Supreme Court Justice Sauder attacked by 4 young men while

[Pallas180]

jogging this morning. News flash on CNN. Beaten and taken to the hospital.

Certain talk shows have been bashing Sauder as "the liberal" and
one of Bush's nominees on C Span during his confirmation hearing said "we don;t want anymore judges like Justice Sauder".

Something tells me that the "you=know-who" crazies who view him as the obstacle, have attempted to "remove" Judge Sauder so that they can get their abortion laws through. I would rather think that then the more sinister thought that someone in government arranged it.

Banana republic.

[LittleApple81]

1. Oh, my God. I hope they did not kill or badly hurt him!!!! n/t

[Coventina]

2. This nation has lost its mind

[cosmicdot]

10. I'm with ya on that

... and, I fear things are too far gone to save the patient ...


and, I say that with all hope and aspiration for the opposite to be true ... but, having experienced things up close and personal ... I think we've lost it ...

[unblock]

3. david souter? bush's appointee?

[Tuttle]

4. Yeah -- the Bush who was elected

Herbert Walker Bush

not numbnuts the lesser

Tut-tut

[Skittles]

8. Souter is a good judge

much more centrist than conservative. I hope these freaks are caught and severely punished.

[0007]

20. I think it 'tis a bogus story

[displacedtexan]

69. The 't in 'tis is "It."

Beyond that, why do you think 'tis a bogus story?

[Ezlivin]

5. Fundamentalist Mindset

Been to a fundamentalist church lately? Then you're likely to experience the frenzied baying of those whipped into ecstasy by a silver-tongued preacher.

Abortion protesters started out meekly, but after a while their emotions overcame them and they began to take a much more active role. Eventually you have Xians killing others because it's their Christian duty to do so.

Those who attacked Justice Souter are probably of the same ilk: The mindless whipped into ecstatic frenzy over enacting God's vengence on a wayward judge.

Stay tuned, there's more from this bunch....

[Judi Lynn]

6. Do you mean David Souter?

I guess we should expect almost anything from now on until something huge happens to turn our country back to the right path.

You have to wonder just which group of right-wingers this was. There are so many I would suspect. We got a good long look at Republicans "kicking it up a notch" when they forced the Miami-Dade recount to close in 2000.

[PA Democrat]

7. Do you mean David Souter?

http://www.oyez.org/oyez/resource/legal_entity/105/

[mouse7]

9. Well, now we know where the prison torturers came from.

Any other stupid comments about the prison MPs being 1 in a million bad apples?

Any other stupid people claiming Americans aren't capable of shit like this?

[Exultant Democracy]

11. Link?

[Bozita]

13. I've been looking ... unsuccessfully

tried yahoo, google, CNN, AP, Reuters, AFP

nothing

[0007]

14. .....how can this story go without a link?

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

16. It can't.

[ihaveaquestion]

12. So much for "Christian" values of peace and non-violence!

[QC]

23. How do you know his attackers are Christians?

Do you have some kind of inside information?

[ihaveaquestion]

27. We're a "Christian" nation - or hadn't you heard?

[QC]

37. Ah, so you were just making an unsupported assertion.

That's what I thought.

I know that it's perfectly acceptable here at DU to make broad-brush statements about Christians, but we don't know yet who did this. It could have been just about anybody, including Neo-Nazis, Freepers, or robbers who have no idea who is on the Supreme Court.

[ihaveaquestion]

40. I wouldn't say "unsupported assertion"

I think it's a logical conclusion based on past history, but I guess you'd know better wouldn't you?

QC - You don't know me or my thought processes, so I'd appreciate you keeping YOUR assumptions about me to yourself.

[QC]

47. Well, actually I do know better in this case.

We know almost nothing at this point, so any assertion that someone or other did it for some particular reason is unsupported, by definition.

Would I be surprised if radical fundies did this? Not at all, particularly with Robertson urging people to pray that the "liberal" SCOTUS judges will be removed from the court. But there are many possibilities.

[Ripley]

49. Frankly I thought you were being sarcastic.

Since Smirk and Co. always say we are a good Christian nation that everybody envies for our goodness, blah blah blah. Yet there is no denying the very un-Christian like behaviors, mores and even laws that exist in this country.

[ihaveaquestion]

54. Semi-sarcastic actually. Can't seem to help myself.

I'm a real cynic and have a hard time giving people the benefit of the doubt. Living in NY reinforced this in me, but living in Florida is helping a bit. People here are really nice and helpful most of the time, so I have a hard time thinking bad thoughts about them.

[QC]

56. Then I apologize.

It's hard to pick up sarcasm online. And I have to admit to having become very sensitive to the way many people here attribute to all Christians the behavior of the fundamentalists. We're not all Falwellians and Dobsonites. In fact, my lefty political beliefs came directly from my evangelical upbringing. All that stuff about the rich and the poor, you know.

[ihaveaquestion]

62. Apology accepted. I apologize if I offended you.

I used quotes around Christians to try to indicate it didn't mean real believers/practitioners. Guess I failed. I used to be Christian myself and as an atheist/humanist still revere Jesus as a gifted philosopher and humanitarian - equivalent to Ghandi, King and others.

Friends?

[QC]

63. Friends!

Isn't this sweet! ;-)

[ihaveaquestion]

65. Love ya

Let's just take it out on the repukes! :yourock:

[QC]

67. They can always use a good thrashing.

Verbal, of course. I try very hard not to hate them for what they've done to this country, but it's tough sometimes.

[Ripley]

73. I'm so glad I could bring you two together!

I guess I'm such a sarcastic poster I tend to see the sarcasm in others.

:P

[QC]

83. Another beautiful DU moment!

:grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug:

[crossroads]

124. Makes me all warm and fuzzy inside...

<grin>

[ldf]

66. we aren't talking about real christians here

we are talking about people who are quick to call themselves christians while they kick the "nigger", or the "fag", or the "raghead" in the stomach.

it's not the real christians, it's those who have turned christianity into the bastardized mutation that we seem to love here in the good 'ol us of a.

you know, w's type of christianity.

and if you asked the muggers, i'd wager 100% that they would call themselves christians.

it is up to the real christians to take back their religion. but most of them are sitting on their asses, tittering about how awful it is. they need to be taking out nationwide ads denouncing all these acts that are just furthering god's will (wink wink), actions taking place in the name of their god.

and you can also be sure very few of the "good" christian preachers/ministers/pastors are denouncing it much from their pulpits. that may run contrary to what their "flock" thinks.

if they were, we would have heard of the groundswell of good people taking a stand against the horrors being unleashed by modern christianity.

[QC]

81. There are plenty of liberal Christians in this country.

In fact, fundamentalists are nowhere near a majority.

Their voice and influence are much greater than their numbers justify, and there are reasons for that.

One is the nature of the media. Look who they run to when they want the "Christian perspective" on any issue--Falwell. He's been on CNN more times than Wolf Blitzer, it seems. His views do not represent those of a majority of American Christians, and even a good many Southern Baptists don't like him, but every time you turn on the TV, there he is. He gives good soundbites, and he appeals to the Jerry Springerized media's desire to polarize every issue as much as possible. (That explains something else I hate--the way the media feel they need to bring in someone like Gary Bauer to provide "the other side" whenever they discuss gay issues. Like they would ask David Duke for his perspective on a civil rights story.)

Another reason why these people have so much influence is that they are really good at practical politics. They took over the GOP by starting on the county executive committees, school boards, etc. and working their way up. As one of them (can't remember who) said years ago, "How do you eat an elephant? One bite at a time." They will vote for a candidate who will give them 90% of what they want, rather than sit out the election over the other 10%, because they know they can get it later.

The majority of Americans are either Catholic or mainline Protestant, and when it came to the Iraq War, all of those churches were in opposition. Only the Southern Baptists endorsed the war. This should tell us something about how most American Christians actually think.

[pacifictiger]

97. speaking of liberal christians

Bill Moyers did a whole section on NOW last night about the number of "evangelical christians" who were present and supportive of the pro-choice women's rally in DC last weekend. It was fabulous! About time the word got out to counteract the fundies monopolization of the media waves.

[murielm99]

128. I was very impressed by their presence at the March, too.

If you want to know where some of the mainstream evangelical churches stand, visit this great site:

http://www.nyrcrc.org/

The Religious Coalition for Reproductive Choice was very much in evidence.

[CityDem]

90. Most likely some brothers mugged him

It is just as easy to assume this mugging was carried out by some African American muggers since they are responsible for most violent crimes in DC. Why not wait for some facts before making some broad based accusations?

[ithacan]

15. another piece of evidence that we're in a fascist mode

the brownshirts have been given their instructions by fox news and hate radio.

They can't win through democratic means, so they resort to their favorite methods of violence, hatred and destruction.

This is awful, but should not be surprising. It'll get a lot worse as it becomes clearer and clearer that Bush is going to lose.

These people will resort to anything, no matter how awful, if they think they're going to lose.

It's gonna get worse, not better.

[Tatiana]

17. Sometimes I wonder if we are on the brink of a civil war.

I truly feel ashamed to be an American, nowadays. Our entire nation and our government has been completely taken over by lawless, uncaring, malicious, and disgusting "evildoers." The executive, the legislative, and the judicial branches are controlled by these people. Wall Street, the media, and our corporations are controlled by these people. The harder we fight back, the more resolute they become.

The neo-cons will never back down. EVER. There is no compromise or reasoning with them. They have truly brought this country to a point where it's either us or them. I'm no alarmist, but it's becoming increasingly clear that this country is at war with itself and this is a war, for the sake of the Constitution, our liberties, and freedoms, we must win.

I hope and pray Justice Souter is OK and that he understands what exactly the evil he is facing as a Supreme Court Justice.

[TN al]

18. CNN just announced...

...that Souter's injuries are minor.

[KoKo]

24. Given CNN's sharp turn to the Right, I don't know if we can trust this....

Minor injuries but he suddenly dies of a heart attack from the stress? :scared:

[Bozita]

26. still NOTHING on the web

[Rockholm]

29. Minor? Shouldn't matter if they were minor or not!

Just the mere fact that he was attacked is an outrage! The conservative radio dittoehads that condone this should be charged with a crime and have their broadcast licenses revoked. This is total BS!!!

[Pallas180]

41. Agree. License revoked. Incitement on the right wing airwaves consistently

.

[NewJerseyDem]

95. It does matter

There is no reason to even assume that this was politically motivated. DC isn't exactly known for being very safe. And I'm sure it matters to David Souter if the injuries were minor.

[mvd]

That is a relief

I wouldn't put it past these people. They might have beaten those Dade county vote counters in the recount if given the chance. I feel this country has a divide just like Rome had at the start of the Renaissance - between the ignorant and the intellectuals/progressives. The progressives prevailed then, and I think they will now. There could be some very dark times before we prevail, though.

[QC]

19. Please fix your subject line

so that people will know who you're talking about.

[DBoon]

21. Souter = Matteotti?

Mussolini's main parliamentary opponent was mysterious murdered in 1924, opening the way for a full-on dictatorship:

http://www.bartleby.com/65/ma/Matteott.html

[MikeG]

22. Don't they have Secret Service protection?

[LiberalFighter]

109. And could Secret Service Protection be pulled...

for some other temporary duty? Leaving him unprotected?

[The Zanti Regent]

25. NO doubt in my mind Rove was behind this

the BFEE (Bush Family Evil Empire) NEVER forgave David Souter for defending the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. They thought he would be their rubber stamp, but time and again Souter has shown he will defend the Constitution and the Bill of Rights from Nazi Party attacks.

Make no mistake about it, the two major parties in America are now the Democratic Party and the Nazi Party.

[Lefty48197]

28. Possibly the NRA has whipped some crazies into a frenzy

just like they did Tim McVeigh.

[Crunchy Frog]

30. I believe that he's one of the justices

that Pat Robertson or Jerry Falwell or both were having their followers pray to God to kill them. Does anyone remember that incident?

Maybe these guys were just trying to help God along with his work, in line with the teachings of their religious leaders.

[Gemini Cat]

77. I don't remember if Souter was one-

-they were "praying" for. I do remember however, Ruth Bader-Ginsberg was one of their "prayer" targets. I think it was back in June '03.
That was around the same time that Robertson said something about wishing or wanting the state department to be nuked.

Robertson and Falwell are a nasty and treasonous group of people.

[worldgonekrazy]

91. Yes, they HATE Souter because H.W. appointed him

He was appointed after the conservatives were slammed for trying to appoint an uber-right wing judge. Souter was seen as a more moderate conservative, but once he got on the bench there was the little problem of the fact that, unlike the Scalia-Rehnquist-Thomas bloc, Souter actually has a conscious. He is now one of the more liberal judges and even dissented in the Bush v Gore decision that installed this junta. The neo-cons hate him because they think he betrayed them.

[NewJerseyDem]

96. He was suppose to be pretty right wing

Republicans at the time said he was a "stealth conservative" because he was so unknown but was thought to be very right wing. But, they thought the democrats would confirm him because unlike Robert Bork in 1987 there wasn't much of a record to attack. However, he turned out to be a stealth liberal. Even at the start of his career on the Supreme Court he was crucial in getting the comprimise for Planned Parenthood v. Casey so that Roe v. Wade wasn't completely overturned. He seems to be pretty much a solid vote with the center-left bloc along with Stevens, Breyer, and Ginsburg.

[daleo]

117. Thanks for that info, about the election vote

I was wondering about that aspect. Maybe this is a signal to them all, for November 2004. A figurative horse's head in the bed.

Sure, he could have just been the victim of a random crime, too. It would help to know where he was running at the time, time of day, etc. to get a good feel for that. Somehow, I can't seem him running in anything but a low crime area, but I could be wrong.

[worldgonekrazy]

92. Souter also dissented in Bush v Gore

He even had some VERY HARSH words that he delivered when the court gave its opinion. I'm sure you can find them somewhere if you look hard enough (because it wasn't in his official dissenting statement), but it was something to the effect that the Bush v. Gore decision was a travesty that would seriously undermine the legitimacy of the Supreme Court.

[alcuno]

31. 4 young men? Isn't there a DC chapter of freerepublic?

We're living in hell.

[MikeG]

35. I doubt it was freepers - it would involve exercise.

[Supormom]

113. LOL

That's a very good point. On a Friday night they wouldn't be able to keep up with a 65 year old justice! Not after a few six packs.

[Tatiana]

32. Link

http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/05/01/souter.assaulted/index.html

[drfemoe]

33. Links

http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/05/01/souter.assaulted

http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&edition=us&ie=ascii&q=Souter&scoring=d

[alarcojon]

34. Link

http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/05/01/souter.assaulted/index.html

U.S. Supreme Court Justice David Souter was assaulted by several men Friday night and taken to a hospital with minor injuries, according to a court spokeswoman.

The incident occurred while he was jogging at about 9 p.m. Friday, said Kathy Arberg, a court spokeswoman.

...snip...

He sustained "minor injuries" and is "feeling fine," Arberg said.

She could not characterize the nature or motivation for the attack only that several young men were involved.

She did not have any information if there had been any arrests.

[kskiska]

36. There have been rumors that Souter is gay

I wonder if someone was motivated by the rumor.

http://www.gaycitynews.com/gcn208/emailmike.html

[Sandpiper]

116. Well

He is 64 years old, never married, no children.

I'm not into profiling, but he does potentially fit the profile.

But since he has had girlfriends, and no verifiable male lover to speak of, They're probably just rumors.

No way could the guy get all the way to SCOTUS and not have that come out at some point.

[harrison]

38. Well, trying to be rational about this. Was he robbed? Did

they say anything to him? It said he received only minor injuries. Could it be that they were looking to rob him, and found he didn't have anything on him, so they roughed him up a bit?

[AlCzervik]

39. Not robbed

in the ap report it said that so that has me convonced something else is at play here.

[goclark]

42. Where were his security guards?

This man is a national treasure.
What can we do to see that he is safe?
I would not be surprised if they LIHOP.

I would not be surprised by ANYTHING with Bush in charge.

[Pallas180]

43. Kinda follows the plot of the Julia Roberts movie: Pelican Brief. n/t

.

[goclark]

45. Yep!

Alive and well - Rethugs in action.

[Pallas180]

46. Let's send Justice Sauter postcards (not letters that would be suspicious)

but postcards saying how sorry we are this has happened to him,
that his decency is desperately needed on the Court and to please take care and get bodyguards. Wishing him continued good health and safety.

[Ediacara]

53. According to the short blurb on Yahoo

He generally jogs alone. Not safe I know, but aparently not out of character.

[goclark]

80. He needs 5 armed guards!

[Algorem]

44. did they ask about "the frequency"?

[jackstraw45]

48. Cheney's Henchmen?

Wouldn't put it past him.....perhaps a little threat of further violence to ensure a vote his way on the Energy case?

Tin-foil cap time I know, but we're talking Dick Cheney here.

[Judi Lynn]

51. He probably learned he couldn't drag Souter off to go hunting with him

prior to his upcoming Court event.

We all know how submissive Daschle became after he was the target of an anthrax attack.

[Algorem]

52. I always wonder if Cheney has his own hit/terror squad myself.Every time

there's a terror attack that seems like it could help the interests of these dirtbags.

[FreakinDJ]

50. A demonstration of Bush's leadership skills

He is turning this country into Nazi Germany

For him it is just the nut does not fall to far from the tree

[Fleshdancer]

55. Flashback: On stage accident at Justice O'Connor ceremony

Jul 4, 2003 2:07 pm US/Eastern
PHILADELPHIA (AP) Supreme Court Justice Sandra Day O'Connor received the city's Liberty Medal, an award honoring individuals whose actions represent the founding principles of the United States, on Friday.

She also joined Gov. Ed Rendell, celebrities Richard Dreyfuss and Wynton Marsalis and others to help open the National Constitution Center at a ceremony that ended with an on-stage accident that sent the $185 million museum's president to the hospital.

http://kyw.com/Local%20News/local_story_185120002.html

Remember this??

[worldgonekrazy]

93. Yeah, it came quite close to harming O'Connor

When are the Supreme Court justices gonna step up and say they WILL NOT allow the Bush junta to intimidate them with violence?

[Lavalamp]

57. Probably NOT poltiical

more than likely they were looking for someone to beat/rob. I'm sure they had no idea who he was.

[Fleshdancer]

59. but he wasn't robbed and the injuries are reported as "minor"

I hope this wasn't political intimidation, but I do have some questions before I'm able to write this off as a completely random event.

[Lavalamp]

60. I'm sure if he had something very valuable

on him he would have been.

[Fleshdancer]

64. which is why robbing joggers is stupid

who jogs with their wallet? The most a robber would get is a walkman, maybe a wedding ring, and maybe a watch.

[Lavalamp]

70. I am sure

lots of people jog with their wallet...

In case you haven't noticed joggers are frequently targetted by criminals. Why? Generally because they are 1. Alone 2. In an area that doesn't have a ton of people (like a park) and 3. may be jogging at cooler times (i.e. at night). This is especially true in the south when we have 100+ degree temps.

[Fleshdancer]

84. jogging in your own neighborhood with a wallet? why?

like I said, I hope this has nothing to do with political intimidation, but it's okay to ask questions.

[Lavalamp]

100. Why not?

I have my wallet with me in my pocket 100% of the time I am outside rather I am going to get the mail or going for a walk. It's just something I do. I'm sure I'm not the only one.

[w4rma]

107. Wallets bounce around in one's jogging shorts.

That's why I don't take my wallet with me when I excercise.

[Judi Lynn]

74. Nothing would screw up a wallet more than getting really wet, right?

I don't know people who take their wallets out to jog or walk.

I think this could easily been meant as an act of intimidation. It probably wouldn't in most cases, but Souter is someone who is disliked for his lack of support for our right-wing lunatic fringe.

[keopeli]

75. How can you be sure? You sound very convinced.

[Lavalamp]

79. Simple

If they wanted to attack a supreme court justice for political ends I am sure they would have been willing to do more than rough him up. If you are nuts enough to attack a justice because you don't like his rulings then you are probably nuts enough to do a whole lot more.

Second, tons of people are target when they jog. Criminals usually pick joggers because they are easy targets. (See above 3 reasons) Talk to any cop in a major city and they will tell you this. Just because every time it happens it isn't on national news doesn't mean it didn't happen.

[jobycom]

85. Not really

Joggers who are attacked are usually women, and it's not usually for robbery.

As for it not being intimidation, we'll have to wait and see. There are many possibilities, ranging from a group of neocons recognizing him and trying to bully him a bit, to a foiled attempt to hurt him. Who knows, we're all guessing. It will come out.

[Lavalamp]

87. "are usually"

Or elderly males...

A type of crime not being committed against the "usual" victim or for the "usual" motive is irrelevant.

As for your speculation - it makes no sense. If the motive was political, what did they accomplish? Will this justice really be ruling differently now? What, does he fear them enough to rule as they desire? (even though they made no threat to that end)

Sorry, your line of reasoning doesn't logically work out. If they have problems with his rulings then they probably would have 1. Injured him to the point that he would have to resign 2. Kill him or 3. Do a HELL of a lot more intimidation than this to accomplish any real agenda.

If these were right wing nuts more than likely they would opt for 1 or 2.

[worldgonekrazy]

94. A murder would bring about an intense investigation

I believe this was a "warning" to Souter by the thugs in the junta.

[Lavalamp]

101. If you think

assaulting a supreme court justice won't bring about an intensive investigation then you obviously don't fully understand the significance of it.

The fact is the motivation was probably not political. Again, if you a right wing nut that has the balls to assault a justice, what is stopping you from going further? Hell, the right shoots/bombs abortion doctors. You don't think the same nuts would do the same on a bigger target?

If you are thinking bush is behind it I don't see why... It's not exactly as if the court hasn't helped them any. What did he do to displease them?

[Cocoa]

105. we'll see about this intensive investigation

nothing in the news reports so far about any investigation.

[Lavalamp]

108. Remember also

the news said it was young people that attacked him. More than likely teen thugs nothing more.

[Cocoa]

111. hired goons can be young

I didn't know there was an age requirement. :shrug:

[GiovanniC]

115. Yes, Just Like

Revealing the identity of a CIA agent, endangering countless CIA operatives' lives brought about an intensive investigation.

Just like sending anthrax to senators and members of the media brought about an intensive investigation.

Just like illegally diverting millions of dollars from Afghanistan to Iraq brought about an intensive investigation.

That's also why Ken Lay is in prison right now...

Let's face it... Republicans are willing to go to the ends of the earth to investigate things like blowjobs. But if a crime is committed that benefits them, you'll never hear about it again.

[jobycom]

82. No one robs joggers, because joggers don't carry anything.

This was an assault. WHo knows what for, though. For all we know, SOuter picked a fight, or splashed them in a puddle.

Then again, I keep thinking of the final scene in Bob Roberts.

[makhno]

131. I love a good conspiracy

But, frankly, jogging past sunset in SW DC, it's likely that the good Justice simply got jumped by a few restless thugs.

[loathesomeshrub]

58. Here's a link that shows how the right feels about him

I must say, after I googled him and found out about his non conservative rulings, I thought the same thing. Someone wants him injured and off the Supreme Ct. since none of the "liberal" judges seem like they're going to give this administration the opportunity to replace them legally. We need to email each one of them to urge them to be careful - any one of them could be in danger. Its sad, but true - this is what our country has come to!

This is from July 23rd 2003, but maybe things are getting to a head now?

Washington Post columnist David Broder has suggested that President Bush abandon his campaign promise to appoint someone to the Supreme Court in the mold of conservative Antonin Scalia. Broder didn’t like the way Scalia articulated his decisions against affirmative action and homosexual rights. That demonstrates Broder’s bias. He could have urged the President to avoid making the mistake that his father made in nominating a phony conservative like David Souter to the court. Souter was a somewhat mysterious choice at the time but there was never indication that he would vote as an extreme liberal.

Souter is so extreme that he voted with Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, a former ACLU counsel, and Justice Stevens to uphold an affirmative action program at the University of Michigan that gave someone 20 points just for being black. Souter wrote, "It is hard to see what is inappropriate in assigning some stated value to a relevant characteristic, whether it be reasoning ability, writing style, running speed, or minority race."

Back in 1990, however, when Souter was nominated, it was reported that he had a record of opposing government racial policies. While serving as New Hampshire Attorney General, the Washington Post said Souter fought federal regulations requiring the state to submit a racial breakdown of employees because it made the state "color conscious rather than color blind." But in the affirmative action case just decided, Souter ruled that the university could openly and blatantly discriminate against whites in favor of blacks and Hispanics.

There were numerous stories at the time of his nomination that Souter was a conservative. The Washington Times then reported that conservatives believed Souter’s elevation to the court "would help rehabilitate Mr. Bush’s tarnished image among some supporters on the right…" The paper reported that his selection was "likely to solidify the high court’s fragile conservative bloc." Human Events newspaper ran a front page story headlined, "Conservative Legal Experts Impressed with Souter’s Record." It said conservatives were hopeful that he would "significantly advance the conservative thrust of the High Court."


http://www.aim.org/publications/media_monitor/2003/07/23.html

[Judi Lynn]

61. Looks as if he's a natural magnet for right-wing hatred.

They are obligated to loathe him for his moderation.

[raysr]

68. It was the fundies

http://www.counterpunch.org/madsen04222003.html

[loathesomeshrub]

71. Bush - Mirror image of Bin Laden n/t

[Judi Lynn]

86. Good article there!

It was also good to be reminded of _Bush's total of 152 capital punishment executions under his belt as the Texas governor, before he ever made our right-wing proud by stealing the White House.

[murielm99]

127. Holy cr*p!!!

The pope thinks it was LIHOP????

Will wonders never cease!

[loathesomeshrub]

72. Especially since they feel that they were cheated n/t

[West Coast Democrat]

76. Please fix the spelling of his name

Souter

[DaveSZ]

78. I bet it was the Fundies too

They need to install some more Fundies on the court in order to turn America into a theocracy (their ultimate goal).

[bluedeminredstate]

88. My Dad,

generally a repug (not in 2004, though), lives in NH and worked with Justice Souter. He's not one to get effusive, but he's always said Justice Souter is one of the finest legal minds he's ever come across and someone with a very high standard of integrity, honesty
and decency.
I admire the work he's done on the SC- he's never seemed to feel obligated to the party that appointed him (*cough* Scalia, *cough* *Thomas*).
If that has something to do with this, I can't imagine it will have an affect on any decision he'll make on the cases before him - the energy meetings, the US citizens without cousel, Guantanamo - that will probably fall upon party lines.

[DaveSZ]

89. I agree

Souter is one of the good guys along with John Paul Stevens.

[Tuttle]

99. While you're coughing, don't forget Rhenquist

The very model of an ideologue!

Tut-tut

[Pale_Rider]

98. Just another example of the Bush and Repug's ...

... being 'uniters'. Big darkness soon to come.

[goforit]

102. Hey, if Cheney and Delay want a Civil War, should there be one?

Hmmmm.....this is the shot heard around the WORLD!!!!

How long are the Dems and Greens and Socialist and sane republicans
gonna stand for this?

This is a TRAVESTY!!!!!

[Piperay]

103. I hope he is really

careful from now on, this is more than suspicious. The chimp regime will stop at nothing to take care of those they feel stand in their way, they are certainly capable of murder.

[bain_sidhe]

104. Not remove him. Just let him know

"we can get to you if we want to."

IF, of course, it's actually a "message" at all, and not just random violence - which I consider entirely possible. But, as some above have said, anything life threatening would be VIGOROUSLY investigated. IF this was a message, it was just a "heads up" - watch what you say, watch what you do... (and, more importantly, watch how you vote).

[Snellius]

106. Freepers are speculating he was "cruising" in the park at night

13 posted on 05/01/2004 11:33:24 AM PDT by Sir_Ed
< Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies >

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

To: counterpunch

Let's think about this. Souter is a bachelor. Lives alone. Rumors abound that he is , let's say, not in the mainstream.He's "jogging", at night, maybe in a park, when some "yuths" assault him. He wasn't robbed.

Uhhhh...

14 posted on 05/01/2004 11:33:55 AM PDT by BabaOreally
< Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies >

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

To: Sir_Ed
You know. . .maybe you are onto something. . .

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1127929/posts

[dolo amber]

114. Big shock there...

He was probably wearing some of those sexy little running shorts too...clearly he was 'asking for it'....:eyes:

</sarcasm>

[PartyPooper]

130. Well, I have to wonder what was he doing jogging at 9 pm.

I am a gay man myself. And, I have no axe to grind here. Nor, am I accusing Mr. Souter of anything.

But, Mr. Souter is in his sixties. He has lots of experience. And, I have to wonder, why would he be jogging after dark? Certainly, he knows the dangers of running so late.

Whether gay / straight...male / female...this is a truly dangerous activity...jogging after dark.

This story baffles me.

:think:

[T Bone]

129. Unlike Freepers he has a JOB that takes up most of his day

Jogging or walking at night is the only time he can do it, you morans.

[SayitAintSo]

110. Anybody know what the Freepers are saying about this ?

or do we really want to know ....

[ashling]

112. do you have a link for this?

[Judi Lynn]

118. Links are offered in posts #32, 33, 34. n/t

[Algorem]

119. cbs evening news tonight did short report on Souter and went right into

short report on Methodist gay ruling.hinting?or not whatever i don't care.just happened to tape it and the way they used the screen behind the spokesmodel was interesting.

[John_H]

120. That'll teach him to double cross the BFEE

[MurrayDelph]

121. They left off the best part of the story (joke)

When telling the story they didn't mention how
Justice Antonin Scalia saved his life:

Just when it looked like the thugs might kill him, out of the
shadows, Scalia stepped out, looked the whole thing over, and
said "He's had enough"


(This was a joke that Shecky Greene originally told about Frank Sinatra)

[Merlin]

122. Woahhhh! Someone who remembers Shecky Greene!

Bet I know the color of your hair.

[crossroads]

125. Thats a funny joke! LOL

[Merlin]

123. You know what the right wingers say: "A liberal is just a conservative who

...hasn't been mugged yet."

Let's hope that just ain't so!

[crossroads]

126. You 're on a roll tonight.

Thanks for the laugh. It gets intense (at times) around here.