Keyes calls Cheney's daughter "a selfish hedonist."

[FlaIndie]

Reported on Drudge (I know, I know) but breaking:

"The essence of ... family life remains procreation. If we embrace homosexuality as a proper basis for marriage, we are saying that it's possible to have a marriage state that in principal excludes procreation and is based simply on the premise of selfish hedonism."

At least we have here a Repub who is willing to show his true colors.

More on it from the Chicago Times:

Keyes' first comments about Mary Cheney came during an interview Monday night on Sirius OutQ, a New York-based satellite station that provides 24-hour gay and lesbian programming.

After Keyes told the hosts that homosexuality is "selfish hedonism," he was asked whether Mary Cheney is a "selfish hedonist."

"Of course she is," Keyes replied. "That goes by definition. Of course she is."

On Tuesday, Keyes defended his remarks, adding that if his daughter were a lesbian, he would tell her she was committing a sin and should pray about it.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-040831illinois,1,6577738.story?coll=chi-news-hed
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[wtmusic]

1. family = procreation

So all I have to do is knock someone up? Instant family?

[FlaIndie]

2. yes, they are even opponents to adoption

especially if you are gay.

[alittlelark]

4. family = procreation.

guess I should divorce huuby since he got a vasectomy FOR ME.


He was really just a selfish jerk - he probably did it so he could run off with his homosexual lover - and not worry about getting him pregnant.

[Carla in Ca]

7. Chilldless by Choice

And I guess my husband and I should kill ourselves because we didn't have kids?

[alittlelark]

9. Perhaps you should

your 'choice' was not appropriate.

PS Hi! And where in CA? I'm silicon valley.

[Carla in Ca]

15. Well,

I'll skip the first part of your post and go right to the 2nd. I'm in Orange County.

[Spinzonner]

20. Well, somebody has to do it

and you dont have kids to shorten your lives.

[Ripley]

25. What does that mean?

Do you think the planet is running out of Humans?

Do you believe that child bearing couples live longer than those who choose not to have kids?

Link?

[leesa]

31. Huh? Re-read the post.

[Ripley]

36. Huh?

and you don't have kids to shorten your life.

I guess it was sarcasm, but it's hard to tell.

[radwriter0555]

43. Guess Keyes won't be getting that choice white house appointment any time

between now and november, eh?

[rocktivity]

55. That should get his poll ratings

back up into the twenties!

:headbang:
rocknation

[Dulcinea]

56. Keyes in the only Repub nuttier than Tom DeLay.

But it's a close race.

[wackywill]

57. and more hateful....again close race.

[cboy4]

60. Can you imagine all

all of the talk between the right wing fundamentalist Christian conservative republican nuts today?!?

Christian conservative #1: "Did you hear what Keyes said about those filthy fags and Cheney's daughter? Good for him!!!"

Christian conservative #2: "YES I did! It's too bad Keyes is a nigg*r or I'd support his senate run!!"

Christian conservative #1: "I know! Unless you're white and straight and support Bush and a vision of hate and discrimination, you should pack your shit and move to another country and leave us white people alone."

:mad: :crazy: :argh: :spank: :grr:

[PartyPooper]

3. Some gays are barren. Some straights are barren.

So what about adoption? Is that hedonism? Even if couples elect not to have children...is that hedonism, too? What about selfish people who simply have children to "complete" their lives?

:-)

[Placebo]

5. I Thought the Essence of Family Life Was LOVE?

I guess I am mistaken.

If this guy thinks marriage is primareily about procreation he's more insane than I thought. Marriage is usually about money, or power, or sex, not wanting to make babies. *ahem, condoms, birth control pills, vasectomies, anyone?*

[Zorra]

6. There is a special hell created for Keyes,

and he's already there. He helped create it for himself, and the flames of his hell are fed with hatred.

It's in his heart, and in his mind.

[Hekate]

8. Keep it up, Keyes--Show everyone what a big tent the Repub Party is

I'd say "gag me" but they've already put too much effort into that!

Anyhow, by his logic, where does that leave infertile couples? And marriages of elderly widows to elderly widowers? What a crock!

Hekate

[Squeegee]

10. Cheney's reply to Keyes

"Go fuck yourself"


:)

[Nebraska_Liberal]

12. way to go keyes

Way to go Mr. Keyes, keep expressing your extremely backward views. I only wish he was a speaker at the RNC.

[Krupskaya]

23. Welcome, NL!

I'm from Nebraska (now in MN) and I like to see my home state on DU.

[GliderGuider]

26. Keyes can't do that

Fucking himself would be selfish and hedonistic...

[pbg]

11. Keyes is barrelling to the biggest victory in IL history

...Barack Obama's, that is.

I've known people like Keyes all my life: smart people who never bothered to learn how to think. They're so impressed with their own formulations that they never bother contemplating the simple question, "What if I'm wrong?"

What a waste of neurons.

[Tight_rope]

33. Yup...Keyes has shot "himself" in the back!

[ogradda]

13. I'm starting to go thru the change

dont tell any republicains

[Norquist Nemesis]

14. Welcome to DU!!!!!!!

:toast: :hi:

As an Illinoisan, one guess who my vote is going for in this race! :)

[gauguin57]

17. Yep, DAMN. I forgot to have kids.

Come to think of it, I forgot to find Mister Right. Well, damn. I've always kind of thought I was a family unto myself ... and that my siblings and their families and I were kind of a family. And that my friends and I were kind of a family. We love each other, we support each other, we'd do anything if the other members of the unit were in trouble ...

Damn. Have I been deluded all along? I was supposed to submit my uterus to the government fetus center to be a bearer of children? I never got the memo!

Gee, thanks, GOP, for letting me know. Now I can go slit my wrists.

You lying, narrow-minded BASTARDS!

[Tight_rope]

35. Welcome to DU ogradda

[gauguin57]

16. One thing about Keyes ... he's not subtle, and he tells you exactly

where he stands on the issues. No shades of gray with this guy. No sir. He lays it RIGHT ON THE LINE. No guessing.

He's straight off some southern-jiffy-pop-hair-midnight-televangelist-you're-all-going-to-hell show ... but you know where he stands.

[DaveSZ]

18. I'll never understand people like Mr. Keyes

They are against abortion, yet are unwilling to allow a loving gay couple to adopt a baby that a woman who could not keep it chose to bring to term...

[sendero]

27. People like him...

.... and there are a LOT of them, start with a superstitious belief then find an ostensible rationale to justify it. As if creating humans was in a crisis stage. Oh really.

I hope he keeps talking and gets wide coverage. His words are exactly what a large percentage of the wingnut right believe, it's just that most of them have the good sense to keep their idiot mouths shut.

[BiggJawn]

29. Yep, just like Fred Phelps......n/t

[Swamp Rat]

19. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Watch how the right wingers consume each other as they consolidate their power.

[chelsea0011]

21. Is this the "Big Tent" thing the repukes are selling

[kclown]

22. Doesn't anyone here understand the purpose of politics?

The most important function of any government official is to
brand other people with clever names.  The cleverest
name-brander is ipso facto the best-qualified to govern.

[kayell]

24. Laura and George need to split up, They are selfish hedonists

Not to mention all the other issues, but now that the twins are adults, and pickles is past the age of reproduction, it is time for them to stop this self indulgence and split up. It is only the godly thing to do.

[snippy]

28. The DNC should be using Keyes to define the republican party.

Bush and Cheney should be asked about these comments. Keyes should be seen as a huge asset to the democratic party.

[BiggJawn]

30. Well, there you go. No reason to get married if you're 50.

Italian medical science notwithstanding, if you're not gonna pop out cannon fodder for Herr Shrubbler's Holy Cause, you have no business getting married and considering yourself a "family"...

Gotta "protect" that hetero marriage for the likes of Britney "Bridezilla" Spears and J-Lo, eh?

[abburdlen]

34. SO couples like

Libby and Bob aren't really married?
Did Nancy and Ron have kids together?

[BiggJawn]

37. Yeah, but they're ReTHUGs, so they get "Special Dispensation"

As good ReTHUGs, they're working to help young poor women have LOTS of babies (by killing sex-ed programs in schools)for "The Cause"....

I'm a Democrat, so I'm just being selfish and helping Murka to "crumble"....

[GCP]

32. So has Keyes stopped having sex now that his wife is prolly too old

to have kids?

Thought not - hypocritical fascist.

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

38. Kudos to THE INTERVIEWER. S/he pushed Keyes right into the pit!

Finally someone asking the questions that should be asked!

[tuvor]

39. The essence of family life is procreation?

What, we're only here to make more of us? We're merely animals, is that what Keyes is saying?

[iam]

40. And obese people are

selfish hedonist consumers since eating is meant to sustain life. What an idiot. Conservatism is the dark black.

[gasperc]

41. is Keynes shooting for single digits

hopefully Hastert will lose his seat in this debacle

[barb162]

51. oh, would that be wonderful

can't stand Hastert either!

[gatlingforme]

42. Just the type of guy I want in the senate representing me LOL GO

REPUBLICANS

[LincolnMcGrath]

44. Mr. Keyes, keep expressing your backassward views

Will this douche bag get anywhere near as many votes as Gary Coleman did out there in Cali?

[LibDemAlways]

45. What century is Keyes living in?

He makes the Pope look like a raving liberal.

[RobertDevereaux]

46. I'm all for *selfless* hedonism, myself... n/t

[hatrack]

47. So, I guess he won't receive the Log Cabin Republicans' endorsement?

Alan Keyes - the political gift that just keeps on giving. In fact, it won't stop giving, even if you kind of wish it would!!

[Cicero]

48. Keyes has gone stark raving mad...

:crazy: :silly: :wtf: :freak:

Later

[mondo joe]

49. Alert to Keyes: Prohibiting same sex marriage doesn't lead to procreation

Alert to Keyes: Prohibiting same sex marriage doesn't lead to procreation EITHER.

[ronnykmarshall]

50. Think Dick will stump for him this fall?

OF COURSE he will.

[barb162]

52. Lynn Cheney and the other daughter

were interviewed this morning (I think it was CNN) and the straight daughter said something to the effect I can't even believe you're asking me to respond to Keyes's comments). Lynn sat there upright, silent....

Does he really think he is going to get support from the RNC when he is embarrassing the IL delegation and also the top people in the party? Maybe he will want to start another political party as he keeps spending time on radio and other shows or he wants to drum up support/donations for his right wing backers.

I hope this guy loses this Illinois race by the biggest margin in history.

[David Zephyr]

53. Alan Keyes Is ONLY Speaking What The Republican Majority BELIEVES.

The Republican Convention primetime speakers are a collective fraud.

Alan Keyes speaks what the Republican Policies and Platform stand for.

[barb162]

58. you are damned straight on that one

thanks for the reminder about the very right wing platform

[TwentyFive]

54. See, the Repub Party IS a a big tent...

They are just not right wing wackos....they also welcome delusional, severe right wing wackos into the party.

Incredible.

[KamaAina]

59. Wow! I hadn't had a Keyes fix for a whole week!

He was in danger of losing his crown to Denny "George Soros is a drug dealer" Hastert as the dumbest Illinois repuke -- oh that's right, he wasn't, 'cause he's a Maryland repuke...

[obiwan]

61. Sorry

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