Bush Says Kerry 'More Heroic' for Going to Vietnam

[cosmicone]

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20040828/us_nm/campaign_bush_heroism_dc&e=1&ncid=

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Bush (news - web sites) on Saturday described John Kerry (news - web sites)'s tour of duty in Vietnam as more heroic than his own service in the Air National Guard, saying his Democratic rival had been "in harm's way."

But the president told NBC's "Today Show" that both sides should drop the debate over their wartime service, saying, "I think that we ought to move beyond the past. ... The real question is who best to lead us forward."

Asked if he believed that he and Kerry "served on the same level of heroism," Bush replied, "No, I don't. I think him going to Vietnam was more heroic than my flying fighter jets. He was in harm's way and I wasn't."

Excerpts of the interview, conducted on Saturday for broadcast on Monday, were released by NBC.

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hahahahahaha - now that the heat from the smearboat attacks has made him uncomfortable, he thinks kissing ass will help!

[Carni]

1. Well I guess lol

Did someone drop W on his head?

[henslee]

27. Too little, too late... Gotta give him credit. When he gets his Demille

close up, he sure knows how to be Mr. self-deprication.

[jimshoes]

2. Now how about a public disavowal of the SBVT

then lets move on.

[annxburns]

3. Sorry Chimpinator ...

You smear - you fear and pay the consequences. You can't take a cheap shot at an opponent and then say "Oh come now, let's not fight".

You sucker punched Kerry and now you deserve to get your a** handed to you.

And we and the press all know that this is how you and Rove smear. Put it out there, let it fester, and then call a truce.


Too late smear boy. We got your fake medals and your dress-up right here.

[madmax]

4. Wonder how the freepers will spin this little tidbit

:bounce:

On second thought, bet they don't post it.

[sistersofmercy]

24. Here's how...

The dumbasses will say it took a real man to stand up and say that. They're so f***ing predictable in their responses to bushit*. They fail to see that behind his little admission is really an elitist "I got by without serving so f***ing what" attitude by this "war pResident" (major sarcasm)

[mrbassman03]

34. No, this just means Bush is a hero as well...

See, Bush was just admitting that Kerry taking enemy fire and being, you know, brave and all made him a bigger hero. But I guess it takes a REAL hero to admit that someone else is a hero, so that in turn makes Bush the bigger hero in the end (?)

[Liberal Veteran]

5. Now it all starts to come into focus....I know Rove's plan.

It's to make Bush look like an honest guy who really supports our veterans by having him play this way.

[madmax]

15. Will it work?

He wouldn't come out and condemn the ad.

[gristy]

19. Too little, too late.

If Bush were to start playing the game straight up, admitting his mistakes in going into Iraq, failing to pursue Osama, forcing the Pharma Windfall Bill through congress, etc, etc, etc, he'd get about 30% of the popular vote in November. He simply HAS to try to keep up the charade, though his hand was forced in this SBV4B broohaha.

[Nite Owl]

6. Oh sure, now that we got the goods

on him and his phoney medals and soemone to admit that he got favoritism getting into TANG we should stop.

[The_Casual_Observer]

7. When did that bastard ever fly a "fighter jet'?

this boob can't stop telling lies. That obsolete piece of shit he supposedly flew could hardly be considered a "fighter jet"

[peacetalksforall]

8. Flying fighter jets....he said...

"...more heroic than my flying fighter jet."

Do you call that an exaggeration or a stretch of phrasing.

It implies he was fighting.

Guess we have to let the privileged and protected kid brag.

[MGKrebs]

9. Many of you know I was not a Kerry fan during the primaries,

But I must say, I am fascinated watching the Kerry team at work. They really do seem to be making all the right moves. I am now looking forward to see how they react to this. It's like a giant chess game.

[warrior1]

10. Sounds like

he just indorsed John Kerry for President.

[JerseygirlCT]

11. Backpedaling so fast he's going to fall over!

Why doesn't everyone see right through him? He's completely transparent!

[LiberalCat]

12. Another *bush angle:

exerpt: But the president told NBC's "Today Show" that both sides should drop the debate over their wartime service, saying, "I think that we ought to move beyond the past. ... The real question is who best to lead us forward."

In other words, both sides should drop the debate because his side already attacked Kerry's record with lies and he doesn't want anyone to attack his record with the truth.

They always play this game. They play dirty and then declare that everyone should play nice.

I say, since his side brought up the subject of the service, then his service (or lack thereof) is fair game.

[daleo]

13. Spin - saying Kerry was "more heroic", which implies chimp was a hero too

Just a little less of a hero. It is like Bush admitting that Shakespeare was "more brilliant" than him, or Einstein was "a greater genius".

[annxburns]

18. Lol! Your right, how was Bush heroic by

getting some poor kid to fight in his place?

My Dad was in the NG, he volunteered to join the army in 1957 when he got out of HS. The army rejected him at that time because of a knee injury. He then went to work and started a family but he served in the NG till 1967. He was from a dirt poor family of 9 kids and noone ever gave him any breaks.

MY DAD SERVED HONORABLY IN THE NG. He showed up. He was called out to the Detroit riots. He never missed a weekend.

George Bush DID NOT serve honorably. He used the NG as a out for Vietnam and then he did not show up. What he did was not heroic but unheroic.

[leesa]

14. What tour of service was that, you POS?

[Paradise]

16. * doesn't do anything unless it's self-serving! n/t

[PA Democrat]

17. Yes, Bush wants to "move beyond the past" now that Kerry's been smeared

and before his own pathetic military record is brought to light. Yes, W wants to move on quickly before the record is set straight. How noble!

[Dogmudgeon]

20. Let's not be too hard on the dear boy

After all, he's telling the truth about the situation. We should be "reinforcing" him for doing so.

Besides, there are still plenty of things we can hammer him on.

--bkl
Kinder. Gentler. Just like Ex-Lax.

[jefferson_dem]

21. I was fully expecting this to be a faux story

but whatdoyouknow. There's chimpy "thinking" on his feet and putting one in his mouth at the same time. Talk about unhinged. The guys freaking reeling. No mercy. No pity. Let 'em dangle.

[Enraged_Ape]

22. Monkey's off his meds again

I'm sure Rove and Poppy sure appreciate this slip of the tongue. Looks like Chimpy's got another beating in his near future--disguised, of course, as another bike/pretzel/jogging accident.

[LoZoccolo]

23. Other headline: "Strategist Rove Admitted for Severe Aneurism"

Subtitle: "Sunspot radiation may be to blame for presidential earpiece interference."

[Viking12]

25. Geez George, you're pullin my leg....

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x784362

[Gingergal]

26. What's going on is that former Lt. Gov. Ben Barnes

was shown stating he got bush into Texas National Guard over plain folk Texans!! This is big. Then Greg Palast writes that Barnes kept quiet in 1994 helping bush get elected to Tx. Gov. Then bush helps Ben Barnes client (Barnes by then was a lobbyist) keep a very big contract with the Texas Lottery. That was the payoff.
I have to Defend Barnes. He will be viciously attacked by the bushies. He is an ACTIVE Democrat in Texas and very big fundraiser. Unlike others , he did not defect to the repukes.
This is why bush wants to get off the VN subject. The tables have turned.

[Disturbed]

29. More heoric?

What did Dumbass do that was in the least heroic?

This is pathetic.

What has this Dumbass done to deserve any merit at all?

Standing up on rubble after three days of doing nothing and spout some BS about how Amerika will bring the evil doers to justice is being the War Pres.?

[alcuno]

28. Thanks, but let's not drop the debate about wartime service.

The thing about the attacks on McCain is that there wasn't enough time for the truth to gel in peoples' minds. With this coming to a head in August, there's lots of time for the truth to seep out.

[madmax]

30. He's worried Kerry will rip him a new one at the debates.

Which I'm sure Kerry intends to do anyway. :bounce:

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

31. OK, OK he is a bona fide war hero...

Can we change the subject now, before we all look too closely at my "hero" status...implying his flying fighter jets in TANG had given him an aura of Vietnam era service. Gagging, choking, regurgitating...this is a subversive maneuver by of KKKarl Rove. MKJ

:puke:

[AmandaRuth]

32. ok fine, but I still want to know who

washed your drivers license.....and why? You are your camp (don't deny it) opened the discussion into the long ago past..... Well, I'm waiting.....

[truthisfreedom]

33. thanks, mr. bush, and to continue: America needs a hero at the helm in

this new time of administration-created crisis.

[fob]

35. It was just on the late news as I was reading this thread and that fucker

takes a slight sideways glance directly into the camera and shakes his head "no" while saying that Kerry served honorably. What a fucking prick, he is incapable of ACTUALLY telling a pure unadulterated TRUE statement.

Watch it and see, it's so obvious. Smarmy prick.

[Sterling]

36. They upped his meds to high.

He had a moment of chemical induced humanity. Just wait til he comes down.

[LibDemAlways]

37. "Flying fighter jets?"

How stupid does the chimp think we are? Does he expect anyone to believe that he ever flew a bona fide "fighter jet"? If he flew anything before he was grounded, it was some piece of obsolete junk.

Lie, lie, lie ...with complete confidence that the whores will lap it up and beg for more.