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highplainsdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-25-11 12:17 AM Original message |
Contours of Obama jobs package coming into focus |
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villager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-25-11 12:18 AM Response to Original message |
1. And no pre-compromising. He has to fucking dare the Repubbies to vote against it |
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totodeinhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-25-11 12:34 PM Response to Reply #1 |
62. It's a weak plan that includes more job killing so-called free trade. |
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Arctic Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-25-11 12:25 AM Response to Original message |
2. We'll see. |
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tawadi (631 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-25-11 12:26 AM Response to Original message |
3. " retraining help for the long-term unemployed |
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bhikkhu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-25-11 12:30 AM Response to Reply #3 |
5. There are always shortages for some skilled positions |
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trud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-25-11 05:27 AM Response to Reply #5 |
38. dream on |
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Chan790 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-25-11 06:46 AM Response to Reply #38 |
43. Most direct-service skilled-trades are not outsourcable. |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-25-11 07:55 AM Response to Reply #38 |
48. Unemployment in "computer software engineering" is about 2% |
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trud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-25-11 09:04 AM Response to Reply #48 |
54. jobs in software engineering? |
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bhikkhu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-25-11 09:57 AM Response to Reply #54 |
56. I think inability to relocate is a part of the problem |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-25-11 12:25 PM Response to Reply #54 |
59. If they're willing to relocate within the US, they'll be employed tomorrow. |
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fujiyama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-25-11 09:18 AM Response to Reply #48 |
55. Yeah, the big issue I see in the industry is the use of temp/contract work |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-25-11 12:28 PM Response to Reply #55 |
60. For work in the trades, call the local union. |
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fujiyama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-26-11 05:27 AM Response to Reply #60 |
70. Ouch didn't realize it was so high among skilled trades people |
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Angry Dragon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-25-11 12:28 AM Response to Original message |
4. Two problems |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-25-11 01:22 AM Response to Reply #4 |
16. I'm with you. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-25-11 01:40 AM Response to Reply #4 |
20. +1 Infrastructure bank is highly suspect as well, IMO. |
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Dragonfli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-25-11 02:33 AM Response to Reply #20 |
27. I don't uderstand what he means by that, what about it is suspect? I think I should start |
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Chan790 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-25-11 06:53 AM Response to Reply #27 |
44. It's a pool of money... |
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Honeycombe8 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-25-11 01:48 PM Response to Reply #44 |
65. Isn't that what was done in the first stimulus? And the states didn't use the $ that way? nt |
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Lasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-25-11 12:30 AM Response to Original message |
6. Bilateral free trade deals. |
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hay rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-25-11 12:49 AM Response to Reply #6 |
9. bilateral free trade... |
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Lasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-25-11 12:54 AM Response to Reply #9 |
10. I'm not sure even the Walmart jobs will be there in the future. |
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OKDem08 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-25-11 12:37 AM Response to Original message |
7. yes we can |
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HDPaulG (221 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-25-11 12:55 AM Response to Reply #7 |
11. No he can't |
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HDPaulG (221 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-25-11 12:42 AM Response to Original message |
8. Too little too late our weak conceder-in-chief...and have the thugs take SS and Medicare &Medicaid |
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emilyg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-25-11 01:01 AM Response to Reply #8 |
12. Speaking of Hillary |
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HDPaulG (221 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-25-11 01:10 AM Response to Reply #12 |
13. Hillary would be #1... |
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emilyg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-25-11 01:16 AM Response to Reply #13 |
15. Yes. Yes. Yes!!!!! |
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trud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-25-11 05:29 AM Response to Reply #13 |
39. Hillary |
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trud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-25-11 07:01 PM Response to Reply #13 |
67. HDPaulG |
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McCamy Taylor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-25-11 01:11 AM Response to Reply #8 |
14. Nope, it's right in time to burst the GOP's "Jobs and Bread" bubble. |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-25-11 01:28 AM Response to Reply #8 |
18. So does Biden - I wish Obama would turn him lose. nt |
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BOHICA12 (231 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-25-11 05:55 AM Response to Reply #18 |
42. You mean the guy who did the Budget deal? |
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AndyTiedye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-25-11 01:32 AM Response to Reply #8 |
19. They Woulda Done the Same to Hillary |
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quakerboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-25-11 02:12 AM Response to Reply #19 |
22. Bully pulpit is there for the president who wants to use it. |
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trud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-25-11 07:02 PM Response to Reply #22 |
68. quakerboy is right |
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iamthebandfanman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-25-11 08:39 AM Response to Reply #8 |
52. i wish i could live in your pretend world |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-25-11 01:25 AM Response to Original message |
17. I know that the Repukes would not allow a massive public works investment |
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Dragonfli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-25-11 02:25 AM Response to Reply #17 |
24. That is the only approach proven to work in the real world (it worked for the last depression) |
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totodeinhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-25-11 12:38 PM Response to Reply #17 |
63. Because we have the makings of another "compromise." Obama will compromise by |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-25-11 01:45 AM Response to Original message |
21. All ideas the DLC has been pushing. Check the website. |
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Dragonfli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-25-11 02:16 AM Response to Original message |
23. Well a little of it makes sense, I really like the retrofitting schools Idea, but why |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-25-11 02:26 AM Response to Original message |
25. Bilateral free trade deals. Yeah that's the ticket mr President |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-25-11 04:05 AM Response to Reply #25 |
30. that will creat jobs somewhere--just not here |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-25-11 04:35 AM Response to Reply #30 |
32. You said it. |
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Lunabelle (344 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-25-11 02:31 AM Response to Original message |
26. This may be his proposed package. |
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Dragonfli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-25-11 02:35 AM Response to Reply #26 |
28. You are right, this would be the pre-compromise starting point correct? |
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totodeinhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-25-11 12:40 PM Response to Reply #26 |
64. Exactly. The final deal might eliminate the progressive parts of the proposal such as infrastructure |
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on point (613 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-25-11 03:19 AM Response to Original message |
29. Weak underwhelming conventional nonsense. Not up to the task |
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seabeckind (406 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-25-11 04:24 AM Response to Original message |
31. Looks more like a gop plan |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-25-11 05:13 AM Response to Reply #31 |
35. DLC, not GOP. There's a huge difference between the two. |
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Chan790 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-25-11 06:58 AM Response to Reply #35 |
45. "As soon as I figure out exactly what the difference is..." |
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mazzarro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-25-11 04:38 AM Response to Original message |
33. Another tepid effort from Third Way/New Democrats/DLC policies |
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Itchinjim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-25-11 04:43 AM Response to Original message |
34. Time for the preemptive crapping on of all things Obama. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-25-11 05:16 AM Response to Reply #34 |
36. Anything to add about his plan? Anything at all? |
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Itchinjim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-25-11 07:20 AM Response to Reply #36 |
47. I'll wait until the plan is fully released before I light my hair on fire. |
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marasinghe (754 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-25-11 08:54 PM Response to Reply #47 |
69. how's that working out for you, so far? n/t |
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trud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-25-11 05:24 AM Response to Original message |
37. extending the SS tax cut is stupid |
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jerseyjack (369 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-25-11 05:49 AM Response to Original message |
40. NOTE: Still pushing for free trade deals. |
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BOHICA12 (231 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-25-11 05:53 AM Response to Original message |
41. Alice .... we've established that we can spend money quickly ... |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-25-11 06:59 AM Response to Reply #41 |
46. As Bubba might reply, it depends on what your definition of "new" is. |
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jimlup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-25-11 08:32 AM Response to Original message |
49. It's not strong enough and the Reptilians won't agree with it anyway so we should advocate |
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_ed_ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-25-11 08:35 AM Response to Original message |
50. This sounds like a Republican Plan |
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russspeakeasy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-25-11 08:36 AM Response to Original message |
51. O.K. Here's what we do...Advance the money to the companies |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-25-11 11:18 AM Response to Reply #51 |
57. that's the bipartisan way! |
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adam in oregon (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-25-11 08:53 AM Response to Original message |
53. Infrastructure bank |
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Maven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-25-11 11:59 AM Response to Original message |
58. Great Republican plan, Mr. Prez! |
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florida08 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-25-11 12:29 PM Response to Original message |
61. SSDD |
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JoeyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-25-11 04:58 PM Response to Original message |
66. Well if nothing else at least we're going to be skipping the whole |
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