CBS News Exclusive: Bush Retains Personal Attorney In Plame Probe

[Syrinx]

On now.

On edit, add link, thanks to maddezmom!

This story says bush has merely consulted not retained. Still it's not that big a distinction in my mind at least.

edit again: MSNBC just said Bush has put a lawyer on "stand-by." That sounds like the same as "on retainer" to me.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=544&ncid=718&e=3&u=/ap/20040602/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush_cia_leak

[Not Me]

1. He is going down........

Hee hee hee!

[ChompySnack]

139. This lawyer isn't for Plame

It's for the Chalabi leak!!!!!

Why else would he have waited so long?

[uncle ray]

161. no no NO! you got it all wrong.

you're supposed to say Bush* is TOAST!


geez.

[maddezmom]

178. perhaps not bush but someone very close to him

;)

[BlueEyedSon]

2. Now why would someone with no culpability hire a lawyer?

[R3dD0g]

7. During Whitewater, every conservative blowhard

said 'Why hire lawyers? Why not just tell the truth?'

[central scrutinizer]

78. he's already got the White House counsel

but Albert Gonzales has his own little problems - like writing memos advising * to ignore the Geneva Convention forbidding torture. Plus, he may also be involved in this and is remembering the old maxim - a lawyer who defends himself has a fool for a client.

[Jacobin]

155. No attorney client privilege with WH lawyer

SCOTUS decided that during Clinton attempted coup. Theory is that since the government pays the lawyer, then there is no privilege to te president who talks to him.

Bad legal precedent for a lot of reasons, but now he's gotta have a private lawyer.

Lovin every minute of it.

[Just Me]

158. That's only true IF there is criminal activity involved,...

,...I oughta' know,...I was a general counsel, once upon a time. And, I was the one who ended up consulting an ethics attorney.

Bush's WH counsel better be doing some consulting, as well. He's up to his ass in actually participating in criminal conduct (e.g. "how to creatively violate the Geneva Convention"). He may end up being one of the first to fall with his memo having been smeared all over the place.

[Tellurian]

193. Yes, I thought of that too...

Also if Bush gets dropped, all the new Ex Orders can be used against them..Geeze, the next Prez is gonna be mighty powerful.. eh?

[tlcandie]

229. Former CIA analyst Ray McGovern says that this is the reason he

believes for the retaining of the lawyer! Click on the Democracy NOW! link to download the Mp3 and listen. Also includes Tenent and Chalabi. McGovern states he is more afraid now than at any other time he can recall due to believing this admin will do something legally to remain in office come November and that the opening salvo was shot with Asscroft's recent summer terrorist attack possible!

http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=04/06/03/1626202

[homelandpunk]

153. from CBSnews:

>>The question now, says Cohen, is whether there was some event or development in the investigation that prompted the President, now, to put out feelers like this to the legal community. This investigation, remember, has been going on for months.

This doesn't necessarily mean the President is in legal trouble or that he's suddenly become the focus or the target of this investigation. I think it does mean that President Bush expects to play a larger role in this investigation going forward. >>

Yeah, cuz Bush JUST decided "Hey! I want to play a larger role in this investigation!" Kee-riced. Cheney better get that promised "summer of terror" into full operational mode.

[maddezmom]

165. updated link at AP: Democrats seized on the news to criticize the presiden

~snip~
It speaks for itself that the president initially claimed he wanted to get to the bottom of this, but now he's suddenly retained a lawyer," said Jano Cabrera, spokesman for the Democratic National Committee (news - web sites). "Bush shouldn't drag the country through grand juries and legal maneuvering. President Bush should come forward with what he knows and come clean with the American people."
~snip~
Bush expressed doubt last year that the leaker would be found.

"You tell me: how many sources have you had that's leaked information, that you've exposed or had been exposed? Probably none," Bush said last October.

"I don't know if we're going to find out the senior administration official," Bush said then. "I don't have any idea. I'd like to. I want to know the truth."

But Bush said, "This is a large administration and there's a lot of senior officials."


http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=544&ncid=693&e=1&u=/ap/20040603/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush_cia_leak

[leesa]

196. "I know nothink!" Sargeant Schultz act

I want to see this bastard in an orange jumpsuit in Gitmo.

[IndianaGreen]

214. Thanks to Ken Starr, Bush needs a private lawyer to have attorney-client

Thanks to Ken Starr, Bush needs a private lawyer to have attorney-client privilege. Even corporate executives have to retain their own attorneys rather than depend on the corporate lawyers if they want to have attorney-client privilege.

We got to thank Ken Starr for this erosion in our liberties.

I suspect that Bush knows who the leaker his, someone whose initials are KR, and that he was given the info about Valerie Plame from someone with access to CIA information. Shall we say Dick Cheney and Scooter Libby?

Somebody is going to jail!

[NNN0LHI]

3. Just caught it. Thanks for the tip. DU is the best. No doubt n/t

[Langis]

4. Holy shit

I was just thinking about this earlier

[bear425]

179. Me too!

I was thinking earlier today about the leak and what has been done - or not done about it. Glad to know that there is an ongoing investigation.

[Lisa]

5. the Shrub lawyers up!

Oh, goody.


p.s. please, please, let it be Johnny C. "If he didn't out Plame/You cannot flame!"

[stevedeshazer]

45. *splork*

Oh my God!

Cleaning off my screen now.... :)

[Lisa]

125. sorry! I guess I owe you a new monitor

But you have to admit, between Bush's malapropisms and Cochrane's rhyming, it would be a pretty good show!

[stevedeshazer]

138. It was well worth it

The image of Johnny and Georgie together cracks me up big time.

[Catfight]

F'n about time this starts to blow wide open. Bush is so guilty!

He was guilty when he had to testify with Chenney by his side to keep his lies in check and he's guilty about this! He's own father said it's TREASON to oust a CIA operative! And he has the nerve to call Michael Moore a slimeball....Bush jr. is a flunky scumbag.

[PaDUer]

17. Pops will deny

saying that...another liar!

[central scrutinizer]

58. this is great

this gets this back into the news along with the Halliburton-Cheney e-mails, the Chalabi-Iran shit, and the Enron price-fixing. Now if we can just churn up the Medi-gate bribery and extortion scandal a little, add a pinch of torture coverup, and wait until it is doubled in bulk, we can bake a nice loaf of whup-ass.

[Tight_rope]

205. ROTFLMAO!

This is like Christmas. All kinds of gifts under the tree. Just gotta tear through the wrapping to get to the goodies. Sometimes the wrappings are hard to tear open. But a good pair of scissors will always to the trick.
:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

[callous taoboy]

231. Cleaning up coffee now- Thanks, Central!

I'll take two loaves of whup-ass, and a litre of Cabernet Resignation.

[calimary]

109. All Roads Lead To Rome.

In this case, it all goes straight to the top, either actively or passively. If he did not actually, specifically, give directives and discuss or receive information (detailed or not), he set the tone for all of this. His reckless, damn-the-torpedoes, my-way-or-the-highway attitude that made clear to everyone around him "I want this and I'm gonna have it, by hook or by crook, and YOU'RE gonna get it for me. Whatever it takes" had permeated this entire regime. HE SET THE TONE AND DETERMINED THE AGENDA. Whoever is around him clearly knew what he was about and what he wanted and expected, the spoiled little dauphin that he is.

FURTHERMORE (and this MUST be remembered, and mentioned to anybody who says there's no difference between bush and Kerry), it's the people around him - MAINLY BECAUSE HE BROUGHT THEM IN WITH HIM. They wouldn't be working in the White House, the Old Executive Office Building, the Pentagon, the Justice Department, Foggy Bottom, or any of the cabinet offices, IF HE HAD NOT APPOINTED THEM OR OTHERWISE INSTALLED THEM THERE. If people want to blather away about how it's not him, it's the people around him who are causing all the trouble, it must be pointed out that those very same people around him are there BECAUSE HE BROUGHT THEM IN, AND PUT THEM THERE. They're all there BECAUSE OF HIM.

Just ask yourself, or ask any whiner who tries to foist off the blame on some lower-level henchman, would President Gore have chosen rummy for a Defense Secretary? Or a wolfowitz for Deputy Defense Secretary? Or a dick cheney as VP? Would dougie feith, scooter libby, richard luti, richard armitage, contradicta, richard perle or any of the rest of these bastards been enlisted for a Gore Administration?

Oh yeah, and speaking of churning up something... DON'T forget THIS:

PLEASE NOTE MY SIG LINE – TO CALL YOUR REPS, TOLL FREE!!!

OR, TRY (877) – 762 – 8762. It’ll get you there, too! (Thank you, DUer redqueen!)


Please note, here, The World's Greatest Lists of Media Contacts – updated May 5, 2004– in the following thread:

LINK:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=1533796#


IF THEY THINK WE DON’T CARE, THEY WON’T, EITHER!


Methinks this may come in handy, if we're to push our reps and the media to look into this deeply and seriously, and do what is necessary.

[anarchy1999]

163. So nice to see you here, Calimary and with the list!

It is time to ring the phones and faxes off of the wall. Not now, but right now!! Yesterday would have been good.

Get MoveOn and TrueMajority involved. Get Dennis Kucinich. We have no time left. We can't afford to wait for November. Maybe that should be the mantra..... we can't afford to wait to try criminals for high crimes and treason. The time is NOW!

[yardwork]

186. Thank you, as ever, Calimary!

You are absolutely right and the point needs to be repeated over and over again. We don't elect one person to the presidency - we elect an entire administration, plus Supreme Court appointees.

[crossroads]

189. Thanks for the links!

This needs to be pushed!
:kick:

[Catfight]

6. F'n about time this starts to blow wide open. Bush is so guilty!

He was guilty when he had to testify with Chenney by his side to keep his lies in check and he's guilty about this! He's own father said it's TREASON to oust a CIA operative! And he has the nerve to call Michael Moore a slimeball....Bush jr. is a flunky scumbag.

[Kadie]

8. Wow.

Can't wait til the news comes on out here.

[maddezmom]

9. holy shit....details??

don't get CBS...:(

[Syrinx]

18. that's the gist of it, I'm looking for link

[maddezmom]

89. here's a link...maybe you can edit your post to add

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=544&ncid=718&e=3&u=/ap/20040602/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush_cia_leak

[FlashHarry]

10. CBS is on a roll.

Abu Ghraib. Enron tapes. Now this.

[maddezmom]

14. details?

please :)

[PassingFair]

213. I hope that the recent changing of the guard at CBS

does not staunch the flow of real stories. Anyone know if the shake-up spells trouble, or truth?

http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/worldbiz/archives/2004/06/03/2003158089

[mike1963]

11. Ruh roh...Chimpy, you'll be just FABulous in an orange jumpsuit!

:D

[Just Me]

12. Who's running around with their hair on fire, now?!?!?!

Do you suppose he's hiring private counsel because his general counsel may have knowledge about the leak?

Ewwwww, I just get all goose-bumpy and stuff when I imagine the neocon house of glass getting BUSTED!!!!

:bounce:

[Sinistrous]

146. President's conversations with the General Counsel are not privileged.

What ever is going down, * wants it kept close as possible.

[Just Me]

160. They most certainly are,...UNLESS they involve criminal activity. n/t

[Sinistrous]

166. I beg to differ:

I read the decision of the Eighth Circuit Court as applying to any government employee, including the president.

http://www.fed-soc.org/Publications/practicegroupnewsletters/professionalresponsibility/pp020105.htm


Who Does the Government Lawyer Represent?

The Federalist Society’s 1997 National Lawyers Convention

Professional Responsibility

Breakout Session

Thursday, October 16, 1997

At this year's National Lawyers Convention, the Professional Responsibility Group hosted a lively discussion on th question, "Who does the government lawyer represent?". The first panelist, the Honorable C. Boyden Gray, former White House Counsel under President Bush, discussed In re Grand Jury Subpoena Duces Tecum, 112 F.3d 910 (8th Cir.), cert. denied, 117 S. Ct. 2482 (1997), in which the Eighth Circuit held that the confidentiality of Mrs. Clinton's communications with government lawyers concerning the Whitewater investigation was not protected by the attorney-client privilege. The government lawyers' only client is the federal agency that they represent, including persons acting in their official capacity with respect to that agency. In In re Grand Jury, the government lawyers' discussions with Mrs. Clinton regarding nonofficial conduct constituted discussions with a person other than the government lawyers' "client," and thus, the discussions were not privileged.

Mr. Gray suggested that government officials should retain private lawyers for private matters and government lawyers for official matters. He stated that the taxpayer should not be forced to pay for a government lawyer who provides legal services to a government official on a private matter.

Mr. Gray explained that investigations of an official's conduct that took place prior to that official entered office are generally private matters and should be handled by a private lawyer. When a government official is being investigated on a matter that encompasses both private and official conduct, Mr. Gray opined that government lawyers may provide supervisory services, but should require private lawyers to render services for those matters that are more private than official in nature.

[Just Me]

180. Thanks. That was AFTER my service as "general counsel". n/t

[yardwork]

187. My impression is that the Repubs wiped out a lot of executive privilege

in their orgy of Clinton penis bashing. Now their achievements will come back to haunt them.

[Sinistrous]

192. ??? Huh ??? n/t

You just blew by me with that one.

[Catfight]

13. is it Johnny Cochrane? LOL

[Lisa]

20. I hope so too!

I would pay to see that, I really would.

[JM]

47. If the brain don't fit, you must acquit (n/t)

[callous taoboy]

233. That's outrageous, egregious...Preposterous

Besides that, who told you to put the balm on? Did I tell you to put the balm on? I didn't tell you to put the balm on!

[happynewyear]

15. please I beg of you, fill me in on the Plame thing!!!

Thanks for any help!!!

baldearg :D

[Disturbed]

22. CIA

They are not going to let this one slide down the memory hole.

Where does that buck stop?

[Barrett808]

Valerie Plame is the wife of Ambassador Joe Wilson

She was outed as a CIA agent by * in retaliation for Wilson's editorial in the New York Times, "What I didn't find in Niger."

Ironically, she was working undercover to curtail proliferation of WMD. Now her cover is blown.

[Lorien]

34. Joe Wilson's wife was secretly a CIA agent

Valarie Plame, who worked on classified WMD surveillance overseas. Because Wilson didn't agree with Bush's* lies about Iraq's WMDs, the WH retaliated against him by "outing" his wife to conservative journalist Bob Novak. This outing not only endangered many CIA operations and Plame's life, but it is also an act of treason against the US.

[NNN0LHI]

114. She wasn't just a CIA agent. She was a NOC

http://foi.missouri.edu/iipa/nocnoc.html

NOC, NOC. Who's There? A Special Kind of Agent

The unmasking of Valerie Plame sheds light on the shadowy world of NOCs, spies with nonofficial cover

<snip>Some Bush partisans have suggested that the outing of Plame is no big deal, that she was "just an analyst" or maybe, as a G.O.P. Congressman told CNN, "a glorified secretary." But the facts tell otherwise. Plame was, for starters, a former NOC — that is, a spy with nonofficial cover who worked overseas as a private individual with no apparent connection to the U.S. government. NOCs are among the government's most closely guarded secrets, because they often work for real or fictive private companies overseas and are set loose to spy solo. NOCs are harder to train, more expensive to place and can remain undercover longer than conventional spooks. They can also go places and see people whom those under official cover cannot. They are in some ways the most vulnerable of all clandestine officers, since they have no claim to diplomatic immunity if they get caught.

Plame worked as a spy internationally in more than one role. Fred Rustmann, a former CIA official who put in 24 years as a spymaster and was Plame's boss for a few years, says Plame worked under official cover in Europe in the early 1990s — say, as a U.S. embassy attache — before switching to nonofficial cover a few years later. Mostly Plame posed as a business analyst or a student in what Rustmann describes as a "nice European city." Plame was never a so-called deep-cover NOC, he said, meaning the agency did not create a complex cover story about her education, background, job, personal life and even hobbies and habits that would stand up to intense scrutiny by foreign governments. "{NOCs} are on corporate rolls, and if anybody calls the corporation, the secretary says, 'Yeah, he works for us,'" says Rustmann. "The degree of backstopping to a NOC's cover is a very good indication of how deep that cover really is."

For decades, a varying number of NOCs (the exact figure is classified) have been installed abroad in big multinational corporations, small companies or bogus academic posts. The more genteel rules of traditional espionage do not apply to NOCs. When the Soviets caught a diplomat doing spy work during the cold war, they roughed him up a little and sent him home. Unmasked NOCs, on the other hand, have met with much harsher fates: CIA officer Hugh Redmond was caught in Shanghai in 1951 posing as an employee of a British import-export company and spent 19 years in a Chinese prison before dying there. In early 1995 the French rolled up five CIA officers, including a woman who had been working as a NOC under business cover for about five years. Although the NOC caught in Paris in 1995 was simply sent home, "it might not have been so easy in an Arab country," says a former CIA official familiar with the matter. "{NOCs} have no diplomatic status, so they can end up in slammers."

A NOC's ability to run silent and deep has led Ohio Republican Mike DeWine, a member of the Senate Intelligence Committee, to press the CIA to invest more heavily in NOC officers, adding that the CIA's traditional spies, posing as diplomats and trained to infiltrate governments, are not well positioned to penetrate stateless gangs of terrorists who don't go to embassy parties. DeWine called for a larger NOC program in a report issued by Congress in July — and many ex-spooks were surprised when the CIA cleared the document for public consumption. But the agency has resisted such efforts before, arguing that NOCs are too expensive and too dangerous to expand the program by much.

more

[Just Me]

135. Thanks for the info, NNN0LHI.

Very interesting stuff, there. Yes, indeedy.

[Tellurian]

200. Yes, Danke...nt

[koopie57]

16. I thought today was Wednesday, but ...

you mean they didn't wait with this until Friday?

[MaineDem]

59. But remember he's going to Europe

The news will be filled with his meetings with the Pope, Berlesconi (sp?) and the Normandy anniversary.

[calimary]

145. EXCELLENT! Every time he goes overseas, all hell breaks loose

back home. THIS scandal originally broke when he was in Africa with laura and one of the twins, watching elephants - uh - er - um - mating.

Good-good-good-good-good-good-good!

[Jacobin]

156. But, they'll be lovin' him in Yurp!!

heh heh heh.

Can't wait to see the protests.

[Imperialism Inc.]

19. I was wondering when this would break open a bit.

Buh bye traitor.

[prodigal_green]

21. TREASON during a time of war

is punishible by death.

"ooh, please don't kill me" we can mock (like he did when executing that woman whose name escapes me at the moment) when they strap him to the table.

[didntvote4shrub]

32. Karla Faye Tucker, wasn't it?

[Sub Atomic]

92. yes. it was karla faye tucker.

[Mz Pip]

23. Executive privilege

Just wait, that's what he'll do, claim executive privilege. I'd put money on it.

MzPip
:dem:

[Justitia]

28. didn't work for Nixon heh, heh -eom

[wryter2000]

57. You're right, Lady Texan

And here's how this went down. The case got all the way to the Supreme Court. US v. Nixon. The court ruled that there was such a thing as executive privilege but that the criminal case (the Watergate break-in) took precedence over executive privilege.

It would be tres interesting if we went the same route on that. 1) He doesn't have enough stooges on the Court to save him from this, imho. 2) it would be really hard to rule that this case was substantially different. In fact, outing a CIA agent is way more important than breaking into party headquarters.

IMHO, if he tries to stonewall this, he's history. I think he's history, anyway, but that would be the last 12 nails in the coffin.

On edit: wouldn't it be fun to watch Scalia try to spin this one for *?

[Justitia]

90. Yup, but I don't think Fat Tony would fall for him.

Unfortunately, I really don't think our culprit is specifically Bush.
My gut says this came out of Cheney's office.
Watch for others to "lawyer up".
Having Bush do it first (starting at the top, working down) will make the dirty-deeds doer less obvious.
Just a wild-ass guess....

[wryter2000]

97. Fat Tony -- LOL eom

eom

[The Magistrate]

24. This Promises Some Big Damned Fun, Sir!

"Treason never prospers, what's the reason? Why, when it prospers, Sir, none dare call it Treason!"

"LET'S GO GET THOSE BUSH BASTARDS!"

[JohnLocke]

195. Picture this, judge!

Democratic Underground on November 3rd. That will be fun!

[Beetwasher]

211. This Is Certainly Good News, Sir!

Although I think it might have to take a number and get in line! There sure does seem to be a plethora of severe cases of treason abound!

[Mandate My Ass]

25. Dayyummm

I thought they had their sights set on Cheney on this one. Goin' up to the top floor, eh?

Seriously, as much as the Chimp needs to take a fall, this one had Dick's fingerprints all over it. C'est la vie. :shrug:

[Justitia]

26. Mmmmm....guilty???? Impeach the whole lot! -eom

[slinkerwink]

27. is the attorney to represent bush or to investigate the plame affair?

[htuttle]

29. He's on retainer to represent Bush...

...in case they want to question him.

[crossroads]

77. Will he sit on Cheney's lap when questioned?

I don't think he would be able to keep the lies straight if he didn't.
:eyes: :kick:

[Justitia]

30. it is my understanding it is for BUSH

[happynewyear]

35. believe me, by this time this is finally overwith * will need hundreds!

The more lawyers the merrier!

Buh bye *! Cannot say I'll miss you one tiny little bit. :P

[gristy]

31. He is representing bush

A friggin sitting pResident, hiring a friggin lawyer. Sweet.

[Paragon]

33. They gave the lawyer's name at the beginning...

...but I missed it. Anyone?

[leftchick]

37. last name was Sharpe?

or Shark? (lol, how appropriate!) I am not sure! I am looking for a link ...

[Paragon]

39. Drudge completely skunked on this one

:7 I love it!

Have any other news outlets picked it up yet?

[displacedtexan]

84. Peter Jennings got word (through his ear piece)

halfway into his broadcast.

The guy's name is Jim Sharp (Sharpe?).

[grytpype]

36. Katy bar the door!

Yeah! Oh, baby. Whoo!

[mandyky]

38. Wow! As soon as I pick

my jaw off the floor, I will have major thinking to do about this one. Dub, dub, dub, Ft. Leavenworth be your new home!

[wtmusic]

40. I would LOVE to see Joe Wilson bring shrub down

finally a little justice in this freakin' country

[leftchick]

44. I agree...

That would be sweet indeed! :)

[0007]

151. Joe Wilson bring junior down!! Even after junior is run out of office

these goodies will come to haunt the little prick.

[crossroads]

190. Finally!

:kick:

[SaintLouisBlues]

41. Here's how the CBS reporter ended the piece:

Bush's involvement "has now elevated this investigation to the highest levels".

Even if Shrub isn't implicated himself, the stink from this treasonous act is going to be all over him.

[wtmusic]

49. Will Rove take the fall, or will he rat?

Either way * loses

[DemBones DemBones]

42. Next up on CBS tonight: the Enron tapes!

Damn, they're HOT!

Wish Letterman wasn't on vacation.

[Tellurian]

43. I Vote Nicolson for the Indy Prossie!!!

Ohhhh! That booming voice...

as Bush cringes on the stand-
Bush pleading incoherently,

"Daddy.... Save Me"


Daddy Bush, responding...

"I can't son, I'm in the same fix.
Better call Karl or better...Mom~"

[calimary]

147. I vote Elliot Spitzer! The NEXT Attorney General of the United States,

unless that goes to John Edwards, with Wesley Clark as Vice President...

I want somebody like Spitzer or some other little annoying, yapping dog that won't loosen his jaws off those trouser cuffs. Heh-heh-heh.

Ever since I first saw this story (THANK YOU, DU!) this song's been running through my mind, and I wish I knew whodunnit - na-na-na-na, na-na-na-na, Hey-Hey-Hey, Goo-ooood BYE!!!!!!!!!! I'll probably be humming that to myself for the rest of the evening. Heh-heh-heh...

And hey, this is WEDNESDAY. Still two days before the usual "Friday night news dump."

[starroute]

222. Na Na Hey Hey (Kiss Him Goodbye)

http://home.att.net/~bubblegumusic/songnanahey.htm

By: Steam
(Gary DeCarlo, Dale Frashuer and Paul Leka)
1969

Na na na na, na na na na, hey hey hey, goodbye
He'll never love you, the way that I love you
'Cause if he did, no no, he wouldn't make you cry
He might be thrillin' baby but a-my love (my love, my love)
So dog-gone willin'
So kiss him (I wanna see you kiss him, wanna see you kiss him)
Go on and kiss him goodbye

Na na na na, hey hey-hey, goodbye
Na na na na, na na na na, hey hey hey, goodbye
Listen to me now
He's never near you to comfort and cheer you
When all those sad tears are fallin' baby from your eyes
He might be thrillin' baby but a-my love (my love, my love)
So dog-gone willin'
So kiss him (I wanna see you kiss him. I wanna see you kiss him)
Go on and kiss him goodbye

Na-na na-na-na na na na na na na, hey hey hey, goodbye
Hey hey-hey, goodbye
Na na na na, na na na na, hey hey hey, goodbye
Na na na na, na na na na, hey hey hey, goodbye
Na na na na, na na na na, hey hey hey, goodbye

[Virginian]

206. Who plays Shrub?

Who else do you cast in the movie?

[Tellurian]

217. Shrub?

Dennis Miller..

He's been kissing up for so long...
if it talks like a shrub..

Miller has been whoring for so long
he'd think it a privilege..

[DemBones DemBones]

46. And now -- Chalabi's spying for Iran.

GO CBS!!!

[Catfight]

53. Did Bush piss off the CEO of CBS? Power of the Press is so

interesting. I can't believe they are actually moving with these stories against the God child of Jesus. Bush doesn't need a lawyer, God will tell him what to say. Can his religious fanatics not see through his pseudo faith? He's the Jim Jones of the Right.

[NashVegas]

66. Can You Say "Janet's Nipple?"

:)

[Just Me]

96. Oh gawd,...too freakin' funny!!!! n/t

[leesa]

201. Funny. It's going to have to be one giant-sized nipple to cover this!

[Wind Dancer]

67. LOL!

Great post!

[wryter2000]

73. CBS News

Someone here pointed out to me that CBS News is still (relatively) independent from the rest of the network. I think the media in general have discovered they've been had by this gang of thugs and do not appreciate being made to look like fools. The worm has turned for these creeps, and it couldn't happen to a nicer bunch.

[pacifictiger]

107. I wonder if Walter Cronkite's influence

is still being felt behind the scenes at CBS?

[wtmusic]

110. Of course

Cronkite is the patriarch of CBS News, and Rather (at times, anyway) is following in his footsteps

[pacifictiger]

184. I just figured it out.

Just saw an interview on CNN with a CBS correspondent who was held hostage during the last gulf war, tortured then transferred to Abu Ghraib (which he said was better than intelligence headquarters.) Can't think of his name right now but he does 60minutes2.
He said that one of the things that went through his mind when he saw the hooded photo was "so thats what it looks like from the outside." He also said that although the guards beat him to try to get information, he did not hold animosity toward the individual guards because he figured that orders came from Saddam and so was a systemic indicator. And he said with similar circumstances he figures the iraqis possibly also thought that the US soldiers did not do it on their own, but it was indicative of a bad US system.
I bet it is his personal experience that is keeping this whole thing alive on CBS.

[Dr Fate]

207. Could be, or CBS just got sick of being censored....

...

[markses]

48. Piece of Wisdom: Federal prosecutors do not like being shit on.

It's a personal trait needed for the job. Deep commitment to justice? Nice, but you don't need it. Compassion? Super, but you don't need it. Absoilute incapicity to stand people lying to you? Necessary. You can't do the job without that trait. So, we know the Federal prosecutor on the Plame case is a Republican, but that doesn't matter. The absolute inability to endure liars trumps all personal loyalties for a federal prosecutor. I think it is getting hot as hell, and the contempt and perjury charges will begin quite soon.

I also think, as I've said from the beginning, that Bush himself personally conspired with his politicos in the White House to expose Ms. Plame. Bush himself. He is a vindictive little shit, and I'd bet he's directly involved in this criminal activity.

[wtmusic]

52. Fitzgerald is apolitical

but word is he is maniacal about being complete. Exactly what he need.

[markses]

56. Fitzgerald is a republican

But he's a damn good prosecutor, and I think he's pissed off.

[wtmusic]

60. He's registered Republican

but friends describe him as apolitical--just cares about doing a good job

[MaineDem]

61. Joe Wilson said he trusts Fitzgerald

That's good enough for me.

[Tellurian]

68. What about the Judges?

What does Joe Wilson think about the prospect of another SCOTUS landslide?

[markses]

72. Uh, I said he was damn good, and that he's pissed

I'm arguing that it doesn't matter that he's a republican.

[MaineDem]

116. Sorry...I meant that to come across as I was agreeing with you

I should know enough to not post quickly without thinking.

Sorry 'bout that. :)

[Rebellious Republican]

80. So is Lou Dobbs and John McCain, I am an ex-Repub, there are

still some decent ones left. Although they appear to be an endangered species.

[markses]

83. Yes. That's what I've been saying.

If you read the posts.

[Paragon]

74. Freeper link (quivering in their boots):

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1146483/posts

[Gothmog]

The Freepers comments are very funny

They are really worried about this story.

[Shopaholic]

133. We might need to call an undertaker or something for the Freepers. . .

I think a few of their heads just exploded! They just can't seem to grasp why their leader would need to lawyer up! :nopity:

[central scrutinizer]

157. gee - think they might reconsider tort reform?

sarcasm off

[JoFerret]

185. They sound, in fact,

rather like a bunch of DUers.

[qwertyMike]

129. Doooooooooooooooomed!

Freeper Post

To: Rokke
We're doomed. DOOMED!!



37 posted on 06/02/2004 4:08:55 PM PDT by Dog Gone
< Post Reply | Private Reply | To 34 | View Replies >


Heeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheehee

[texas is the reason]

152. A MUST READ!!!!! they are in a PANIC!...

they know this is the beginning of the end for the chimperor. impeach!impeach!impeach!

[maddezmom]

154. "impeachimpanzee"

I might have to get a new user name....LOL

[JohnLocke]

194. Get this!

"Why do I have the sickening feeling that this might be the thing that gives us President Kerry?"

"We're doomed. DOOMED!!"

"We're doomed. DOOMED!!
Not to mention KAPUT and TOAST!!!"

"Uh, yes. Dick needs to go, pronto. One of his boys is going to get nailed in this telling-secrets-to-Chalabi thing, and he'll be damaged goods from then on out. Might as well leave while the gettings good. Something tells me he's going to get one of those proverbial visits from his doctor telling him that he needs to step down for "health related reasons."

"This makes me VERY nervous. Why do I get the sinking feeling something big is going down?? Time for some Pepto."



Bwahahahaha! :D :D Bwahahahaha! :D :D

[Tellurian]

62. I think the Dems can scream about a Pubbie Prossie...

The nepotism, the Vast Right Wing Corruption warrants a Dem prosecutor!

[birdbrain]

225. Bush probably WAS personally involved.

When I first heard this story breaking, the first thing that came to mind was the revelation in Bob Woodward's book that Bush was often personally involved with Rove in political maneuvering (and dirty tricks in particular). His actions in retaining personal counsel at this stage bespeak his guilt, and his belief that the facts of his guilt are about to emerge.

[Cooley Hurd]

50. Interesting... this jumps from the Old Executive Office Bldg to the WH!

This is probably in response to Rove being fingered by someone... possibly one of the journalists who've testified (like Russert)?

[Nay]

51. Holy shit! Best news I've had in a month.

Bush gets lawyered up, the truth comes out, and we're rid of this slimy crew. Please. . .oh, please.

[Trinity]

54. Guess this means all that end of the world stuff

on june 18-20th is BS



Whew!!!! ;-)


Peace? :hippie: :smoke: :freak:


DT this!!!

[indigobusiness]

55. Bush At The Brink

[NashVegas]

63. I'm Not Going to Get Excited About This - Yet

If Bush has any reason to believe he'll be questioned, it's to be expected he'd get counsel.

It's probably that all the White House counsel themselves are all so compromised in the first place, he needs an outsider.

:evilgrin:

[pinto]

88. was that an "uh oh..."?

and your voice of reason is noted. If I was going to be questioned in a national security investigation, I sure as hell would get myself a lawyer. ASAP.

[NashVegas]

100. Something Like That

When Bush wants a lawyer because he's ready to turn himself in, I'll jump. Many times.

[pinto]

120. Me too.

[Shakespeare]

95. Bush only needs outside counsel on one condition...

If he, personally, is in need of advice apart from the office of the presidency. The white house counsel advises for the interests of the office, not the man. If Bush the person is to be questioned about anything, then he needs his own lawyer.

[central scrutinizer]

159. what if Gonzales is neck deep

in the shit as well?

[Paragon]

64. Small note on ABC's site:

http://abcnews.go.com/sections/politics/

BUSH CONTACTS OUTSIDE ATTORNEY IN LEAK CASE: ABC News' Kate Snow reports that President Bush has contacted an outside attorney in case over leak of name of CIA operative Valerie Plume, wife of former Ambassador Joseph Wilson...

[usregimechange]

65. Why isn't it being reported else where by now??? nt

[struggle4progress]

69. La La La La! La La La La! Hey Hey Hey! Good-bye!

[markses]

76. Substitute "Bush-Cheney" for Hey-Hey Hey

That'll be my election night chant.

[struggle4progress]

132. Reuters: Bush May Hire Lawyer in Probe Over CIA Leak - CBS

President Bush has sought a lawyer to represent him in the criminal probe into who was responsible for a leak that was seen as retaliation against a critic of the Iraq war, CBS Evening News reported on Wednesday.
<snip>

CBS quoted the White House as confirming that Bush had been in discussions with Washington attorney Jim Sharp and would retain him if necessary.

It is illegal under U.S. law to disclose the name of a covert agent who has served outside the country in the previous five years.
<snip>

http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=politicsNews&storyID=5327547

This story is getting picked up everywhere!

[Francine Frensky]

164. Isn't it supposed to be Na Na Na Na!

[struggle4progress]

226. Probably. I'm not that talented musically.

:)

[markses]

70. Extreme cognitive dissonance occuring at Free Republic

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1146483/posts

To: RWR8189

Me no understand.

3 posted on 06/02/2004 3:50:33 PM PDT by Rebelbase
To: RWR8189

HUH?

5 posted on 06/02/2004 3:50:56 PM PDT by hattend
To: Howlin

Doesn't make sense.

12 posted on 06/02/2004 3:57:46 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
To: RWR8189

WOW, what if this were actually true.

13 posted on 06/02/2004 3:58:53 PM PDT by snooker

[Langis]

75. Plus

"Why do I have the sickening feeling that this might be the thing that gives us President Kerry?"

[crossroads]

94. Lots more over there.. Freepers are in denial/panic... as they should be!

This IS *huge*! Bring it on!!!
:kick:

[Just Me]

141. *giggle* Eee-YUP!!! They are wiggin' out!!! Funny. n/t

[jjmalonejr]

176. That's awesome

thanks for the freeper link. lotta head scratchin goin on over there.

[Gothmog]

71. My dream of seeing Rove frog marched out of the WH may come true

This is very interesting news. Bush would not need a lawyer or make the announcement unless there is a reason. This probably means that Rove is being targeted and Bush is afraid that Rove may roll on him. I have been afraid that Bush would shut down the investigation by giving Rove a pardon. This could be fun.

[acmavm]

81. I'm not holding my breath either. Having said that I feel free to add that

THIS WON'T HELP HIS ELECTION CHANCES ANY!!!!!!!!!!!

Whoo Hoo!!! Let the shit hit that fan. It all sticks to someone in this administration. The make a drunk Richard Nixon look good.

[calimary]

167. Interesting speculation. Wonder how much honor there is among these

thieves.

Wonder who's tossing and turning and popping antacids tonight? Or drinking again, maybe?

Wonder if Bob Woodward will do a "The Final Days" sequel on THESE final days? I mean, it's not like he doesn't have access.

By the way, everyone who's posted some Freeper stuff, thank you! I just don't have the heart to go over there, myself. Too icky. And I hate to add to their click totals. It'd almost be worth it for news like this, but I'm just not quite there yet.

[maddezmom]

79. AP- Bush Consults Lawyer in CIA Leak Case - link

WASHINGTON - President Bush (news - web sites) has consulted an outside lawyer in case he needs to retain him in the grand jury investigation of who leaked the name of a covert CIA (news - web sites) operative last year, the White House said Wednesday.

There was no indication that was a target of the leak investigation, but the president has decided that "in the event that he needs his advice," he would retain him," White House deputy Claire Buchan.


The attorney is Jim Sharp, she said, confirmed a report by CBS News.

~snip~


http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=544&ncid=718&e=3&u=/ap/20040602/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush_cia_leak

[Paragon]

82. current average rating is 5.00 with 1 vote(s).

;-)

Thanks!

[maddezmom]

86. now there are 4 votes....avg.5.0

You have given the news article Bush Consults Lawyer in CIA Leak Case a rating of 5.
Its current average rating is 5.00 with 4 vote(s).

[Speck Tater]

106. 4.03 with 63 votes (nt)

[displacedtexan]

108. The Yahoo story is getting freeped.

I know it's dumb (killing the messenger when you hate the message), but I hate to see freepers skew poll votes and story ratings.

[mike1963]

162. Yeah, but the freeps are getting nailed in the msg board

:D

[markses]

87. Well, has he retained the attorney, or only consulted him? Which is it?

Has he paid a retainer and is this attorney currently working on the case, or has he merely consulted the attorney? Can they get the story straight and clear?

[peterh]

93. The text from Dow Jones….

DJ Bush Asks Outside Atty To Represent Him In CIA Case-CBS

NEW YORK (Dow Jones)--President George W. Bush has sought the help of an
outside lawyer to represent him in the probe into who leaked the name of a CIA
operative to a newspaper columnist, CBS News reported Wednesday night.

Believing that Bush will be interviewed or asked to testify before a grand
jury, White House officials confirmed that the president has put a Washington
attorney "on hot stand-by," CBS News reported.
The identity of the Central Intelligence Agency operative, Valerie Plame, was
disclosed last July by columnist Robert Kovak who said he got the information
from administration sources. Plame's husband is former diplomat Joseph Wilson,
who had publicly challenged the administration's claim that Iraq had tried to
obtain uranium for nuclear weapons in Africa.
Bush has said he has no tolerance for such leaks and has said in the past he
had no idea if the person who leaked the information would ever be found.
CBS News reported that no one so far has suggested that Bush had anything to
do with the leak or even knew about it before it became public.

(END) Dow Jones Newswires
06-02-04 1857ET(AP-DJ-06-02-04 2257GMT)



I seem to remember some conservative saying that if you need a lawyer, you’re probably guilty anyway……sure would like it to be true in this case….

[Hepburn]

104. Do you have a link? TIA n/t

[peterh]

111. sorry...can't link to DJ......eom

[Virginian]

212. So, do I have this right...

If he has to appear before the grand jury, he won't be sitting on Cheney's lap and he won't even have his attorney in the room with him?

So will this lawyer stick with him for the next investigation... of who got drunk and told Chalabi state secrets?

[peterh]

220. I’m going out on a limb here…

But I think lawyers are only good for one book….sharp will get to amplify on a rare loss and enjoy the speaker tour while the next will get sloppy seconds….

[wryter2000]

98. story rated 5.0 with 19 votes eom

eom

[crossroads]

101. Let's rate this story guys...

Rated 5 with 23 votes @ 6:21 PM Central time.
:kick:

[MrMonk]

113. 3.60 with 100 votes at 7:34 EST

Somebody's trying to bury the story.

[crossroads]

118. 3.95 with 106 votes @ 6:35 CST

:kick:

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

85. Damn trial lawyers.

Disconnect.

[Justitia]

99. hahahahaha! How appropriate, the way they always complain

about lawyers.

Now they NEED them huh?

Sweet.

BTW, I love your name and I don't know why, but "Rummy is Frosted" always makes me laugh. :hi:

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

105. Hey.

:hi:

Credit an unknown DU'er who said "Rummy is frosted!" a couple years ago. Made me laugh, too.

[Crachet2004]

91. Did the prosecutors subpoena some transcripts from Airforce One?

I thought I read that somewhere, but maybe I'm wrong, or they have'nt done it yet?

If they did, is it possible they already have Bush nailed for outing Plame?

All speculation, of course.

That would be SO sweet!

[snippy]

102. Maybe Bush is going to bring honor and integrity back to plea bargaining.

He won't though. Because he is the most corrupt, dishonest, backstabbing, vindictive little fuck in the history of American politics. He is getting ready to stab someone in his administration in the back.

[ILeft]

150. He is going to bring honor and integrity back to the "Big House"

[fizzana]

103. Bush wasn't the leaker but he knows who it is..

That's enough to get him in front of a grand jury and he better tell the truth or hie's toast.

Waiting in the wings:

Chalabi - someone high up in the Defence Dept. going down.
Abu Ghraib - a long way to go and a lot of heads to roll
Cheney & Halliburton - brand new but Waxman's all over it already.

BRING IT ON!!!!

[snippy]

117. I agree.

I think Andy Card coordinated the leaks through the White House Iraq Group, which is descrbed in this thread. http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=142863#142952

[pacifictiger]

124. more on leaks!

CNN reported a little while ago that apparently Chalabi told Iran that US had cracked their code. CNN then went on to say that secrets were told to Chalabi by a US official who was drunk at the time.
I wonder how they came across that little gem?

[usregimechange]

112. CNN Link, not on front page!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/06/02/bush.leak.ap/index.html

[neomonkey]

126. Why of course not

Scott Peterson, ther real trial we should all be concerned about, is on the front page. <sarcasm OFF>

[fearnobush]

198. CNN Whore for Bush media.

The word is spreading that CNN is Bush Whore media.

[Don_G]

115. Holy Crap!!!

He might have to put up everything he's stolen so far for BAIL!!!!

Baaaawwwwwaaaahhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!

[maddezmom]

119. It's hit Australia and the UK

http://www.theadvertiser.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5936,9732059%255E1702,00.html

http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5478,9732059%255E1702,00.html

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uslatest/story/0,1282,-4161637,00.html

[crossroads]

121. Story getting Freeped --- See Post 79 and rate story at yahoo...

:kick:

[MikeG]

122. While we're at it, lets find out if he got a BJ in the Oval Office.

Seems only fair.

[MikeG]

123. The headline should be: W LAWYERS UP!!

[happynewyear]

127. Bush Consults Lawyer in CIA Leak Case (Associated Press link)

<< WASHINGTON - President Bush (news - web sites) has consulted an outside lawyer in case he needs to retain him in the grand jury investigation of who leaked the name of a covert CIA (news - web sites) operative last year, the White House said Wednesday.

There was no indication that Bush is a target of the leak investigation, but the president has decided that in the event he needs an attorney's advice, "he would retain him," White House spokeswoman Claire Buchan said.

The lawyer is Jim Sharp, Buchan said, confirming a report by CBS News.

"The president has said that everyone should cooperate in this matter and that would include himself," the spokeswoman said.

She deflected questions about whether Bush had been asked to appear before a grand jury in the case.

A federal grand jury in Washington is investigating who leaked the name of CIA operative Valerie Plame, wife of former Ambassador Joseph Wilson, to the news media. Plame was first identified by syndicated columnist and TV commentator Robert Novak in a column last July. Novak said his information came from administration sources. >>

much more ...

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040602/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush_cia_leak&e=1&ncid=

[Stocat]

128. Right after Novak was subpoenaed too!

Anyone else notice that this is roughly one week after Novak was probably subpoenaed?


Article Last Updated: Sunday, May 23, 2004 - 3:17:00 AM PST

WASHINGTON -- A federal grand jury has subpoenaed at least two journalists, Tim Russert of NBC's "Meet the Press" and Matthew Cooper of Time magazine, to testify about whether the Bush White House leaked the identity of an undercover CIA officer to the news media.

http://www.dailyreviewonline.com/Stories/0,1413,88~10973~2167236,00.html

[abburdlen]

130. In my mind's eye

It's been a bad few weeks for the (re)election campaign. Karl just hasn't had anything go well. Nothing differnt today but a spin master does what a spin master does. This morning he walks into the Oval Office and says, "Mr. President, I've got good news and bad news..."
* responds with a confused look (Rove has worked a long time with George, he can recognize the different degrees of confused looks)
"The good news is that mess in Iraq ain't gonna be the top story tomorrow."

[Itchinjim]

215. Hee hee hee ha ha ha! Good one! eom

[Maeve]

131. Don't it just warm the cockles of your heart????

:bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce:

[crossroads]

137. Story rated 4 with 163 votes @ 6:55 Central time - Rate it, being Freeped

:kick:

[Tellurian]

209. Yes, it does Maeve...hee!

Faith n' begorrah!

Past time for Brehon Law.

[teryang]

134. If the Congress can't subpoena the *resident....

...how can a grand jury? This is the WH position. It will be a separation of powers defense. Clinton didn't have to testify while in office.

[ChompySnack]

140. Oh yes he did

Why else would the Republican mantra be "it's not about sex, it's about lying"?

They put him under oath.

From what I understand, you can't plead the fifth with a grand jury!

[LizW]

182. You can invoke the Fifth before a grand jury

but only when you absolutely must, because it makes you look guilty as hell. :)

[Dookus]

143. Of course

Clinton had to testify to a Grand Jury while President. It lead to his impeachment.

[teryang]

224. He didn't fight it

That doesn't mean he had too. As I recall, his initial testimony was in a civil case, which is even less compelling.

His testimony before the special prosecutor was VOLUNTARY:

<QUESTION: My name is Sol Wisenberg. I'm a deputy independent counsel with the Office of Independent Counsel. And with me today are some other attorneys from the Office of Independent Counsel.

At the courthouse are the ladies and gentlemen of the grand jury prepared to receive your testimony as you give it. Do you understand, sir?

CLINTON: Yes, I do.

QUESTION: This proceeding is subject to Rule 6(e) of the federal rules of criminal procedure as modified by Judge Johnson's order.

You are appearing voluntarily today as part of an agreement worked out between your attorney, the Office of the Independent Counsel, and with the approval of Judge Johnson. Is that correct, sir?

CLINTON: That is correct.>

[progressivebydesign]

136. Maybe a 2 for 1 deal for that Chalabai thing hitting the fan today N/T

[sampsonblk]

142. Excellent!

The grand jury is still plugging along, and that's good news for us. The Freepers are panicking. That's also good news.

[David Zephyr]

144. But Will Cheney Get to Hold Georgie's Hand When Before the Grand Jury?

I like this story. I like it a lot.

[dweller]

148. 4.08 w/ 216 votes n/t

:kick:

dp

[madrchsod]

149. ed murrow is smiling-

we need ed more than ever-i actually remember some of the programs he did...

[joanne]

169. Wasnt Tim Russert Subpoened too?

It's about time...the gig will soon be up for the Liar in Chief.

[Jacobin]

168. The refrain from the Hallelujah chorus is screaming in my head.

:bounce:

:bounce:


:bounce:

[maddezmom]

170. LOL...and Newnight on CNN is doing a story tonight

Hallelujah,
Hallelujah Hallelujah

;)

[dusty64]

171. Wow, imagine if all

the media was like cbs has been lately. They seem to be showing the difference between a free press and blatant propaganda.

[drdtroit]

172. IMPEACH!!!

'nuff said.

[rhino47]

221. Hiya drdtroit welcome to DU

:hi::hi::hi::hi::hi:

[arkiedem]

173. Oh, I LOVE This!!

I'm glad to see CBS taking the lead in this one. Dan must feel like he's covering Watergate II.

On another note, I've been following the freeper threads on this. Man, are they sensitive! Somebody reported a newbie as a troll for posting the following:

Bush faces six problems before the election:
---the possibility of grand jury indictments against members of Cheney's office concerning the Plame leak.
---a probable investigation that Cheney "engineered" the Halliburton no-bid contracts.
---Michael Moore's movie due in late June and out on DVD before the election.
---Kitty Kelly's bio on the Bush family due in September.
---possible Supreme Court ruling ordering Cheney to open his energy task force files.
---possible continued meltdown in Iraq.

Let's say one of these explodes and impacts the public. I'm betting that two will.

Any comments?

====

Nothing like shooting the messenger, is there? :)

[joanne]

174. Dont forget the prisoner abuse scandal

that Dumbya and Rumsfailed probably knew all about months ago.

[fearnobush]

197. Welcome to DU!!!

:toast:

[qanda]

175. Man, I go to the store to buy a toilet seat

And come back to find that Bush* is in the bowl. Perfect time to cover him up and flush.

[crossroads]

177. ...the Bushit the fan...Yuk Yuk!

That was a perfect post pbl...lol.
:hi: :kick:

[RobinA]

181. Any Info

on who this Sharp is, where he's from, and what kind of work he does? If he's in tax law, I'm not getting too excited.

[Hepburn]

191. James E. Sharp is...

...(from) Washington,(and) a former assistant U.S. attorney who heads his own firm...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A11084-2004Jun2.html

Sharp was a lawyer for retired Air Force General Richard V. Secord, who pleaded guilty in 1989 to lying to Congress about the Reagan administration's funding of Nicaraguan Contra rebels with funds raised from Iranian arms sales, according to Bloomberg News. The U.S. District Court in Washington expunged his conviction in 2000, at Secord's request.

http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/nation/ny-usbush0603a,0,3971569.story?coll=ny-top-headlines

My best guess: This is a CRIMINAL defense attorney!!

:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

[Media_Lies_Daily]

183. Very, VERY, telling.

[LifeDuringWartime]

188. enron?

those tapes leaked just the other day, you know...

[Dr Fate]

199. Is he wunna them evil trial lawyers? n/t

n/t

[Hepburn]

202. See above post by me...he appears to be...

A CRIMINAL DEFENSE ATTORNEY!!

Booooooosh is going DOWN!!!!! IMO: This is a big deal - Bush being called to testify before the GJ! This means that the AUSA assigned to the case has balls and he is willing to go all the way.

JMHO - but happy as a lark for feeling like this!! :bounce:

[Doosh]

203. the last gasp of the damned

[RetroLounge]

204. Sweeeeeeeeeeet!

:bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

RL

[Beetwasher]

208. This Is Certainly Good News!

Let's hope it's gets some play, although at this point, it sort of has to take a number...

[Oilwellian]

210. I can't believe this hasn't been posted

Perhaps Wilson knew all along that Bush was involved. This taunting pic in front of the White House may be a clue. :D

[anarchy1999]

216. Everyone go to yahoo and rate this # 1.

This is huge, Bush just might be going down. If we keep up the heat, we have to!

[anarchy1999]

218. Go now to yahoo and rate #1

Bush can burn. He and his whole criminal administration. This is a chance. Don't let it go.

[rachael7]

219. 3.85 with 355 votes at 22:25 PST

Keep hitting this article. We have to get this around!

[drfemoe]

223. Hit it at the NYT >>

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/national/AP-Bush-CIA-Leak.html

also >>>

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/national/AP-Bush-CIA-Leak.html

and google news >>

http://news.google.com/news?num=30&hl=en&edition=us&q=cluster:www%2ecsmonitor%2ecom%2f2004%2f0602%2fp08s02%2dcomv%2ehtml

[Virginian]

227. Did George Tenet just fall on his sword to get this off page 1?

This and the Chalabi story, has the resignation of the CIA director driven them from the front page already?

[skip fox]

228. In this story WHO leaked is increasingly important!

If it was Rove, then he probably fessed up to the President after the shit strated hitting the fan. Meaning Bush knew and was a part of a potential obstruction effort. If it was Scooter Libby from the VP's office, Scooter would have fessed up to Cheney and Cheney to Bush. That implicates two in a potential obstruction effort.

See link below for argument that it was Scooter:


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x1712820

[Betty The Younger]

230. The press will overload the American public with info and images

They will tire of it, and move on to another subject. Nothing will come of this. Thats become the sad fact of American politics. Nothing sticks. Maybe 20 years from now, if we're still here, we'll know the truth of it all. Until then enjoy the action packed movie. Popcorn anyone?

[Moderator]

232. Due to size of this thread, please continue discuss here, thanks

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x600420