Bush Has Already Won the 2004 Contest, Ralph Nader Declares

[Nambe]

Newhouse News Service

Democrat John Kerry has already lost the 2004 presidential race and the country should get ready for another four years of Republican George W. Bush's leadership, Ralph Nader said Thursday.

"Bush is mocking him, he's taunting him," Nader said. "There's no strategy by the Democrats." ..

"My guess is that this is Ralph Nader seeking revenge against Democrats for their attacks on him and keeping him off the ballot in a number of states," said Larry Sabato, a University of Virginia political scientist. ..

Overall, however, Thomas Mann, an analyst at the Brookings Institution, called Nader's comments "utterly foolish." He suggested that Nader "team up with Sen. Zell Miller," the Georgia Democrat who delivered the strongest attack on Kerry at the Republican National Convention. ..
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[Zuni]

1. The traitor party

Nader and Zell Miller, working together to support the GOP

[nadinbrzezinski]

2. Sad Ralph has gone from a man to admire

to a man to truly feel sorry for...

He once stood for something, but no more

[DoNotRefill]

12. not to stir up anything....

but I saw Nader on TV a couple of days ago. It looks like he's had a stroke, because one side of his face is much more animated than the other.

Is it possible he's not well?

[hatrack]

13. Nader has Bell's Palsy, I believe

Not a serious condition, though.

[yardwork]

50. I've started to wonder about that.

Nader has always had a very strong ego, but his comments and behavior have become more and more bizarre.

There are some illnesses, such as Alzheimer's and frontal lobe dementia, that cause marked changes in behavior and personality.

[olddad56]

35. He is sad, but I don't feel sorry for him.

I admired him also, but that was a long time ago. I lost my admiration for him, long before I lost my respect for him. There was a time, in his consumer advocate heyday, where he was in a position to have really made a difference in the lives of the average consumer. He had the power and the voice to have established a consumer union that, collectively, could have given consumers a large power base. With that power base and through the use of consumer boycotts, consumer strikes, and political action, consumers could have helped shape our destiny. But Ralph let the power go to his head and didn't really accomplish much. That is why I lost my admiration for him. I lost my respect for him when he refused to bow out of the 2000 election. And now, sadly, I have even lost my patience with him. He could have been somebody, but he is just a sorry shell, looking to keep his name in headlines.

[fjc]

42. He never had the status of man to admire.

[Lefta Dissenter]

3. If bush has 'already won,'

then why isn't nader pulling out? :shrug:

[Citizen Daryl]

54. Because he's an agent provocateur for the GOP, that's why. n/t

[napi21]

4. I'm not worried about Nader. VERY VERY FEW are going to vote

for him this year. He's lost his credibility, and lots of people found out there IS a difference between Dems & Pubs.

[Cha]

17. Yeah, it's kinda good he's coming out with this kinda

loco talk now so more people can see just exactly what nader is made of.

Cause I got news for him...Kerry/Edwards are going to Win!@

[samtob]

18. We have taken care of that!

I think our party has made it very hard on poor Ralph this go round. Been successful in keeping him off the ballots via technicalities and courtrooms!!

Now, whether that is a thing to cheer about, or worry about is the question.

By denying the Nadar voting public the right to cast the vote for Nader, do you think these people will
1) Vote for Kerry
2) Vote for Bush to spite the DNC for keeping Nader off the ballot?

[napi21]

28. I think most will just ignore him.

Ralph has some valid complaints, and I agree with most of them, but he's lost his credibility with the voters. If a lot of people really backed him, he wouldn't be having any trouble getting on the ballots of every state. He wouldn't need the Pubs to help him either.

As I said, I'm not worried about him in this election. He's burnt. Take him off the grill and throuw him out in the trash!!!

[AndyTiedye]

37. Nader on the Ballot Matters Because of DIEBOLD

A high Bush* vote in liberal areas would look suspicious,
(especially when rendered on newly-installed Diebold voting machinez}
but if a bunch of Kerry votes in those precincts got diverted to Nader
nobody would suspect any wrongdoing.

The story would be that Kerry got squeezed between Boosh and Nader.
It wouldn't matter that nobody really voted for Nader.

With Nader off the ballot, their attempts to steal the election
might not pass the Shevardnadze test.

[robbedvoter]

44. Would not be a first either: 92,000 votes in Fla in 2000 from no more

than 4,000 Greens in that state smells a lot like the Jews for Buchanan in Palm Beach. Of course they need him to confuse things - just look how they use him in polls already - likely voters with Nader, unlikely decided but only half registered with nader only half on the ballot - and all them nice new categories they invent to make things look the way they want them to look.

[lostnfound]

55. Oh that is so depressing. Never thought of it.

Thanks for ruining my morning!!!

[kikiek]

22. I agree..and I suspect even fewer after this tirade.

[Catch22Dem]

5. I second Thomas Mann's suggestion

Screw Nader AND Zell. Screw them both where they don't wanna be screwed. (Could be the ear...I don't know)

[Algorem]

6. Then his job is done.Now he can finally just drop dead.

[swag]

7. Ralph Nader: American Fraud

[blue neen]

8. Sounds like Ralph has a severe case of "Sour Grapes"

[richmwill]

9. What a bastard

I'm glad I threw my copy of "Crashing The Party" in the garbage dumpster this past spring (when he announced his candidacy). If I meet anyone who calls themselves a "Nader supporter" from now on- uh-uh, not true. You're a Bush supporter in my eyes, don't even try to disguise it. The Republicans want to say "A vote for Kerry is a vote for terrorists"? My motto is, "A vote for Nader is a vote for Bush".

[Xavi]

41. Well

That's what the GOP thinks, since they were helping Nader gets the signatures he needed to get on the ballot in some states.

[aquart]

10. So it's safe to vote for you, Ralph?

I hope you itch, Ralph. In private, in public. I hope the itch drives you insane. I hope they cart you away screaming, "But I have to scratch!"

I'm not the forgiving type.

[saracat]

16. Wonderful post!

I hope I may quote it sometime? Itching! I almost died laughing! This is fantastic.I wish the same for Bush and the cabinet and ......

[NJmaverick]

11. Worse Nader is a traitor to liberals and their values

Working with conservatives to get bush elected shows Nader is with out morals. Only a complete idiot would support or vote for Nader!

[Parche]

14. nader

We need to put him in a stalled Corvair on some railroad tracks
Put him out of his misery

[pmbryant]

15. Two can play at that game...

George Bush has already lost the 2004 contest, pmbryant declares.

And so has Nader, by the way. But we already knew that.

Peter

[Piperay]

19. Is Nader bragging or complaining???

If it's a done deal that chimp is in for another four I guess Nader should be real happy, he gets what he wants. :shrug:

[thinkingwoman]

20. Nader is already irrelevant, thinkingwoman declares

Thanks a lot for 2000 Nader.

What a loser.

[Tempest]

21. Proof Nader is a freaking hypocrite

"They're going to lose it because John Kerry has surrounded himself with corporate consultants who represent some of the seediest and most craven companies and industries, and they are not letting him think for himself," said Nader, whose fight against corporate influence over government and politics is his own rationale for running.


Nader is taking money from those same corporate consultants. Funny how he doesn't mention that.

[sam sarrha]

23. What is it about *ush that gives Nader a Hard On....????

:shrug:

[David Zephyr]

24. Well, Then Nader Should Now Drop Out Completely Since "It's Over"

Oh, but I forgot...this is Ralph Nader we are discussing.

[MO_Dem]

25. You're delusional, Ralphie!

If you really believe your babble, your job is done and you can rest now. WE ARE GOING TO WIN, and I don't care what you think!

[Media_Lies_Daily]

26. The GOP must be paying Ralphie-boy a bonus.

[LisaL]

27. Looks like Nader still keeps some hold on reality.

Since he didn't declare himself the definite winner of this election.
What a joke this guy is.

[Raster]

29. Ralph's got some good ideas and a fair amount of vision, unfortunately, ..

...his pride and vanity seem to be marring both. Ralph's had more than 15 minutes. Time to sit down now.

[Career Prole]

30. Then give your concession speech, withdraw, and STFU! n/t

[robbedvoter]

31. Gotcha: "G W Bush's leadership"? True colors are showing.

If he thinks W has "eadership" he ain't exactly running against him, is he?

[Fovea]

32. Well then Ralph

drop out and stop wasting the money.

[lasttrip]

33. no one listens to him now anyway.

[0007]

34. No way! This is sour grapes and Nader eating 'em!!

Check this video out.


http://BushLies2.Us/video/wmv/bush_awol_cbs.wmv

[Sparky McGruff]

36. Hey, Thanks Ralph!

Thanks! We appreciate all your help!

[Just Me]

38. Nice. Ralphie has learned the value of inciting people.

Hope he gets the results he seeks.

[Gyre]

39. How's Florida going for ya big guy?

:)

Gyre

[johnfunk]

40. Bwaah! Bwaaaaaah! BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!

For Dobbs' sake, Ralph: grow up!

[Octafish]

43. Fuck you, Ralph!

How can you sleep at night knowing you helped install the psychopathic idiot?

[WindRavenX]

45. he just keeps nuttier and nuttier

Fuck off Nader. Do something useful with yourself and go away.

[FlemingsGhost]

46. It's difficult to admit, but he might be correct.

But not necessarily for exactly the reasons he is stating. Still, four more years of Bush et al. is a very real possibility. We simply haven't adequately addressed the corporate propaganda machine.

Sigh ... at least we can take solace in the fact that Ralph Nader's political career has been relegated to that of the LaRouches of the world.

[leesa]

47. Poor Ralph. Another sucker who ruined his career for Bush

The Democrats have a fine strategy. But we have a treasonous media who will not cover anything they say or do.

[tjdee]

57. Then they need to wake up, then, don't they.

I have blamed the media as well, but you know what?

They need to wake up and frigging deal with it! Unless we're to assume that everyone working on PR at the DNC/Kerry campaign is stupid--we all KNOW the media screws them. It's not new news.
So work around it, jeebus!
What are they getting paid for??

[Raiden]

48. Nader can go suck

on a loaded gun barrel for all I care. He's nothing but a sell-out egomaniac anyway!

[bogey18]

49. It's like finding out your favorite uncle is a pedophile.

Ralph needs to shut the fuck up - he has totally alienated the vast majority of people who at one point thought he was an honorable and intelligent man.

[Julien Sorel]

51. Attention! Give me more attention!

People aren't paying attention to my campaign like they have in the past, so I'm going to say or do whatever it takes to feed my doddering ego.

[stickdog]

52. There he goes again!

[Endangered Specie]

53. This man needs to be put in a straight jacket, quickly.

[GaryL]

56. Thanks Ralph!

Give us a few more votes. Jeesh, this guy's pathetic.