact that human compassion is or should be, at the very heart of being a liberal or progressive. But, unfortunately,as the old saying goes , there's one (or in this case, a few) in every crowd...

[PoliticAverse]

135. Fox news video story discussing the issue.

http://video.foxnews.com/v/4523332/

Blames the attack on "pro-Mubarek forces" and notes that "they have been released from the hospital".

[progrocktv]

136. Spoke to my co-worker who is a convervative today,

We'd usually be at almost extreme odds (we've had many a heated conversation in the past) however the events throughout this past month have eased us a bit. Walked by his cube today after hearing about the news and leaned in and told him "WOW, I'm sorry to hear about the Fox reporters in Egypt" not expecting a reaction he replied with "Yea, that sucks, hey, I'm sorry to hear about Anderson Cooper too man"

I guess we're all in this together.

[npk]

144. Wasn't Anderson Cooper also beaten

Though not as badly as the Fox reporter and his camera man. This is starting to get bad as the reporters are being targeted now.

[PoliticAverse]

149. Yes. Here's a list of reporters that have been attacked, threatened or detained compiled by ABC News

http://abcworldnews.tumblr.com/post/3089328425/weve-compiled-a-list-of-all-the-journalist-who

[Imagevision]

156. Limbaugh on the first comment thought this could be ... funny!

[steve2470]

159. I'm very sorry to hear this.

No journalist of any political stripe or affiliation deserves to be beaten.

[DonCoquixote]

165. I hate Fox like any good Lib should

But when the violence gets bad enough where they attack the embedded, "we are here to make you look good" journalists, then you know the crap has hit the fan.

[cherokeeprogressive]

171. This Lib doesn't think hate is good in any measure.

[No Elephants]

166. I hope they recover fully soon--and then get work with an honorable organization.

[DonCoquixote]

169. I am probably going to get rocks thrown at me for this

First off, I am somewhere between Let and far left. I think Obama has made mistakes by wussing out where he should have told the Blue Dogs to get out of the way, though I also believe he is the best president we have had in decades.

Second off, we all know that the percentage of people on the left who want violence is much much smaller than most people think it is, and it is a damn lot less than anyone on the right thinks it is. Ted Rall can call for violence, but we know that the vast majority of the left would at the very least try to make sure human rights were respected.

That being said:

Some people act like armchair generals, calling for blood. Of course, that plays right into the stereotypes and propaganda. No, I am not talking about Gibbs mythical "professional left" that just wishes the DLC would shift a little leftward, I mean people who seem to think that change will only come about with violence, who look forward to society decaying. To that I say, I oppose you every bit as much as the Right wing, for both are willing to shed blood for glory, innocents be damned!

[JDPriestly]

170. I wonder what Mr. Palkot thinks about the idea of imprisoning or

worse Assange at this time. Fox News has to make up its mind. Either everybody has free speech, or nobody has it. You can't have it both ways. It's one of those thins in life that either is or is not. There is no compromise on free speech.

By definition, free speech is either always free or it is not at all free.

[cherokeeprogressive]

172. Strange juxtaposition: Saint Julian and an entire nation looking to shed dictatorial rule...

Can't wrap my mind around that.

This thread was supposed to be about correspondents and photographers/videographers being beaten til they needed hospitalization.

I doubt that Mr. Palkot and his Videographer think/thought about Saint Julian at all while they were being beaten.

[JDPriestly]

195. It is terrible when members of the press or others who

exercise their right to free speech are beaten or threatened. Assange, like the Fox news reporters has been threatened. Ironically, some of those supporting the threats against Assange are prominent guests, possibly even newscasters on Fox. That is the tie between the OP and my post. I just expected people to be intelligent enough to see the link and understand the relevance. My mistake. Now that I have explained, I hope you will understand.

The Fox reporters have the universal human right to exercise free speech and that should be respected. The Mubarak government considers its repression of the protestors against the government to be a secret matter. That is the way things work in repressive regimes. Our government considers the matters in its diplomatic cables to be secrets. In fact, none of those things are really secrets. They are the people's business. The Fox reporters are revealing Mubarak's secrets. Assange is revealing Obama's secrets. Both the Fox reporters and Assange should be permitted to exercise the right of free speech, the sharing of information, without intimidation, without fear, without repression.

[Le Taz Hot]

176. Shame on the people celebrating

this and laughing about it. You people are absolutely NO BETTER than those you purport to be superior to. Why don't you run along to that other site where things like this are de reguer. I'm embarrassed for DU today.

[tavalon]

179. No matter how I might feel about Faux "news", no one should be targeting

journalists or even people acting like journalists. They are not the only ones. The journalists from every corner have been attacked and much of their equipment has been destroyed. May Greg Palkot and his cameraman Olaf Wiig heal as well as the many others who have been hurt.

[cordelia]

181. Horrible

I hope they recover fully and quickly.

[Bake]

206. I too hope they recovery fully and quickly

And I hope the incident makes them rethink the editorial position of their employer. Maybe they can get jobs elsewhere as real journalists, not propagandists.

Bake

[Politicub]

183. Cue the chorus of sociopaths who get a sick pleasure from this just because they're from Fox

For the record, you don't speak for me or the vast majority of DU. But if you want to cast your lot with the likes of Beck and Limbaugh who were cheering on the beating of NYT reporters yesterday, that's your immature choice.

Rachel had an excellent piece on the beating and detaining of journalists and reporters on her show last night. It was well produced and eye opening. And as she always does, Rachel took the high road and spoke of the victims the same way - not dividing how she covered them based on the outlet's pov.

[Doctor_J]

189. What if the revolution were here instead of Egypt?

If the revolution were taking place here instead of in Egypt, would Fox "News" personnel be off limits then? They would certainly be much more a part of the fascists we'd be trying to take the country back from than of the journalism class.

[Wait Wut]

190. There weren't as many as I thought...

For those asking for proof of inappropriate comments...

“I think O'Reilly should replace Palkot in Egypt...”

“LardA$$ Limbaugh should go to Egypt too!”

“I sure hope...the venerable team of O'lielly, Hannity & Beck go in!
Edit: I posted this as a "funny". But then I got to thinking about it. Really, wouldn't it lend credence to the cra... er, ideals that Beck's always proposing/predicting, if he were to immerse himself in a revolt firsthand??? C'mon Glen. One fer the Gipper!”

“Wahhh...Why are they covering anything real anyway? Isn't some richy getting a dick enlargement somewhere?
That network is a circus! Who needs them?”

I promise that these are not nearly as bad as the ones I read on a local tea party site about Anderson Cooper and can’t compare to the disgusting remarks on American Grand Jury, but...I was still shocked at some of the comments. There were more, but they must have been deleted last nite.

The majority of comments were in support of the FOX crew. I think maybe the negative ones stood out so much that some of us multiplied them in our subconscious. I honestly thought there were a lot more, as well.

[Doctor_J]

204. Answer my question

IMO, anyone from Fox is a terrorist. Certainly, if we ever decide to take the country back from the Bush/Rove/Murdoch cabal, Fox will be on the side of the fascists. Are we then allowed to attack them even though they're "journalists"?

[Vidar]

193. Damn. I was hoping it happened in the US.

[Skittles]

203. not funny

when you talk like that, you lower yourself to the mentality of teabaggers

[louslobbs]

194. Too Bad Faux Noise didn't team up Glenn Beck, Sarah Complainin Palin and

Rush Limpballs to send in and cover the unrest in Egypt. They could talk their way out of anything.....I think. Let's send them and find out shall we? Their God would surely protect them, wouldn't it?

[The_Commonist]

198. Whoa... that sucks.

I hope they recover and I wish them well.
Maybe once they're feeling better, they'll get real jobs...

[PoliticAverse]

201. Followup: Greg Palkots firsthand account of Cairo attack

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/02/04/bloody-cairo-hand-account/

[Doctor_J]

205. I'll click on Fox "News" right after hell freezes over

Yeesh. Stop patronizing them.

[Skittles]

202. the Egypt people are doing themselves no favors behaving like this

it is wrong, wrong, wrong

[Doctor_J]

208. Maybe the Egyptian people realize that Fox "News"

personnel are very likely at least friendly to the dictator, and possibly in his employ. As I remarked elsewhere, if the people in the US were to revolt against the Bush Crime Family, every last Fox employee would be on the side of the oppressors, and thus an enemy of the revolution. At hat point do their "journalism" credentials become overridden by their sympathy/complicity with the tyrants?

[ozone_man]

207. Maybe this will inspire them to become journalists.

Sometimes it takes being victimized before you see the light, not that I condone this brutality.