Democrats Screen 'Fahrenheit 9/11' in D.C.

[RamboLiberal]

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=493&u=/ap/20040623/ap_en_mo/film_fahrenheit_911_1&printer=1

Michael Moore (news) introduced his Bush-bashing documentary, "Fahrenheit 9/11," to the nation's capital on Wednesday in a private screening for a nearly all-Democratic audience.
Senate Minority Leader Tom Daschle of South Dakota and California Sen. Barbara Boxer were among the 800 invited guests. Actress Sally Field (news) also planned to join Moore for the red-carpet premiere.

The two-hour film depicts President Bush (news - web sites) as lazy and oblivious to warnings in the summer of 2001 that al-Qaida was poised to strike. It also accuses the administration of manipulating the Sept. 11 attacks and fanning terrorism fears to win support for the Iraq (news - web sites) war.

"Fahrenheit 9/11" won the top honor at last month's Cannes Film Festival (news - web sites). Moore, a fervent Bush critic, has said he hopes the film will spur more Americans to vote in November.

It opened in limited release in New York on Wednesday, and reaction was mixed.

[Justice]

1. Reaction Mixed?

Such a slam.

[Mechatanketra]

4. Of course reactions are mixed.

Too many 'professional' Democrats took the yellow brick road to war (i.e. displaying a lack of brains, heart, or nerve).

Not to mention the majority that voted in USAPATRIOT without even reading it (another topic the movie covers, at least according to the trailer I've seen).

It's hard for our (snicker) leaders to be as fired up about criticizing this administration as the common person (read: DUdes), because they've bought in (or sold out ...) to said administration to such a degree. The problem with these people standing shoulder to shoulder with Bush all the time is, they're going to get hit by 'friendly fire' when their supporters (or those you'd think would be their supporters, i.e. those who actually oppose the Republicans) start fighting back.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

5. I think you may have misread a key phrase in the original post....

The phrase reads as follows:

"It opened in limited release in New York on Wednesday, and reaction was mixed."

In other words, the reaction was mixed in NEW YORK, not where the 800 nearly all-Democrat crowd saw the private screening. There was NO report of the reactions to the private screening.

[jackstraw45]

13. Truth hurts- Dems in Congress used words instead of action for too long

The film, correctly, is supposedly critical of the pathetic Democrats in Congress who rolled over for this criminal administration for years.

I have NO doubt that some of the good ol' boys will have their feathers ruffled.

I could care LESS what they think or say. I want ACTIONS from Congress...no more empty rhetoric.

[gasperc]

14. I suspect it wasn't nice to "our" DEM reps

they probably felt a bit irked by the movie but maybe know they understand how totally disgusted and enraged us lowly constituents

[Rose Siding]

2. I hope the Congress types embrace it

Jay Inslee, my next door Rep links it at his campaign site:

http://jayinslee.com/
Democracy for Washington,
MoveOn PAC &
Congressman Jay Inslee

are proud to present the Seattle premiere of Michael Moore’s Fahrenheit 9/11

Friday, June 25
The Neptune Theater
1303 N.E. 45th at Brooklyn Avenue
Two Shows: 7:00 pm & 9:40 pm

Tickets are only $9.00 each

A limited number of tickets are available online!

Join us for this premier showing to Seattle’s progressive activist community!

[Mnemosyne]

3. Bohemian Grove. n/t

[Zhade]

16. Huh? Not sure I follow you.

I know of the Grove, but I don't get your meaning here.

A little help?

[Mnemosyne]

17. We all expected different reaction...

from ALL dems, but got "mixed" reactions instead. This is quite probably due to influences exerted during their fun little outing each year.

Everyone needs to dig deep and find out what is really going on there. Read "The Franklin Coverup" - Senator John DeCamp - it'll take you on a journey you may not like or want to believe.

google Senator DeCamp and go from there. Very frightening and unF**king believable, but true. He was a very respected legislator, I'm not sure if he is still alive or has had an "accident", like many others involved in revealing the coverup, if alive he is atty in Lincoln, Neb.

Didn't have time yesterday to keep up search, will try today. more if I find it.

[Zhade]

18. Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh. I get your meaning now.

In other words, the true motivations of our very own elite.

I hear ya. I'm also aware of the Franklin Coverup issue. Frightening stuff, especially if true - which I am willing to believe is a strong possibility.

I've got a couple of (really bad quality) videos shot by Alex Jones while at Bohemian Grove. Weird stuff.

[Carolab]

19. Daschle was a guest

at Bohemian Grove, did you notice?

[Mnemosyne]

21. Welcome Carolab!!!

Wonder who the guest list is next month?

[dArKeR]

6. Fahrenheit 9/11 is hot, hot, hot rave critics - IOL

http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=1&click_id=3&art_id=qw1088012880513B221

[FlemingsGhost]

7. Moore outclasses them all.

Doing the job they are incapable of, or unwilling to do.

Hang your heads, Senators. Michael Moore cannot be bought, bullied or intimidated. Cowards.

(edited for grammar)

[Cocoa]

8. when do the republicans get to see it?

I hope they don't have to stand in line with everyone else. :-)

[FlemingsGhost]

9. Do prisons still have "movie night?"

Perhaps they'll enjoy a "private screening."

[lightbulb]

10. how about the troops stationed in Iraq?

I'll bet a lot of them would love to get this birds-eye view of their situation. Lets hope some copies make it through the censors over there.

[robbedvoter]

11. Mixed reaction today in NYC: some stood up, some applauded seating

Extremely mixed. Also, some applauded throughout the movie, some wanted to hear every word.

[osaMABUSh]

12. what do you mean mixed? booing etc.?

I imagine most folks would be a little embarrassed to applaud or stand up even if they agreed with the movie but were there outright catcalls, boos, etc.?

[nodehopper]

24. heh

that's how it was at the theater where I saw it

[0007]

26. Where was that?

[struggle4progress]

15. THE POLITICS OF FILM

'Fahrenheit 9/11' may be especially influential among younger voters

<snip>
"Young people digest a lot of their politics from nontraditional sources," such as Jon Stewart on Comedy Central and David Letterman on CBS, said Mark Lopez, research director for the nonprofit Center for Information and Research on Civic Learning and Engagement. Moore's movie "may be a nontraditional source, and if it reaches a wider audience, it would help form some people's opinions.''
<snip>

"It's not often you get a movie that's focused on a major election year issue ... and 'Fahrenheit 9/11' is getting at the issues that young people care about -- in this case, the war in Iraq and the war on terrorism,'' said Jonathan Zaff, president of "18 to 35,'' a nonpartisan organization based in Washington, D.C., that tries to encourage first-time voters.

Zaff said about one-third of younger voters are registered as nonpartisan -- a considerably higher percentage than among older voters. The themes of Moore's film may particularly hit home with such viewers because "around 80 percent of frontline men and women (serving in Iraq) are under the age of 35'' -- and they represent the lion's share of casualties there, he said.
<snip>

"The buzz is just overwhelming down here. People are saying, 'I've got to go see this,' '' said Sherry Bebitch Jeffe, a senior scholar at the University of Southern California School of Policy and Development. But whether it becomes an election-year "must see" and just what effect it may have on the political landscape, she said, "may be clearer after a week of box office.''
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http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2004/06/24/MOOREFILM.TMP

[Sunny_Sunshine]

20. Can someone help me out?

I am a wuss, I can't handle violence, therefore, I was unable to see Bowling for Columbine. For years my children (now college students) have screened movies for me to see if they are safe (sadly, very few are - I had trouble with a couple scenes in Chicago). Anyway, I thought I could see this one but when I asked my sweetie about going this weekend, he tells me flat out, no way, because there are some beheadings. Nothing I have read mentions this. Can anyone tell me about this? Is it a lot, can I just close my eyes or is there a lot of screaming?

[Corgigal]

22. I'm seeing the movie today

what I understand is that this movie shows one beheading from far away and it was "performed" by Saudi Arabia. Bowling for Columbine had only one part that was shocking but it cuts away before any "action" violence is shown.
However F 9/11 is going to talk about war and there is no pretty way to put that on the screen however the mothers who have lost children deserve us to witness their pain. Think of it that way, it's the least we can do.

[nodehopper]

23. there is a long shot

of a Saudi beheading.

It's not the Berg tape if that's what you are thinking.

Again, it's a long shot, mostly silhouetters, but you can see what's going on, and the blood flowing. It's graphic but not that gory. And only about 15 seconds or so.

There are some shots of wounded children and soldiers.

The WTC attacks aren't shows, there is only audio against a black screen to convey what has happened,

[nodehopper]

25. oh, and yeah, you can just close your eyes

the hard stuff in the film isn't the violence, it's emotionally hard in other ways

I think it's an important enough film that you should just go see it and close your eyes in a couple of places.

It's a documentary, it's not Nightmare on Elm Street. All the people on the screen lived through whatever is being shows, the least we can do is go see it.

[lostnfound]

28. The vast majority of the film is not gory or bloody;

There are some images from the war that are. THe beheading is not at all--it's grainy black and white image from a distance, no sound that I recall. But probably 95% of the movie is people talking. It doesn't linger on anything too long.

[dArKeR]

27. Rate Moore's yahoo pic a '5'!

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/040624/photos_en/mdf604...