Local Marines Vow Revenge

[UpInArms]

http://www.wcjb.com/news.asp?id=10035

Locally many marines are praying for their captured brother Corporal Wassef Ali Hassoun. Cpl. Hassoun was shown on the Arab satellite television network Al- Jazeera Sunday blindfolded and with a sword to his throat.

A militant group is threatening to kill Cpl. Hassoun unless Iraqi prisoners are released from "occupational prisons."

Upon hearing the news soldiers say they are angry, and the Marine’s capture makes the war on terror a lot more personal. Local marines know, marines around the county would do anything to help a brother in trouble.

"We're going to come back two or three times stronger than what we did before because now we are mad," says Gunnery Sergeant Anderson.

...a bit more...

Now what in the world does that mean? "LocallY" vowing revenge? Are they going to hunt people down and kill them? Are they going to encourage more violence in Iraq?

I don't understand....:shrug:

[DS1]

1. This is one of the most horribly written news articles I've read in a long

time.

[pinkpops]

I think it means they will round up the usual suspects.

[Deja Q]

2. EVERYBODY WANTS REVENGE

Why not act pre-emptively and just set off every nuke on this pathetic planet and be the cheney done with it? x(

If people want peace, they'll grow the cheney up and make it, though I agree that once blood is spilt, it's hard for people to admit their emotions are getting the better of them.

Otherwise, "freedom you" is all I have to say to humanity. Press the red button now and I'll pity the little calf that gets turned into a quarter pounder with cheese in the process.

[Trajan]

3. Unless there is a policeman standing at EVERY corner ...

of EVERY street, in EVERY room of EVERY house ...

Nearly EVERY damned place that people are ..

Then: men are free to commit whatever acts suit them ....

This is NOT approval, but a simple fact of life ...

IF men are compelled to act: there is no way to stop them, unless you 'stop' them ... and in a place like Iraq, someone could get away with anything they want ....

The Marines are well known for defending their own ... Im not sure if I disagree so much with these guys ...

I dont know ....

THIS much I do know: We ARE FREE, in the ultimate sense, even if we pay a price afterwards ...

[bahrbearian]

8. More Cameras ? More warrants . more war?

[Trajan]

9. Hell: .. little 'wars' break out in bars and on beaches ...

I dont read this as aan official military edict, but as free lance anger at the state of their 'buddy' ...

I dont approve of revenge: I approve of justice ... but I do understand their motivation, given that they are 'marines' ...

It's more likely just bluster in anger ...

Further on edit:

My point about 'freedom' is this ...

When men feel compelled to act; they can UNLESS they are physically stopped from acting ...

We are FREE beings in that we can commit ourselves to action when we deem fit .... and EXECUTE that action, until we are stopped ... These soldiers seem to be speaking from their training, in that the Marines have a 'code' which the uphold above all: even if it is morally wrong ....

SURELY: someone can try to stop us from acting: arrest and incarcerate, for instance ... but even then: unless you are physically restrained; you are STILL free to act within your prison, or your cell ...

I guess I am waxing on about free will and the human condition ...

Dont mind me ... sometimes I think too much of the wrong thing ...

[bahrbearian]

11. Directed in the wrong Direction

Saddam Terrorizes himself ?

[Mikimouse]

4. Another sad example of...

'let the motherfucker burn!!!!' (but don't retaliate for our having done that, or we'll let the motherfucker burn, again!). I'm certainly impressed, aren't you? (sarcasm off)

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

5. There is no end to the cycle of violence and revenge. Why are we there?

[Sub Atomic]

6. what in the world does that mean?

it means that the marines are going to take it out on the local population of muslims.

whether that's in fallujah or detroit doesn't matter.

:wavingflag:

go usa?

[Jacobin]

7. Means they are gonna go "Israeli" on the Iraqis.

And then the Iraqis will "go Palestinian" on the Marines, and then.....on and on, and poof, you have a never ending blood feud.

Lovely, no?

[rabbit2484]

10. Since when does getting mad

make you "two or three times stronger." I wish people from this country would realize that getiing mad usually will not help solve problems, or make you stronger for that matter.

I'm not giving a solution, but compromise seems to work better.

[Forkboy]

12. simpletons

[Dover]

13. Yeah, that's what the world needs.....more machismo.

...grunt.

[Catt03]

14. I am getting pretty sick of this beheading people

This inhuman atrocious beheading of people is making me very angry.

These pathetic ghouls who are doing this are not supporting their own people. They are showing the world just how uncivilized their pathetic cause is. The alleged Marine they are threatening to kill is an Arab...a Muslin.

I believe this is just radical, fanatical scum out of control.

Should this continue and more Americans and internationals are killed this way, it will help the Bush administration not hurt it.

[FlemingsGhost]

16. What are your thoughts on cluster bombs?

Do tell ...

[Catt03]

19. Just to fill you in

I have been to every protest possible against this particular war. I have written letters, am working hard to register Democrats, join groups who are determined to get rid of this administration.

Please don't present the argument about the dropping of cluster bombs
and the US military being the bad guys here. OUR current government is responsible


I refuse to give groups like these ignorants any sensibility for their actions.

[nolabels]

20. Just to be clear about what they can do and what they are

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines02/0120-01.htm
Published on Sunday, January 20, 2002 in the Boston Globe
Cluster Bombs
Unexploded US Bomblets Mine Villages
by Elizabeth Neuffer


Villagers walk past an unexploded American cluster bomb, which they said was dropped by U.S. warplanes in October, in the village of Mullah Abdullah Karez, Afghanistan, Thursday, Jan. 17, 2002. (AP Photo/John Moore)

DENAR KHEIL, Afghanistan - Despite the official declaration of peace, thousands of Afghans who fled during the war cannot go home because their houses, fields, and villages are littered with unexploded remnants of US cluster bombs - far more than the United States had predicted.

Demining specialists said last week that nearly 20 percent of the ''bomblets'' they've seen in Afghanistan had failed to explode on impact. The Pentagon puts the failure rate at about 10 percent.


Villagers walk past an unexploded American cluster bomb, which they said was dropped by U.S. warplanes in October, in the village of Mullah Abdullah Karez, Afghanistan, Thursday, Jan. 17, 2002. (AP Photo/John Moore)
What is not in dispute is that the small, bright yellow canisters with white parachutes attached are silent killers, particularly dangerous for children, who often take them for playthings.

''You step on this, you risk losing your life,'' Robert Gannon of the Halo Trust, a British-based nongovernmental demining organization, said as he pointed out unexploded ordnance jammed in the furrows of a field in this village north of Kabul, deemed one of the most heavily infested with live bomblets in the area.
(snip)



Cluster bomb victim

Criminals hit the apartment area by cluster bombs
May 12, 1999

Nis, 12 May, 1999 (Tanjug) - The NATO criminals hit several cluster bombs on the apartment area in the Eastern Nis, provoking the crime on the civilians.

The Tanjug correspondent says that the bombs were hitting the apartment area ''Duvaniste'', ''Medijana'' in the Sreten Mladenovic and Lenin Boulevards, and the Majakovski and Branko Mladenovic Streets.

The Primary School and the High School were the targets. The Primary Schools ''Filip Filipovic'' and ''Celekula'', The High Schhols - The School of Economy, The Bussines School, The School of Cattering and the area near The Gerriatric Center.

According to the so far available informations, there were some injured civilians.

The private house was hit in the Majkovski Street and burned in flames. The damage is huge,
(snip)
http://www.serbia-info.com/news/1999-05/12/11753.html

Lots of interesting stuff at this site too
http://postconflict.unep.ch/high2.htm

[FlemingsGhost]

15. We came to liberate them from a tyrant, remember Gunny?

George Santanaya said it best:

"Fanaticism involves redoubling your efforts when you've forgotten your aim."

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"We're going to come back two or three times stronger than what we
did before because now we are mad," says Gunnery Sergeant Anderson".

Indeed. Quite mad. And I don't mean angry.


(on edit: typo)

[riverwalker]

17. I read General Kimmitt said

that when Cpl. Hassoun went missing they "assumed he took off to Lebanon" and did not think he was captured. So they didn't look for him. What a frickin' racist pig Kimmitt is. One of his Marines is missing and unaccounted for, and because he is arab, he "assumes" he ran off to Lebanon?

[bluestateguy]

18. Whatever

I can understnd the impulse to want to avenge a fellow Marine's death, but this is their war, not mine. Had the US not started this war none of this would have happened. They may get their revenge. It won't bring the Marine back to life, it will likely kill innocent people as collateral damage and it will only perpetuate a cycle of more revenge and killing.

[pinniped]

21. They must have heard that POS * gave them all immunity...

from the Iraqi legal system. Whatever kind of system that would be.

[Sugarbleus]

22. I suggest you DO UNDERSTAND and why in the hell

do people bother to post this type of thing? It only inflames more hatred. Do you LIKE causing discord? Perhaps you do it because you are on a personal crusade of your own?

I'm sick of these types of posts. Everytime I see one, I'll be on ya.

Why not talk about the homeless problem, the jobless problem, women's rights, herr bushler and his campaign to take over the freaking world....anything but this incendiaray piece of gossipy clap trap.

[leesa]

23. Well good for them. I admire them so much.

[daleo]

24. Since the war represents no great cause to most of them

It will become more and more personal to the marines and soldiers on the ground. Therefore, it will become more and more about revenge, tit for tat, reprisal, etc. This seems to be the nature of wars that lack popular support or a nobler ideal. It is hard to admit that you are killing foreigners for their oil, so it become a "protect your buddies" justification. To some extent all wars are like this, to the soldier on the ground. Or so I have read.

[maggrwaggr]

25. didn't we kidnap wives and families of men we wanted in Iraq?

Maybe somebody in the media should point this out

[fortyfeetunder]

26. If these guys are so bad

Why in the hell aren't they trying to hunt these turkeys down?

Makes one wonder....