Southern Baptist Convention quits Baptist World Alliance

[UpInArms]

http://www.gulflive.com/news/mississippipress/index.ssf?/base/news/10873809475050.xml

PASCAGOULA -- Citing "anti-American" thinking, the Southern Baptist Convention voted Tuesday to leave the Baptist World Alliance.

"I think it's a bad thing," said the Rev. Dr. Rex Yancey, pastor of First Baptist Church of Pascagoula.

The move passed overwhelmingly by a show of hands at the group's meeting in Indianapolis. The pullout was proposed by the denomination's executive committee on the basis of a negative report which complained that some in the alliance had questioned inerrancy of the Bible, allowed women to serve as ministers and adopted an "anti- American" tone.

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Despite the convention's claims that the Alliance's theology had grown too liberal, Yancey said there was likely still a place for Southern Baptists in the Alliance. He compared Baptists to products from the Heinz Company: "There are 57 different varieties," he said.

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We just can't have those uppity women doing anything, now can we?

That's just "un-American"!

Guess we'll have those Taliban-style thumpers rising up soon against the 21st century.

[sniffa]

1. good

Let them get even more out of touch.

[Solly Mack]

2. LMAO

what a bunch of fucking idiots

I say this as the granddaughter of a southern baptist minister...so spare me any outrage.

[Tellurian]

3. The women thing is a "saving face" excuse..

So, it appears 2/3 of the Baptists have broken away from supporting Bush. Bush's only base now is with the Southern Baptists.

[Classical_Liberal]

4. I wish the Missouri, Texas, Oklahoma and Georgia

Baptists would hurry up and break off from them. If their membership lists went down, so would their importance as a political force. It would also help the dems since it would lower the Ralph Reed's influence on those churches.

[Wright Patman]

5. I'm in Texas

and my pastor is one of the troglodytes. I'd say a majority of the congregation is as well at this point. It didn't used to be. A previous pastor used to criticize the conservative takeover occasionally in his sermons. And it was a popular position to take in our local church. But no more.

I don't know who pulled off 9-11 (I certainly don't believe it was bin Laden; it was more likely a "false flag" operation sponsored by a well-known intelligence agency), but this precipitated a sea change in thinking among the shallow thinkers (and most SBs are, almost by definition, shallow in their thinking).

What we have now in Texas SB churches is a sort of mixed worship of God, the flag, the military and * as the embodiment of Christian Amerika.

"You cannot serve two masters," but that is exactly what SBs are now attempting to do. Every knee shall bow and every tongue confess faith in God and Empire America, not necessarily in that order.

[Tellurian]

12. Well, that has changed as of today...

The eastern Southern Baptists have broken away from the Baptists Alliance. That means these Baptists are all that remain as staunch Bush supporters. The majority of the Southern Baptists have broken away from Bush. It seems they think as we do. Bush is meddling too much between religion and politics.

[Classical_Liberal]

16. I don't get it

Where is your evidence that they have broke away from Bush?

[Tellurian]

18. They are dissing all his recommenadations...

[SpiralHawk]

6. Irrelevant. All True Believers are already gone via Rapture

All that's Left Behind here on earth are us Damned Corupted Ones fighting over the ideological crumbs. Your sect and sex are irrelevant. So lets continue to rape the earth and make cashmegamoneybuck profits and follow the Brave (but AWOL) BushCo to a Merry Old Armageddon.

Your comments are not appreciated.

[Stuckinthebush]

7. God is pro-American!

Fascinating theology, isn't it?

There is a Southern Baptist church around the corner from my house that is ringed with American flags. This is a huge church, and the flags are placed on the perimeter of the property every 10 feet or so. It is quite a sight...and kind of spooky too. These flags were not a product of the war, they have been there before 9/11.

I have a number of friends who are ministers from the Presbyterian, Methodist, and Episcopalian denominations. When I ask them about this practice, they just shake their heads in disbelief. When one combines loyalty to country and loyalty to their god, you get a very volatile mix.

[brooklynite]

8. I assume only the men voted to leave...

since the women are supposed to lovingly submit to their decisions?

[lil-petunia]

9. Inerrancy Rules! Southern Baptists Rock!

Let's just see now.
An ancient, unused language, translated into old greek, translated into new greek, translated into latin, translated into english, translated and re-edited under orders of King James, edited and modernized, and when compared to similar translations of the Torah, saying completely different things,

and this means inerrancy?

These guys are so full of it it makes me laugh. I can only imagine the rest of the conferees, thinking, "Whew, for a I while I was worried that they wouldn't leave! Those nuts are a real set of lumps in the bed. Now we can put some rationality, sanity and life back into this place.


For those who don't know INERRANCY is the belief that the word of dog as portrayed in the bible, is absolutely accurate, down to the creation of the world in 7 days, men coughing up a rib to form a lesser playtoy called woman, and snakes speaking to folks about their dietary need for a balanced, fruit-based diet.

Questioning any word contained in the bible, or even comparing opposite statements that logically cannot be reconciled, is a mortal sin. And if your bible doesn't say what the other bible version says, then you both go to hell.

[Ganja Ninja]

10. Politics or Religion? You make the call.

If it's politics then why should they be granted a tax exempt status?

[w4rma]

11. The Southern Baptist Convention is moving farther outside of mainstream.

As a Christian and a Baptist who is *extremely* unhappy with the leaderhip of the Southern Baptist Convention, I am glad that they are marginalizing themselves.

[Torgo4]

14. SBC--F---'Em, They're ALWAYS wrong!!!

Didn't they secede from Baptists in 1850 so they could keep their slaves!

They were wrong about:
slavery
civil rights
child labor
women's rights

What'r the odds they're right about gay marraige?

Their slogan should be:
"Being Southern Baptist means always having to explain/apologize to your grandchildren, why you were such a bigoted, narrow-minded dumass back then!"

[Liberal Veteran]

13. Grew up in a Southern Baptist household....

I can't tell you the number of outright lies and urban legends I used hear from the pulpit and sunday school on a regular basis.

All the usual crap would be in the bulletin. Like "Nasa Scientist Find Missing Day" or "Proctor and Gamble Logo is Satanic Worship Symbol".

They thrive on the shit. There also embrace victimhood and believe they are just short of being tossed to the lions for everyone's amusement.

I watched them from the early 70's to beginning of the 80's go from a collection of largerly decent churches to a group of biggotted fundamentalists they have become today.

[FizzFuzz]

15. I happened to hear a brief interview with the Pastor of SB

what struck me in particular was his complaint that everyone is against Evangelicals, and that all they want is the freedom to practice their religion.

Boo frickety hoo.

This would be fine with me, as everyone here in the US is SUPPOSEDLY free to practice their religion, but to them, and what they never come out and openly admit, is that practicing their religion freely specifically requires STOPPING everyone else from practicing theirs.

grrrrr.

morans.

well good fine, yes marginalize yourselves some more, thats better for the rest of us.

thinking out loud on edit:
maybe more than them wanting to stop everyone else from practicing their religion freely, the problem is more about them blindly supporting the Bushkriegenschtadt, so that the politicians court them furiously, and therefore the politicians believe in already or take on various rhetoric in order to please that constituency....OH wait, also the admin is aggressively conservative, which finds support in the SBC. Symbiotic relationship. Or an unholy alliance.

[xchrom]

17. good

they are only fit to talk to each other -- they drive civilized people crazy!
i wish the episcopal church could shed it's conservatives.

[GoddessOfGuinness]

19. Sometimes chaff separates itself from grain

with very little winnowing.

What a useless cult. Its self-induced extinction will not disturb me in the least.