(CNN) Parsons Takes Shot at Fox

[RamboLiberal]

<snip>

When asked by Univision Anchor Jorge Ramos why CNN was losing the ratings battle with Fox, he was not ready to concede that. He said that Fox was more like talk radio on TV, which meant that its viewers stayed longer because people tended to "come and sit down for an hour or two and listen to crazy people exchange views." CNN actually draws more viewers, he said, but said they were grazers who didn't stay long.

Parsons said he did not feel CNN was liberal, but instead has a bias for the truth. He conceded that journalists are often perceived as liberal because they tend to challenge the establishment. He did not make an overt comparison with Fox, but he did say that his news operation "does not give a corporate slant to its journalism. We don't tell them how to report."

http://www.broadcastingcable.com/article/CA443471?display=Breaking+News&referral=SUPP

[LosinIt]

1. Liberal slant?? CNN??? He's kidding, right??

[otohara]

4. They Obviously Don't Read OUR e-mails

ranting about how they are shills for Bush and we hate CNN

[pifflePill]

16. How can they ignore 40,000+ members of DU?

40,000 is enough to turn an election around and they ignore us? DU is becoming a powerful and huge electorate force and should not be ignored by the mainstream media. Perhaps if we sent each email twice it would double our efforts.

[StandUpGuy]

23. 40 000 affects the popular vote. nt

[DeepModem Mom]

2. Time Warner head Parsons is a maxed-out Bush contributor...

according to fundrace.org.

[joefree1]

3. Good news is outside of the United States CNN is in every Hotel

I never see Fox in another country. But then I never see it here either unless I'm quickly surfing by on the way to HBO.


Download the free bumper art here:
http://ediablo.com/eDiabloGallery.html

[GCP]

5. no, but they may get Sky news

Murdoch-owned.

[DeepModem Mom]

10. Actually, I find Sky in the UK not so bad, not Fox-like -- nt

[DeepModem Mom]

8. And CNN International is entirely different from CNN domestic --

which proves to me that CNN has a domestic political agenda. Iraq coverage, for example, is far more honest on CNNI. And the only domestic program that is shown daily is Larry King in the morning, and Wolf is aired on Sundays. No Bill Hemmer, no Jack Cafferty, no Judy Woodruff, Wolf for a couple of hours on Sunday; Candy and Bill Schneider appear sometimes for brief segments on American politics.

[joefree1]

14. Sky News?

I guess I never saw it. In Asia Rupert owns Star Cable which is a collection of movie, regular TV, and CNN.

However everyone the world over knows CNN. No one knows Fox. Some know of Rupert though.

[AspenRose]

6. At least he got THIS part right

"He said that Fox was more like talk radio on TV, which meant that its viewers stayed longer because people tended to "come and sit down for an hour or two and listen to crazy people exchange views."

(That said, Jorge Ramos is a hottie with brains.)
http://www.jorgeramos.com/loquedicen1.htm

The WSJ said this about him (Ramos) during the 2000 campaign:

"Jorge Ramos is Hispanic TV's No 1 correspondent and key to a huge voting bloc, making him a player in the presidential campaign."

That may be the case this year as well.

[kwolf68]

7. CNN = Right Wing hacks

I can find nothing socially redeeming or objective about CNN anymore.

Trouble is they have shows that “should” draw interest, like “Inside Politics” and other shows, but their increasing co-opting of right-wing talking points, their inability to investigate before they disseminate, and the leading questions has forced me to turn them off.

I watched the snippet on the Latino vote a while ago and thought it was terribly done. The end result I got was “Latinos are more moral and will thus be moving to the Republican camp" in talking about the "Family Values" issue. Screw their opinions on social justice and guns.

WHY DO We always analyze “WHY” Black people and other racial minorities vote Democratic?

Where the hell is the “analysis” asking why idiot white males (of which I am one…well not an idiot, but white male) vote Republican 60%+ of the time? Instead of the shit-heads in the media asking “Can Kerry win the South”, lets ask the question, “Can Bush win the North?”

Most Educated State in America=Massachusetts
Least Educated State in America=Mississippi

I’d think we’d be more concerned about who the smart people are voting for.

At the end of the day, people are turning to the Internet for their news, especially Liberals who believe their values are being short-changed.

[depakid]

9. "they were grazers who didn't stay long"

Grazers move on when their range is spent.

CNN isn't losing the rating battle "with" Fox, they're losing viewers, period. All of the television "news" channels are.

[Downtown Hound]

11. So is this how their argument is going to go:

CNN=I love Bush more than you!

FOX=No, I love him more than you!

CNN=Do Not!

FOX=Do to!

CNN=Nu uh!

FOX=Uh huh!

And on to infinity?

[KoKo]

13. LOL's! Good analysis of the current battle between Faux and Corporate

News Network....:D

[Tight_rope]

19. LOL...Bingo...The fight for who kisses Bush's ass more!

[SemperEadem]

12. Fox=trough news

CNN is more 'free range' news, huh? I don't watch either. No wonder Fox junkies all seem to have the same fat indexes... too much between their ears.

Just think of force fed chickens--yeah, they're fatter and they're cheaper.

[PROGRESSIVE1]

15. "CNN IS FOX"

[w4rma]

17. CNN, Fox and Sky are all owned and operated by the right-wing. Beware.

They *will* turn on you in a heartbeat.

Heck, Sky and Fox are *both* owned by Rupert Murdoch.

[Tight_rope]

18. If that ain't the pot calling the kettle black...CNN has some nerve!

After the way CNN behave at the DNC....they shouldn't be throwing any rocks at any body.

[Tight_rope]

20. I guess the Boycott against CNN is working!

This who like watching Faux news will always watch Faux news.

[saigon68]

21. OK NOW Take your pill

Go to sleep like a nice boy.

WHO THE FUCK CAN LISTEN TO AM TALK RADIO ??????

It would take a full frontal lobotomy!!!!!!

[rman]

22. "We don't tell them how to report"

But does someone tell what to report, and what not to report?

"They are carefull to phrase the things they say so that it is litteraly true, just misleading." - Krugman

[stevebreeze]

24. another source on media wars......

After exposure to countless similar stories published since January 2002, when Fox was reported to have surpassed CNN in the Nielsen ratings, one might naturally conclude that Fox has more viewers than CNN.

But it's not true. On any given day, more people typically tune to CNN than to Fox.

So what are the media reports talking about? With few exceptions, stories about the media business report a single number for ratings (often expressed two different ways--as "points" or "share"). This number is often presented as if it were the result of a popularity contest or a democratic vote. But it is actually the average number of viewers watching a station or a show in a typical minute, based on Nielsen Media Research's monitoring of thousands of households.

more...http://www.fair.org/extra/0404/fox-ratings.html


And if you want to measure slant...also from Fair

Even as media reliance on think tanks increased in 2003, the slant in coverage toward conservative groups and away from progressives held steady. While mainstream media citations of the top 25 think tanks increased 13 percent from 2002 to 2003, right-leaning institutions received 47 percent of last year’s citations, with centrists getting 39 percent and 13 percent going to groups that leaned to the left.

The centrist Brookings Institution was once again the most widely quoted think tank, garnering almost one-sixth of total citations. Another centrist group, the Council on Foreign Relations, maintained the second spot. The Heritage Foundation, in third place, was the most widely quoted conservative think tank. The progressive Economic Policy Institute was the seventh-most-cited think tank, the best showing by a left-leaning institution since the survey started in 1995.

The trend since the September 11 attacks has been an increase in media citations for foreign policy think tanks. With a few exceptions, conservative and centrist foreign policy groups logged impressive gains in mainstream exposure in 2003. Even the left-leaning Center for Defense Information (CDI) had a marked increase in attention, though this was attributable almost entirely to newspaper coverage; CDI was largely invisible in the radio and television transcripts, with only 95 citations.





more here

http://www.fair.org/extra/0405/think-tank.html