Breaking - Osama bin Laden is dead

[Akoto]

Source: MSNBC / White House

MSNBC reports that President Barack Obama will announce the death of Osama bin Laden, as the result of a US operation in Pakistan. Reports further state that OBL's body is in custody and will be used to confirm his death.

UPDATE: Temporary link added.

SPEECH UPDATE: President Obama has reported in his speech that the United States has conducted an operation which killed Osama bin Laden. Last August, he was briefed on a possible lead indicating that Obama bin Laden was hiding in a compound deep within Pakistan. The President decided last week that there was enough intelligence to move, and at his direction, a small team of Americans moved today to attack the site. Osama bin Laden was killed in the ensuing firefight, during which no Americans were harmed, and his body was taken into custody.

President Obama states that cooperation with Pakistan helped to confirm OBL's location. He also wishes to emphasize that the US is not at war with Islam, and that this should be a historic moment for all who desire peace.

Read more: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42852700/ns/world_news-south_and_central_asia

[iwishiwas]

1. Now can we leave Iraq and Afgan??

[Kat45]

89. I was thinking the same thing!

Or will they find more excuses?

[MissDeeds]

100. My thoughts too n/t

[Rosa Luxemburg]

230. Me too

[bjobotts]

521. How do you say it's OBL's DNA-You just give a press release.

[bjobotts]

522. Please don't let this wipe out other news release. theexistentialistcowboy.com

[bjobotts]

524. American airlines just released that flights 11 and 77 never left the ground on 9/11.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

537. when?

[midnight]

113. My thoughts exactly... We are broke and we are tired... Let's bring them all home...

[AnneD]

386. And while we are at it....

Can we have our freedoms back?

[WVRICK13]

400. End The War

Mission Accomplished!

[livefreest]

131. oh, you sweet sweet dreamers

:hug:

[iwishiwas]

183. hug back to yah.

[dotymed]

394. The making of a Martyr. They knew that. What better way?

to ensure that "the terrorists" have a renewed reason to "attack" us. It's not enough to kill women and children, daily, to guarantee high "recruitment" numbers for "the terrorists" than to martyr their "leader"...aka..an old Arab man hiding in a cave with a dialysis machine.

Was our only "proof" that Osama directed the twin towers destruction, his taking credit for it? Amazingly (not), the first order of business was to increase our "threat level."

Once a government has taken it's citizens civil liberties, it will not give them back without a struggle.

I hope I am wrong on all accounts, time will tell.

Maybe if we leave (this is our opportunity it would seem) the M.E., we can mitigate the effects of our mass killings there by claiming we were just after Osama and we apologize for all of the collateral damage and all of brutalization of its innocent citzenry......Maybe...

Of course, now that we are "committed" to "helping those M.E. folks, we can not just leave them (alive) and let them fare for themselves since they have been doing that for thousands of years. Even if the world is not really THAT old.

I realize that I sound like an unpatriotic American, I am not. However, I question the "wisdom" of remaining in what were once sovereign nations, killing their citizens and imprisoning their people. Because
1) It is immoral and plain wrong.
2) We just keep creating more "terrorists" by staying.
4)WE CAN NOT AFFORD IT. Not because of our increasing deficit, although that has some bearing on this fact. Mainly, because by giving all of our money to the MIC and private contractors, we are neglecting OUR citizens. They have become impoverished and struggle to survive. We have already provided Them with universal health care and outrageous infrastructure spending while neglecting our country, except the very wealthy, they happen to depend on these "wars" to create large profits for themselves.

Sorry for the bitter rant but I do not expect ANY positive changes. I hope that I am wrong.

p.s.- Here and in the Presidents address, we were told that the "body was confiscated." For proof, show and positive identification I supposed.
Todays headlines read that "the body was buried at sea. Kind of an odd way to treat a "body" that you have spent trillion$ and countless lives and suffering to retrieve....

[BobbyBoring]

457. Bin Laden didn't say he was responsable

He said the opposite. This whole story stinks!

[Brianboru]

134. And Libya!

And stay out of Syria.

But nothing will change.

[rhett o rick]

141. Of course you jest. Our presence there has nothing to do with bin Ladin.

Iraq has oil and Afghanistan has strategic minerals.

[Mimosa]

Never. As McCain said, we'll be there a hundred years. n/t

[Lugnut]

172. That was my first thought.

There's now no reason for our military to be there. Too many lives have already been lost. Too much money has already been thrown into that black hole. This should change everything.

[Yukari Yakumo]

192. Unlikely... At least not immediately

With their spiritual and literal leader fragged, it wouldn't surprise me if AQ disintegrates into a chaotic morass. If that happens, expect much of the fighting in Afghanistan to decrease.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

200. Dick Gregory announced that it will begin in 60 days. Give the president some time, ya'll.

[Cherchez la Femme]

497. Nooo... comedians in the White House?

Say it ain't so!

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

529. Apparently, I was drinking way too much wine last night. LOL!!!

[OhioChick]

212. +1000 n/t

[AllTooEasy]

246. Donald Trump: "Where's the Death Certificate?!"

[47of74]

261. They didn't use the long form.

[Enthusiast]

366. How about a DNA test

that proves it is Ossama?

[SaveAmerica]

249. YES!!!!!

[Wait Wut]

266. Are you fucking kidding me?

Give everyone a minute to celebrate before you start with your antiwhatever crap. Oh...and by the way...the rest of them are going to be just a little irritated with this little development. It could possibly make things just a little more difficult for our troops. For the love of whatever God or Atom you claim as holy...give it a fucking rest for one fucking evening.

[Butch350]

398. Some people are just NEVER satisfied...

It's always, "can i have what i want now"? Okay mommie?

[Cherchez la Femme]

459. Like a pony, right?

Yeah, THEY'RE so childish...

certainly not entitled to their own opinion! :eyes:

[cui bono]

470. Yes, how DARE they actually be able to think analytically and with a greater understanding

of how things are completely interrelated. So immature of them.

:eyes:

[get the red out]

410. +1

Thank you. When Bush was in office all anyone could wonder was "why hasn't he gotten bin Laden?".

How DARE this President Obama do something he said he was going to do when campaigning, how DARE he.

[cui bono]

469. Are YOU fucking kidding ME?

You'd rather we just not give an ounce of thought to the troops who have spent way too long out there in danger, the innocent Afghans and Iraqis, all of whom are in danger of losing their lives at any moment. You'd rather not think about all the innocent lives that have already been lost, and I'm talking hundreds of thousands, all because of making Bin Laden a false demon not worthy of all the attention the world gave him? He was turned into the entire reason we are in those countries, glorified as a mastermind when the War on Terror was unveiled. This War on Terror is the reason Al Qaeda has grown and is not an organization of the past. It is logical to think about bringing our troops home to safety and spending the money wasted on these senseless wars on programs at home that can help turn this country back around.

Oh, no, let's just celebrate. We won't bother to think about how our troops should never have been sent out to Iraq and Afghanistan in the first place and how that is a direct result of having built him up into this super-villain and how if that were never done our troops would never have been sent overseas. We'll just now accept that he is a super-villain and crack open a beer and cheer. Sheesh.

Some of us can see how interrelated all of it is and don't have to simplify everything down to one event at a time just to be able to digest it or have it fit into our own myopic views.

ETA: What exactly are you celebrating anyway?

[ooglymoogly]

516. +1 The only folks it seems speaking reality, so far,

are Keith Olbermann, Glen Greenwald and perhaps a few more I have not yet seen.

Hay ho, the boogie man is dead, hay ho, the boogie man is dead. Now of course there will be peace and we will get back all we have lost, like maybe our country already. Yuh right.

[caseymoz]

316. Maybe Obama will bring'em home now.

He's earned more political capital now than Bush did.

[Arrowhead2k1]

325. Haha, no...

Still gotta get them Taliban, herp derp.

[PuffedMica]

379. Would yesterday be too soon?

[aquamarina]

436. +++ to Infinity and beyond

Time to bring the troops home. No more excuses.

[Cherchez la Femme]

499. Lot's of excuses

One main one: To bring them Democracy!!! YAY!!11!1 :patriot:

Hamid Karzai seems to be catching right on to good ole' U.S. style Democracy, no?


WHY is it that politics is right up alongside religion for the reasons of invading countries/killing their people "to free them"
so they can live just like you

-- to be "Saved"
from themselves?

[Akoto]

2. Bump. Now reported that they have his body and will use it to confirm. n/t

[iwishiwas]

4. Wolfe said they have dna and it has been confirmed already.

[Name removed]

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[iwishiwas]

3. Wolfe shows up on a Sun nite on cnn.

[Zorra]

67. Damage control for the GOP. nt

[cui bono]

462. ???

[Mz Pip]

5. And the Obama Admistration

gets to take credit for this.

Sarah and Donald need to STFU. They got nothing. Obama got bin Laden.

[lunasun]

76. all the righties will still diss him

they will discuss shit like how it took another "Muslim" to get OBL
crap like that no doubt or keep saying.".. Obama excuse me;I meant Osama ..."
they will not STFU
I do not believe it and dont forget where are the jobs?
Like Obama can just pull them out of his ass or something and if he expanded govrmnt jobs or job corps he would be 'spending' which is a no no
Or like his job killing Obamacare not our national health care Obama care

[Mz Pip]

92. The can try to dis this

but it won't play. This was their talking point for 7 years. Bush couldn't deliver. Obama did.

You can't argue with success. They can try but it will just sound foolish. If they can't praise Obama now then they will just come off as being twits who care more about partisanship than catching the 3 terrorist in the world.

Fuck them if they can't cheer this development.

[Bucky]

88. A little credit to the troops that got him, too. But yes, concentrating on Afghanistan was right.

Iraq only delayed this moment, distracted us for 6 years. After that bastard bankrolled the murder of 3000 people on America's soil Bush shoulda made it job #1, but of course Afghanistan didn't have oil.

[Mz Pip]

110. Oh, definitely

this is a huge credit to the troops and to those who brought it about. But no one should forget who was Commaneder In Chief when it went down. Particularly the Republicans who have made it a talking point that dems were weak on National Security.

Obama is weak? That doesn't play anymore.

[hardtravelin]

139. Probably CIA, in Pakistan n/t

[No Elephants]

395. Osama was in Pakistan, not Afghanistan And, Afghanistan has invaluable natural resources.

I never agreed with either war (Iraq or Afganistan). However, it's impossible to make a rational case that either war either helped us find Bin Ladin or kept us from finding him.

Edit a rational case.

[AlbertCat]

517. Afghanistan has invaluable natural resources.

I remember something... about a... a ...pipeline....

[melnjones]

280. Our servicemen and women got bin Laden.

They've been risking their lives regardless of the political party in office. They deserve the credit. Hopefully all parties can give credit where it is due and keep petty fighting elsewhere.

[krkaufman]

298. Well, let's be clear...

Obama redirected our efforts BACK to Afghanistan from Iraq, where Bush has misdirected them. This result comes from the unparalleled sacrifice of the troops and their families, but also reflects well on Obama's prioritizing focus on those who attacked us on 9/11. Obama commanded in just over 2 years what Bush and Cheney failed to accomplish in over 7, and starting from a deficit position.

I am not a fan of Obama's, at present, but this reflects VERY well on his leadership.

[Liberalynn]

438. +1

:thumbsup: I totally agree with your assesment. :dem:

[Cherchez la Femme]

461. Wasn't bin Laden killed in Pakistan?

AFAIK, Pakistan & Afghanistan are different countries.


edit: Oh, & BTW, if you can accuse any country of 'attacking us on 9/11' it would be Saudi Arabia (and we've caught other, non-bin Laden Saudi terrorists with plans in the works/almost completed inside our country).

But they're still our bestest friend eva!
It's A-OK for *them* not to have our vaunted Corpor, er, Democracy!

How strange...

[No Elephants]

399. Our troops attacked where and when ordered. They did not find Bin Laden

or give the orders.

I'm not taking away from their bravery or dutifulness, but it was not all them. CIA, Pentagon and CIC very much involved.

[rainlillie]

416. ITA!

[Drunken Irishman]

554. I'm kicking this thread because it was just so fun...

[kpete]

6. Bin Laden Is Dead, U.S. Official Says Obama to Make Announcement

Source: New York Times

Bin Laden Is Dead, U.S. Official Says
Obama to Make Announcement

Osama bin Laden has been killed, a United States official said Sunday night. President Obama is expected to make an announcement on Sunday night, almost 10 years after the September 11 attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon.

...........


just now

CONFIRMED


HE IS DEAD

URGENT NEWS:: USABreakingNews has confirmed from the House Intelligence Committee that Osama bin Laden is dead. The U.S. has his body now.
http://twitter.com/#!/USABreakingNews/status/64880771768397824

UPDATE 2: Osama bin Laden has been killed, and the United States is in possession of his body.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/05/01/972039/-Breaking:-Osama-bin-Laden-is-DEAD,-the-US-has-his-body

Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/02/world/asia/osama-bin-laden-is-killed.html

[Hardrada]

7. Then the wars are over!!

Bring the troops home!

[Drale]

8. Sorry but its Fox I won't believe it until I hear it from the Presidents mouth.

[Electric Monk]

15. +1

[totodeinhere]

84. No, all of the networks are running with it now. n/t

[raging_moderate]

160. and cue The Donald....

CNN reporting it. FOX, however, has The Donald on who is trying to one up Obama's press conference by stating that he "fired" Bin Laden weeks ago.




:sarcasm:

[timtom]

370. So, they've changed their story from December 2001...

A constantly shifting mosaic, eh?

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,41576,00.html

[soleft]

9. Apparently John McCain finally shared how to get him

[valerief]

13. Bwahahaha!

:rofl:

[rep the dems]

52. Well played. nt

[krkaufman]

299. Nice!! :) n/t

[Kolesar]

390. Ha! ... eom

[Plucketeer]

465. BINGO!

Now............ we just hafta ferret out what concessions the administration gave McCain in order for him to share his fail-proof plan to get this baddie! Since he promised he'd tell the military HOW to get Bin Laden IF we elected him and the quitter Gov to the executive branch, surely McCain didn't give our brass the info without some sort of booty in return!

[cui bono]

471. He's going to run on that in 2012.

The McCain Girls will sing about it in a youtube video.

[no_hypocrisy]

10. Natural causes or otherwise?

[Drale]

12. Aliens and Zombies landed on top of him

[madrchsod]

50. werewolfs from london........

[Bucky]

107. Well, if aliens and zombies landed on top of you, it's only natural that you'd die.

[emilyg]

126. I heard he was shot in the head.

[smirkymonkey]

467. I heard it was a bad mix of pop rocks and diet coke.

[earthside]

11. Osama is gona.

Good news ... but brace for terrorist reprisals.

[Kurovski]

16. That would be the "something about national security" I guess. (nt)

[JohnnyRingo]

23. If they could, they would have by now.

There may be some recruiting on his martyrdom, but they don't make terrorists like they used to. Plus, unlike on 9/10/01, it's not so easy for an Islamic tourist to get off a plane and plan an elaborate plot.

Any idea how hard it must be for a Syrian to get a private pilot's license these days? LOL

[Maine-ah]

407. they will plan it.

and it will be years away. They will take their time.

[Bucky]

128. Pfff, al-Qaeda got dismantled years ago. They don't have the ability to hit us hard--not like 9-11

[JohnnyRingo]

14. Dick Gregory confirms

Obama did what the paper tiger GWB couldn't do in eight years.
I couldn't wait to start on that one, and apparently neither could Obama.

[Ken Burch]

286. I think you meant DAVID Gregory...

n/t.

[JohnnyRingo]

327. oops

BIG difference.

[cui bono]

472. Haha... skimmed this thread briefly before going to bed and did a little Scooby Doo sound

when I saw that. ;)

[jpak]

383. LOL!

:rofl:

[high density]

17. CNN confirms

John King

[BREMPRO]

18. wow.. that's a surprise.. wonder how? i guess we can leave Afghanistan now....

[Kurovski]

83. God how i hope so. my neighbor's grandson is heading there.

[progressoid]

19. King on CNN says so too.

[krispos42]

20. So we found his body after 10 years in the mountains??? n/t

[Drale]

22. He died ten years ago but

then his corpse was reanimated as a Zombie and now we killed the Zombie Bin Laden.:rofl:

[StClone]

51. No Obama got him now sorry

[Drale]

54. Double Post

[Drale]

55. It was meant to be a joke

[krkaufman]

301. eh, I doubt it.

Cloning seems more likely.

[alp227]

21. Mods: Please read this: NY Times has a story

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/02/world/asia/osama-bin-laden-is-killed.html

WASHINGTON--Osama bin Laden has been killed, a United States official said Sunday night.

President Obama is expected to make an announcement on Sunday night, almost ten years after the September 11 attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon.

(THIS STORY WILL BE EXPANDED AFTER THE PRESIDENT'S STATEMENT)

[rustydog]

24. ABC News reporting Osama is dead

[high density]

25. Chyron on CNN: OSAMA BIN LADEN IS DEAD

Hallelujah.

[Taverner]

26. Awesome!

Can we start talking troop withdrawals now?

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[Dyedinthewoolliberal]

35. Wow!

That photoshop didn't take long! :bounce:

[krispos42]

44. I didn't make it... found it on Fark.

:D

[Rosa Luxemburg]

235. Fox News must be crying

[MadMaddie]

311. Oh you know they are

They are already trying to figure out how to give Junior the credit even though he claimed "Mission Accomplished"!

They will never give President his due....even with something as monumental as this.

[bluevoter4life]

147. Its my new Facebook profile pic. eom

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[LiberalLovinLug]

342. Nice......... my version......

YOU SEE THAT'S HOW YOU DO IT!

[krkaufman]

303. Tasteless. n/t

[calimary]

306. Ooo! Like it!

Good heavens, outside the gates of the White House it reminds you of all the crowds outside Buckingham Palace waiting for The Kiss a couple of days ago. Look at all the cheering happy people! CELEBRATION!!!


:party: :party: :party:

[Odin2005]

28. WOOHOO! I hope he likes it in hell.

No 72 virgins, buddy, sorry.

[Bombero1956]

93. 72 virgins

but they all look like Rush.

[Frisbee]

271. That would explain why they're virgins! haha n/t

[Enthusiast]

369. Hair growing from their

butt crack to the nape of their neck. :rofl:

[2Design]

29. yellow terror alert - campaign time - bullshit detection

now put my show back on - this sucks

I don't believe the government

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[SoCalDemGrrl]

85. You've got to be kidding- right?? The story of the decade & u want DWTS??

[2Design]

247. ok they have known a week but now it's late breaking?

ok they have known a week but now it's late breaking? interrupted all tv? how many more enemies just like that 1 were created last 10 years

[SoCalDemGrrl]

314. I understand this occurred YEsterdAY-not 1 week ago JEEZ!!!

[boppers]

337. Didn't happen a week ago.

That source was wrong.

[Cherchez la Femme]

473. "Late breaking" on a Sunday eve...

Seems to me the exact opposite of a Friday afternoon news dump

...like it couldn't be released on a, oh, Wed. afternoon, let's say?


Don't get me wrong, I'm glad the evil bastard is finally dead,
but it took over 10,000 American lives, 100's of thousands of deaths of human beings in other countries (including many women, children & other innocents) and we're STILL smack in the center of 2 wars? Something which bin Laden wanted to happen?!

Plus bin Laden is now a true martyr to many.


--a damn poor trade-off. He played us like a violin.

[krkaufman]

300. Update your cynicism, chum.

Color-coded terror alerts have been thrown out.

[Cherchez la Femme]

468. I don't like it either

especially that whole "burial at sea" business...

No better way to start some serious, at least partly credible, 'Conspiracy Theories' :eyes:

[Skinner]

30. YEAH!

!!!

[dflprincess]

31. This is what they interupted "Brothers & Sisters" for?

I thought the big announcement was going to be something important.

I wonder what the excuse(s) for continuing the war(s) will be now.

[StClone]

57. Soory, You can go back to FR now

[SoCalDemGrrl]

95. He was responsible for the death of 1,000s and we have finally got him & u want

to watch sunday TV drivel??? Jeez. WTF is your problem??

[dflprincess]

162. And how many people has the U.S. killed in its supposed attempt to "get Bin Laden"

not to mention spending us into bankruptcy and using that as an excuse to destroy what little bit of a social safety net this country has and don't forget the way he was used as an excuse to curtail our rights.

Bin Laden may be dead but he is the one who came closer to his goal by getting the U.S. government to use him as the excuse to destroy the country.

I don't think his death was worth what it cost us.

[SoCalDemGrrl]

309. Your response does not even derserve a reply - Pathetic

[cpwm17]

338. No, the post is exactly right

Tearing apart two countries, causing mayhem in Pakistan and elsewhere, plus harming America's civil rights and economy is not even close to being worth it to get one criminal.

[Swagman]

344. trying to deny what you accurately state is a denial of reality.

For 10 years the bogie man Bin Laden has been used to decimate people's rights and been used as areason to kill hundreds of thousands of innocents.

I see no cause here for celebration and I'm cynical about anything the government claims.

The same song and dance was played when Saddam's sons were killed and then when Saddam dragged out of his fox-hole. It changed nothing..not a single bloody thing.

Musharif said 5 years ago Bin Laden was dead.

[Cherchez la Femme]

500. Well over twice the number which were killed on 9/11

9/11: over 2700

Iraq: over 4700

Afghanistan: over 2700
(Counting ALL 9/11 deaths as "American")

--these numbers are to the best of my memory (Full disclosure: my memory has not been truly good though, as of late: but I think these are darn close)


However, I took your complaining about breaking into a teevee show as sarcasm. Seems I was wrong.

The only problem I have with this 'Breaking News' is they used it as the antithesis of the Friday afternoon information dump;
it was sat on for days so it would be timed perfectly to be the water cooler nine-day-wonder topic of conversation

--like releasing the info on a Tuesday or Wednesday wouldn't still have the same effect...
but, as others have brought up, the timing was also the anniversary of Little Boots' "Mission Accomplished".

True, but IMO no less compelling if it WASN'T the anniversary of that political theatre: This manipulation was just more political theatre.


edit: typo, syntax

[stockholmer]

528. +100000 for not drinking the koolaid

[2Design]

252. My thoughts exactly - ok they have known a week but now it's late breaking?

ok they have known a week but now it's late breaking? interrupted all tv? how many more enemies just like that 1 were created last 10 years

[iverglas]

282. yeah, like he couldn't have managed another 20 minutes late

Fortunately, we have time shifting, so if we're lucky this won't go on all night. I suspect it will.

More seriously, it's really very unfortunate Obama chose the night before our election in Canada.

Stephen Harper will be making a speech shortly as the Prime Minister (i.e. not just as the candidate he has been for the last month), and things are running so close here that even the tiny fraction of the vote this could influence might have a real and awful effect.

[RedCloud]

32. Limbaugh" Why couldn't Obama kill him quicker like Bush did?"

[krkaufman]

305. huh? n/t

[craigmatic]

33. Obama just won re-election. He's the fucking man.

[Kind of Blue]

108. Indeed, He Is! Couldn't have said it better. n/t

[krkaufman]

307. eh, far too long before the election ...

... and the election will hinge on the economy. It will definitely give Obama a boost, but he'll still be screwed if unemployment is still near 10%.

[cbdo2007]

34. This just cemented President Obama's reelection.

[StevieM]

145. He was going to win re-election anyway. (eom)

[cbdo2007]

209. I know....I think so too. But if there was any question....that has no dissolved.

He will win easily now. No contest.

[Initech]

36. End these fucking wars now!!!

[jefferson_dem]

49. Well, we ended that fucker's breath...

:patriot:

[Bombero1956]

37. will Trump dare run against the president that got Osama?

I don't know that anyone would speak out against Obama now. Maybe I'm dreaming

[Rosa Luxemburg]

538. I doubt it

[StClone]

38. Obama Got him! Wingers will attack like Terrorists

[Cherchez la Femme]

503. Is that a play

on 'attack like Terriers'?

Heh, as a Terrier admirer & all-around animal enthusiast, I like it :)

[spooky3]

39. Gregory/MSNBC: He was killed by US action.

[madrchsod]

41. that means there`s a move-up in senority.....

so who`s the new number one?

[dixiegrrrrl]

111. Bet the new # 2 is quaking in his boots.

We have killed #2 a gazillion times.

[rpannier]

198. The number 2 guy gets the red Star Trek shirt nt

[Cherchez la Femme]

505. Standard issue :D

[Kali]

hard to tell

didn't we already get 30 or 40 number two guys?:crazy:

[nxylas]

425. Who is Number 1?

You are Number 6.

[tammywammy]

42. And they have his body. n/t

[Turborama]

43. Al Jazeera English are reporting it. Link to watch them online --->

http://english.aljazeera.net/watch_now/

& Live stream on their YouTube channel...

http://www.youtube.com/user/AlJazeeraEnglish

[freshwest]

210. Thanks a million for the link! I'm listening to Obama right now...

[Ken Burch]

45. Has Trump demanded to see the death certificate yet?

:eyes:

[spooky3]

56. only the "long form" will do

[Auntie Bush]

70. LOL

[klook]

96. Brilliant (n/t)

[svpadgham]

176. Good one.

How long before that gets stolen by late night comedy shows?

[Ken Burch]

193. I'm guessing Leno uses it tomorrow.

He'll screw it up, but he'll use it...

[AC_Mem]

190. hahaha

good one!

[99th_Monkey]

279. +1

[AngryAmish]

360. close the internet, we have t a winner!

[AsahinaKimi]

46. If its FOX NEWS then you can expect the follow up as :

GEORGE W. BUSH personally killed bin Laden by having him snort incredible amounts of Cocaine, and once dead, Bush was said to reply " See? I kept my promise!"..

Yeah right, Fox news..the LEGITIMATE news network! :sarcasm:

[U4ikLefty]

47. So they finally pulled his body from the freezer?

:hide:

[StClone]

I believe it why not you?

[Swagman]

345. can't quite put my finger on it but there are reasons I've begun to doubt

claims from the government in later years.

[Enthusiast]

371. You having that too?

Oh ye of little faith.:rofl:

[humblebum]

408. Amen to that! nt

[jakeXT]

68. Maybe they needed room for something else ?

[slay]

77. heheh

ehhh.. could be..

[Democracydiva]

270. I think I am going be sick...

..As if we were told the truth about Pat Tillman, Jessica Lynch and 9/11...?!!! Puleeeze!!!
http://english.pravda.ru/world/asia/15-01-2008/103426-benazir_bhutto_osama-0/
...Oh well...hundreds of thousand of dead and wounded innocents and and thousands of dead and wounded troops...Whatever it takes to save face...right?

Just bring the troops (and private contractors) home now...!

[Cherchez la Femme]

475. Maybe we can leave the private contractors there...

let them stay & 'fight' on their own, mercenary-style, with no U.S. forces to back them up.

I wonder how long until they declare 'Mission Accomplished' and, unlike when Bush declared it, run back home?

[neverforget]

48. We finally got the Number 1

[whatwasthequestion]

53. Yep, so they say....

....and the US has is in possession of body, according to Geraldo - Fox news

[StClone]

65. They got his birth & death certificate

[jbeing]

231. Long Form?

He was very tall.

[FarLeftFist]

59. Greatest CIC in a LONG time. n/t

[jtuck004]

60. Wars over. Do they sell champagne in Spokane on a Sunday?

Will that get people out in the streets? Nothing else has.

[iwishiwas]

63. have a latte and rum.

[jtuck004]

75. I could do Kahlua and coffee. I'm a bad Washingtonian, don't drink latte. ;) eom

[iwishiwas]

142. well, Kahlua will do for the java--yummy:-)

[Bucky]

61. It's about fucking time. Almost ten years--because of Iraq. Thank God.

I hope all his 72 virgins are ugly.

[krispos42]

99. And clumsy n/t

[quakerboy]

214. Naw. Nubile, beautiful, amazing tempting, talented,

Militantly feminist lesbians. Thats what he needs. 72 of them.

[Lucky Luciano]

222. I like Family Guy's take on this when a suicide bomber is in heaven

and he sees his 72 virgins - a bunch of whiny D&D nerds and other super geeks. The bomber yells out "OSAMA!!!!"

[Cherchez la Femme]

476. "because of Iraq"?

Sorry, I don't get it.
Please explain.

[iwishiwas]

58. Obama will address the nation and will say that the US has the body.

[Arkana]

62. I wouldn't be surprised if Obama used this to get out of Afghanistan.

With Panetta's move to the DoD and now Osama's death, the time is right.

[slay]

80. We can only hope

i wish - but i doubt it

[totodeinhere]

91. I very seriously doubt that. But we shall see. n.t

[alarimer]

170. And into Pakistan.

According to one story I read, he was in Islamabad when he was killed.

[No Elephants]

391. No. In a mansion about 62 miles outside Islamabad.

[Cherchez la Femme]

477. I would.

[mvd]

64. Always thought he's a figurehead for U.S. aggression, but...

this would assure Obama's re-election. How can the Repukes attack the President on foreign policy now?

[Arkana]

69. Yeah, this one's gonna be a real head-scratcher for them.

Obama gets to be the President who "got" Osama bin Laden, regardless of how it actually happened.

[cbdo2007]

98. Yep - George Snuffalufagus just said that exact thing.

[me b zola]

174. They always attack someone's strengths

Kerry, a war-hero, well you saw what they did to him all the while pimping a sniveling awol coke snorting rich brat.

They attacked Obama for being smart, educated, spiritual, and working in his community.

That doesn't mean that this time the smears will work, but you can bet they are already huddled furiously planning how to smear Obama over this. Its what they do.

[mvd]

224. True, but this should be hard for even them to spin

It's an achievement they can't take away, IMO.

[me b zola]

267. I think you're right, their spin won't work this time

:beer:

[Cherchez la Femme]

479. Or they attack over things that they themselves do

sometimes preemptively.

Yep. It's what they do,
and 'muricans fall for it. :(

[iwishiwas]

66. Almost 10 years. But our new normal IS the norm now.

[MilesColtrane]

71. Barack Obama: Cleaning up Bush's big Pile o' Fail since 2008

[spooky3]

164. love the slogan! +1

[brooklynite]

72. Who thinks Al Quaeda will make a special effort to pull off a terrorist action...

...to prove that they're still "relevant"?

[krkaufman]

323. Danger is not just "al Qaeda"

This could easily inspire many lone wolf type attacks.

[cbdo2007]

73. "killed in a strike a few days ago along with 25 other people" - ABC

[OmahaBlueDog]

74. Thank you, President Obama, for doing something that should have been done at Tora Bora

[cbdo2007]

82. Yep, this *would* have happened 8 years ago if we hadn't gone into Iraq.

[Cherchez la Femme]

481. If we didn't invade other countries

(other than Saudi Arabia, bin Laden's home country & the vast majority of the terrorists-- 9/11 & other incidents)

the world would have been behind us all the way, and bin Laden wouldn't have lasted long at all.


Ohhh, but all that OIL! That sweet, sweet, light crude!
All that Pure Profit$ for not U.S. but International Corporations!
WHO (if you're an obscenely wealthy CEO, or ex-CEO -- the only people that matter!) could resist? *swoon*

[Wind Dancer]

317. Those were my first thoughts.

[d_b]

78. Good.

[Kurovski]

79. I think the world is fairly well pleased to bid binny farewell.

[SoapBox]

81. ...happy dance!

This is a great day.

Guess this might put a damper on their big announcement that they were going to start their Spring Kill Spree.

[lumberingbear]

86. Hey Birthers, Wingnuts and Repugs......

your "Muslim" president has killed bin Laden.

[Cherchez la Femme]

482. They'll use that as the basis for (yet another) Conspiracy Theory

Mark my words.

[isuphighyeah]

87. President Obama will be easily reelected.

I'm thinking of the families of the victims of 9/11 right now.

[still_one]

138. No guarantee, but it should squash the nuts saying he is soft on terror. /nt

[Cherchez la Femme]

484. You believe so? Really?

When did reality ever quash these people's fantasies?

[Libertas1776]

90. While i don't believe this in anyway

justifies the deaths of so many Americans and other nationals in the years following this murderer's orchestrations...I will still say this. I'm glad the FUCKER is dead. He should have been 10 years ago. May he burn forever.

[wisteria]

94. I am not one to cheer someones death, but this man was responsible for murdering 3,000 innocents.

It is good to know he will not be able to plot the deaths of any more people.

[Cherchez la Femme]

485. Many more than just 3,000

a muslim African nation chased him out because of his slaughter of their people.

It was just Death For Jihad that turned that Saudi freak on.

[high density]

97. We killed him in Pakistan

With some of his family

[muntrv]

101. Are they sure it is him? I know he would often hang around with look alikes.

[cbdo2007]

117. They saved his sister's brain after she died after 9/11 for DNA samples

to make sure they really got him. This according to ABC.

[quakerboy]

217. Well thats just gruesome

Why the brain? You can get dna from a cheek swab. So why a brain?

[northofdenali]

376. Grusome? I'd pay money to see his body. - especailly cremated

I have yet another cousin who was a "first responder" at the Twin Towers on 9/11/2001. She just recetly died from the smoke/trash etc. in NYC.

Your youth is showing. :hug:

[Cherchez la Femme]

491. I believe quakerboy was talking about saving the sisters brain

(Edit: to be clear): as being gruesome.

not what was done to bin Laden's body.

Nor would it look good to tour his body so 'muricans could be filmed abusing a corpse -- no matter whose it was.

But this burial at sea was one bad idea...

[quakerboy]

548. You got it in one

Why did we keep his Sisters brain? That just seems odd, if true. I mean, did she offer her body to science or something? Did we have the whole body to use, and just chose brain tissue for the hell of it?

[snooper2]

449. brains fill nicely in a jar

[Cherchez la Femme]

492. Swabs take up much less space

nor are as gruesome, to copy, but agree with, quakerboy's sentiment & excellent choice of words.

[Cherchez la Femme]

488. Cause that's the way they roll

:puke:

[craigmatic]

102. So can we call Obama the best president ever yet? He's at least the best of the last 40 years.nt

[totodeinhere]

112. Well, shrub never got close to Bin Laden. But our great president got him.

Right wing heads must be exploding right now.

[Cherchez la Femme]

493. Yes he did

Tora-Bora, remember?

But he called his war dogs off. IIRC, according to Rumsfeld there were "better targets" in Iraq!
(As in physical targets, certainly not (in) principle)!

[totodeinhere]

511. Well yes, he might have got physically close to OBL. But

I was speaking metaphorically.

[Cherchez la Femme]

515. Easy to do if you don't really want to

If metaphor: Agreed.

[Arkana]

115. No, but now I can imagine Obama as Bruce Campbell

from "Evil Dead" with a sword in one hand and Osama's head in the other.

[Cherchez la Femme]

494. Great image. SO Old Testament!

:puke:

[lunasun]

256. Agree History will remember him for this

[JCMach1]

103. This is great news...

[tammywammy]

104. Great news!

:bounce:

[totodeinhere]

CNN reporting that Bin Laden and other family members were taken out.

Now let's see if there is any retaliation against the USA.

[Kat45]

105. Ironically it's the 8th anniversary of "Mission Accomplished." n/t

[Pooka Fey]

403. Good catch!!! n/t

[jimnasium]

106. YES!!!

Rest in Pieces, Fucker!!!

[theHandpuppet]

109. I hope the mofo is burning in hell as I type

This bastard's death is great news.

[Matilda]

114. I guess Obama just sewed up the 2012 election.

Unless Donald Trump personally took out Bin Laden.

[democrattotheend]

188. Let's not get cocky

As someone on DailyKos just pointed out, Bush 41 seemed unbeatable after the the Gulf War around this time in his presidency and we all know what happened in 1992.

[Enthusiast]

375. Gasoline could go to $6.00 a gallon. nt

[Cherchez la Femme]

495. I believe I recently read

in certain U.S. places it already is.

[Enthusiast]

531. I believe this could seriously

compromise Obama's chance of re-election.

[Prisoner_Number_Six]

116. Fat Osama or skinny Osama?

It's important.

Does this mean everybody can go home now?

[klook]

118. Wow, this has been a rough few weeks for Glenn Beck

...or maybe this is the culmination of Soros's plan, so now Obama can be crowned (or turbanned) as the new leader of the Al Qaeda / Democrat Caliphate.

[Cherchez la Femme]

496. Are you channelling Beck?

*suspicious*


:P

[klook]

520. Heh

It's pretty easy to guess his thought process (or lack thereof) on this one...

[happyslug]

119. I am actually Scared of this, depends on how popular bin Laden is in the Middle East.

Bin Laden's death could be used as a rallying cry by radicals that is what Mark Anthony did on the death of Julius Caesar. It has been done by others since that time, thus it is sometime NOT good policy to kill someone like bin Laden. Given the situation in the Middle East, could be grounds for popular revolts throughout from Pakistan to Egypt.

There is an old saying, be careful what you wish for, you may get it. In some ways that he is death is a problem the US and the West MUST address. Hopefully the US has a plan to make any use of his death by radical minimal, but we shall see.

[ChiciB1]

127. Richard Engle Said A Few Minutes Ago That He Felt It Could Be A Big Plus...

He's been in the region for a very long time, but I for one wouldn't dare to gander a guess!

[vaberella]

240. wow...huge deal. n/t

[craigmatic]

129. You're right he has to play this just right or it'll provoke a backlash.

It's sort of like the berlin wall coming down moment of this administration. Still I think the muslim world is more interested in democracy now and bin laden will be largely forgotten.

[Ghost Dog]

364. I think the Muslim world is interested in democracy now, but is more interested,

mostly interested, I'd say, in economic equity. People are fed up with the concentration of the wealth (yes, as well as the power) of the Islamic World in so few hands, with all the distortions of social as well as economic priorities, the associated cronyism or unemployment, the police state apparatus and so on that entails, and want to see economic opportunities spread much more widely around.

Democracy? Sure. Democratic Socialism, even? Now you're talking. But everybody knows that what 'The West' calls democracy - the money-puppet media game of establishment party politics - would be little different compared to what goes down today in most of the Muslim world. Indonesia, Bangladesh, Pakistan, Turkey, Iran even, (so, aren't we really talking about the Arab World?) have already taken this latter route, with (just as in the USA), for sure, Generals of powerful military forces never very far away from the seats of power.

[fortyfeetunder]

166. +1

I do not rejoice at this news.

[ChiciB1]

189. It's A MAY DAY, MAY DAY Type Of Thing... So Ironic! n/t

[quakerboy]

228. I think thats a lesser angle

How popular he is seems like a lesser issue to me. The greater is how Obama will leverage this. Does he use it to carefully back out of these battles, to stop sending predator drones that blow up terrorist safe houses and family weddings with equal ease? Does he allow the hawks to continue fighting whatever battles they want, or does he reign them in and attempt to become a partner in advancing freedom? That is what will make OBL either a martyr to inspire or the forgotten terrorist who lost.

[Cherchez la Femme]

510. "Hawks" from the Pentagon

--at least a few, but they are very high in the echelon--
released a paper last week saying that the U.S. way overreacted and that the country should be concentrating and using its resources (and much less blood) not on War, Invading Countries & Nation Building, but on actual (as opposed to causing fear in what just may happen --BOO!-- ...no matter the small probability & relatively small death toll, along with massive blowback) problems impacting the physical welfare

i.e. Health & Welfare of its citizens; addressing wide-spread problems with bridges, roads, dams & other infrastructure, economics (JOBS!), Constitutional rights, etc.

of its citizens.


Well, that's what I got out of this paper anyhow... One of the few times I've felt very proud of my country in a while.



Apologies, the grammar and apparent logical processes may appear to suck in this post -- I'm just trying to put complex thoughts & feelings down before I've had time to completely grok it all...

[RaleighNCDUer]

310. First you have to recognize that 90% of Bin Laden was myth.

He was never a huge leader - more an organizing bureaucrat. He got a number of diverse, already existant terror groups talking to each other, coordinating their plans, but most are just local groups and have no interest in international terrorism. He provided seed money, and had a couple thousand people go through his training camps. His reputation came almost entirely from US propaganda.

Seriously, if they were really all that dangerous, and there were tens of thousands of them, then why so few attacks? NY, London, Madrid. A smattering of lesser ones. You'd expect a Madrid scale attack every other week. US-friendly heads of state assassinated. Attacks on the US. On US flagged ships overseas. General terror, like the Red Brigade attack on the Tel Aviv airport where all it would take is to have a couple guys with guns and grenades to kill dozens.

Bin Laden, whle definitely a bad guy who's well gone, is simply not that important. The only people he's popular with are those who have no need of an excuse to get crazy in the first place.

[kath]

506. +100

[DeSwiss]

120. They should be sure to get a copy of his long form death certificate....

- K&R

[ChiciB1]

121. Well, REPUKES... Watcha Gonna DO NOW? This Has Got To Be A Monumental

EGO buster! No matter that Bin Laden hasn't been talked about in a very, very long time the REPUKES must be gnashing their pointy little teeth!

Pardon the war term, but this is an ENORMOUS COUP! They'll probably say it was done by this administration to ensure Obama's re-election. 3500 people killed on 9/11, this is the 3,500 hundredth day since then. I just heard that on MSNBC! Weird and ironic!

AND they are saying they have HIS BODY too with DNA matches!

[sensate2000]

122. Also Breaking: Bush just finished MY PET GOAT.

[truthisfreedom]

140. The Pet Goat. Common mistake.

[donheld]

196. But he still doesn't understand it

[livefreest]

123. strange that they have his body . was he in a place they can not only bomb him but ...

retrieve his body too? i never would have thought that after bombing people you can get their body

[sensate2000]

135. Bodies are retrieved from rubble all the time.

What's the big deal? Time to loosen your tinfoil hat.

[livefreest]

191. loosen my tinfoil hat? NEVER!

:tinfoilhat: it's firmly on. i really am interested in the story of how they retrieved the body if that's the real story

[Cherchez la Femme]

512. Easy!

He used women as "human shields"!

Isn't that what the worst of the worst Mooslims always do?


Sorry, of course it just may be true
but I've heard that phrase used all too much -- many times it's been completely disproven.

As if bin Laden wasn't evil enough! Heck, I'm surprised they haven't announced he had horns growing from his temples, a forked tongue and a barbed tail -- he was no mere mortal but suprahuman, I tell's ya!

:eyes:

[Cherchez la Femme]

550. Argh, sorry

in my previous post I never did get around to spelling right out that since he used women as shields' that his body would be pretty much unscratched.

Hopefully that could have been deduced, but I never did actually specify that was the gist of my post.

Sorry!

[cullen7282]

226. he wasn't bombed

CIA shot him in the head

[nolabels]

124. Okay what other news is getting glossed over because of this story?

Call me a skeptic and anybody with half a brain knows Bin Laden was just another scapegoat\patsy for something more evil x(

Now they will try to bury it all with him and it is also most obvious that every government across the globe is being scrutinized by its' own citizens. This thing seems like it is being dealt from the same deck of cards

[Odin2005]

125. Hey Freepers, OBAMA GOT OSAMA!!!

[totodeinhere]

130. Yes, it was our GREAT president who got him. n/t

[freshwest]

238. I can't stomach Freeperville. Anyone who can, record the whining for us...

[Turborama]

132. Link to CNN live stream for anyone who doesn't have cable --->

http://www.cnn.com/video/flashLive/live.html?stream=stream1&hpt=C1

[DissedByBush]

133. Did in two years what Bush couldn't in seven

Shrub has to be crying in his beer right now.

[DailyGrind]

430. I kind of doubt Obama started from scratch on innaguration day

These threads all started years ago.

I would like to know, and I'm sure we'll hear all about it, if Obama specifically asked for different directions to be taken or made strategic moves that Bush didn't that led to this result.

If he can show, or at least indicate that, his re-election probability just went way way up.

[Turborama]

136. Here's the MSNBC link you can add to the OP

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42852700/ns/world_news-south_and_central_asia/

[DesMoinesDem]

137. It only cost 6,000 american soldiers and over a trillion dollars.

What a great deal! :eyes:

[iwishiwas]

157. :-(

[kath]

And 1.5-2 million dead Iraquis,

plus dawg knows how many dead Afghani civilians.

The terrorists have won, anyway - I want the Bill of Rights back.

[Enthusiast]

377. Exactly....nt

[lunasun]

143. fireworks going off in my neighborhood!

[cecilfirefox]

144. YES! Good riddance! Listening to the crowd outside the WH on CNN now! Gods bless America! NT

[democrattotheend]

205. I wish I still lived in DC

I used to work a block from the White House.

Then again, being in NYC with a view of the financial district is kind of fitting. All year, it has made me really sad that I would have had a view of the Twin Towers if they hadn't been knocked down. On the anniversary they lit up where the towers used to be and since then every day looking out my window is a reminder. Obviously, Bin Laden being dead doesn't change what happened or bring anyone back but I'm still really glad he is dead. Maybe I am a hypocrite because I don't believe in the death penalty, but I feel like this is different, because it's an act of war.

[Firebrand Gary]

146. Wooooo Hoooooo

Bout damn time.

[GReedDiamond]

148. CIA asset recalled with extreme prejudice...nt

[kath]

273. a-yup.

[iwishiwas]

149. People showing up at gates of WH. cnn showing. and wolfe talking of the US showing

power in the world. oh god!!

[iwishiwas]

151. It is shameful-Wolfe talking about the US projecting the image of world power.

[musette_sf]

150. everybody sing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uA-SxvDfsQE

[Blacksheep214]

152. What to do with the corpse

Me? I would hack him up and feed him to hogs!

He can end up as the pig shit he was alive!

:patriot: Semper Fi

[whatwasthequestion]

171. Best suggestion

I've heard.

[Volaris]

384. is it possible that the Saudi State Govt. would ask for the body to be returned?

I can't imagine even THEY would do something so stupid.....

[Turborama]

153. CNN reporting he was killed in a mansion outside Islamabad, Pakistan's capital n/t

[Blacksheep214]

154. Dupe post

[jtuck004]

159. Sell it on ebay. Donate the money to military survivors. eom

[liberation]

155. Thousands upon thousands of innocent foreign and US casualties, 10 years, 1 trillions dollars...

... and our constitution trashed just to get one jackass with bad kidneys living in a cave.

Winning!

[S_E_Fudd]

158. Uh no...

Bush's foreign misadventures had nothing to do with getting bin Laden

[Cherchez la Femme]

513. What?!

Bin Laden & his Al Quada were the fucking raison d'etre for all our invasions and record-setting war(s)!

Please explain how you can say that.

[Mimosa]

165. IF it was really him. n/t

[totodeinhere]

187. CNN is reporting that they have his body and can prove it. n/t

[Go2Peace]

359. Both MSNBC and BBC reporting he was "buried at sea"

[Suji to Seoul]

156. Bastard is dead

Let's hope Allah has a sense of humor and gives him 73 Virginians instead of virgins. . . that way he can spend his eternity getting punked and slammed by Americans! Rot in Hell, you bastard!!!

On that, BRING THE TROOPS HOME NOW!!!

[Turbineguy]

161. Thanks to

George W. Bush!

Or would you rather hear it from Rush Limbaugh?

[woo me with science]

163. We need a new chart!

Like the pirate one, but comparing Presidents who killed Osama bin Laden!

[RainDog]

167. The Bush-bin Laden era is over

Time to restore sanity.

[stanwyck]

173. Yes. I totally agree, RainDog. n/t

[zinnisking]

243. I hope you're right. The Osama bin Bush era brought out the worst in all Americans.

[christx30]

168. Bin laden

is not dead until Donald Trump sees the death certificate.

[Firebrand Gary]

169. Read this Facebook post from my right winger relative. Unbelievable

Kellye: great weekend!! no obama u didn't kill laden the troops did!!!! some people take credit when they don't deserve it at all!!!! especially Him, one president I really don't like at all!!!!!!
16 minutes ago via BlackBerry · Like ·
2 people like this.

Gary: Kellye, I have about had it with your ridiculous attitude. You have no idea what you are talking about. What the hell has happened to you?
9 minutes ago · Like

Kevin: i agree with Gary try running the most powerful nation Kellye. Stop being so negative he is the best President we have had in our lifetime
5 minutes ago · Unlike · 1 person

I am so looking forward to deleting this relative when my cooler head prevails.

[edbermac]

My reply: Obama is not taking credit for killing him.

And what did the monkey in a flight suit do after 9/11 to nail OBL?

Clinton tried to take out Al-Qaeda, Obama okayed the operation to get him, and Shrub did JACK SHIT for 7 years except for looking for imaginary WMD's.

[DinahMoeHum]

534. Moral: Never send a Republican to do a Democrat's job.

Thank You Mr. President (Obama)

:kick::kick::kick:

[edbermac]

223. dupe delete

[garthranzz]

175. WHEN WILL PRESIDENT SPEAK?

The suspense is getting to me.

[Flatulo]

177. Best news in 10 years. Thank you Mr. President for

finishing the job that Bush fumbled.

Too bad Iraq and Afghanistan had to be destroyed in the process.

[idrahaje]

178. now can we get back to our shows

Brothers and Sisters was right in the middle of a major item and poof. cliffhanger

[lonestarnot]

179. People singing the Star Spangled Banner at the White House.

Coo. Maybe I can blow out my candle soon! :woohoo:

[PlanetBev]

181. Watch Pigboy and Hannity's heads explode

Osama Bin Laden has been brought down on Obama's watch. I guarantee you, there will be major meltdowns in Wingnut World. :nuke:

[AC_Mem]

182. This is the President's win

He said that we needed to go to Pakistan to get OBL, and now we have him.

Now we need to get out of there. Enough is enough.

The terrorist is dead, and he was caught while Obama was President.

Eat it GOP.

Annette

[The Nexus]

199. I hate the GOP with every fiber as much as the next DUer

lets not make this political this time.

[Blasphemer]

489. Of course, it's political

The President is the CiC and makes decisions that impact what the military does and does not do. I think if Bush & co. had led competently, this would have happened years ago. Bush was an incompetent CiC.

[The Nexus]

526. And Bush was one person

take it to him. If we go around saying "in your face neocon GOP" it will come back to haunt us.

[Cherchez la Femme]

514. But, honey, be assured *they* will...

[The Nexus]

527. Let *them*

it will be *they're* undoing :)

[Cherchez la Femme]

532. One can only hope...

[truthisfreedom]

184. This has been quite the week. Obama releases long-form birth certificate,

Trump claims victory in forcing Obama's hand, Obama ridicules Trump at the correspondents' dinner, and now he does what bush couldn't do... he gets the bad guy we love to hate.

The rethugs are gonna be damned confused about what to do for some time to come. His re-election is assured as long as he keeps his nose clean for the next year and a half, and the Dems have the upper hand politically for a while too.

Good work, Mr President. You've saved us all a lot of contribution money.

[SoapBox]

185. Osama bin Forgotten...can now be forgotten.

[iwishiwas]

186. 'they are bringing American flags" -wolfe is fascinated by the celebration of the death.

[ChiciB1]

195. Too Many Lied, To Many Died... A Parody From A Jackson Browne Song...

Too Many Angels!

[The Nexus]

194. Tinker tape parade is comin next nt

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[thelordofhell]

201. Mission "Actually" Accomplished

:patriot:

[SoapBox]

227. Thanks for the reminder! On May 1, 2003 Bush...

read about what the clown did, here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_Mission_Accomplished_Speech

[cstanleytech]

202. Considering how many nuts in this world remain

killing one doesnt mean much imo atleast other than to satisfy the need for revenge that some people feel.

[guitar man]

203. Let's not forget

"I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority."
- G.W. Bush, 3/13/02

every time a right winger tries to credit Bu$h in any way, I'm going to throw it right in their face. :evilgrin:

[MrMickeysMom]

I'm sure he and others have known where to find him...

Look for the kidney failure section of the ICU at Langley

You never leave the agency.

[colorado_ufo]

274. And let's not forget,

"He's been marginalized." GW Bush

[bluestateboomer]

204. He's dead, but I think he still won.

He got us to spend our fortune and sacrifice many lives. His activities got us to discard our ideals and shred the constitution. He was probably responsible for most all the evils we claim, but we are hardly coming out of this situation innocent or unscathed. The W regime was the group that instigated the "War on Terror" in response to the crimes of bin Laden, but I don't think the the Obama administration can or will put our Humpty Dumpty country back together.

[prayin4rain]

216. Ugh. I get so sick of you defeatist types .....

bin laden and people like him will never "win"

[bluestateboomer]

236. OK wave the flag, It's alright

Just don't ask where the money went or if you have habeus corpus rights or why the war needs to continue.

[primavera]

241. I agree

I always wondered whether OBL had us pegged all along and knew that, with the right provocation, we would destroy ourselves so much more thoroughly than any outside force ever could. He must have been laughing his ass off for the last ten years, having succeeded beyond his wildest dreams.

[Pholus]

242. Well, all in all, it's better he's gone.

So it's a success. And it erases our failures from earlier.

[bluestateboomer]

260. Yeah it is better he's gone

but we've got a lot to do to repair the destruction he enabled. Are we up to it? I don't know.

[Pholus]

547. Life says we have to be.

:)

[No Elephants]

385. And he knew it He taped, saying all they had to do was "chatter" and the U.S. would spend billions.

[Turborama]

206. It was a well planned (since August) special forces operation with hand to hand combat, not a drone

And they "took custody of the body".

President Obama just now.

ETA shame they couldn't capture him alive and put him on trial. I suppose that would have caused all manner of security issues, though.

[JohnnyRingo]

215. Good to know OBL's last act of terror was in his pants..

There's your dirty bomb.

[GReedDiamond]

220. Cool, just like in a Hollywood Movie...

...soon to be in a theater near you, in 3D and 3D Imax where available.

But seriously, however it happened, congrats to the Obama Administration from the grateful American Peeps, re: Bin Laden of the CIA, al queda, the taliban whatever/whoever, is dead. Good riddance to bad rubbish.

[KeyserSoze87]

207. Obama's approval ratings are going to skyrocket.

I think it's safe to say that the president has officially been reelected.

:kick:

[Adenoid_Hynkel]

208. and Dick Cheney loses his "obama is weak" talking point

or, so he would if he had any sense of honesty. the GOP still will find some way to attack Obama for this.

[JohnnyRingo]

211. No doubt who's getting credit for this (along with the troops).

He oversaw the plot and Ok'd the mission to take him out. This is the stuff movies are made of.
The Freeps can bury that line that Obama is a friend of terrorists along with the body.

[cherish44]

213. Well now I know which of my friends are wingnuts and which are sane

Seriously all they can do is bitch on Facebook about how Obama's getting credit

[TomCADem]

218. Remember Rudy Giuliani Saying The U.S. Was Never Attacked Under Bush?

The truth does not matter for the GOP. Look at the whole birther controversy.

[LetTimmySmoke]

219. +1

This is a good thing, no doubt.

[high density]

221. wow, du in high capacity mode

haven't seen this in ages!

[vaberella]

269. thanks for saying this. I forgot why they have X's next to the name. n/t

[Historic NY]

225. Splendid news. Thank you US Military.

[kath]

229. Now can I get on a fucking airplane without having my genitals groped or being irradiated?

Can we bring back the fucking 4th amendment and stop torturing people?

Tell me how my life is going to be any different tomorrow because of this? Should have been a brief 2-minute announcement and didn't require 45 minutes of bloviating.

[Arkana]

232. Actually the media spent two hours bloviating. Obama spent about 5 minutes on a statement.

The media will continue to bloviate over the next few days.

[bdamomma]

414. well they can't report on the wedding anymore!!

the media will be focused on this for a while.

[high density]

233. Nope, we will continue to strip search you, me, grandma, kiddies, etc to get on a plane

We gotta be safe, ya know.

[primavera]

339. +1 n/t

[Rosa Luxemburg]

234. Obama has slayed the Dragon

I wonder which cave the Dragon was in?

[Gregorian]

237. This just in- Bush family in mourning.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

244. Bush's #1 patsy. They will have to find another Emanual Goldstein

Cheney must also be heartbroken!

[BreweryYardRat]

239. Score.

Good riddance to bad rubbish.

[InvisibleTouch]

245. Well, good. End of an unhappy era, and all. Now can we get back to normal? n/t

[bhikkhu]

248. Not many deaths deserve cheers, but I hope the world can move on now

OBL was way past his "sell by" date anyway, I think, but this could be a turning point, along with the "Arab Spring" movement, shaping a new middle east...I hope so, and many thanks to the president and the soldiers!

I'd also hope that we get the full story at some point - what did OBL do after Tora Bora, and how has he stayed alive and out of sight this long?

and on edit: reading that we "have the body", I hope that it is treated with care and respect, according to the applicable customs. The chapter should be closed with all care.

[UndertheOcean]

250. Hasta la vista motherfucker ! n/t

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[rollin74]

253. all I can say is...

:patriot: :bounce: :toast: :kick: :applause: :party: :woohoo: :patriot:

that is all.

[4lbs]

254. See what happens when you have a POTUS that actually reads and acts on an August PDB?

.

[Doris32r]

255. First contact... ;)

Okay, I must admit, there was a brief moment when they were first saying something very important is going to be announced that I thought it might be an announcement about first contact with alien like...though this is good too! Go Obama!!! Though a little green guy standing next to him saying 'we come in peace' would have been awesome!

[myrna minx]

257. I thought he died years ago, but ok! n/t

[bdamomma]

417. I thought so too.

After the Bhutto and David Frost interview didn't she say he was dead?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x66909

[FarLeftFist]

258. AMERICAAAA! FUCK YEAH!

[UndertheOcean]

259. ..

[nolabear]

262. Apparently he's been dead for a week. Imagine sitting on THAT while Trump brays at you!

[cbdo2007]

276. no, the mission happened today.

[nolabear]

285. Huh...that's not what the (forgive me) Fox crawl said.

[cbdo2007]

291. turn off that shit channel

You're gonna ruin your brain.

[nolabear]

518. Yep, even a drive-by and they got it wrong.

[Amaya]

263. it's all theater

nt

[Blacksheep214]

264. Bush = Tora Bora

President Obama = MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!!!

:toast: :grouphug: :fistbump: :patriot:

OOORAH!!

[iandhr]

268. WOOO WOOO WOOO

[ensemble]

272. That prick Blitzer....

was interveiwing a NY fireman, talking about the significance of the killing of OBL, and the fireman said something to the effect that maybe we can start to wind down operations in Afghanistan...
wolfy promptly "lost contact" with the fireman (I could hear both of them just fine) and started talking to another "expert" who would stay on topic.

[cosmicone]

275. Pakistani ISI was clearly hiding him

which is why Obama kept the Pakistanis in the dark until well after completion of the mission.

In another story, a Pakistani army helicopter crashed in Abbotabad about the same time as the OBL operation was going on ...

Interesting news from Pakistan http://www.dawn.com/2011/05/02/army-helicopter-crashes-near-abbottabad.html

[ensemble]

278. if someone...

could explain our relationship with Pakistan in a coherent manner, I would appreciate it.
"Hiding out" in a mansion outside of Islamabad? uh, OK.

[BumRushDaShow]

277. Sigh...

Hopefully the end of terra terra terra....

[rschop]

281. Bin Laden is Dead

This is just fine. But what about the fact that the CIA using FBI HQ agents they had subjugated had deliberatly allowd the attacks on 9/11 to happen in the first place. When are these people going to face justice?

[99th_Monkey]

283. I can only wonder if Obama cleared this ahead of time with the Bush Crime Family. ~nt

[iverglas]

284. I'm finding the mockery in this thread of a religion adhered to by billions

rather distasteful.

Very distasteful, actually.

[totodeinhere]

334. That fact the billions adhere to it doesn't change the fact that Islam is a fairytale

based upon superstitions. In fairness, so is Christianity and other religions.

[iverglas]

347. the fact that all religion is stupid and evil

doesn't make it any less distasteful to mock any particular religion just for the hell of it.

Real live perfectly innocent people adhere to religions for reasons having mainly to do with culture and family. Mocking their religion really just isn't likely either to persuade them of the wrongheadedness of their beliefs or to enhance their regard for people and cultures other than their own.

What it is likely to do is legitimize bigotry and persecution directed at them.



typo fixed

[Ghost Dog]

367. Spot on.

Hear Hear!

[totodeinhere]

444. Mocking stupidity and evil is not distasteful.

Perhaps the innocent people you refer to need a dose of reality about their religious superstitions. The best thing we can do for them is to help liberate them from their religion and I am referring to Christianity as well as Islam.

[iverglas]

456. yeah, you're an altruist

The best thing we can do for them is to help liberate them from their religion and I am referring to Christianity as well as Islam.

Mocking their beliefs and revered personages is such an effective way of doing that, particularly when the mockery has a negative impact on their quality of life, if it doesn't actually exacerbate the harassment, discrimination and violence they are exposed to, as (and as they know full well) it is not infrequently intended to do.

I mean, it's how they get converts, isn't it??

Maybe you should take some lessons from them. Amateur. And that's a polite assessment.

[Turbineguy]

287. Sarah Palin

is no doubt working out how to tell us about her role in making this happen.

[peacetalksforall]

288. It's very weird the way members on DU are cheering tonight when a grand per cent

of members used to write about bin Laden already being dead.

Since I don't believe anything related to the invasion of these countries - I choose to put this announcement on a wait and see.

I'm surprised that this group is not already looking into probabilities. Why couldn't the superior forces of the US cpature him? Was it a boots on the ground battle scene like none that has come before this one?

Why cheer until you hear the story? Some of you might remember your own words when you wrote that he died of his kidney disease in a hide out about five, six years ago?

Whether you want to believe Obama is up to you, but consider whether Obama should believe the DOD and Intelligence or any mercenary group.

My right - I will wait and see.

[vaberella]

290. So many are cheering of a drone bomb that killed OBL.

When there were a lot of complaints about these drones.

[cbdo2007]

293. It wasn't a drone. Get your facts straight. It was ground combat. Source - everyone

[vaberella]

318. Yes, I got it...I was going to say excuse me when I heard it.

No need to snap.

[cbdo2007]

322. I'm sorry for being snippy.

Sorry, there is just a lot of misinformation around right now and I got frustrated. :)

[vaberella]

431. No biggie. I think there wasn't a lot of information before. It was sort of trinkling in.

No worries.

[tavalon]

361. I still believe he died years ago and has been preserved in American's finest freezer

What blows me away, is "why now?" I won't believe this story any more than I did the Jessica Lynch story, the Pat Tillman story, even the Baby Milk and Incubator stories. So far, none of the others have a shred of truth, so I'm feeling all hooey about this one. I'm finding that these administrations have a similar taste for Military Theatre.

[smirkymonkey]

474. +1000

[kath]

508. yup - they feed us so much bullshit that it's hard to believe a single goddam word they say.

[tavalon]

362. I still believe he died years ago and has been preserved in American's finest freezer

What blows me away, is "why now?" I won't believe this story any more than I did the Jessica Lynch story, the Pat Tillman story, even the Baby Milk and Incubator stories. So far, none of the others have a shred of truth, so I'm feeling all hooey about this one. I'm finding that these administrations have a similar taste for Military Theatre.

[LynneSin]

289. Are we sure it's not the #3 guy - it's been a year since we've caught that guy

but I do hope he is dead and rotting in hell.

[GoddessOfGuinness]

292. Who would have thought it could happen with a terrist muslin in office?

:bounce:

[Recursion]

294. Don't send a Yalie to do a Chicago boy's job

is all I have to say...

[Adenoid_Hynkel]

295. and on the anniversary of "Mission Accomplished" day

.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

326. Nice one!

[Pooka Fey]

405. My, what an astonishing coincidence!!!

:sarcasm:

[veganlush]

296. meanwhile, the freepers are whining

about Obama saying "...at my direction..." and the like.

[chriscruzan]

297. Which Frat gets the skull ?

[krkaufman]

302. How long before we start hearing from the 'Deathers' ...

... saying we didn't actually kill bin Laden? Show me his long-form death certificate!!

[Beacool]

304. I have conflicted feelings about Osama's death.

Although I did not lose a loved one, I was there that fateful morning. Not a few blocks away or watching it on TV, but there at Ground Zero, or more precisely in the North Tower. The news of Osama's death brought back memories of that late summer morning. It was such a nice day. It was Tuesday and the farmer's market was in the plaza in front of the South Tower. I was looking forward to buying some fruit and coconut macaroons. Instead, the morning brought the worst terrorist attack in US history.

As much as I breath a sigh of relief knowing that Osama is no longer alive to plot further mayhem, I can't help but to feel sadness. Sadness for all those who I saw jump from the Towers' windows, for those who died on the airplanes and particularly for all those who died in my tiny town of Hoboken, NJ. Hoboken, despite being only a square mile, lost more people than any other city in NJ. More than 50 people died that day, some I knew, most I didn't. The youngest one was only 22, the oldest was in his 40s.

I see the people celebrating in front of the WH and in Times Square, but I can't rejoice with them. I cringe to think what will Al Qaeda do to retaliate. The question is not whether they will avenge Osama's death, but rather where in the world will they attack next and whether they will be stopped in enough time to prevent another 9/11. They are patient, they tried to bring down the WTC in 1993 and finally succeeded in 2001.

So yes, I'm happy that bin Laden is dead, but I fear what will his death bring next.

:-(

[VWolf]

442. I agree, in a sense

More than anything, I think this brings some closure to the event.

I'm glad he's dead, but I'm in no mood for celebrating. It's been a terrible decade of lost lives and lost liberties. Let's hope we can finally "turn the corner".

[Beacool]

446. I too am glad that he is dead, but I cringed watching the crowds

chant USA while waving the American flag because I think that those images will be used to recruit more "martyrs" to their cause.

[krkaufman]

308. Why the f*** does CNN have Frances Townshend on ...?

One of the incompetent/negligent/criminal participants from the Bush Administration. And followup with an interview of Peter King, yet another Republican fool.

[Enthusiast]

378. It's CNN.......nt

[chriscruzan]

312. Fox News

is actually praising president Obama, even referring to him as "President".

[T_i_B]

363. Turned onto Faux news by accident

The anchor sounded distraught! Turned back over to the saner waters of BBC news.

[catzies]

313. IMO they waited until after the Royal Wedding was over to go public with it finally

Somewhere in all the blather in the last hour or so I think I heard it happened a week ago and they've waited for confirmation anyway. Maybe they've known since Thursday and respectfully held back. Or something. I'm not jubilant about it at all. No one will come back from the dead from either side and war spending will be transferred somewhere else to some other bad guy.

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[MilesColtrane]

319. The Chicago Way

http://movieclips.com/6Jb8-the-untouchables-movie-the-chicago-way/

[caseymoz]

320. I'll give Obama credit.

He didn't swear he'd get him, he got him.

Hmm. Birth Certificate and Osama killed in one week. That's called a coup. I sense he could bank on a second term now, with even many Republicans voting for him and Fox News and the Tea Partiers eating crow for the next six years.

[vaberella]

321. Gaddafi's son too. n/t

[obxhead]

329. Yeah,

Might as well say Bush tax cuts bring jobs.

I don't believe a fucking word of it. 7 months it takes them to release this? ok, go fish.

[caseymoz]

460. What do you mean 7 months?

I haven't read anything very closely, yet, but I don't remember 7 months referred to, anywhere. What conspiracy theory are you reading, or are you trying to create one?

I'm not fond of our president either, but everybody in the intelligence community wanted bin Laden dead. They won't go along with faking his death to benefit a guy they're not fond of either.

In 8 years of W's woeful, mendacious term, even the Bush administration wouldn't even fake bin Laden's death. That to me is the canary in the coal mine. No way Obama would.

[krkaufman]

324. Sounds like Wingers will hang their hats on ...

... trying to say the nuggets of intelligence that *eventually* led to this action were first rooted out during Bush's term.

[DailyGrind]

429. Of course they will, and they'll be partially right.

The line of people queing up to take credit for this will be long and wide. This wasn't Bush or Obama's kill, it was the CIA & military's, the President just gives the go-ahead.

Everyone who had a hand in this deserves their share of credit, and I applaud them all.

You know Bush wishes he could have cashed this in, not to be. Obama's loving this.

[Denver Progressive]

328. 3 words...

YES WE DID!!!:toast:

[Jack Rabbit]

330. And so, eight years to the day after Bush the Frat Boy declared Mission Accomplished . . .

President Obama finally accomplished the mission.

Take that, teabaggers.

[Lasher]

331. A great victory.

If this was not the objective, it is what the objective should have been. Here's to our triumphant soldiers and their Commander in Chief!

[Turborama]

351. Nice GIF, mind if I borrow it sometimes? n/t

[Lasher]

352. I got it in the lounge from Paradoxical

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=105x9679220

[Crunchy Frog]

332. I won't believe it till I see the original long form death certificate

along with absolute proof that it wasn't forged.

[ErikJ]

333. And Checkmate- good game Barrack.

[Bladian]

335. Can you imagine

what it must feel like to be one of the men (or women) involved in the assault? That's got to be a permanent high right there.

[earcandle]

336. Well.. I am glad they are finally admitting it. He has been dead for years according to Benazir

Bhutto in a David Frost interview.  Google it.  

But I am glad they have admitted it so we can move on.

[Go2Peace]

358. Reporting now, he was buried at sea??????

Why in the world would they do that? No genetic proof?

[ronnie624]

340. Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., Obama's opponent in the 2008 election,

said he was "overjoyed that we finally got the world's top terrorist."

I wonder how it is decided who is the "top" terrorist. Surely the only logical criterion is the number of victims. If so, bin Laden couldn't possibly be at the "top". George W. Bush, for instance, is directly responsible for the deaths of a far greater number of people.

[4lbs]

368. The criteria for "Top Terrorist" was being #1 on the FBI list.

[ronnie624]

443. Yep, but bin Laden was a pipsqueak compared to other terrorists.

I am ever compelled to point out the hypocrisy of the prevailing narrative. I can't help myself.

[democrat0986]

341. kicked and rec'd

Give the president his due. The republicans won't Good job to the men and women in uniform and to President Obama.

[Corey_Baker08]

343. Killed On the 8th Anniversary of Mission Accomplished Declaration

....now its Mission Accomplished get our troops home!!!

[jzodda]

346. Obama Just won re-election

Its now an order of magnitude more difficult for whoever winds up against him in 2012. Huge day for him, and huge day for us here in New York City! Finally that bastard gets it...I have been dreaming of this day since he tried to blow up my city.

[WillParkinson]

348. He's dead again?

He's got more lives than Dracula.

[Raster]

349. This time they took him out of the freezer.

The powers that be: the MIC, Lords of Money and Petroleum Mafia must be happy with Prez. Obama, enough to let him thaw out Osama and parade the corpse through the streets.

[Pooka Fey]

406. That was my 1st question, too.

[chillspike]

350. Can anybody care where Obama was born now?

I don't think so.

[irislake]

353. HURRAH! You have won.

Now you can bring home the troops and cancel The Patriot act. USA USA USA!

[krkaufman]

354. LA Times on bin Laden's history

... with some data points buried on page 6 excerpted:

LA Times: Osama bin Laden, born to privilege, dies a pariah

Bin Laden might never have found refuge in Pakistan's tribal areas if it weren't for the U.S. military's ill-fated decision not to send U.S. Special Forces into Tora Bora, the labyrinthine network of caves in eastern Afghanistan where Bin Laden and Al Qaeda hid after the U.S.-led invasion in October 2001.

U.S. Gen. Tommy Franks, head of the operation in Afghanistan, gave the job of flushing out Bin Laden to a ragtag band of Afghan fighters, a move that most analysts say gave Bin Laden and his aides the opportunity to flee to Pakistan.

...

Like President Bush, Bin Laden proclaimed that whoever was not with him was his enemy. "These events have divided the world into two camps, the camp of the faithful and the camp of the infidel," he said. "Every Muslim must rise to defend his religion."

Though, Tommy Franks seems to be getting credit for what I thought to be Rumsfeld's decision-making (interference).

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[zennie62]

356. Remember, in 2007, GOP Laughed At Obama For Mentioning Pakistan

Hey. Remember that in 2007, Barack said that he wanted to focus on Pakistan and get Bin Laden there, and Mitt Romney, John McCain, and even Clinton called him a bunch of names...

http://zennie2005.blogspot.com/2011/05/osama-bin-laden-is-dead-credit.html

[classysassy]

357. Will the blood letting increase or decrease?

When will world leaders sit down and reason together?,these wars show the savage side of humans.(greed).

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[votesparks]

372. Alex Jones

will be covering every possibly conspiratorial angle of this story today, so for those of you wondering where the crazies will be taking this story, just stay tuned.

[northofdenali]

373. So, where's the party?

Sorry for my cynical outlook, but one person does NOT a revolution/rebellion make. Unless he has money supplied by the "greatest nation on earth". (look it up, we gave Afghanistan HUGE money when it was a wholly-owned subsidiary of the Bihn Laden family.)

He don't count, and hasn't since 9/11/01.

I do love that Mubarak has gotten (finally) his comeuppance, even though through the CIA we funded his regime for many, many layers.

I don't like liars, in my own government or others.

DO NOT fucking lie to me.

RE: your post? K&R from a born and bred Irish rebel.

[Enthusiast]

374. My local NBC interviewed the

Heritage Foundation.

[Volaris]

380. The President just got himself re-elected.

The GOP can attempt to spin this all they want, the Independent voter block may be at times easily led, but even they know a winner from a loser. Happy Monday to all here=)

[Nostalgic]

381. Dear Osama,

I WIN!

Love,
Waldo

[jpak]

382. Mission Accomplished - now bring the troops home

and fuck you GOP

Barack Hussein Obama succeeded where Bush failed

yup



yup

[Volaris]

388. doesn't that feel good to say??? (All of it?)

[forty6]

402. I love how your post really says it all !!!!

Say it 1000 times today!

[BenzoDia]

387. Obama said we'd get him, and we got him. True to his word.

[Lars77]

389. Was it worth it?

Tens of thousands of American and allied lives lost, potentially more than one million civillians dead, enormous expenditures that has tanked almost the entire world economy (unless you're a defence contractor or hedge fund), the erosion of civil rights and the shift from global sympathy to hatred against the U.S. in large parts of the world.

And for what? To kill one bearded guy who's haunted the U.S. like a ghost, because you have let yourself be haunted.


I'm sure it's a great occation for flagwaving, but this hasn't been about Bin Laden for years now.


Who seriously believes the Afghan and Iraqi war is over, that Gitmo will be closed and the Patriot Act repealed?


I feel just as sad about the state of the world as yesterday.

[ronnie624]

437. *

:thumbsup:

[Titonwan]

392. It's singalong time agin! (to the tune of Armored HotDogs)

♩Usama,
♩Usama bin Laden♪
What kind of CIA♩ fakes look ♩like bin Laden?
♪Fat Usama’s, Skinny Usama’s, Usama’s that climb on rocks!
♪Tough Usama’s, ♩Sissy Usama’s, even ♩Usama’s with♪ Chicken Pox!♪
Love Usama,
Usama bin Laden♩
The ♪Lie kids♪ love to eat!♩
(I hope you guys aren't going to swallow this whole hog like 'yellow cake, wmd's, anthrax attacks, spreadin' democracy®' and the other tripe we've been told for the last upteenth years- it's hogwash, people)

[leveymg]

393. I wonder, what if anything, this will change. Hopefully, this gives some closure,

and marks a transition away from the reign of terrible error and destruction of our freedoms in the name of the GWOT under Bush-Cheney.

[sofa king]

396. The GOP has just lost their greatest asset.

No more election-eve campaigning for them.

I would have much preferred that he be taken alive and nobody told about it for awhile, in order to roll up the rest of the organization, but dead is probably okay, too.

[Le Taz Hot]

397. This is the only person in the world

on whom I would ever wish death. I say GOOD that he's dead!!!! 3,000 innocent lives, for what??? And hiding in a city in Pakistan under the nose of the Pakistani "military" and they didn't know he was there? How many billions have we given Pakistan now?

[Thinking Chimp]

401. Points that need to be addressed:

1 - the U.S. says they did not tell the Pakistan government until after the assault. Pakistan says they helped plan it.
2 - the U.S. says they have done DNA tests to confirm the death as well as facial recognition (he was shot in the head)
3 - was there any outside verifiers to confirm the DNA or facial confirmation prior to getting rid of the body? (or just take our word for it)
4 - to be technical, the U.S. dropped military personal into the city of a sovereign country and assassinated people without the "approval" from said government. (against international law)

I'm just saying...

[Myrina]

404. Did we take the batteries out of his dialysis machine?

:shrug:

[Dj13Francis]

409. Bullshit!

This is absolute total and complete bullshit.

He has been dead since 2003.

And we're to believe that they killed him and then immediately took his body and buried it at sea?

Bullshit.

At least the OBL charade, the fictional boogeyman justification for continued war in Afghanistan is now over.

www.davidjamesfrancis.com

[Amaya]

415. exactly

nt

[Soylent Brice]

411. K&R

[bdamomma]

412. sorry to be so cynical but they killed him

how many more will take his place?

[nradisic]

413. Good job

Kudos goes to President Obama, our military and intelligence communities and especially our Special Forces. You made us proud.

[Roland99]

418. *yawn*...at this point, who really cares? Won't change a damn thing.

[Javaman]

419. Burial at sea. how does that taste in your mouth?

No body, no crime.

He's been dead for years. (If he even existed in the first place).

but now, someone in the white house did a cost/benefit analysis and found that it's a good time, economically speaking to claim OBL is dead.

On the report of his "death" MSNBC annouced that the market was to have big gains.

They also reported that the price of a barrel of oil went down.

They also reported "spontanious" turn outs in "celebration" in DC.

Who the fuck are they kidding? Could this be anymore staged? this is right up there with the "supporters" that were trucked in when the networks televised the pulling down of that statue in Baghdad.

Fuck it. Everything is a false flag, everything is a black swan, everything is a stalking horse.

Don't believe anything they tell you.

[Imagevision]

426. They also reported that the price of a barrel of oil went down.

[Hell Hath No Fury]

454. When I woke to "burial at sea" -

...my eyebrows shot up.

When the news first hit last night, I told my roommate, "I will wait to get more of this story before forming an opinion." Burial at sea -- wow, does that just conjure up all sorts of interesting thoughts for me.

I still don't know what to think at thins point.

But, one thing is for certain -- this does not mean we are heading home from Afghanistan/Iraq anytime soon. :(

[smirkymonkey]

478. And now we'll have a retaliatory terrorist attack on U.S. Soil which

will of course be blamed on Obama and the GOP will find all sorts of ways to milk that one.

[KansDem]

483. Nah, I don't think so...

I don't believe Obama will "get the intelligence wrong" like GW "claimed" to had done.

The only "intelligence problem" GW had was between his ears.

I think Obama is using intel much more effectively and much more wisely...

[MasonJar]

420. Good!!!!

[slackmaster]

421. FUCK YEAH!

Death to all murderers, assassins, tyrants, and despots.

[Imagevision]

422. After Pat Tillman I don't believe sh*t this government reports...

[Faygo Kid]

428. You and the FReepers.

They are deeply disappointed over there. You're with them, apparently.

[bread_and_roses]

423. Exactly. And if reports that the mission was to kill, not capture

are true, how does that make us different from any other thug regime around the world?

[mountainlion55]

424. We will only leave

when we have gotten all the 1-trillion plus dollars worth of lithium out of Afghanistan. We will only leave Libya when we have all their light sweet crude! We will never leave Iraq because of our need for oil! So hey lets dance in the streets like a bunch of bloodthirsty idiots!

[mrfocus]

427. Trump got trumped

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[kestrel91316]

463. Obama IS the CIC who ordered that Bin Ladin be taken.

Bush didn't give a damn once he had milked that cash cow for all it was worth and moved on to better things.

[texastoast]

519. And if Bush had kept his eye on the enemy, this would have been done by a Navy Seal

long ago.

Instead, we had to have a Dem ONCE AGAIN clean up a Republican mess. It was all about the feud between George the Elder and Saddam for the shrub.

[DailyGrind]

432. I wonder if they've got GWB's Mission Accomplished banner in mothballs

Might want to go ahead and unfurl it today, how sweet would that be.

[JJW]

434. Great DNA testing labs!

They must have great DNA testing labs in Pakistan or Afghanistan to be able to verify they got Osama bin Laden and also disposed of his body so efficiently.

[totodeinhere]

447. I had to edit my previous post.

The AP is indeed reporting that they have the DNA tests back.

[kestrel91316]

464. The presumption is that the DNA testing was done by US military facilities.

They already have extensive DNA testing capabilities in place for ID of military personnel remains.

I seriously think you'd be happier playing over at FR or Prison Planet.

[Pooka Fey]

435. Bin Laden dead, AGAIN, and his body tossed in the sea???!!! My ass.

[totodeinhere]

445. As you know, Islamic tradition mandates a quick burial. There is no conspiracy here.

There were legitimate reasons for not buying him on land and allowing his burial site to become a shrine to a martyr.

And as far as if it was really him goes, before they buried him they collected DNA samples. We should know the results of the DNA testing soon enough.

On edit - The AP is reporting that they have the DNA test results back.

[peace13]

439. Now I know why they held up the shuttle lauch...

Osama careening through space to his final resting place! In all seriousness, I thought the guy was dead years ago. I'm with Donald...where's the death certificate. Let's see a current picture of *. If I see tear tracks ....well even if I see that I still won't believe it. Funny in 2007 Benazir Bhutto told Mr. Frost that Osama was dead just shortly before she was assassinated. Who am I supposed to believe here?

[LatteLibertine]

440. 9/11 happened on Dubyah's watch

the death of OBL on President Obama's.

As I understand it, President Obama quietly ordered the death of OBL be made a "priority" when he entered office. The CIA gathered the intelligence and the U.S. Navy SEALs performed the strike.

Some are speculating OBL had been living in that large fortified compound since some time after 2005. Dubyah could have issued the same order President Obama did and I think he believed OBL was a useful boogeyman to have out there.

President Obama quietly told them, "This is a top priority. Get it done." Well you see what happens when our military and intelligence are truly let go to do a job.

OBL wasn't hiding in a cave. He was living in a large fortified compound 60miles from the capital of Pakistan in a wealthy suburb. We could have "found" him earlier.

Dubyah does not deserve credit. The info gathered by the CIA for this strike was accomplished in a few months.

Anywho, the time is right for "Obama got Osama" bumper stickers :P

[bdamomma]

441. well Bin Laden was in no cave

this explains the raid on his secured compound.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42853221/ns/world_news-south_and_central_asia/?gt1=43001

[ThatsMyBarack]

448. ThatsMyBarack!

I KNEW I had that as my DU handle for a reason! :patriot::woohoo:

[JonLP24]

450. ABC news

said the US got a tip from a detainee in Guantanamo.

No link-watching TV

[Beacool]

451. Since this was posted twice, I'm posting my response twice too.

I have conflicted feelings about Osama's death.

Although I did not lose a loved one, I was there that fateful morning. Not a few blocks away or watching it on TV, but there at Ground Zero, or more precisely in the North Tower. The news of Osama's death brought back memories of that late summer morning. It was such a nice day. It was Tuesday and the farmer's market was in the plaza in front of the South Tower. I was looking forward to buying some fruit and coconut macaroons. Instead, the morning brought the worst terrorist attack in US history.

As much as I breath a sigh of relief knowing that Osama is no longer alive to plot further mayhem, I can't help but to feel sadness. Sadness for all those who I saw jump from the Towers' windows, for those who died on the airplanes and particularly for all those who died in my tiny town of Hoboken, NJ. Hoboken, despite being only a square mile, lost more people than any other city in NJ. More than 50 people died that day, some I knew, most I didn't. The youngest one was only 22, the oldest was in his 40s.

I see the people celebrating in front of the WH and in Times Square, but I can't rejoice with them. I cringe to think what will Al Qaeda do to retaliate. The question is not whether they will avenge Osama's death, but rather where in the world will they attack next and whether they will be stopped in enough time to prevent another 9/11. They are patient, they tried to bring down the WTC in 1993 and finally succeeded in 2001.

So yes, I'm happy that bin Laden is dead, but I fear what will his death bring next. There are already cries of outrage and calls for revenge from jihadists.

:(

[Doctor_J]

452. OK, that's done. Time to stop the War On The Budget, and declare victory

congrats, I guess

[Balderdash]

453. Yes!!! :-D

[obietiger]

455. President's speech

was very thoughtful and well said!

[freedomnorth]

458. 10 years

2 wars, 919,967 deaths & $1,188,263,000,000 later, we managed to kill one person. I hope it was worth it.

[CJvR]

466. ISI on site!

"However, a senior Pakistani intelligence official said members of Pakistan's intelligence service, the ISI, were on site in Abbottabad during the operation. There was no way to immediately resolve the apparent discrepancy"

I can't help thinking the ISI on site was the three man security team assigned to Osama Bin Laden.

[MrScorpio]

480. Always, it takes a Democrat to clean up after the republicans.

Always.

[DefCom69]

487. No way we can leave now.

It's funny how everyone thinks we can just pull out now. We just created a martyr, every muslim in the world just swore to muhommod or allah or who the heck ever to increase there killing of Christians and Americans by 200%.

[MrScorpio]

498. We're going to pull out eventually

That war won't last forever

[DefCom69]

501. No, it won't.

No, but I have a feeling it won't end any time soon.

[MrScorpio]

504. So, you want to stay there forever?

Why don't you suit up and go there yourself, since you love this war so much?

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[MrScorpio]

509. Hi, sam. How are ya doing?

Just because you're adding with your own bullshit, doesn't make his bullshit any less bullshittier.

Especially, that part about the fact that you're both arguing to stay in Afghanistan with a caveat that terrorism is a worldwide phenomena.

I'm really interested why you're not concerned about the Muslim victims of Al Qaeda, since more of them have died from terrorist attacks than all the Christians and Americans put together. (I do suspect that you really don't care about them though)

I guess that you can peddle this kind of crap when you're jacking off to pictures of Rush Limbaugh with your friends, but if you really want to make a cogent argument, you need something better than your obvious bullshit.

[Blasphemer]

486. So, Bushco couldn't do this in 7+ years and Obama and his military leaders and personnel

Did so in about 2? How interesting. Perhaps if Bush had focused on Bin Laden instead of wasting time with Sadaam this mass murderer would have been caught already.

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[JackDragna]

502. Oh boy. We finally got Emmanuel Goldstein.

eom

[ooglymoogly]

523. Yes this is a milestone....Of what remains to be seen.

bragging rights maybe. Collateral for a presidency maybe. One thing is now for sure, we will never know the real truth of what went down from the chosen most important player, in this most fantastic debacle in the entire history of civilization. Unless Bin Laden left behind a convenient, diary to be dug up when needed to bolster some even more cockamamie concoction to bolster the advent of an ever more cruel fascism.

But by all means dance round the maypole, pop the corks, because a milestone has been acknowledged on our gleeful backward trek into the dark and dense jungles of the black, the trash bin of history.

It is after all Mayday....and not April fools.

[Leopolds Ghost]

525. Checking in--I was initially very disturbed that they disposed of the body so fast

Because it and the combination of taking him down in a quick firefight when we could have captured him and put him to real justice, seemed to prevent closure for those of us who wanted to see Osama in US custody. Then again, killing him in a firefight almost seems more deferentual to Osama's preferred fate than capturing him a la KSM.

Before this thread gets too long:

I had the chance to go down to the White House last night, but the Metro closed early. Unfortunately from what I saw the crowd became dominated by frat boys for a little bit, a few of them waving Bush Cheney signs. Then, depressingly, they roped off the crowd and defused the celebration. Perhaps its for the best -- the celebrations that broke out seemed a little drunken and unseemly for something I thought would be a happy, but somber moment. Violent shouting of "USA, USA" begins to take the tenor of a mob after a while. I blame it on being mostly a young crowd that weren't old enough to really know anything about 9-11 other than Bin Laden being a cartoon supervillain they grew up with, like the Joker. Older crowds seemed to take the news with a lot more mature attitude, although on one hand I don't believe in celebrating death, I do believe in celebrating the end of an era for the man who took credit for the attacks on the US.

I was initially very upset when I heard they disposed of the body so fast. That is not the way to defuse speculations that Bin Laden was "dead all along" (a quite reasonable interpretation at the time, given officials' seeming public disinterest, see below) or some of the wilder hypotheses that have circulated over the years.

HOWEVER, I was very much heartened by the words of Obama's HS secretary at today's press conf. That every option was considered and planned for, and that, should Bin Laden resist, the burial at sea was part of a considered method to prove "habeas corpus" (Bin Laden's corpus) without appearing to deface the body (as Wolf Blitzer mentioned was done to the Mahdi, the 19th century version of Bin Laden) or do something that is otherwise beneath Americans, at least those of us who are religious, and thereby create the appearance that we were not fully justified in offing him in a firefight, regardless of whether he is just a figurehead or actively involved.

I still don't believe that feigning disinterest in finding Bin Laden over the past ten years was anything other than another misguided Bush strategy and I don't think it helped find him. It only continued and helped promote the idea that we're in a different world shaped by his terrorism, which is exactly the sort of thing we should not give Islamists the pleasure of changing America's ways -- in this case, to promote a media attitude of casually deceiving the public in hopes of deceiving AQ in the process (when the media knew the truth that Bin Laden was out there and that finding him was still a priority). If anything, claiming that they were desperate to find him and weren't having much luck, and needed support by Pakistani tipsters, would have seemed a better tactic.

Perhaps it was all part of the state-to-state deception of Pakistan that the "conspiracy nuts" said was necessary because Pakistan was in fact funding and assisting Bin Laden in his terror efforts through the ISI. If so, then feigning disinterest in Bin Laden was probably necessary due to the level of second-guessing needed to outmaneuver a rival secret service.

The location of the Bin Laden compound definitely makes it clear that someone, not anyone in the US hopefully, but certainly our "allies" in ISI, knew about Bin Laden's plans before and after and "let it happen" on the grounds, perhaps, that a terror attack on American soil would result in more funding for US allies in the Middle East. Comments by Wolf Blitzer, Bob Baer and others seem to bear this out that there is no way someone in ISI did not know about this.

Now bracing for the inevitable response video from GOP leaders (on now) and Obama's death tape (supposedly set to come out.)

[Leopolds Ghost]

535. Your thoughts?

Perhaps I should post this in a separate thread since this thread seems out of commission. Also, where's all the DUers? I'd think news like this on the front page would yield a thousand replies or more...

[Boudica the Lyoness]

530. This means no more TSA freedom frisks..

right?

[1620rock]

533. Obama's death tape ?...I hope you ment Osama's death tape.

[Boudica the Lyoness]

539. For a moment I thought you were talking to me..

I'm celebrating the end of the TSA freedom frisks. lol

[Blacksheep214]

536. They cleansed the body before burial at sea

Think Mussolini. I wonder if our boys hosed him before pitching him out of a chopper at 5000 ft.

I just have no respect for this dead SOB. That's yhe way it is.

[ProudDad]

540. Triumphalist bullshit!

Contemplate this a while instead of crowing about state sanctioned murders...

"And empire finally, as Thucydides understood, is a disease. As Thucydides wrote, the tyranny that the Athenian empire imposed on others it finally imposed on itself. The disease of empire, according to Thucydides, would finally kill Athenian democracy. And the disease of empire, the disease of nationalism … these of course are mirrored in the anarchic violence of these groups, but one that locks us in a kind of frightening death spiral. So while I certainly fear al-Qaida, I know it’s intentions. I know how it works. I spent months of my life reconstructing every step Mohamed Atta took. While I don’t in any way minimize their danger, I despair. I despair that we as a country, as Nietzsche understood, have become a monster that we are attempting to fight."

http://www.truth-out.org/chris-hedges-speaks-osama-bin-laden%E2%80%99s-death/1304343151

Sorry to be a buzz kill but gloating about State Murder is bullshit...

Someone you like may be next...

[Yurovsky]

543. +1,000,000....

The whole "USA, USA..." crap makes me want to puke. We violated a sovereign nation and MURDERED 5 people without due process. I guess if you're a tool of the far right it's way cool.... If you believe in human rights and the rule of law, not so much.

For those on here WHooping it up, all i can say is "Enjoy your celebration with the puppet masters of the military-industrial complex..."

[DeadEyeDyck]

541. What's with the Geronimo thing?

I was watching the footage when all the top officals are watching the assualt on the OBL compound and I hear the narrator say, "and the team then identified Osama Bin Laden, code named Geronimo..."

Was that really necessary? Geronimo was a great Native American leader of the Apache tribe and is revered by millions of native Americans and others. Wouldn't it have been more appropriate to have code named him "Hitler" or "Attilla" or "Gumby"?

How would the public feel if it was "Osama Bin Laden, code named Lincoln?" or "Osama Bin Laden, code named Mother Teresa?"

Maybe I am being over sensitive but for me this really put a cloud over a near perfect operation. I can't help asking, how do these people view Native American heroes?

[ProudDad]

542. Ah, Yes, there's a perfectly good English word for what's going on in this thread...

I think I've got it...

Ah, Ghoulish...

[The abyss]

545. The idea that so many actually appear to believe this fairy story is astounding.

[smiley]

544. the boogeyman is dead

nuff said.... now back to Ghadafi... our long lost enemy.

[happyslug]

546. A big fear came into my head, did ben Laden WANTED TO BE KILLED?

It is spring in Afghanistan, winter is over, the winter wheat crop was planted last year and will be ready for harvest come June. Thus the farmers and other people in Rural Afghanistan have the most "Free Time" to begin operations. The Taliban has said they will launch an offensive, could bin Laden had seen himself as a martyr, that could be used as battle cry i.e. Remember the Alamo, Remember the Maine etc?

Bin Laden had become increasingly unimportant since 9/11, 9/11 lead to his strategic objective, to get US Troops into the Middle East AND thus to show the Moslem World that America wanted to rule the World, including the Moslem world. Bin Laden achieved that plan as to Afghanistan, and to a more limited extent in Pakistan (Iraq was a Bush II add on, a huge plus for bid Laden, but not in bin Laden's plans, which was concentrated on Afghanistan and Pakistan).

Thus, did ben Laden want to be killed? In many ways this is the perfect time of the year to be a Martyr, spring is the season in Afghanistan and Pakistan and thus general start of operations in both countries (In Winter, the people in the Mountains of Pakistan and Afghanistan hole up till spring).

Just a comment on WHY we received this information so we could kill bin Laden. Remember bin Laden did NOT want to rule the World, or enrich his family by taking over the oil fields, he was a true fanatic, willing to die for what he believed in which was to drive out US influence in the Middle East. Right now, both Afghanistan and Pakistan are tender boxes ready to blow up in the face of the US, bin Laden's death maybe all that is needed to get the Radicals in both Countries to come out in force and attack US positions in both Countries. It may be all that is needed to see both countries fall to the Radicals followers of bin Laden (and in the alternative, bring out those same radicals to be killed).

This was and is a gamble, a gamble that may pay off for the US (If the radicals come out and killed off by the US) or bin Laden (if the Radicals are able to take over Pakistan and/or Afghanistan).

[Jmaxfie1]

549. See you in hell (Bin Laden)....looking down from heaven of course ;) n/t

[Leopolds Ghost]

551. I'm kind of shocked this thread got "so few" responses for a front-page thread.

I guess all the discussion is on other threads.

[Renew Deal]

552. DU was moving very fast on Sunday night

It was one of those nights where the difference between the top of the first page and the bottom was like 10 minutes

[sarcasmo]

553. kick.