South Carolina Could Be Destination for Christian Exodus

[Jester_11218]

State of Grace - South Carolina Could Be Destination for Christian Exodus - The goal is to bring enough voters to the state to establish a government based on the Ten Commandments and conservative Christian values. - And if the federal government doesn't like it, Burnell said he and the other members of the board have not ruled out the possibility of the state seceding from the United States.
- TVNL Comment: The American Taliban. Radical religion taking over governments.

Link: http://abcnews.go.com/sections/US/GoodMorningAmerica/christian_exodus_040812-1.html

Posted here too:
http://www.tvnewslies.org/news/#domestic

[beyurslf]

1. Might I suggest a few other states that could join them?

Utah? We could all have a party and wish them well.

Our first plan of action is to get out our Dem's and then build a large wall around the state. :)

[AlinPA]

6. The south and central PA have a lot of candidates.

[saskatoon]

65. WHAT ABOUT TEXAS

lots of nuts there

[efhmc]

82. And there are millions who are not, Thank you very much for the

suggestion. Where do you live?

[Born Free]

87. Pennsylvania Dutch Country is bush terror-tory

Although they may not agree with bush team's mass murder of innocent people for reasons no one can pinpoint, although they know the economy is in a desperate situation, they know America is on the wrong track , they still vote for the bush team because of their beliefs in God and bush says he is from God. Naturally they throw out all reason and common sense because they believe bush is God's choice. Although they are good people for the most part, I wish they would move to SC, I wish all these right wing fanatics would move to SC, I would even support SC seceding from the union so these fanatics can have their own country based on religion. Perhaps the rest of us could then live in peace and prosperity.

[Bombtrack]

7. Yeah, but nobody is ever going to want to immigrate TO Utah.

If I had to go to a nutball-right state, it might be SC too. At least they have Myrtle Beach and other nice coastline communities and Port towns like Charleston. Utah just seems like a desolate wasteland.

[fishwax]

25. There's a lot of natural beauty in Utah

With great southwestern landscapes, beautiful mountain vistas and half dozen or so national parks, there is plenty of natural treasure in Utah.

Alas, there are plenty of religious zealots as well.

[Swamp Rat]

49. Nope. Utah is beautiful with lots of national parks and great skiing.

I lived there for three years. The reason I left was because I missed the decadence (and the great food and music) of my hometown New Orleans. Mormons are STARVING for sexual release; they need a MArdi Gras.

[jdj]

106. yes, just saw Bryce and Zion NP on OLN last night.

I was stunned, I had never heard of either.

And the country's largest no-kill animal shelter, "Best Friends" in in Angel Canyon in Utah.

[Jester_11218]

10. Texas is big enough.

They tossed out the Constitution in favor of the Bible anyway. Let them have Texas.

[Tight_rope]

46. Yes...I live here and they can have this damn state...just let me know

so I can high tail it outta here.

[Swamp Rat]

51. Come to New Orleans!

Or go to San Francisco, another great city.

[Career Prole]

68. Ditto! n/t

[TaleWgnDg]

93. oh, please, include this guy w/ them too . . .

okay? indeed. Include Mitt Romney (a present or former bishop in the Mormon faith, and present or former head of the Mormon faith in the northeast) who is the governor of Massachusetts! :bounce:

[Bombtrack]

2. If they can draw most of the nuts out of NC, VA, GA, and TN it could

really help America in the long run.

[HereSince1628]

101. Yes bait them into a roach motel and spray RAID anti-fundamentalist

spray on them...

Well, it might sound funny, but it also sounds surprisingly like Nazi-reactionism, and somewhat undeserving of the thoughts of Democrats and progressives...

If the fundies want to move to be together allowing them to attempt to control local and state government I say let them try.

I know one group in particular that has more or less sucessfully tried such thing...but the Carolinas are not the uncivilized "Deseret" the Mormons colonized. Establishing a fundamentalist protestant secessionist state in the Carolinas would be an historic and remarkable accomplishment...that marked the end of the Union.

Imagine the barriers they could erect after displacing their infidel predecessors on the landscape.

[MaryH]

3. Poor South Carolina

Maybe they could find an island somewhere to populate with like-minded persons.

They could all go back to 1750, dress all in black, and learn to embroider Scarlet Letters on their bodices. They could all get together and reinstitute the inquisition - but just among themselves.

Living here in the Bible Belt I can tell you I am getting sick of all the loud "Praise the Lords" and "Praise Jesus"!

[Tight_rope]

47. Alcatraz is a wonderful island. I say we give it to them for "FREE"!

[jdj]

105. Abbeville County, home of Lake Secession, will be their capitol.

I lived in SC for 4 years, was stunned at what a wonderful state park system they have. It is awesome! Last thing I expected to find there. SC is really a beautiful state, and actually, I prefer it to NC (with the huge exception of Asheville). SC is more working class, which is good, whereas NC is so middle class xtian pukenacious it is almost hard to breathe in some areas.

[Imalittleteapot]

4. Darn. Probably not enough room in South Carolina

for all of the conservative Christians in Texas to migrate there

[liberalpragmatist]

5. Good. Let them.

I've sometimes thought, wouldn't it be great if the United States just let them have not even a whole state - maybe just a few counties. I say, give them about a handful of contiguous counties along the South Carolina Coast, and let them secede. (I know, it's impossible, but I can dream, can't I?).

I oppose secession in principle, but if Congress approves? And the rest of SC could stay within the Union (I mean, there are plenty of good people in SC, that's why I'm just saying a few counties). Christian conservatives would desert in droves. It could be an autonomous theocracy akin to Greece's something-can't-remember-the-name autonomous peninsula of totally independent monasteries. Greece just handles all the foreign affairs and defense. We could do the same -basically an independent US protectorate for all the Christian fascists.

Oh, and we'd give any citizen from the place asylum if they wanted to leave.

[Jack from Charlotte]

15. There are a few drawbacks to this "Christian Ghetto" idea.....

Since I live on The SC border in Charlotte, would I have to go around SC in order to get to my beloved Florida? It would increase travel times greatly.

Would I need a passport to enter Christo-Fascia?

Just a guess here but I'd think The African-American population in SC, which is considerable, would be a little nervous over living in Christo-Fascia.

If it's just going to be a few counties I'd hope it's over near the Georgia border somewhere.

[liberalpragmatist]

20. Yeah, that's sort of what I was thinking

A few contiguous counties, maybe along the state's southeastern corner, but not including Charleston. I dunno. Others are probably more familiar with SC geography that I am.

I realize what I'm posting is ridiculous and will never happen. And there are probably a million and a half good reasons not to (i.e. all interest groups demanding a tiny chunk). Still, I can dream, can't I?

[saigon68]

41. Christo-Fascia residents could STRING UP A FEW "DARKIES"

To celebrate their heritage </sarcasm>

[Career Prole]

71. Just put a Jesus statue on the dashboard...

...they'll wave you through the checkpoints. :eyes:

[jdj]

107. Dear Jack, I'm just 20 min from SC in Monroe.

The NAACP is still boycotting the tourism industry over the confed. flag.

More African Americans came into the U.S. from SC than any other state.

This guy sounds like a Klan member hiding behind the bible.

[Victimerican]

24. why the coast? I like the SC coast!

I say we give them Jersey instead ;p

[liberalpragmatist]

37. Oh, not the entire coast

Just maybe two or three counties somewhere in some rural, disadvantaged area.

Personally, I'd be more than willing to give this Fundie-Fascist ghetto federal funds - even generous ones. If it's relatively rich and contented, they're less likely to leave and cause trouble for everybody else or cause other problems.

[SayitAintSo]

76. Greenville, Spartanburg and North Augusta - best bets

They are mostly wing nuts anyway - that would get Bob Jones University :bounce:

[blindpig]

96. most, but not all bucko

you would make me a refugee, or dead? Thanks alot.

[SayitAintSo]

104. "Get over it Bucko...."

and You are welcome.... (it was tongue and cheek sweetie ...)

[Florida_Geek]

8. Like there is a LOT of JOBS

in South Carolina.......

What are these ppl planning to do for work...

Just asking....

[MountainLaurel]

12. Da Lawd will provide n/t

[Tight_rope]

48. LOL...Bingo!

[liberalpragmatist]

32. Wrong reply

Never mind. Replied to the wrong message.

[trogdor]

43. Especially when the Army shuts down Fort Jackson.

Does anyone have an idea how many people are employed by DoD's largest training installation and sends all the soldiers elsewhere? You're in for a heap of trouble right there.

How about all those brand spanking new highways around Columbia? Think the state can maintain those by itself?

How about the likelyhood that SC would be anything other than yet another Third World shithole once anyone with more than two synapses to rub together flees? What are you left with? A bunch of Bible-thumping brainwashed rednecks with guns. Scary thought.

[Rockholm]

119. There was an article recently in "The State" newspaper

in Columbia listing unemployment by county, THere are some counties in SC with 20% unemployment.

[ima_sinnic]

9. yes, let them create their own little hell on earth

--ironic, isn't it?

[GoneOffShore]

11. No coastal areas

No part of the Federal Highway system, no protection, no Federal aid at all.
And if they secede, high tariffs and strict border controls. They don't want anyone in, we don't want them out.

[jdj]

108. No postal service, even.

Is this where WE get to start slapping on bumper stickers that say "America, Love it or Leave It?"

I think we will see more of this, and I can't wait. It's amazing to me that ABC news is covering this with a 5-PAGE story, when real news doesn't even merit a paragraph. I read the whole story, they are affiliated with League of the South, which Southern Poverty Law lists as a hate group

"The only Southern nationalist organization I have found with an ETI is the South Carolina League of the South, which, according to state director Robert Hayes, is determined to be free of the union within 20 years," the posting says. "I think we can move this date closer to the present with a managed emigration." According to an article in a recent issue of Intelligence Report, the Southern Poverty Law Center's journal on hate groups, there are higher concentrations of "antigovernment extremists" in parts of South Carolina than anywhere else in the United States, other than parts of the Ozarks and northern Idaho."

[JoFerret]

13. There are lots of Christians in Darfur

who would love to move to SC. Ditto the Iraqi Christians currently under threat.

[NuttyFluffers]

14. cool, centralize before secession.

makes cleaning them up in any potential civil war a lot easier. all bunched together in a tight spot with their backs against the coast, makes finishing them off much easier. i wish them all the best, and maybe the smart South Carolinians will get to them before any of these people get some wise ideas about secession.

[rube]

16. Excellent idea!

Let em go; I have no use for em.

[Zorra]

17. Great idea. I hope every fundie christianist in the country moves there.

I feel bad for the people of SC that believe in democratic government though.

[kayell]

39. Thanks, thanks a whole lot...

/heavy sarcasm

[veracity]

18. Can't we declare the Civil War 'lost' by the north....?

It's time we call a reversal, and let the entire south secede. We'll take in all loyal Americans who want to stay with the rest of the Union....and let them fend for themselves. No big loss, trust me.

[Bridget Burke]

28. And let all those uppity ex-slaves return their former status.

You'd be really happy with that, wouldn't you.

They ain't making Yankees like General Sherman any more.

[NJGeek]

34. Aww come on, thats a low blow

The guy was just saying that we don't really need the South (The Red States). I don't think he meant to reverse slavery.

[jdj]

109. That is the unspoken part in this story.

When I was in NC I was stunned at how many people talked openly about loving vacationing in Charleston. Not the beach areas, but the downtown, the plantations, etc. Same with Savannah. I can't stomach these areas, all I see is blood.

[GoddessOfGuinness]

62. It would be a grave loss...

What about the loyal democrats who live there? Why should they be forced out of their homes?

If there's one thing we must not tolerate in this country, it's intolerance. Sorry, but to live in a free country, people need to deal with diversity in everything from race to religion to sexual orientation.

Liberals should stage a counter exodus to SC, just to send the message to these arrogant, purported Christians that religious bigotry is not part of the American dream.

[Arianrhod]

117. Fundamentalists cannot change their minds

nor can they "deal with diversity". Their humanity has been smothered by the depth of ignorance into which they have joyfully plunged.

[tekriter]

19. Yeah, secession worked soooo good the last time, didn't it?

I highly recommend everyone read "The Handmaid's Tale" by Margaret Atwood.

[MindPilot]

23. Yes! READ it --- then see the movie; there's much more than can go on film

The whole time I was reading that when it was first published, I kept thinking "how did the country get to that point?" Now I'm living it. Fuck.

[napi21]

21. I'm not surprised at all. I lived in Greenville SC for 6 years,

and we had an employee who traveled with her church group (originally from Ohio) to different places to join with "like minded Christians". She worked for us for about 2 years, and one day gave her 2 week notice and said the group was moving on to somewhere else. She was a very quiet person, and did her job very well. She was just really quiet, stuck to herself, and dressed like the 50's with mid-calf length skirts (never pants!), always blouse necklines closed up to the neck, and old lady sandals. I'd bet this group is or has already moved to a state where they can help shrub win in Nov.

[2Design]

45. tell me about greenville, sc

when did you live there?
is is pretty and lakes?
Will I hate the rw?
Are there enough other types there?
what years were you there?
cultural events?
outing clubs?
other?

[KoKo]

61. It's very pretty and has some lakes and is close to the mountains and

has a high influx of "Multi-National Retirees" along with other business.

[jdj]

110. yes. I worked for a German/Japanese company.

Also French-owned companies there. It is common to be in the supermarket and hear three foreign languages being spoken, including the hispanic population. So many factories mean many, many engineers and mid-level managers of mult-nationals. Clemson University is about 40(?) miles away, as is Lake Hartwell, huge man-made lake. I liked Greenville, but you just have to pick up on people's xtian undercurrents. I loved the gay people I met there, they were ALL from New York, I had two friends who moved there for chiropractic school, two who moved to be with sick parents. Honestly, I am outside of Charlotte now, and I think the fundies in Greenville are more bearable. But it may just be because I left SC in 2000, maybe Bush is making all the fundies more obnoxious. But there seemed to be more diversity in Greenville, actually, because larger black population, and larger working class.

[indypaul]

22. I believe when South Carolina

seceded from the Union in 1861 one state assembleyman who
opposed secession said "South Carolina was to small to be
a soverign nation yet too large to be an insane asylum."
Perhaps times have changed, take your pick.

[ksatriyakiller]

26. southerners are patriotic?

yeah right.

[comsymp]

35. Speaking as a Southerner, yeah, right.

And welcome to DU-

:evilfrown:

[Tight_rope]

50. Welcome to DU ksatriyakiller!

[QC]

113. Pity that one of your first posts

would be an idiotic, knuckledragging piece of shit like this one.

Yep, we can expect great things from you alright. :eyes:

[KamaAina]

27. I knew I overslept last night. I wake up and it's 1861.

Burnell said he and the other members of the board have not ruled out the possibility of the state seceding from the United States.

Wasn't that the plot of a Ken Burns movie? Oh, wait a minute, that was a documentary...

In the words of the immortal Yogi Berra, "It's like deja vu all over again."

[DeepModem Mom]

30. Oh, my dear God -- I just went to dinner in another time zone...

and came home to Fort Sumter redux, and NJ Governor McGreevey involved in blackmail and a resignation. Did I have too much to drink, or is this for real???

[Barret]

29. It would never happen

The US constitution requires that every state have a republican form of government. If they established a theocracy the federal govenment could do something about it...

[coloradodem2005]

31. Bush would probably try to follow suit.

A better man than Bush would try to do something about it.

[KamaAina]

33. Can't we just get them a desert island somewhere?

Or an ice floe in the Arctic?

How about a nice rocky asteroid? We could call the spaceship the "Rapture". :-)

[comsymp]

36. Can't believe ABC is just getting around to this- was posted here

months ago.

[FlaGranny]

38. I would say that's great EXCEPT there are

some very good people in South Carolina who might wind up in a Spanish-type inquisition or be forced to move. How much more deluded can these folks become?

[MallRat]

40. Please, please do it. You'll make the electoral college a slamdunk for us.

And, if that weren't enough, the exodus of religious ultraconservative voters from all the other Southern states would probably give the Democrats an 8-12 seat advantage in the Senate as well.

Of course, we'd have to cope with a South Carolina House delegation of about 38 members, but we'd find a way around it. :-)

-MR

[Corgigal]

42. GOOD

They can buy my house and I'm SOOOO gone. Just waiting for the kids to get through HS anyway. Might ask DU to set up a moving u-haul fund. Jersey here I come.

[Chelsea Patriot]

63. Hey, Corgigal! My Pug and I Met a Beautiful Pembroke today!

Black and White, with a beautiful tail!

You took on some Anti-NYC asshole on one of the first threads on which I posted. You were great! You read the loser for the piece of shit that he was! Once a NYCer always a NYCer! Hope you and any, and all, corgis get back up here soon!

Pembroke or Welsh?

[Corgigal]

78. My Pembroke is red and white

and her hubby to be is black and white. I hope she's gets lucky this fall and we have cute puppies to play with.

I don't remember which anti-NYC person it was. I read so many but I get tired of their crap. Everyone knows that NYC is where we live in a higher civilized plane. However thank you.

[JNelson6563]

44. Bwaaahaaaahaaaaa!!!!!!

Lunatics! They want theocracy!

Secede! LOL!!!!

Julie

[Tight_rope]

52. THEY CAN HAVE TEXAS...IT'S AWAY FROM ANY PLACE IMPORTANT!

To be honest...I think the best thing would be for them to all move to Texas. Many of them already live here. It's big enough for all of the christian sicko's. Bush can be their president and Dick and stay the VP and all the Buscho can just relocate and take over in their same places. That away they don't have to give up power....LOL...sorta speak. The only thing we be missing is Shamoo the wale in Sea World. Think about it. We don't have to worry about having to drive though because it's not in the middle of to states. It's out of the way unless you are heading for Mexico. Hell, I live here and I'm willing to let them have it. As one person said, just let me know and I'm soooo outta here. I hate Houston and I hate this state anyway. I would spit on the ground and say good riddings.

[Jack from Charlotte]

58. I like the idea of giving them Texas.... then, perhaps Mexico

could go get their territory back. I'd love the idea of Mexico taking it back.

[Bridget Burke]

67. If you hate Texas so much, don't wait. Leave right now.

We have no room for people who are not willing to fight.

Let me guess--you need to finish high school first.

[autorank]

73. Send them to Jones town!

Like some Cool Aide? Ummm, tastes good (riddance).

[Tight_rope]

79. Actually after living here for 24+ years...........

not as a child, I "KNOW" that I'm highly qualified to speak on giving up Texas to them and you.

[QC]

114. Why stay in a place you hate for 24 years?

Life is too short to make yourself miserable like that.

[progressivebydesign]

53. Hmmm.. how about Guatanamo? I hear it's near the beach. N/T

[screembloodymurder]

54. Christian terrorists!

Off with their heads.

[GreatCaesarsGhost]

55. apparently the fundies haven't heard

about the un-exploded nuclear bomb in charleston harbor.

[Tellurian]

56. A site for non-republican detainees, if I recall correctly, is in S.C..

there was a thread on DU not too long ago, addressing strategic plans drawn up and ready to implement by the Bush Administration if Martial Law becomes a reality. Bush loyalists will be carded and dissidents will be arrested and shipped off to the designated detainee center (for the east coast) in S. Carolina for processing...

Two sites I gleaned from that thread are here:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/pages/camps.html

and

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread5241/pg1

[JPace]

57. o.k. so lets say they take over South Carolina....

and adopt state laws based on Christian values....now
just what kind of laws will everyone have to live by?
I can think of a few,

1) No sex before marriage
2) No abortion ever, even if the mother drops dead because of it.
3) No birth control?
4) No gay relationships
5) No shopping on Sunday
6) Women will be subservient to their husbands
7) ?

[Tellurian]

60. How anyone can believe the BS this guy is selling is beyond me!

First of all, how could waves of 10,000 to 12,000 people migrate to one area all at one time...Am I to believe they will have synchronized 10-12,000 real estate transactions at once?

What about the strain on city and town services? Are these people all adults or will there be thousands of children deluging the schools.

I don't believe this cracked pot for a minute...migrating in waves- huh? Maybe they are the jailers recruited to guard American citizens who do not fit the Republican profile.

[DavidMS]

59. I only have one question:

What Would General Sherman Do?

[Bridget Burke]

69. He'd do just what he did before--a bit of updating needed!

Bring the good old bugle, boys! we’ll sing another song
Sing it with a spirit that will start the world along.
Sing it as we used to sing it, fifty thousand strong,
While we were marching through Georgia.

“Hurrah! Hurrah! we bring the Jubilee!
Hurrah! Hurrah! the flag that makes you free!”
So we sang the chorus from Atlanta to the sea,
While we were marching through Georgia.

Yes, and there were Union men who wept with joyful tears,
When they saw the honor’d flag they had not seen for years;
Hardly could they be restrained from breaking forth in cheers,
While we were marching through Georgia.

“Hurrah! Hurrah! we bring the Jubilee!
Hurrah! Hurrah! the flag that makes you free!”
So we sang the chorus from Atlanta to the sea,
While we were marching through Georgia.

“Sherman’s dashing Yankee boys will never reach the coast!”
So the saucy rebels said, and ’twas a handsome boast,
Had they not forgot, alas! to reckon with the host,
While we were marching through Georgia.

“Hurrah! Hurrah! we bring the Jubilee!
Hurrah! Hurrah! the flag that makes you free!”
So we sang the chorus from Atlanta to the sea,
While we were marching through Georgia.

So we made a thoroughfare for Freedom and her train,
Sixty miles in latitude three hundred to the main;
Treason fled before us, for resistance was in vain,
While we were marching through Georgia.

“Hurrah! Hurrah! we bring the Jubilee!
Hurrah! Hurrah! the flag that makes you free!”
So we sang the chorus from Atlanta to the sea,
While we were marching through Georgia.

www.stephen-foster-songs.de/Amsong32.htm

[Carolina]

90. LOL

I live in SC via marriage. Lots of good people here, many Dems, too. But fuck it, if this state as a whole goes any more fundie, I have no problem leaving; and may the next generation of Shermans show these idiots some shock and awe!

[xultar]

64. They can have Texas, Mississippi, & West Virginia too. n/t

[Bridget Burke]

70. So, what's your state?

Are you ashamed of putting it in your profile?

[Name removed]

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[LeftyChristian]

84. You have got to be kidding

She is a freeper because she is defending Texas? To which part of the Big Tent do Texans belong? Back near the bathrooms, right? I guess Texans should just be quiet and let the bashing continue, since ALL of the sterotypes are true about ALL Texans! After all we are all dubya lovin', gun totin', bible beatin', sister kissin' hillbillies. I think I'll stick around and fight for the Texas Democratic party.

[Bridget Burke]

85. Sheila Jackson Lee is my representative.

Who's yours?

And how is finding this periodic secession discussion nonsensical a disruption?

[QC]

116. Barbara Jordan was from Houston.

So much for your political theorizing.

Perhaps you should just run along now and let the grownups talk.

[reprobate]

66. If we all prayed hard enough, could we start the rapture for them?

Problem solved. And more room for the rest of us.

[Lizzie Borden]

74. After all, we'd be doing them a favor...

.

[Vogon_Glory]

72. If The Fundies Secede...

If these fundies want to secede, I'm almost inclined to let them. But I oppose giving them the kid-glove treatment.

Fortify the borders with the breakaway territory with razor wire and land mines. Build highway and railroad bypasses around the breakaway state's frontiers and charge sky-high tolls for passing through. Don't give the secessionists most favored nation trade status. Leave them wide open to lawsuits for lost properties taken from loyal Americans. Not only force those lunatics to produce a valid passport to enter the United States, but force any non-refugees to apply for tourist or working visas and charge them the same rates as other countries in the Americas. Slap on the same trade and travel restrictions as the ones on Cuba.

Good riddance to bad rubbish.

[Shallah Kali]

77. Good! Let the Christian moderates get a good look at these people

and their crazyness. Maybe then they will stop believing people like Bush who claim they are Christian and so blindly support him. I would say let them have South Carolina execpt for all the moderates and libs would be suffering because of them. I hope they go for it and get more exposure for their idiocy. The Christian religion is not immune to nutjobs any more than Islam is or any other religion. Look at the fundy Mormon groups in Utah, Arizona and Texas who marry off girls to much older men including relatives and kick out the young boys so the men won't have competition ICK {{{{{shudder}}}}}}

[HarveyBriggs]

83. What's more.

After we let them secede, we can nuke 'em and let God sort them out!

South Carolina is downwind from the rest of us anyway.

General Sherman would be proud.

"Hey you, with the stars and bars and bible: catch!"

Harvey Briggs

[SayitAintSo]

75. SC - "Too small for a republic, too large for a an insane asylum..."

Those were the wise words of Judge Petigru in 1860, one of the thin voices of sanity that opposed the South Carolina secession plan ultimately spawning the confederacy. South Carolina was called the "the Palmetto Republic", before formation of the confederacy.

Judge Pettigru's words still ring sadly true .... Although there is a growing number that would dispute his claim that we are to large to be an insane asylum....

[DemoTex]

81. BoJo country

We don't need "them" or want "them" in SC. My brother-in-law is an ultra-fundy, bo-jo type, PCA minister in the Upstate area. We don't talk too much (they "home-school" their children). We are too decadent for them. Great!

[Cerridwen]

86. I'd like to offer up some land . . .

out near Yucca Mountain.

[shimmergal]

94. Yeah, but do we want them that close to LV?

'Course Sin City would serve as their safety valve, just as Nevada has always been a getaway destination for the Utah inhabitants over the border.

[Cerridwen]

103. Sure, right next to Sin City

And we would recognize them by their radioactive glow.

</intensely dark sarcasm>

[AspenRose]

88. What they are proposing isn't Biblical

Christ explicitly said "go into all the world...."
Not "go and wall yourselves off and start your own little theocracy."

[kayell]

89. Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's and to God the things that a

And Jesus answering said unto them, Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's and to God the things that are God's.

Too bad they don't bother to actually read what the guy they named themselves after had to say.

[kwolf68]

99. You didnt think

It was about the Bible and Christ did you?

They hide behind Christ and the Bible…This move is to get away from gypsies, gays, blacks, communists, Democrats, moderate Republicans, people who want to protect the environment, people who love peace.

[leesa]

91. Can't they go farther away?

Maybe if they all prayed real hard they could get the Rapture to come earlier. I'm counting on that to get them the hell out of here.

[Francine Frensky]

92. Why does S. Carolina have the most pornographic billboards?

If anybody has ever driven thru S. Carolina on I-85, they know exactly what I'm talking about.

When they get rid of those billboards, then I'll know they are serious about religion. Until then, I say they are nothing but hypocrites.

[silverweb]

95. I do NOT understand these people.

Why can't they just concentrate on their existing communities of faith and be supportive of their self-inflicted repression and isolation that way? The Amish and Mennonites have managed to remain apart from the modern, secular world quite nicely for many years. The Mormons are a very insular society in their own way -- not just in Utah, either. Many Orthodox Jews as well as American Black Muslims and Arabic Moslems have their own little insular communities and schools. I'm sure there are many more examples that I'm missing of religiously insular communities living peacefully within the secular structure of the United States.

What makes these fundies so "special" that they need a whole state (and possibly country) of their own? What makes them so unique that they need to take over an entire geographical region and isolate themselves so thoroughly?

Is exposure to the real world that scary? Are they really prepared to "go it alone," with all that that entails? Somehow I think they're simpleminded in this respect. How far do they think they'll get with their so-called sovereignty if the long-term consequences of their anti-science, anti-intellectual, and anti-freedom beliefs are translated into actual practice in the 21st Century?

I just don't get them at all.

:shrug:

[Noodleboy13]

97. They could call it Gilead

And just be done with it.

Do these people ever listen to themselves? :shrug:

Seriously, they've all got some serious irony deficiency.




Yeeehawwww,
Noodleboy

[LeftHander]

98. WHo is unamerican now.....? (nt)

[Libs Bite Back]

100. A fundamentalist is a fundamentalist is a fundamentalist

and they all are dangerous no matter what their religion. My greatest fear for my children is that within the next 20 years there will be some kind or religious war inside the US, and terrorists will have to take a number.
http://www.liberalsbiteback.com

[blindpig]

102. to all of those who say"good, let em have SC" (or Texas)

Let's send them to your home instead. Sure we've got far more than our fair share of assholes, but is that any reason to throw our large black population, liberal carpetbaggers(like me!), yellow dawgs and leftbent rednecks down the tubes? Would you dispossess me, make me a refugee or a corpse? Please engage your brains before running your mouths.

[QC]

115. Well, we have this discussion every week or two.

It's just a chance for self-righteous asswipes to preen themselves on how wonderfully superior they are to the Great Unwashed somewhere else. Yeah, it's annoying, but why deny such miserable, spiteful little people their sole pleasure in life?

[foo_bar]

111. could be?

[Gyre]

112. And then we can put up razor-wire around the whole state!

Problem solved.:)

Gyre

[Shallah Kali]

118. Christian Exodus website

http://www.christianexodus.org/