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Bozita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 10:40 AM Original message |
New study: You can't live on minimum wage |
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Orrex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 10:40 AM Response to Original message |
1. Stop the presses! |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 10:41 AM Response to Original message |
2. I can't recall a time when a person could have lived on minimum wage in my area |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 12:09 PM Response to Reply #2 |
21. Minimum wage has never been indexed to inflation, which is its major flaw. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 12:31 PM Response to Reply #21 |
24. The federal minimum wage pre-dates any official federal poverty level by decades |
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RUMMYisFROSTED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 01:26 PM Response to Reply #24 |
28. The point is taken...but... |
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a2liberal (381 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 02:19 PM Response to Reply #28 |
49. Looks to me like the graph is indexed already |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 02:29 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. Sorry, I left out the link to the page the chart is from - It's in 2010 dollars |
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Capitalocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-11 03:18 AM Response to Reply #51 |
186. I'd love to see a graph comparing average wages versus minimum |
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Tiggeroshii (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 06:43 PM Response to Reply #21 |
106. Now I looked this up recently, and found that the minimum wage in the 30s, indexed with inflation |
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awoke_in_2003 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 10:17 PM Response to Reply #106 |
160. when the model A rolled out... |
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Art_from_Ark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-11 07:56 AM Response to Reply #160 |
193. Actually, that was $5 a day |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 06:52 PM Response to Reply #21 |
111. I was able to live on minimum wage when I was in |
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kevinbgoode (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 09:03 PM Response to Reply #111 |
140. I agree - it sure wasn't a great existence. . .but I was barely |
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SheilaT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 09:58 PM Response to Reply #111 |
156. Yep. My very first job as a nurse's aid |
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librechik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-02-11 12:17 PM Response to Reply #111 |
226. me too--I found cheap places to live ($50-65/month) and $1.65/hr I made w shift differential |
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awoke_in_2003 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 10:14 PM Response to Reply #21 |
159. "Minimum wage has never been indexed to inflation"... |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-11 08:46 AM Response to Reply #159 |
198. Nor has the Alternative Minimum Tax |
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individual rights (85 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 06:21 PM Response to Reply #2 |
103. The cost of living varies widely from region to region... |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 06:44 PM Response to Reply #103 |
108. That's why states and some localities have their own minimum wage laws |
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Tiggeroshii (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 06:47 PM Response to Reply #108 |
110. This makes sense |
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awoke_in_2003 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 10:18 PM Response to Reply #108 |
162. and very few of the states.... |
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quiller4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 10:44 PM Response to Reply #162 |
167. 17 states have state minimum wages that are higher than the fed |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-11 02:01 AM Response to Reply #2 |
182. Ten years befor that you could. My MIL was abandoned by her husband in 1965 |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-11 08:47 AM Response to Reply #182 |
199. I'd bet a bucket of beer she didn't live in San Diego |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-11 04:13 PM Response to Reply #199 |
211. No, Seattle. What she did would have been impossible 15 years later n/t |
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Uncle Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 10:42 AM Response to Original message |
3. No screaming puppy poop. |
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ejpoeta (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 10:43 AM Response to Original message |
4. pretty sure i didn't need a study to tell me that. thanks though. |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 10:43 AM Response to Original message |
5. I read about this in No Shit Magazine. nt |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 10:44 AM Response to Original message |
6. plenty of DUers think mcjobs are a GREAT thing. nt |
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BobbyBoring (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 11:24 AM Response to Reply #6 |
13. I am not among them |
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wpelb (292 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 05:18 PM Response to Reply #13 |
95. How much would a crappy cheeseburger cost . . . |
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plumbob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 06:44 PM Response to Reply #95 |
109. Cheeseburger would cost the same no matter the wage. |
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chervilant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 10:59 PM Response to Reply #109 |
169. Awesome rebuttal to that utter nonsense! n/t |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-11 04:39 AM Response to Reply #109 |
187. +1.. clearest post in the thread right here. . . . .n/t |
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FBaggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-11 03:12 PM Response to Reply #109 |
209. One error in there |
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Abq_Sarah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-02-11 05:02 PM Response to Reply #109 |
228. You have a point about the taxes |
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obxhead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 07:21 PM Response to Reply #95 |
119. Bullshit. |
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Wednesdays (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 09:22 PM Response to Reply #95 |
144. Maybe with better wages, |
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chervilant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 10:58 PM Response to Reply #95 |
168. Wow... |
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guitar man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 11:22 PM Response to Reply #95 |
172. It would cost what the market would bear |
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Dokkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 01:27 PM Response to Reply #6 |
29. you may not know this |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 01:55 PM Response to Reply #29 |
42. Really? Do enlighten us wise one. nt |
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PotatoChip (481 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 03:02 PM Response to Reply #29 |
60. That is a good question |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 04:18 PM Response to Reply #60 |
82. BLS has it |
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PotatoChip (481 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 04:37 PM Response to Reply #82 |
87. Interesting. Plenty of good info |
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Ter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 02:23 PM Response to Reply #6 |
50. They are, for 16 year olds that live at home |
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harmonicon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 02:49 PM Response to Reply #50 |
58. not really. |
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On the Road (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 05:19 PM Response to Reply #58 |
96. That is a Very Good Point |
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Ter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 07:09 PM Response to Reply #96 |
115. When I got my first job in 1993, I got whatever the NJ minimum wage was |
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Ter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 07:05 PM Response to Reply #58 |
114. So what are you saying, those 16 year olds shouldn't work at all? |
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harmonicon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-11 10:52 AM Response to Reply #114 |
204. I'm not saying that at all. |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 05:48 PM Response to Reply #6 |
101. No as in ZERO DUers think that. But plenty of folks seem to project that on other DUers. n/t |
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HughBeaumont (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 10:46 AM Response to Original message |
7. REAGAN BEATS MONDALE IN A LANDSLIDE! |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 03:36 PM Response to Reply #7 |
66. Too bad Rayguneconomics |
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HughBeaumont (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 05:14 PM Response to Reply #66 |
93. It's funny how that whole mess of a system has his namesake . . . |
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joanbarnes (204 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 10:57 AM Response to Original message |
8. Duh! How much did this "study" cost? |
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AnnetteJacobs (54 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 09:33 PM Response to Reply #8 |
147. See post #38. |
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canuckledragger (124 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 10:27 PM Response to Reply #147 |
165. post 38 isn't the best example |
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livingonearth (451 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 10:57 AM Response to Original message |
9. That doesn't mean the repubs won't still want to abolish it so they can pay less. |
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OhioChick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 10:59 AM Response to Original message |
10. No shit headline n/t |
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ck4829 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 10:59 AM Response to Original message |
11. You can't? But the Tea Party says you can live for less than minimum wage! |
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russspeakeasy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 01:25 PM Response to Reply #11 |
27. You can live on minimum wage, but not for long. |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 01:46 PM Response to Reply #11 |
39. That would be Muslin. |
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booley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 02:29 PM Response to Reply #11 |
52. I've noticed something |
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elocs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 02:45 PM Response to Reply #52 |
56. I can live on minimum wage, but that's just me. |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 03:39 PM Response to Reply #52 |
69. What gets me is that this women of twins |
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Vanje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 04:24 PM Response to Reply #11 |
84. You can live for less than Min wage in yo mamma's basement |
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zalinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 11:06 AM Response to Original message |
12. And those on SSI, have to live on less than minimum wage n/t |
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RebelOne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 12:09 PM Response to Reply #12 |
22. Yep, I living on it. $1,400 a month doesn't go far. |
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happyslug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 01:42 PM Response to Reply #22 |
36. Nationally SSI is only $674, SS Disability can pay better, but is a different program |
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RebelOne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 03:29 PM Response to Reply #36 |
63. Sorry, I did not specify that I am receiving Social Security |
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Safetykitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 11:26 AM Response to Original message |
14. I want the final results from a 20 year/300 million study from the Feds by 2050. That will settle it |
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Courtesy Flush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 11:28 AM Response to Original message |
15. I assume they mean without government programs. |
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semillama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 01:34 PM Response to Reply #15 |
31. You nailed it right on the head |
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tblue37 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 01:40 PM Response to Reply #31 |
35. I think the way Wal-mart employees depend on things |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 03:46 PM Response to Reply #31 |
70. In states with newly elected |
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pitohui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 11:30 AM Response to Original message |
16. file this under the "no shit sherlock" category |
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SoapBox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 11:41 AM Response to Original message |
17. Well DUH! |
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KamaAina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 11:52 AM Response to Original message |
18. Much, much more in this month's issue of DUH! magazine |
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Lugnut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 11:56 AM Response to Original message |
19. Another gem from the no-shit-Sherlock file. |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 11:57 AM Response to Original message |
20. No shit, why do they think I'm on SSI? |
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IScreamSundays (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 12:23 PM Response to Original message |
23. We needed a study for this?? |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 03:48 PM Response to Reply #23 |
71. Lots of teabaggers and selfish |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 01:15 PM Response to Original message |
25. In other news, water is wet |
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bluerum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 01:22 PM Response to Original message |
26. Shaking my head in disbelief. Someone actually commissioned this study? |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 03:49 PM Response to Reply #26 |
72. You sound like |
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bluerum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 05:26 PM Response to Reply #72 |
98. No. Just wondering why it takes research to learn something so damn obvious. |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 06:43 PM Response to Reply #98 |
107. You must live |
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bluerum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 09:02 PM Response to Reply #107 |
139. I live in MA. You would starve and or freeze and or die of disease on minimum wage here. |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 10:19 PM Response to Reply #139 |
163. then why are we disagreeing w/ |
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bluerum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-11 10:16 AM Response to Reply #163 |
202. Not disagreeing. My position is that the conclusion of the study should be obvious to a one eyed |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-11 11:00 AM Response to Reply #202 |
206. Look what the Repugnants |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 08:58 PM Response to Reply #26 |
136. Just because "everybody knows that" doesnt mean an empirical study is worthless. n/t |
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Luciferous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 01:34 PM Response to Original message |
30. Anyone with basic math skills could tell you that. They really needed to do a study? |
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cliffordu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 01:35 PM Response to Original message |
32. We should have a "GD:No Shit Sherlock" board. |
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canuckledragger (124 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 01:38 PM Response to Original message |
33. as a person well used to minimum wage work let me say.. |
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AnnetteJacobs (54 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 09:39 PM Response to Reply #33 |
152. See post #38. |
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canuckledragger (124 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 11:09 PM Response to Reply #152 |
171. How about a constructive argument from yourself |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 01:40 PM Response to Original message |
34. Well no shit. |
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slay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 01:45 PM Response to Original message |
37. And yet the billionaires and corporations who have bought our government don't give a shit |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 01:46 PM Response to Original message |
38. the study looks ridiculous to me - $12.24 an hour? |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 01:52 PM Response to Reply #38 |
41. Depends on where you live and what support system such as |
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radhika (563 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 01:58 PM Response to Reply #38 |
45. What are your expenses like - if you don't mind my asking... |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 03:38 PM Response to Reply #45 |
68. the study said that a single, childless person needs $12 an hour |
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The Flaming Red Head (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 10:43 PM Response to Reply #68 |
166. No bad neighborhoods in small towns? |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 01:59 PM Response to Reply #38 |
46. You can throw up anecdotal evidence to try to dispute anything - |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 03:58 PM Response to Reply #46 |
75. because I think the argument is ridiculous |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 04:12 PM Response to Reply #75 |
80. It's an average - I grew up in what I used to affectionately call "bumblefuck Wisconsin" - |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 07:20 PM Response to Reply #80 |
118. I would expect the average to include lots of non-urban, cheaper areas |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 09:21 PM Response to Reply #118 |
143. How is $15 an hour a ridiculous argument? In what universe? |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-11 02:27 AM Response to Reply #143 |
183. in this one |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-11 06:42 AM Response to Reply #183 |
190. Reactionary crap. |
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wickerwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 09:26 PM Response to Reply #75 |
145. You can live on less than $24 an hour, |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-11 01:05 AM Response to Reply #145 |
180. well 50 years ago was a long time ago |
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elocs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 04:01 PM Response to Reply #38 |
77. As others have said, on average, people cannot live on minimum wage. Individual mileage may differ. |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 07:32 PM Response to Reply #77 |
121. the point is that one of their key findings is ridiculous |
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bread_and_roses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-11 06:34 AM Response to Reply #121 |
189. There is NOTHING ridiculous about $15 hr minimum wage |
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juajen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 04:03 PM Response to Reply #38 |
78. Well, dogs don't need clothes, school fees, braces, etc., you name it. NT |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 07:42 PM Response to Reply #78 |
125. neither do single people |
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Justitia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 08:29 PM Response to Reply #125 |
132. Single people don't need clothes? Maybe you can afford it because you live in Nowheresville, KS |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-11 01:40 AM Response to Reply #132 |
181. they have my sympathy for that |
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Justitia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-11 08:53 AM Response to Reply #181 |
200. LOL - Houston is an "abomination", ha, too funny. What's the matter w/Kansas, indeed. |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-11 01:58 PM Response to Reply #200 |
208. "I'm not a doctor |
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Justitia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-11 04:18 PM Response to Reply #208 |
212. See, I'd rather be eaten by bears.... |
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OutNow (538 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 01:47 PM Response to Original message |
40. Nickel and Dimed: On (Not) Getting By in America |
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CrispyQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 03:37 PM Response to Reply #40 |
67. I almost cried when I read the section of the young Walmart worker |
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wickerwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 09:28 PM Response to Reply #67 |
146. I did cry at the section |
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Initech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 01:57 PM Response to Original message |
43. Was this printed in DUH! Magazine? |
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liberal N proud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 01:58 PM Response to Original message |
44. It took a study to determine this? |
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sakabatou (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 02:15 PM Response to Original message |
47. No shit, really? |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 02:16 PM Response to Original message |
48. Oh, you CAN live on it. You just have to cram in a couple dozen |
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pinqy (536 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 02:32 PM Response to Original message |
53. What the article fails to mention |
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msider (51 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 02:42 PM Response to Original message |
54. K&R |
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harmonicon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 02:44 PM Response to Original message |
55. How true. |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 03:55 PM Response to Reply #55 |
74. What would have happened to you |
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harmonicon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-11 10:48 AM Response to Reply #74 |
203. I would still be screwed without my family. |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-11 10:55 AM Response to Reply #203 |
205. Michael Moore said something |
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harmonicon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-11 07:50 PM Response to Reply #205 |
217. I love living in the UK. |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-11 09:18 PM Original message |
I'm green |
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harmonicon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-11 10:01 PM Response to Original message |
220. Well, the food here is terrible. |
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Justitia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-11 10:08 PM Response to Reply #220 |
221. I loved being an expat in London (the transportation is fantastic!), but I ate a LOT of spaghetti! |
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harmonicon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-02-11 12:56 PM Response to Reply #221 |
227. Yeah, I've gained weight here. |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-02-11 10:13 AM Response to Reply #220 |
225. I spent a very short time in England.... |
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blackspade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 02:46 PM Response to Original message |
57. Obvious study is obvious. |
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LynneSin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 02:55 PM Response to Original message |
59. Wow, I could have told them that without all the fancy researcher |
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GeorgeGist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 03:23 PM Response to Original message |
61. If we lowered the maximum wage for all Americans ... |
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OverDone (62 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 03:26 PM Response to Original message |
62. Insane what is going on, Just have to look at the numbers |
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Iggo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 03:29 PM Response to Original message |
64. Man, I gotta get me some study money! |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 03:59 PM Response to Reply #64 |
76. Then maybe you better take |
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Iggo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 05:01 PM Response to Reply #76 |
90. I don't care who the fuck put out the study. |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 05:17 PM Response to Reply #90 |
94. And everyone and their brother knows the Earth is flat. |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 05:20 PM Response to Reply #90 |
97. Then go get yourself |
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AllyCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 03:30 PM Response to Original message |
65. They needed to do a study to figure that out? Even with science on our side |
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Corruption Winz (581 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 03:53 PM Response to Original message |
73. The way they get away with minimum wage is that you technically.... |
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Withywindle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-02-11 12:41 AM Response to Reply #73 |
223. You very well MIGHT die. |
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electricD (93 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 04:08 PM Response to Original message |
79. if the republican business/corporate owners |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 04:14 PM Response to Original message |
81. Why are we always focusing on how to minimize wages for our populace? |
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tclambert (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 04:27 PM Response to Reply #81 |
85. The study also found that Bill Gates COULD live on his income. |
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TrollBuster9090 (569 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 04:22 PM Response to Original message |
83. I'll wait until that study on Bears Shitting in The Woods comes out before I get excited. nt |
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wowimthere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 04:36 PM Response to Original message |
86. Duhh |
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Ramulux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 04:42 PM Response to Original message |
88. Is this a joke? |
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BlueJac (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 04:52 PM Response to Original message |
89. NO SHIT!!!! |
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Vinca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 05:02 PM Response to Original message |
91. Wow - real shocker there. |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 05:08 PM Response to Original message |
92. I find this unlikely |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 05:54 PM Response to Reply #92 |
102. Apples and oranges. Illegal aliens have a number of things going on that make this possible. Such as |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 06:38 PM Response to Reply #102 |
105. In California, the clinics and hospitals |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-11 08:43 AM Response to Reply #102 |
197. Yes yes, illegals get so many handouts |
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Arrowhead2k1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 05:33 PM Response to Original message |
99. Should have voted for The Rent is Too Damn High Party. nt |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 05:38 PM Response to Original message |
100. So, what's your point? |
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pettypace (695 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 06:30 PM Response to Original message |
104. A person can live on minimum wage. |
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JAnthony (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 06:55 PM Response to Reply #104 |
112. IF, IF, IF IF..... |
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pettypace (695 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 07:38 PM Response to Reply #112 |
123. You won't be earning mim wage for ever. |
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theHandpuppet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-11 05:31 AM Response to Reply #112 |
188. Exactly.That "budget" presumes a lot |
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plumbob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 07:01 PM Response to Reply #104 |
113. Good gosh, things are cheap in your part of the country. Here in west Texas, |
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pettypace (695 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 07:34 PM Response to Reply #113 |
122. I lived in Austin |
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plumbob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 09:08 PM Response to Reply #122 |
142. I'm in Odessa. Here's some other info for you on apartments: |
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pettypace (695 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 11:25 PM Response to Reply #142 |
173. Again my scenario is for a single individual |
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plumbob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-11 12:58 AM Response to Reply #173 |
179. Cost of living in the oilpatch is always higher than most anywhere else. |
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harmonicon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-11 04:08 PM Response to Reply #122 |
210. HAHAHA! Don't need internet! You're funny. nt. |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-11 09:15 PM Response to Reply #113 |
218. It is unfortunate that cooking at home is impossible |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 07:11 PM Response to Reply #104 |
116. not sure where you live but it is impossible where I am from |
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pettypace (695 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 07:42 PM Response to Reply #116 |
124. Boston is pricey |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 09:37 PM Response to Reply #124 |
149. it depends on the area of Boston |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 07:51 PM Response to Reply #104 |
126. Math is off |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 10:18 PM Response to Reply #104 |
161. The most basic rentals in my area average at the |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 07:18 PM Response to Original message |
117. Wait |
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FirstLight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 08:14 PM Response to Reply #117 |
128. We have a WINNER! |
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kelly1mm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 08:49 PM Response to Reply #117 |
134. Actually, isn't it the President that said no tax increases for those making 250K |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 09:01 PM Response to Reply #134 |
138. Actually, |
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kelly1mm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 09:07 PM Response to Reply #138 |
141. I may be wrong (certainly NOT the 1st time) but I thought that the |
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RT_Fanatic (162 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 07:27 PM Response to Original message |
120. Mind boggling. |
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RoccoR5955 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 08:03 PM Response to Original message |
127. Who the hell needs to spend money on a study to find this out?!?!?! |
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guitar man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 08:22 PM Response to Original message |
129. No shit? |
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AnnetteJacobs (54 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 09:38 PM Response to Reply #129 |
151. See post #38. |
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guitar man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-11 09:06 AM Response to Reply #151 |
201. yeah, so |
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DesertDiamond (838 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 08:22 PM Response to Original message |
130. WOW!!!! THIS IS NEWS!!!! |
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DesertDiamond (838 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 08:24 PM Response to Reply #130 |
131. And now that I'm done with my sarcasm attack, this is awesome, awesome that a study has actually |
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mdmc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 08:41 PM Response to Original message |
133. Take THAT DLC! |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 08:55 PM Response to Original message |
135. DUH! And you can't survive on eating only rocks. nt |
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AnnetteJacobs (54 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 09:34 PM Response to Reply #135 |
148. See post #38. |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 09:38 PM Response to Reply #148 |
150. #38 must not live in the Northeast and must depend on others to share |
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canuckledragger (124 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-11 12:32 AM Response to Reply #150 |
176. Methinks we have a sock puppet here or something |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 08:59 PM Response to Original message |
137. Some of the responses to this OP are pathetic. "Everybody knows that" is not evidence. THIS STUDY IS |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 09:40 PM Response to Reply #137 |
153. So this will convince people who have no clue what it is to survive in this economy. |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 09:48 PM Response to Reply #153 |
154. What is difficult to get about this? It's Hard evidence vs. Supposition. |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 09:50 PM Response to Reply #154 |
155. Most people LIVE the hard evidence. Duh. nt |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 10:25 PM Response to Reply #155 |
164. Duh - that doesnt do you any good on an internet discussion - duh |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-11 12:20 PM Response to Reply #164 |
207. As I said, it's to convince people who have no clue that people can't |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-11 09:18 PM Response to Reply #137 |
219. One study, on a subjective subject, from a likely biased group is conclusive? |
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AsahinaKimi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 10:03 PM Response to Original message |
157. Well, not if you live in California.... |
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awoke_in_2003 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 10:11 PM Response to Original message |
158. New study (just a few minutes old)... |
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TalkingDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 11:04 PM Response to Original message |
170. A Modest Proposal from Adopt-A-Billionaire Charity Drive |
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burrowowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 11:26 PM Response to Original message |
174. Noooo! Really! |
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gtar100 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 11:50 PM Response to Original message |
175. Remember - If somone is willing to pay you minimum wage |
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steelmania75 (836 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-11 12:36 AM Response to Original message |
177. Minimum Wage should be at least 20 bucks. There's no way anyone can live on 7 bucks an hour 40 hour |
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LibertyFox (124 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-11 04:26 PM Response to Reply #177 |
214. And say goodbye to the economy |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-11 12:41 AM Response to Original message |
178. minimum wage is an insult... Americans have been conditioned to accept as the norm. |
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LibertyFox (124 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-11 04:25 PM Response to Reply #178 |
213. They're being taught that you should make a career on minimum wage jobs |
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Tripod (534 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-11 03:09 AM Response to Original message |
184. Oh Shit, I'm screwed! |
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Capitalocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-11 03:14 AM Response to Original message |
185. Why is nobody talking about a living wage? |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-11 06:43 AM Response to Reply #185 |
191. They are not talking about it because that is also reactionary - |
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Yon_Yonson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-11 07:23 AM Response to Original message |
192. No .... No .... No .... Tell me it ain’t so! |
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dotymed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-11 08:16 AM Response to Original message |
194. Those wages, I assume, do not include |
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redwitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-11 08:22 AM Response to Original message |
195. My assemblyman thinks the minimum wage is too high. |
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-11 08:32 AM Response to Original message |
196. k&r |
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Manifestor_of_Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-11 04:41 PM Response to Original message |
215. From the N.S. Sherlock Research institute |
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sarcasmo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-11 07:45 PM Response to Original message |
216. The no shitter award. |
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rocktivity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-11 11:15 PM Response to Original message |
222. Candidate for this year's "You Call This NEWS?" Award |
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Roland99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-02-11 09:14 AM Response to Original message |
224. Drive-By Truckers - "Working This Job" |
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