Alleged Johnson kidnapping ringleader has been killed - CNN

[Wonk]

Al Arabiya is reporting that Abdel Aziz Al Muqrin (top Saudi Arabian Al Qaeda) has been killed, but CNN says they haven't confirmed his death yet.

I'll post more when I find a link.

edit:
http://www.asianews.it/view.php?l=en&art=1000
(snip)
In the video that shows Paul Johnson, the American citizen held captive by the terrorists, Abdel Aziz al-Muqrin introduces himself as the leader of the terrorist organisation in Saudi Arabia.

edit: 5:07 pm
CNN now says they have confirmed the story.

edit: 5:24 pm
http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/06/18/saudi.kidnap/index.html
(snip)

Abdel Aziz al-Muqrin, the leader of al Qaeda's cell in Saudi Arabia, was killed, Saudi security sources told CNN.

He was killed while disposing of Johnson's body, the Arabic-language television network Al-Arabiya reported.

[StopThief]

1. Forget RIP. . . . .BIH

Tata scumbag.

[Wind Dancer]

2. That was quick!

????????????????

:tinfoilhat:

[Hoping4Change]

6. Isn't just so amazing? Boy that's really something.

:wtf:

[prolesunited]

8. No kidding

They couldn't find Johnson all week, but they find the ringleader in a couple of hours?

[greatauntoftriplets]

27. Excellent point.

:thumbsup:

[DoNotRefill]

51. from the reports now...

they caught them dumping the body.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

He was in the next cell.

[HereSince1628]

21. The visual to VIrginia motto is someone beheaded, right?

[HereSince1628]

The visual to VIrginia motto is someone beheaded, right?

[renegade000]

32. no, just dead and with the crown removed

[Warpy]

19. Too quick

I think the SA officials may have taken a cue from Casablanca and simply rounded up the usual suspects.

Since there is a large pro-OBL faction within the royal family, they've had little will to go after their terrorist infrastructure.

[GingerSnaps]

47. Too quick for me to buy it

:tinfoilhat:

[jayavarman]

3. good

F*ck Him.

[Az_lefty]

4. Glad they got him, but a little late.

[Newsjock]

5. How conveeeeeeeenient

Tell no tales. Question is, who will cash his last paycheck from RummyCo?

[Sandpiper]

7. Boy, that was fast

If they could find him that quickly, why couldn't they find Johnson?

[DeepModem Mom]

10. Raises more questions about elements in Saudi security --

and rumors that some cooperate with Al Qaeda.

[soleft]

9. For a second there I thought we were going to have to invade SA

But since they're on top of hunting down and bringing to justice their harbored Al Quada members, there's no need to upset Prince Bandahar. Close one.

:eyes:

[vivalarev]

13. how in the blue hell.....

i dont buy into conspiracy theories, but im sure one can be made from this. how could they not find the hostage, but yet they can find his body and his killer all within 2 hours....whats wrong with this picture

[piece sine]

62. Ha!

Saudi Arabia is the ONLY absolute monarchy left on earth. As theorcratic as it it severe, it represents the worse of the Arab world; and one of the worst in the whole world. They are corrupt beyond any midewestern liberal's comprehension.

[NuttyFluffers]

65. :smiles: it sure is... brings back memories.

fun place growing up. wouldn't want to live there now.

heh, food for thought for those with tinfoil hats. "Dead men tell no tales."

Saudi Arabia is sooo not the real world. But it makes it easier if you can appreciate it for the fantasy it is.

[bluestateguy]

11. Well uh, that's good, but it's too late

[displacedtexan]

12. Guy Montag is dead.

Rejoice, Cousins!

[janx]

14. C'mon....

Is this some kind of twisted joke?

[Name removed]

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[Hoping4Change]

25. Please expand on that thought.

[President Jesus]

45. I don't believe this post

is genuine. Beware.

[Wonk]

48. That poster has been tombstoned, possibly for that, possibly for something

else they posted elsewhere on DU.

Just thought I'd point that out.

[Hoping4Change]

54. I was suspicious and was trying to figure out where he

was going with his comment because several other remarks were fishy.

Thanks for the heads-up.

[Longhorn79]

57. Don't tell me you don't think these pieces of dung aren't terrorists

[tandot]

15. So, how many leaders does Al Qaeda have?

Just wondering.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

46. As many as it takes.

[Spazito]

16. Geez!

Timing is everything, I guess! This is absolutely amazing, how astute of them to find and kill the guy just hours AFTER he kills the hostage. I know, he must have been carrying a placard saying "I did it" as he walked about otherwise they would have caught him BEFORE the beheading, right?

[vivalarev]

20. yes

yes spaz....he must have been carrying a sign. either that, or they just got there seconds after they cut his head off....your guess is as good as mine

[Name removed]

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[Hoping4Change]

28. Maybe he also had on an orange jumpsuit?

[geek tragedy]

18. A theory

That the heat got to be too much for the AQ sympathizers within the Saudi government, and they had to offer a sacrificial lamb.

[Name removed]

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[Spazito]

29. I highly doubt it, if that were the case, they would have given him up...

BEFORE the beheading, no sale here.

[geek tragedy]

33. Good point.

With Bush and the Saudi entity controlling all information, I don't know what to believe.

[jayavarman]

23. CNN says

he was reportedly caught "while disposing of American hostage's body"

[hightime]

26. I always hate that part of the job

[Hoping4Change]

31. LOL....

[Hoping4Change]

35. Give me a break. With Saudi police and informants everywhere

who would be stupid enough to trot off with a corpse the day of the murder?

This has got to be the stooopidiest story I ever heard.

[DoNotRefill]

52. what else do you do with it?

if you just leave it, a body will start to smell very quickly as it starts to decompose. It's a very distinctive smell.

[Hoping4Change]

66. chop it up. cook it. freeze it . burn it. pour acid on it.

There are a number of ways to hide or discreetly dispose of a corpse. These people who demonstrate moral depravity and lack of conscience would have no qulams hacking apart a corpse in order to dispose of it discreetly.

[DoNotRefill]

68. but dumping it is the easiest....

and quickest.

[Hoping4Change]

70. Not when you know the entire Saudi secret police are on

high alert. How much extra effort and time does it take to lop off some limbs?

[BootinUp]

30. I say don't believe first reports

There will be some major corrections coming.

[Wonk]

36. CNN is now reporting that they have confirmed the Al Arabiya story. nt

[keithyboy]

43. Al-Jazeera is telling a different story.

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/653CA47F-E422-47F3-8B72-A85C7D1119AE.htm

[JohnLocke]

44. I don't trust al-Jazeera to tell me the correct time.

I really don't.

[Longhorn79]

58. Please tell me you don't rely on Al Jazeera for any sort of factual info

[keithyboy]

59. Please prove where they have been less accurate than the NYT

I haven't found a story by them that has been untrue. But then, I don't have the means to investigate them anymore than the media we support in the ME.

[Longhorn79]

61. Well, I didn't say they were worse than NYT

I think Jayson Blair has a good shot at getting that Amman bureau job.

[keithyboy]

72. Turns out that Al-Jazeera story was closer to the truth...

The first report from the Al-Aribya news was that the killers were captured while trying to dispose of the body. Now all the news outlets are reporting that the Saudis are searching for the body. If the body was present when the alleged kidnappers were killed, how did they lose the body? Al-Jazeera story included nothing about the people being killed while disposing of the body.

[Insider]

34. act II, scene 2

they haven't confirmed the video yet, have they?
they haven't confirmed this war yet either, have they?
they haven't confirmed the asia news on italian website yet, have they?

[ewagner]

37. Glad they got him

I don't know if it's justice but it sure as hell feels good to know there's one less on the streets.......

as for the circumstances?? Well, I suppose stranger things have happened.

[Gloria]

38. CBC/RCI reported that they had killed the leader of AQ and 2

others "while they were disposing of Johnson's body."

WTF????


This, by the way, just as the report about how the US would want to get
"tougher" on the Saudis because they "weren't serious" about catching terrorists in SA.....

[Dover]

39. Isn't it INTERESTING how al Qaeda terrorists NEVER make it to court

They always kill them...no questions ever asked.

You can be sure it's a ruse.

[DoNotRefill]

53. if they will not surrender....

what other option is there? You can either kill them or let them get away.

[pinniped]

40. Nope, they can't remove the "boogeyman" from the equation just yet...

And why wouldn't the "alleged" mastermind have one of his henchmen dump the body?

If another foreigner is taken hostage you will certainly hear his name again.

[librechik]

41. Tim McVeigh agrees: Dead Men Tell no Tales n/t

[Fenris]

42. Saudi Security Forces: We're Nearly On Time!

[okieinpain]

49. let's see, don't tell me. I know they found his wallet next to the

victim's body.

[Spazito]

50. LOL just like Atta's passport being found completely intact ....

the coincidences that continually happen are.....ummmm.....almost unbelievable!

[Longhorn79]

60. What, you don't think Atta was involved with 9-11?

The evidence is unimpeachable, unless you know something I don't. I prefer to debate conservatives with legitimate points, not pie-in-the-sky theories. Saudis perpetrated 9-11, no question about it.

[Heyo]

55. Wow...

Looks like the Saudi's might've actually done something almost right..

provided these were the right guys...

Too bad they didn't find them in time enough to save this man's life... but I guess they were caught dumping the body.

Heyo

[napsi]

56. I'm just sorry we didn't tell the terrorists

who killed Mr. Johnson that we would behead 5 of their terrorist buddies for every day he was held captive and follow through with it. I understand why we didn't do this but these jerkoffs only know one language and death seems to be it. I'm sick of this shit. I understand Mr. Johnson was there of his own will and he knew the dangers but it doesn't make it any less tragic.

[daleo]

63. I fear they just killed some random guy and called him Al-Queda

To get the heat off, and to make it seem like Johnson was avenged.

[DoNotRefill]

64. well, if it is true that they found them when....

they were disposing of Johnson's body, then odds are pretty good that they were a) either somehow involved with his kidnappers, or b) worked for the local "Dump-a-body" service.

It's not like your average innocent person would find the body, throw it in the car, drive it around for a while, and then discard it, unless they were in some kind of necropheliac cruising club.

[daleo]

74. I heard on CNN today (about noon) they were still looking for the body

Which surprised me, because I had also heard the story about how the suspect was found trying to dump the body. So I don't know if this adds up.

Also, this presupposes that you believe anything coming from the Saudi government.

[robbedvoter]

67. AlQuaeda bosses dispose of bodies? What? No "captains"?

Tony Soprano could teach them a thing or two...
They aren't even trying to make up plausible s*

[peekaloo]

69. are they still saying he was shot while dumping the body?

I have no access to prefab, er, cable news. Could have sworn a Saudi spokesperson on the Today show this a.m. clearly stated that this was not the case.

:shrug:

[Wednesdays]

71. ALL LIES

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x1820344

All lies. But no one will ever know that, because the initial event happened just before all the reporters went home for the weekend. By Monday, the story will be considered "old news," and everyone will just have heard the original propaganda and nothing more.

http://bartcopnation.com/dc/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=2&topic_id=296844

"there was a rapid response to this.Almost 2 hours later I believe they said the Saudis killed these guys...........wonder if they hit the streets and just killed a few men they seen sitting around...after all......Johnsons body is still not found.so these news stories are out and out lies.saying they caught them dumping the body.LIARS"

[BushHater2004]

73. What a sad, sad day

A death of a true hero.