Paul Ryan Confronted By Bible-Wielding Protester Decrying Ayn Rand

[kpete]

Source: Talking Points Memo

Paul Ryan was chased by a protester waving a giant Bible and decrying libertarian author Ayn Rand on his way out of the Faith and Freedom Conference, a social conservative gathering in DC where he delivered a speech on his budget.

"Why did you choose to model your budget on the extreme ideology of Ayn Rand rather than the faith of economic justice in the Bible?" the blond, 20-something male asked. He said he wanted to "present" Ryan with a Bible to teach him how to help the "most vulnerable."

Ryan talked to reporters briefly and signed autographs for fans, largely ignoring the protester.
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"Our rights our not given to us from government, our rights are given to us naturally, given by God," he said, adding that "applying these principles" is what keeps America from entering decline each generation.


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[Hubert Flottz]

1. I hope it gets so that punk can't walk down any street in the US...

without someone giving him hell.

[Snoutport]

2. that would be sweet :0) getting it from the right and the left

[quakerboy]

15. I think just from the left.

"Why did you choose to model your budget on the extreme ideology of Ayn Rand rather than the faith of economic justice in the Bible?" the blond, 20-something male asked. He said he wanted to "present" Ryan with a Bible to teach him how to help the "most vulnerable."

That's a leftie. A Christian who actually read the bible, not just select verses.

[Ghost Dog]

29. What is this biblical "economic justice", faith in which should model budgets, pray tell?

From a leftie pov?

[quakerboy]

33. Which direction do you want me to take on this

Providing for the poor?
Periodic debt forgiveness?
Not setting up a system of debt to suck people in?
Not stealing or lying, precluding taking advantage of the less well off or under informed that way?
The clear demand that Christians give away what they possess to charity?
The specific demand that rulers stand tall in protection of the unfortunate, unhealthy, and poor?

As I read it, there's even a fair defensible rational in the bible for communistic living, and evidence the early church did so, prior to becoming a state religion under Constantine. What most Americans perceive to be "Christianity" is a lie that implodes under even the most cursory scrutiny.

[Nihil]

42. Nice post! (n/t)

:thumbsup:

[plumbob]

5. That WOULD be awesome!

It's obvious he never has understood anything about caring for people.

[Hubert Flottz]

6. The only people republicans "Care" about is themselves.

Heartless, soulless, self centered, thieves, liars and hypocrites.

Nobody but a damned fool would trust a republican politician.

[plumbob]

18. I agree. No idea where they get the votes they get.

NO idea.

[Hubert Flottz]

25. Diebold, SCOTUS and the crooks all over the US who throw the

people's votes in the trash, in order to trash our already fragile American "Democracy," in the name of greed. We have the best "Democracy" the corporations and their propagandists can buy. That's why voting for the candidate left standing at general election time kind of feels like when you think you're about to let a big fart for some relief, but instead you find to your total dismay that you have a case of the explosive dribbling shits.

[plumbob]

26. I do believe you've hit it exactly!

Unfortunately.

[Enthusiast]

34. They aren't even particularly ideological.

Unless that ideology is "MORE".

[The Doctor.]

19. Faire enough.

;)

[TxVietVet]

3. That's the type of people he attracts that believe his chrisitan conservanazi bu$hit.

[Voice for Peace]

4. hmm sounds like a liberal

trying to stir up the christian right against ryan

[harmonicon]

12. Or just a concerned Christian.

My mother is a pretty serious Christian, and simply doesn't understand how other Christians can vote for Republicans. She's more than old enough to remember that there were a lot of Christian groups working for civil rights, and against unjust wars at one time.

[juxtaposed]

7. Don't you just love this shit!!!! eat your own now..

[TexasProgresive]

9. Aren't you making a unfounded assumption?

Just because the man had a bible doesn't make him right wing. He sounds like a progressive Christian. You probably think that is a oxymoron but there are plenty out here. Most keep their mouths shut around other liberals and progressives because we get tired of being told that we are fools for believing in God.

[quakerboy]

16. Yup

I will take it a step further.

Christians are lefties.

Anyone claiming to be Christian while supporting the goals and ideals of the modern Republic party is a liar.

[RepublicanElephant]

40. amen. nt

:)

[WatsonT]

41. I believe MLK was a bit of a christian

The *Reverend* Martin Luther King Jr.

People have odd views about religion on here.

[distantearlywarning]

8. Hee hee hee.

I knew this issue would catch up with the right someday. I am very amused.

[SpiralHawk]

10. RepubliBudget + BibleBudget = FailOnomics

D'oh - do da math. Check the record.

Save America. Avoid RepubliWhackOs of all perversions: religious, Randian, and/or Randy.

[boppers]

11. Which punk?

The one basing their belief system on outrageous stories, based on paper thin characters, with unlikely conclusions, rooted solely in delusional fantasies?

Which punk would that be?

[blm]

13. THIS is the battle that NEEDS to happen. Randian Republicans have used Christians for over 30yrs now

.

[annabanana]

14. +1.. .Here's to the progressive strain of Christianity!. . . n/t

[SoapBox]

17. Wow...one crazy chasing another crazy.

Both of them are just plain nutz.

[askeptic]

20. Ayn Rand was an atheist - seems to be unknown by masses

I think it's important to make it known to the "religious" masses that Ayn's philosophy of objectivism is not based on any religious ideas.

[donheld]

21. Ann Rand + Republicans + Jesus = a colossal mess.

I don't understand why Christians mix so well with that woman.

[Pacifist Patriot]

24. cognitive dissonance

That and they are batshit crazy

[blm]

28. Rand Republicans bought control of broadcast media in 80s and 90s to easily DUPE Christians into

siding with their objectives.

[Zookeeper]

22. Most of the Ayn Rand fetishists I've argued with, have been...

atheists. Libertarian philosophy only seems to mesh with the mega-churches doctrine that the well-off are the righteous, chosen people and everyone else is just lazy and weak.

[keopeli]

23. It's a short step across a deep canyone to get from Libertarian to Statist.

[surrealAmerican]

27. Okay, fess up, which one of you was this?

I have read this line of reasoning dozens of times here on DU.

[Paula Sims]

30. Ryan only cares about his god -- the almighty dollar and the Rethug party

[Paladin]

31. You Can't Be A Rand Groupie And A Decent Christian. It's That Simple. (n/t)

[LetTimmySmoke]

35. LOL @ Rand Groupie

What an appropriate term. Objectivism has turned into a cult.

[Odin2005]

32. LOL, I hope the Christofascists and Liberturdians destroy each other

[Uncle Joe]

36. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, kpete.

[harun]

37. His response is complete nonsense. How is that in any way relavent to the question asked.

I guess he went to Repuke obfuscation school.

[TomCADem]

38. ROFL! Every So Often Thery Notice The Sections On Caring For The Poor

The religious right loves to thump the Bible, but every so often, they read it, and are surprised that it does not support the rantings of right wing politicians that court them.

[boppers]

39. Luke 19. 11-27

Make profit or be killed, and lose all your wealth, because of Jeebus.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke+19&version=NIV

[RedCloud]

43. Where's that lightning bolt when you need it?