Venezuela Official Condemns Celebrations

[Freddie Stubbs]

Source: The Wall Street Journal

CARACAS–Venezuelan Vice President Elias Jaua Monday condemned the celebrations that were seen the previous night after U.S. President Barack Obama announced the killing of Osama bin Laden.

Speaking during a television appearance, Mr. Jaua criticized the U.S. for using, what he called, assassination as an official strategy, saying “it is surprising how the crime and killing has become normal and was celebrated.”

President Hugo Chavez, Washington’s loudest critic in the region, has been highly vocal in his disapproval of the recent U.S. and North Atlantic Treaty Organization airstrikes on his ally Libya.

During a speech Sunday, Mr. Chavez again said that western governments were trying to target Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi after NATO airstrikes that reportedly killed a son and three grandchildren of the leader.

Read more: http://blogs.wsj.com/dispatch/2011/05/02/venezuela-official-condemns-celebrations/

[Abq_Sarah]

1. With all due respect, Mr. Jaua...

Piss off.

[Common Sense Party]

2. FU, Hugo.

[fujiyama]

3. Hey Hugo

Fuck Off! And clean up the fucking murder rate in your own country you authoritarian thug.

[Bacchus39]

4. F.U. dude, Venezuela wasn't targeted on 9/11 pendejo!! n/t

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[dipsydoodle]

6. Maybe he recalls

that Chile was so 9/11/73. That exercise led to the deaths of considerably more than the latter day event.

[Bacchus39]

7. I seriously fucking doubt it dude!!! its really none of his concern how Americans respond n/t

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[dipsydoodle]

10. Other than as source of amusment.

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[Bacchus39]

11. I know I am pleased, not everybody is obviously n/t

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[dipsydoodle]

9. .

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[SoCalNative]

5. Chavez & his minions better stfu

or they'll be next on the hit list

[bitchkitty]

35. What a dumbass remark. n/t

[RedCloud]

8. 2 puntos aquí

Venezuela es un país católico. Ellos no pueden celebrar la muerte.

Otra cosa. Venezuela está en OPEP y por lo tanto ha de haber alianzas con los tipos de petroleo.

Bin Laden + Bush = Arbusto Petroleum Company.

[EFerrari]

12. And so, I think that this is a somber day

Jeremy Scahill: And so, I think that this is a somber day where we should be remembering all of the victims, the 3,000 people that died in the United States and then the hundreds of thousands that died afterwards as a result of a U.S. response to this that should have been a law enforcement response and instead was to declare war on the world.

http://www.democracynow.org/2011/5/2/jeremy_scahill_on_killing_of_bin

[Bacchus39]

14. too bad, it actually made a Monday joyous n/t

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[Mz Pip]

15. I'm not sure how this

"law enforcement response" was supposed to go down. Doesn't sound like taking him alive was much of an option anyway. Seems pretty naive in light of what bin Laden has been about. I doubt a guy who hides out in a heavily armed compound and plots death and destruction has any intention of being brought to trial.

[Bacchus39]

16. yeah, like what were they supposed to do since Pakistan wasn't cooperating?

I agree that was a naive statement.

[Mz Pip]

17. The comments seem to

smack of Monday morning quarterbacking. Shoulda done this, shoulda done that, like Scahill was privy to some info that those involved did not have.

Some people are never satisfied. :shrug:

[LiberalAndProud]

18. Either you misunderstood, or I did.

I took the "law enforcement response" to mean that we should not have gone to war in either Afghanistan or Iraq, but should have engaged in law enforcement measures to bring the perpetrators to justice.

[Mz Pip]

19. I agree about the wars

but I really can't fathom what a "law enforcement response" would look like when you are dealing with someone who isn't interested in cooperating with such an action. Osama never left the compound; he wasn't about to let himself be arrested and brought to "justice."

[LiberalAndProud]

20. Scahill wasn't speaking about the special ops to get OBL.

Let’s remember here, hundreds of thousands of people have died. Iraq was invaded, a country that had nothing to do with al-Qaeda, nothing to do with Osama bin Laden. The United States created an al-Qaeda presence in Iraq by invading it, made Iran a far more influential force in Iraq than it ever would have been. We have given a grand motivation to people around the world that want to do harm to Americans in our killing of civilians, our waging of war against countries that have no connection to al-Qaeda, and by staying in these countries long after the mission was accomplished. Al-Qaeda was destroyed in Afghanistan, forced on the run. The Taliban have no chance of retaking power in Afghanistan. And so, I think that this is a somber day where we should be remembering all of the victims, the 3,000 people that died in the United States and then the hundreds of thousands that died afterwards as a result of a U.S. response to this that should have been a law enforcement response and instead was to declare war on the world.

He was criticizing the wrong decisions taken years ago. I think you probably agree with him.

[COLGATE4]

26. A distinction without a difference. Presumably a Vice President

speaks on behalf on the Administration.

[EFerrari]

31. Um, Scahill wasn't even talking about Venezuela. n/t

[EFerrari]

23. Well, Mz Pip, criminals are rarely enthusiastic about cooperating

with their own capture. And of course Scahill was talking about the persuit of Bin Laden as a law enforcement issue rather than the approach BushCo took which was to declare war on a tactic.

[Mz Pip]

27. Okay, I

understand that now. Been a bit slow today (migraine medicine will do that to me). I do agree that, while we needed to do something after 9/11 we did over react with 2 full scale wars.

I think we could have done what we did yesterday with having done the wars. It really wouldn't have been much different than having a SWAT team go in to apprehend a wanted criminal in a domestic situation - or like we did with the pirates. We didn't start a war over the pirates.

[EFerrari]

28. Hope you're feeling better.

Migraines are no fun.

[christx30]

22. Maybe this guy

would have liked to be one of the people to show up at the compound with an arrest warrant/subpoena/summons. Who are his next of kin?

[EFerrari]

24. He was talking about pursuing terrorists as we always have

as criminals, instead of pretending we are at war with a noun so BushCo could claim war powers.

Is that clearer?

[christx30]

29. So how do you

propose going after a nebulous group of people that have access to heavy weapons and have absolutely no problem with killing scores of people?

[EFerrari]

30. Well, haven't the two wars we're in proved

it doesn't work to go after them with an army?

[Bacchus39]

37. special forces kill squads seemed to work, is that law enforcement?? n/t

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[Rage for Order]

13. Awww, poor Hugo...someone else is getting attention

Can't have that. What a freaking whiner

:rofl:

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[bvar22]

25. Wish I could rec your post.

Well Said.

[Judi Lynn]

32. Had to do a double take to check if I misunderstood the O.P. The comments were from Elias Jaua

concerning Osama bin Laden.

It's startling to see knee-jerk reactions from people shrieking "fuck you" to Hugo Chavez when he's not the subject of the article.

No wonder there are so many misinformed people leaping into message boards to fire on progressives. They clearly don't take the time to research, as they obviously can't even read what's put in front of them in the articles to which they insist upon responding.

It IS sad.

[rabs]

33. Noticed that too

but was not surprised because after all it is the usual, anti-Chavez baiting so common in WSJ articles about Venezuela and Chavez.

It took only two paragraphs to morph from Jaua talking about OBL to jump to linking Chavez to Gadaffi in Libya.

Truly bad journalism.

[EFerrari]

34. Pseudo logic.

Blue fin tuna?! Fuck Chavez, he's next.

lol

[Demeter]

36. As do the American Patriots ( of original meaning) among us

This isn't part of our history--but now, assassination is part of our heritage...