Schwarzenegger Vetoes Minimum Wage, Walmart Legis....

[BlueNomad]

Schwarzenegger Vetoes Minimum Wage Bill
Calif. Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger Vetoes Bills on Minimum Wage, Megastores, Drug Testing

The Associated Press

SACRAMENTO, Calif. Sept. 18, 2004 — Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger vetoed bills Saturday that would have raised the minimum wage to $7.75 an hour, made Wal-Mart-like megastores more difficult to build and limited schools' ability to give students random drug tests.
The Republican governor contended the minimum wage and megastore legislation would have hurt the state's economy and said drug-testing policies should be left up to school officials.



<http://abcnews.go.com/wire/US/ap20040918_1079.html>

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

1. Sure it will

if you are only interested in the CEOs of multinational corporations.

[cthrumatrix]

42. same vote as AWOL, Kerry is for raising the min wage....

[proud patriot]

2. lovely

:eyes:

[hlthe2b]

3. Arnie, man of the people..... (sure)

:eyes:

[saigon68]

8. No man of the multinationals

He is a fraud. It shows you How Dumb the SHEEP are.

[bluestateguy]

4. A lot of working class people voted for Schwarzenegger

And now karma is coming back to bite them (and all the lazy non-voters) in the ass.

Chickens are now roosting.

[nadinbrzezinski]

6. Gets better both my husband and I wanted to vote

but alas we found we were removed from the rosters

We have re-registered since, but let me tell you it was ... one of them tin foil moments...

[Pachamama]

31. I wonder how long it will take them to figure out how many hours worked

...would have exceeded their "Car Tax Refund" of less than $100....

That was the driving force behind his campaign and "victory"...all those working class thinking they will be better off by getting their "car tax refund" (I think the average was about $50) which meanwhile left the State of CA further in debt, Firefighters and Police in the state without key funds and meanwhile the economy has been continue to "drift"....

Yeah, Karma is a funny thing isn't it....problem is, a lot of people are suffering because he is the Governor....and we didn't vote for him....Do we have bad karma too? I hope not...but this sure stinks...

[theoceansnerves]

5. goddammit

are these all the "silly" bills he was complaining about? people in this state need to WAKE THE FUCK UP and see this man for what he is. vetoing that megastores bill will hopefully piss off the grocery workers enough, which by the way is where all the fucking fake recall petitions were gathered, outside of grocery stores.

edit: i just realized this whole thing was a boon to wal-mart. now they can pay employees the sub par minimum wage AND open stores wherever they want! hoo fucking ray!

[Mojambo]

7. It's REALLY hard to feel sorry for Californians.

I know there are a few who didn't vote for him and you have my sympathy, but dammit! Everyone in their right mind knew this was what Arnold was going to do and they voted for him overwhelmingly!

[theorist]

9. I don't think CA residents asked for Enron to rape them.

I don't see how the CA lege would pass this bill, considering Ahnold's political beliefs. Does anyone know if it passed by a veto-proof margin?

[depakid]

37. Sure they did!

The california legislature voted nearly uninimously for energy deregulation- hardly even holding any public hearings about it, and Californian's did NOTHING. There was no outrage or hue and cry, even though they were forewarned by progressive groups about EXACTLY the kinds of things that would happen. Moreover, they sent most of the people who voted for deregualtion right back!

They certainly did ask or it- just as many Americans are asking to be royally fucked over by Bush and the Republicans- they appaently don't want their social security or their medicare. And when they're old, sick and broke- and out on the streets, no one can say that they didn't ask for it, they did.

[KeepItReal]

11. Ahnold did *not* win overwhelmingly

He LOST Los Angeles and San Francisco... the 'burbs of Orange County and San Diego saved his ass. Plus the fact that the Democrats passed on a viable alternative to Davis. It was a ride-or-die vote on the recall.

We came up on the short end of the stick that time.

[theoceansnerves]

12. the recall was a scam

we did not overwhelmingly vote this fucker in. the recall vote was about as honest as the florida 2000 vote.

[nadinbrzezinski]

15. Yep, I agree

[shanti]

17. more than a fricken few, get a clue!

and there are some serious claims of ballot fraud from last election too!

signed,
a kalifornian who would NEVER vote for the gropenator! :grr:

[MisterP]

20. I voted for the little man you put on top of wedding cakes

most AHNULD voters thought he'd be all moderate, poor silly things

[AndyTiedye]

25. Be Afraid. Be Very Afraid. They Are Now Doing it to the Whole Country

The installation of the Gropernator was a test run for the election
campaign that we are currently in.

The media was all-Arnie-all-the-time. No other candidate got any
airtime. Davis got the hatchet-job day-in-day-out, and nothing about
any malfeasance by Enron was mentioned on any major media outlet.

I don't know ANYONE who voted for Arnie, but we are assured that there
were millions of Arnie voters, somewhere.

There may well have been massive vote fraud, but we couldn't have any
recounts, because it wasn't "close", and the media had been trumpeting
Arnie and the inevitability of his election for months, and the polls,
of course, showed him ahead.

The whole thing was a Karl Rove production from start to finish.

This year has looked a lot like deja-vu all over again.

[not systems]

46. 20% of the voting Diebold machine here in Alameda didn't work...

in the recall.

The county voted 75% against the recall with the most
people at my poll I had seen.

The official numbers said the vote turn out was down.

Yea right.

We deserved that.

[mike_c]

47. I was just as surprised as you, but you have to recall...

...that Gray Davis was one of the least liked governors in CA history. Even social conservative repigs crawled out from under rocks to oppose him in the recall because they thought they had a good chance against Davis. Many Californians might have agreed had Arnold not entered the race. Remember how Darrel Issa wept when he withdrew after Schwartznegger announced?

Most of the rest of the country doesn't seem to realize just how poorly Gray Davis was regarded by the electorate here. It's arguable that he won his second term ONLY by manipulating the repig primaries.

[David Zephyr]

10. I Own A California Company. Raising the Minimum Wage Is Needed.

I am so sick of these greedy, off-shoring, corporate bastards who graduate from Wharton and only know how to line their greedy little pockets and screw the people that work at their companies...the people that build their organizations.

Greed is destroying this country.

When will working class people finally wake up and develop class awareness?

Poor Eugene Debs died lamenting the fact that it wasn't the industrial capitalists that prevented his dream of economic fairness from taking root in his beloved American soil, but rather it was the American workers themselves who were so easily manipulated into believing their "individuality" would be jeopardized should they too prosper like their masters.

[smirkymonkey]

23. If only all CEO's could be like you.

You are right. Greed is destroying this country. We have taken it to the Nth degree and eventually it will come back on us as a nation, I just hope we don't go 3rd world by then.

[Pachamama]

33. Don't be too tough on all the Wharton Grads....we aren't all bad....

:hi: some of us are the good guys and realize what is happening to our country....

Greed is destroying our country and one of the absolute saddest things is the very people who are the poorest or the ones who are neediest get used to put their rapist in power.....

[Democat]

13. Can the legislature overrule him on these?

What a fucking selfish asshole.

[punpirate]

14. Hmmm...

... California voted for Schwarzenegger and they got...

Pete Wilson.

[legally blonde]

16. of course

the Gropenator vetoed this "silly" legislation--he's too busy making sure that necrophilia becomes a crime. what a dick. WHY OH WHY DO PEOPLE WORSHIP THIS MAN??? :grr:

[llmart]

18. Repugs are always trotting out that tired old line......

about how raising the minimum wage would hurt small business. In my lifetime I've seen many raises in minimum wage and the economy didn't collapse. That is a myth that these Repugs throw out there to scare small business owners and make them think they care about them. Why do they fall for it? Can't they see that Repugs care about big business? The Wal-Mart example comes to mind.

[MisterP]

19. 'roid-castrated corporatist Reaganite moronic rock-brained muscleman

woman-suckling groping-grabbing meathead-orgying nude-or-partially-nude-posing homicidal-robot-bad-acting mush-mouthed brown shiny witless nincompoop

[LibDemAlways]

22. That sums it up nicely.

Californians thought it would be "cool" to have a movie star governor and the press fawned all over him. The average Ahnold voter had no idea what steroid boy stood for, and, no doubt now couldn't name one thing he's done.

I doubt if most of the people who voted for him even know what party he belongs to. The ignorance of the masses coupled with the manipulation of the media and the big bucks of the repukes who financed the recall have all contributed to this giant turd being laid on the doorstep of all Californians.

[Chelsea Patriot]

43. And Son of A Nazi!

You omitted that fact!

[havocmom]

21. Schwarzenegger? Schwarzenegger? Wasn't he the guy in a hotel room

with Ken Lay?

[Maat]

24. This Californian and her husband did not vote for Arnold...

One of the many, many, many reasons was that picture of Conservative Wingnut David Dreier standing beside/behind him each campaign appearance. Kind of gave one the idea he had a puppet-master or something.

[Pachamama]

34. Thank you fellow Mommy...obviously some of us do remember that....

...and he's never answered that one either, has he?

[tedzbear]

26. Schwarzie can eat me.

:kick:

[happynewyear]

27. Excuse my ignorance but ...

How much is the minimum wage in California now? Last I heard it was $5.25 an hour or some paltry amount.

Please advise.

Thank you.

baldearg

:dem: :kick:

[theoceansnerves]

32. it's $6.75

that sounds like a lot- but in california trust me, it isn't.
san francisco has their own minimum wage set at $8.50/hr. businesses must be fleeing the bay area in droves!! /sarcasm

[BrotherBuzz]

35. $6.75 an hour, but....

a living wage in California should be about $12.00 an hour. Seriously.

So serious, the city of Sebastopol, California just passed a living wage ordinance that I hope other cities will adopt. Girlie-man Arnie won't touch the subject because he's just that, a girlie-man.

www.livingwagesonoma.org/living-wage.pdf_3.pdf

Summary of Sebastopol's Living Wage Ordinance

1) A Living Wage: a wage of $11.70 with benefits or
$13.20 without is required for all city employees, employ-
ees of city contractors (over $10,000), and employees of firms
receiving more than $100,000 in city financial assistance.
Employees of firms with leases, concessions, or fran-
chises which employ 25 people or more and have more than
$350,000 in annual gross receipts would also be covered.
2) Compensated Time Off: employees covered by the
ordinance shall receive 22 days off per year for sick leave, va-
cation, or personal necessity, including 12 which are compen-
sated at the living wage rate and 10 which are uncompensated.
3) Labor Relations Neutrality: city contractors cov-
ered by the ordinance are subject to a labor relations neutral-
ity provision which prohibits interference if their employees
organize and seek union representation.
4) Responsible Bidder: bidders for city service con-
tracts over $10,000 must certify in regards to their history as
an employer, and their past record of compliance with fed-
eral and state labor, health and safety, and environmental
regulations. A firm's history as an employer, along with cost
and quality factors, will be considered by the city when
awarding a contract.

[judaspriestess]

38. Arnie Re-elected?

so does anyone think Arnie will get re-elected? Every time I hear him speak, he reminds me of the infamous quote of John Tesh,
John was asked what song describes you? John replies,
"I feel pretty" Arnie feels so pretty being governor.

[TexasBushwhacker]

44. But how much will a Big Mac cost?

Seriously. There are some jobs that aren't meant to support a family, ya know? What does this do to the fast food joints, the movie theaters, retailers, etc. that pay minimum wage or close to it? They'll have no choice but to increase the price of what they sell, which will reduce their sales overall. Don't get me wrong. I do think we need to raise the minimum wage across the board, and it makes sense to raise it even higher in places where the cost of living is high, but $11.70/$13.20 an hour?!

[IndianaGreen]

28. Silly bills from girlie men!

Arnold never had to live on minimum wage, and he married into the Kennedy clan, so how can he know what it is like to try to make it on Wal-Mart wages. Oh, wait, he did a favor to the Walton family by preventing neighborhoods from barring them from building a Wal-Mart next door.

:crazy:

The Vanishing Middle-Class Job

Navigating With a Shared Vulnerability
Economic Shifts Hollow Out Workforce's Center

By Griff Witte
Washington Post Staff Writer
Sunday, September 19, 2004; Page 01

Scott Clark knows how to plate a circuit board for a submarine. He knows which chemicals, when mixed, will keep a cell phone ringing and which will explode. He knows how to make his little piece of a factory churn hour after hour, day after day.

But right now, as his van hurtles toward the misty silhouette of the Blue Ridge Mountains, the woods rising darkly on either side and Richmond receding behind him, all he needs to know is how to stay awake and avoid the deer.

So he guides his van along the center of the highway, one set of wheels in the right lane and the other in the left. "Gives me a chance if a deer runs in from either direction," he explains. "And at night, this is my road."

It's his road because, at 3:43 a.m. on a Wednesday, no one else wants it. Clark is nearly two hours into a workday that won't end for another 13, delivering interoffice mail around the state for four companies -- none of which offers him health care, vacation, a pension or even a promise that today's job will be there tomorrow. His meticulously laid plans to retire by his mid-fifties are dead. At 51, he's left with only a vague hope of getting off the road sometime in the next 20 years.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A29609-2004Sep17.html

[MisterP]

30. don't tell Greenspan: "all we have to do is retrain for hi-tech"

"like Mr. Clark?"
"yes."
"shaddap, Greenspan."

[AlCzervik]

29. Once again the Gropenfuher confirms my reason

for having voted no on the recall, no on Arnold.

[VolcanoJen]

36. Uninsured Minimum Wage Workers are GIRLIE-MEN!!!

Plastic warrior, bad actor, mockable accent...

[truthisfreedom]

39. i guess 2 out of 3 ain't bad.

eom

[gatlingforme]

41. yes, but which two of the three ain't bad, ?

[Piperay]

40. Stopping the Walmart megastores

is a good thing, I will give the devil his due on that. :thumbsup:

[Spirochete]

45. But...

Ah-nold didn't stop the Walmart - he stopped the stoppers of Walmart.

[Piperay]

49. Ops

that will teach me to read the whole article, I'm bad. :spank:

[Andromeda]

52. He didn't stop WalMart!

He voted against the people who wanted to stop WalMarts from being built.

[Neecy]

48. repulsive, as expected

A multi-millionaire vetoes giving minimum wage workers an extra buck an hour. Working people who can't even put even food on the table on $6.75 an hour.

Nice.

[Deja Q]

50. More difficult to build a WAL-MART?! Arnold's been on too many

steroids. Inflated muscles, at the cost of shrinking the size of his brain (and judging by his interviews from the last 25 years, we know where that's located...)

[jtjathomps]

51. Why not

Raise the minimum wage to $35 dollars an hour? Since it is good to raise it....

What is the downside?