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Newsjock
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Fri May-06-11 07:17 PM Original message |
Feds: All kids, legal or not, entitled to K-12 ed |
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HockeyMom
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Fri May-06-11 07:21 PM Response to Original message |
1. Yes, yes, yes |
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RKP5637
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Fri May-06-11 07:22 PM Response to Original message |
2. Recommend!!! n/t |
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cstanleytech
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Fri May-06-11 07:31 PM Response to Original message |
3. Want to bet that this is challenged though using something along |
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psychopomp
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Fri May-06-11 07:31 PM Response to Original message |
4. I like kids, but this doesn't make sense |
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jberryhill
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Fri May-06-11 07:42 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. Children only get to be educated once |
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woo me with science
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Sat May-07-11 06:54 PM Response to Reply #6 |
38. "Children only get to be educated once." |
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No Elephants
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Mon May-09-11 04:21 AM Response to Reply #6 |
93. +1 Brilliant post. Besides, they are here. We educate them for the same reasons we educate anyone. |
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DRoseDARs
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Fri May-06-11 07:43 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. Yeah, its a little confusing and is bound to cause all kinds of court headaches, but at least from |
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Fri May-06-11 07:47 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. Well said. Even my little old daddy used to ask, "Why would uneducated |
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freshwest
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Fri May-06-11 08:00 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. A good man. Many of his generation suffered enough to never want to see others do without. |
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The Blue Flower
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Sat May-07-11 10:42 AM Response to Reply #7 |
23. Beyond moral and ethical |
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No Elephants
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Mon May-09-11 04:43 AM Response to Reply #23 |
96. Bingo. Weaken us in every way, including financially. |
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MH1
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Fri May-06-11 08:48 PM Response to Reply #4 |
14. a child is a child, not an 'illegal immigrant' |
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YvonneCa
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Sat May-07-11 07:13 PM Response to Reply #14 |
45. I like that... |
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Gormy Cuss
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Fri May-06-11 11:09 PM Response to Reply #4 |
18. How can they not? |
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CreekDog
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Sat May-07-11 11:16 AM Response to Reply #4 |
24. how can they be entitled to food, water, breathing? |
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psychopomp
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Sat May-07-11 06:39 PM Response to Reply #24 |
33. I'm an expat |
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Sat May-07-11 07:51 PM Response to Reply #33 |
49. Yeah, because we can't possibly afford to let them stay...instead, let's |
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psychopomp
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Sat May-07-11 08:45 PM Response to Reply #49 |
55. You seem to want to personalize the issue |
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ret5hd
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Mon May-09-11 10:04 AM Response to Reply #55 |
118. Explain to me the legal process for a poor Mexican. |
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CreekDog
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Sat May-07-11 07:58 PM Response to Reply #33 |
51. how much will it cost to deport 12 million people? |
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No Elephants
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Mon May-09-11 04:47 AM Response to Reply #51 |
97. I'm guessing s/he is paying little or no U.S.taxes. Just a hunch. |
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mwooldri
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Sat May-07-11 09:31 PM Response to Reply #33 |
59. So am I - a British ex-pat, but all children on US soil are entitled to an education. Period. |
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YvonneCa
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Sun May-08-11 12:23 PM Response to Reply #59 |
69. What a wonderful post. Thank you. n/t |
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YvonneCa
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Sun May-08-11 12:21 PM Response to Reply #33 |
68. You'd deport millions of people? Is that really... |
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psychopomp
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Sun May-08-11 01:34 PM Response to Reply #68 |
72. A journey of a thousand miles... |
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No Elephants
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Mon May-09-11 04:54 AM Response to Reply #72 |
98. Begins with a single step. We deport folks every day. We don't make a dent. |
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No Elephants
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Mon May-09-11 04:34 AM Response to Reply #33 |
94. An American living in Mexico, by any chance? Hey, if you're an expat, why is this your business? |
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Sat May-07-11 11:49 AM Response to Reply #4 |
26. Because they are humans. |
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proud2BlibKansan
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Sat May-07-11 02:56 PM Response to Reply #4 |
29. Would you rather have them in the streets? |
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psychopomp
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Sat May-07-11 06:42 PM Response to Reply #29 |
34. I remember that the US used to have truant officers |
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proud2BlibKansan
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Sat May-07-11 07:02 PM Response to Reply #34 |
40. School districts can't afford truant officers |
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psychopomp
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Sat May-07-11 07:40 PM Response to Reply #40 |
46. This has to be a national priority |
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proud2BlibKansan
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Sat May-07-11 07:43 PM Response to Reply #46 |
48. I can think of a lot of things that would be better uses of any found money |
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YvonneCa
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Sun May-08-11 12:19 PM Response to Reply #46 |
67. Define 'This'... |
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No Elephants
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Mon May-09-11 04:38 AM Response to Reply #46 |
95. ? The job of truant officers is--or was-- to make sure kids are in school. |
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harmonicon
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Sat May-07-11 05:57 PM Response to Reply #4 |
31. what doesn't make sense.... |
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psychopomp
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Sat May-07-11 06:44 PM Response to Reply #31 |
35. Good grief. Are there unicorns in your world? |
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harmonicon
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Sat May-07-11 06:50 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. Every country does it, and no country should. |
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No Elephants
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Mon May-09-11 05:23 AM Response to Reply #35 |
99. Are there unicorns in YOUR world? |
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sudopod
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Sat May-07-11 05:58 PM Response to Reply #4 |
32. A free education is a human right, Mr. Knowledge is Power. nt |
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psychopomp
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Sat May-07-11 06:46 PM Response to Reply #32 |
36. It is a right of American citizenship. |
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jberryhill
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Sat May-07-11 06:58 PM Response to Reply #36 |
39. Oh, really? And where is this written? |
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psychopomp
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Sat May-07-11 07:04 PM Response to Reply #39 |
43. You understand my point |
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jberryhill
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Sat May-07-11 08:30 PM Response to Reply #43 |
52. Oh really? Where? |
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psychopomp
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Sat May-07-11 08:47 PM Response to Reply #52 |
56. I think that discussions of "rights" tends to become one of commonly held assumed privileges |
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No Elephants
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Mon May-09-11 07:18 AM Response to Reply #56 |
110. "commonly held assumed privileges?" Jaysus! What a word soup salad sandwich. |
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psychopomp
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Sat May-07-11 08:56 PM Response to Reply #52 |
58. You are really reaching, don't you think? |
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No Elephants
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Mon May-09-11 05:52 AM Response to Reply #43 |
102. Not sure we do, psychopomp. To have people understand your point, you have |
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proud2BlibKansan
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Sat May-07-11 07:02 PM Response to Reply #36 |
41. How do you know that? |
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jberryhill
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Sat May-07-11 08:32 PM Response to Reply #41 |
53. From the Book Of Stuff I Make Up As I Go /nt |
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YvonneCa
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Sun May-08-11 12:28 PM Response to Reply #36 |
70. Do you know how to tell a child's citizenship... |
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No Elephants
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Mon May-09-11 05:36 AM Response to Reply #36 |
101. No, you don't know "that much." You simply made that up, which seems |
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mwooldri
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Sat May-07-11 09:34 PM Response to Reply #32 |
60. Start here: |
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totodeinhere
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Sun May-08-11 01:49 PM Response to Reply #32 |
74. Does it's being a human right obligate any country to educate any and all children no matter |
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sudopod
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Mon May-09-11 02:15 PM Response to Reply #74 |
119. >Implying that anyone said that we're responsible for the human rights of everyone in the world. nt |
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YvonneCa
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Sat May-07-11 07:10 PM Response to Reply #4 |
44. Because I, as their teacher, am not... |
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psychopomp
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Sat May-07-11 07:43 PM Response to Reply #44 |
47. You are correct, it is the principal's job to sort it out |
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jberryhill
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Sat May-07-11 08:36 PM Response to Reply #47 |
54. Illegals have done more for me than you have |
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psychopomp
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Sat May-07-11 08:48 PM Response to Reply #54 |
57. Based on what? |
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YvonneCa
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Sat May-07-11 11:29 PM Response to Reply #47 |
62. Principals are not... |
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psychopomp
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Sat May-07-11 11:39 PM Response to Reply #62 |
63. Don't they also determine whether a student should be expelled? |
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proud2BlibKansan
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Sun May-08-11 11:54 AM Response to Reply #63 |
65. Expulsions are based on behavior, not birthplace |
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YvonneCa
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Sun May-08-11 12:14 PM Response to Reply #63 |
66. No. District policies... |
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psychopomp
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Sun May-08-11 01:39 PM Response to Reply #66 |
73. Okay, so who is the arbiter of that process? |
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YvonneCa
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Sun May-08-11 04:17 PM Response to Reply #73 |
84. School Board... |
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No Elephants
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Mon May-09-11 06:12 AM Response to Reply #84 |
105. School boards do not have any power to make themselves immigration agents, no |
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YvonneCa
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Mon May-09-11 09:49 AM Response to Reply #105 |
117. We agree. n/t |
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No Elephants
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Mon May-09-11 05:58 AM Response to Reply #63 |
103. Um, yes, if you're referring to being expelled for violation of school policies. Schools and school |
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Mon May-09-11 06:04 AM Response to Reply #47 |
104. Nope. You made that up, too. It's not the job of any school official or any |
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mwooldri
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Sat May-07-11 09:39 PM Response to Reply #4 |
61. UN Declaration of Human Rights. US is signatory to this. |
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No Elephants
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Mon May-09-11 05:29 AM Response to Reply #61 |
100. Why "of all people?" |
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No Elephants
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Mon May-09-11 04:15 AM Response to Reply #4 |
92. No kid--no human being--is "illegal." An action can be illegal, like |
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CBGLuthier
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Mon May-09-11 08:19 AM Response to Reply #4 |
116. You mean how can people who were brought here at the age of two months |
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Downwinder
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Fri May-06-11 07:41 PM Response to Original message |
5. Isn't school attendance mandatory in most States? |
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DRoseDARs
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Fri May-06-11 07:55 PM Response to Reply #5 |
10. This is about the children of illegal immigrants, and possibly homeless children. |
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No Elephants
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Mon May-09-11 06:17 AM Response to Reply #10 |
106. Why is it a very tough subject from a legal standpoint? Federal law is all that matters |
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Fri May-06-11 07:47 PM Response to Original message |
9. Was somebody actually trying to deny the children of illegal aliens |
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DRoseDARs
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Fri May-06-11 08:23 PM Response to Reply #9 |
13. You'll probably catch some flak for "anchor babies" but I do see your point. |
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Fri May-06-11 10:16 PM Response to Reply #9 |
17. I think regardless of one's view of immigration policy and enforcement... |
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Sun May-08-11 10:32 PM Response to Reply #9 |
89. Correction....illegal "immigrants" (they're not really aliens...at least they don't look like E.T.) |
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Mon May-09-11 06:26 AM Response to Reply #89 |
107. Um, no. Science fiction does not define the word "alien." Google the definitions of "alien" in the |
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Tue May-10-11 02:43 PM Response to Reply #89 |
122. Incorrect - 'aliens' is the proper term for non-citizens. |
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defendandprotect
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Fri May-06-11 08:12 PM Response to Original message |
12. GOP will be working a bit harder next week to destroy Dept. of Education -- !!! |
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alp227
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Fri May-06-11 09:28 PM Response to Original message |
15. a more effective and enforced immigration system would prevent govt from doing this |
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harmonicon
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Sat May-07-11 05:54 PM Response to Reply #15 |
30. learn English? |
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alp227
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Sun May-08-11 02:26 PM Response to Reply #30 |
76. I've heard that "learn English" talking point circulated among immigration reform proponents |
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harmonicon
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Sun May-08-11 09:53 PM Response to Reply #76 |
85. why shouldn't the citizenship test be given in any language? |
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alp227
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Sun May-08-11 10:08 PM Response to Reply #85 |
86. well if you wanna survive in america you gotta be english proficient |
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harmonicon
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Sun May-08-11 10:17 PM Response to Reply #86 |
87. and you live in California?! |
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No Elephants
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Mon May-09-11 06:58 AM Response to Reply #15 |
108. Please see Replies 92 and 104 as to sources of federal authority in this matter. |
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Fri May-06-11 09:55 PM Response to Original message |
16. Right on! |
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IronicNews
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Fri May-06-11 11:18 PM Response to Reply #16 |
20. IntheFlow |
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No Elephants
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Mon May-09-11 07:25 AM Response to Reply #16 |
113. Op says this is a reminder of existing law/policy. |
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Fri May-06-11 11:17 PM Response to Original message |
19. Maybe this won't make me popular.... |
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Downwinder
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Fri May-06-11 11:21 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. I think you would have liked my two room school. |
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intheflow
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Fri May-06-11 11:36 PM Response to Reply #19 |
22. No. Too Thoreauian. |
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Keith Bee
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Sat May-07-11 11:33 AM Response to Reply #19 |
25. "When I think back on all the crap I learned in high school..... |
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primavera
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Sat May-07-11 12:36 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. And with all the rightwing, religious brainwashing going on nowadays... |
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EFerrari
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Sun May-08-11 12:03 AM Response to Reply #19 |
64. I'm like that, too. |
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No Elephants
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Mon May-09-11 07:03 AM Response to Reply #19 |
109. Self delete. |
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Sat May-07-11 12:44 PM Response to Original message |
28. Good |
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alp227
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Sun May-08-11 02:31 PM Response to Reply #28 |
77. the CONs don't realize that America is exceptional for its opportunities |
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totodeinhere
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Sun May-08-11 02:40 PM Response to Reply #77 |
78. No, American exceptionalism does not exist. By any objective measure there are |
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joshcryer
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Mon May-09-11 02:24 AM Response to Reply #78 |
91. Go to those "many countries" and tell us how inclusive they are. |
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No Elephants
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Mon May-09-11 07:21 AM Response to Reply #91 |
111. Um, no the U.S. has not been an immigration friendly society for the entirety of its existence. |
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Solly Mack
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Sat May-07-11 07:03 PM Response to Original message |
42. k/r |
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Blandocyte
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Sat May-07-11 07:56 PM Response to Original message |
50. Smilie! :-) |
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Oasis_
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Sun May-08-11 01:20 PM Response to Reply #50 |
71. It is settled law (SCOTUS 1982 decision) |
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psychopomp
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Sun May-08-11 01:49 PM Response to Reply #71 |
75. Finally, a common sense reply |
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alp227
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Sun May-08-11 02:42 PM Response to Reply #71 |
79. yes, let's find a compromise between 100% amnesty and 100% deportation |
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Oasis_
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Sun May-08-11 02:59 PM Response to Reply #79 |
81. Excellent post |
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Sun May-08-11 10:29 PM Response to Reply #79 |
88. A lifetime ban on re-entry? That's what "illegal immigrants" have now, and it doesn't work. |
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alp227
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Mon May-09-11 01:57 AM Response to Reply #88 |
90. umm, border security? easier legal immigration? |
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No Elephants
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Mon May-09-11 07:36 AM Response to Reply #79 |
114. Generalities seem deceptively easy. Our ability to find undocumented aliens |
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Sun May-08-11 02:47 PM Response to Reply #71 |
80. It would not be practical de deport them all. Everyone knows that. However, if we |
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Sun May-08-11 03:26 PM Response to Reply #71 |
82. Which of the 12+ million should we go after? |
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Sun May-08-11 03:36 PM Response to Reply #82 |
83. Post 79 |
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Mon May-09-11 07:46 AM Response to Reply #83 |
115. Please see Reply 112. |
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CreekDog
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Mon May-09-11 02:31 PM Response to Reply #82 |
120. Get them on a path to legalization and get them paying into SS and Medicare |
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Mon May-09-11 07:23 AM Response to Reply #71 |
112. Please see Replies 92., 99. ,108.and 114. |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag
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Tue May-10-11 02:15 PM Response to Original message |
121. Correct. It's not a school's business to do the INS's work for them. |
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