35 dead in Bagdhad car bomb attack [CNN Breaking]

[Sparky McGruff]

No link yet; CNN broke in to cover. The number was initially reported as 27, updated during broadcast to 35.

EDIT: Report from BBC news

A car bomb has exploded near a police station and training centre in central Baghdad, killing at least 35 people, officials say.

Dozens of people were also injured in the mid-morning blast in the busy Haifa Street area of the Iraqi capital, according to reports from the scene.

[alittlelark]

1. SICK, SICK, SICK

SICK..... have we had enough of killing and mayhem??

I know I have.

[Zorra]

2. The killing will continue, and increase, as long as Bu$h is in power.

[IndianaGreen]

8. No, the killings will continue for as long as we have US troops in Iraq

If Kerry wins in November, it will be up to him to decide if he wants to continue the carnage by pursuing a prolonged troop withdrawal strategy, as Nixon did in Vietnam, or adopt a quick 6-month withdrawal as Dennis Kucinich advocated during the primaries.

[Voltaire99]

11. IndianaGreen is right

It's not about Bush. Learn that now. Occupying Iraq means bloodshed which only withdrawal can end.

There is no sign from Kerry that he understands this any better than Bush.

[Swamp Rat]

12. Yeah

No real sign... :-(

and Ivan approaches... :-(

[kysrsoze]

27. Even getting US soldiers out won't help this

This is also about who is in power and exactly what we all knew would happen is now happening. It's the beginning of a civil war between the various factions and it will only get worse. Damn Bush et al for starting it all.

[Lerkfish]

34. I liken it to a pressure cooker, and saddam was the iron lid...

once you remove the lid, with nothing else in place, it boils over unavoidably.
the fact that Bush and the neocons naively ignored this truth is why we are in the quagmire without an exit strategy.

[Dookus]

14. I don't see it that simply

The main reason I was heartily against this war from the beginning was because I knew once we committed, there was no easy way out.

I don't believe withdrawing completely will end the violence. There will STILL be violence, only directed at each other. A stable democratic state will not emerge immediately following our withdrawal (of course, it won't emerge if we stay, either - which is why this whole idea was nuts to begin with).

Our presence MAY help prevent all out civil war. It may not. But I think it's naive to think that all will be peaceful if we just leave.

[IndianaGreen]

15. We must leave Iraq

We must let the Iraqis sort things out. It this results in a fundamentalist Islamic state, so what! We should have listened to the millions of people that marched against the war. Now we are reduced to reaping to what we have sown.

Both parties bear the blame for Iraq. No one spoke against the war when our troops stormed into Iraq on March 20, 2003. Everyone cheered when Saddam's statue was toppled in Baghdad in an orchestrated photo-op. The criticism of Bush did not begin until things began to turn sour. I suggest that the criticism was due to a phony outrage and not out to a concern about an illegal and criminal war.

[Dookus]

16. But I wasn't making any argument

regarding an Islamic state.

You wrote "the killings will continue for as long as we have US troops in Iraq".

My point is simply that the killings will continue - perhaps even grow - if we leave tomorrow.

[IndianaGreen]

17. True, but by leaving tomorrow we are saving American lives

and we also reduce the current rate of slaughter that our military might is causing on the civilian population of Iraq.

[sr_pacifica]

49. I agree

One of the reasons I was strongly against our invasion (besides the reasons for it being unfounded, Iraqis did nolt ask us to intervene, etc.etc) was also that once we went in it woud unleash a pandora's box. I would like us to find a way of withdrawing that would leave Iraq in a more stable condition than it is now, but I cannot see how that will happen. Any way it is resolved, there will be enormous amounts of bloodshed and mostly Iraqi blood. I think our presence IS provoking the violence, and it won't end we our withdrawal. Besides the power struggles there will be killings of those seen as cooperating with occupying forces. I can't see an end to it.

[Guaranteed]

3. The world is a safer place, THANKS TO GEORGE W. BUSH!! NT

[SSFFMMM]

45. It sure is!

Not. Heh heh.

[Bundbuster]

4. bushCorp = endless nightmare

[Carla in Ca]

5. Why are his numbers so high

better on fighting terrorism?
Strong leader?

I just don't get it.

[Bundbuster]

6. Here's why

The 2 most powerful human emotions are FEAR and GREED.

Rove and bushCorp have elevated the manipulation of those emotions to an artform. Hate (racism, homophobia, xenophobia, classism, jingoistic nationalism) is thrown in as a bonus, a whipped-up extention of fear.

[Guaranteed]

9. Don't forget desensitization

and the fact that the media hardly covers this stuff anymore.

[Swamp Rat]

13. Fucking heartless alien lizard!

[louis-t]

55. Jeez, caption THIS photo

"I lie to da finich and I hate Kucinich,
I'm Darthy da Vader Man." Toot-toot.

[shraby]

7. They're making it up.

Gotta be

[yardwork]

10. Fake numbers

[Zynx]

21. The media don't do their job.

They are not critical reporters anymore.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

23. It's known as lying to the American people by the manipulation of data.

[sr_pacifica]

50. Because

Most Americans are too lazy to dig deeper than what they hear on Fox News. (By the way, did you ever notice how so many airport terminals have their TVs tuned into Fox? Not to mention diners, hospital waiting rooms, etc.)

[Lizzie Borden]

56. Bingo!

Flat-out LAZY!

[leftchick]

18. AFP: 39 Dead... What a Mess!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=post&forum=102&topic_id=825608&mesg_id=825608

<snip>BAGHDAD (AFP) - At least 39 people were killed in a massive car bomb blast outside the main police headquarters in Baghdad, leaving a trail of carnage and chaos in a bustling area of the Iraqi capital.

Witnesses said dozens of people were queuing outside the station, which doubles as a police recruitment centre, when the explosives-rigged vehicle blew up, sending shards of shrapnel flying and clouds of smoke into the air.

<snip>
The attack came just two days after fierce clashes between US forces and insurgents in the same area on Sunday left at least 13 people dead and 55 wounded.


Police sergeant Haider Hamid said the bomb struck outside the main entrance of the al-Karkh police centre on Tuesday, but that the building itself escaped with only minor damage.

[Olive]

19. (Reuters): Baghdad Blast Death Toll Up to 47-Health Ministry

BAGHDAD (Reuters) - The death toll from a blast that tore through a crowded Baghdad market near a police headquarters building on Tuesday has risen to 47, with 114 wounded, the Health Ministry said.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20040914/ts_nm/iraq_dc&cid=564&ncid=1478

[Disturbed]

20. "No one spoke against the war ."

What? A few million people did!

[Justice]

22. CNN - 59 Dead

On Edit - boy this is really going to hurt Kerry's campaign.....

[jackofhearts]

24. When will Kerry make this the issue...

Kerry should be blasting the administration for the chaos and the fact that they refuse to admit things are falling apart. He should be calling a news conference to demand a change in policy from "stay the course" to something that resembles a strategy to get this under control. Kerry should be screaming at the top of his lungs so Americans wake up and see the nightmare that bush has created...a nightmare with no end in sight. He has got to demand the administration stop lying about the state of things and DO SOMETHING to STOP IT. He is letting the nazis talking points control the campaign while the real issue is waiting to be exposed and shoved up rove's ass.

John Kerry this is the issue and this is the time. Take charge...show America you are not afraid of the truth and are concerned more our troops lives than political gain.

[saigon68]

25. "BRING EM ON", shouted the AWOL CHIMPANZEE

"More contracts for our company", shouted the Halliburton stockholders

[kegler14]

26. It's all in the Iraquis' imaginations...

After all, George has assured us everything's under control..

[allemand]

28. Zarqawi Group Claims Baghdad Suicide Bombing

DUBAI (Reuters) - A militant group led by al Qaeda ally Abu Musab al-Zarqawi said one of its suicide bombers carried out Tuesday's attack on a Baghdad police headquarters in which some 47 people died, according to an Internet statement.

"With the grace of God, a lion from our martyrdom brigades was successful in striking a center for apostate police volunteers," the military wing of the Tawhid and Jihad group said in the statement, which could not be verified.

Earlier, a huge explosion tore through a crowded market close to a Baghdad police headquarters building in the deadliest single attack in the capital in six months.

The U.S. army and the Iraqi Interior Ministry said the blast was a car bomb attack on the police building in Haifa Street, a Baghdad area known as a haven for guerrillas and criminals.

More:
http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=topNews&storyID=6231268

[scarface2004]

29. whopee!

we're all gonna die!!

[Tempest]

33. Death toll up to 47

Reported on NPR.

[scarface2004]

30. whopee!

we're all gonna die!!

[scarface2004]

31. whopee!

we're all gonna die!!

[scarface2004]

whopee!

we're all gonna die!!

[scarface2004]

32. whopee!

we're all gonna die!!

[NewYorkerfromMass]

35. What a brilliant comment. nt

[Career Prole]

36. Attacks on Iraqi Police Kill at Least 59 (AP)

Mahdi Mohammed, 30, was standing outside his barber shop when the explosion went off.
"It was a horrific scene. Seconds earlier people were drinking tea or eating sandwiches and then I could see their remains hanging from trees," he said. "I could see burning people running in all directions."

<snip>

Angry crowds of young men pumped their fists in the air and denounced President Bush and interim Iraqi Prime Minister Ayad Allawi, saying they had failed to protect Iraqis. "Bush is a dog," they chanted.
Ali Abul-Amir had been waiting with those trying to join the police force but had gone around the corner to buy a drink when the explosion went off.
"Such places were targeted before," he said. "I blame Ayad Allawi's government for what happened because they did not take the necessary security measures."

Others, however, directed their anger at the militants.
"Such acts cannot be considered part of the resistance (against American forces). This is not a jihad, they are not mujahedeen," said Amir Abdel Hassan, a 41-year-old teacher. "Iraq is not a country, it's a big graveyard," he said.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&e=1&u=/ap/20040914/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq

[saigon68]

38. "Bush is a dog," they chanted.

They are wrong--- he is an AWOL CHIMPANZEE

[llmart]

41. I heard on CNN this afternoon......

that the Iraqis were shouting "Damn You Bush." Maybe we should do that also.

[leftchick]

44. From CNN: They Chanted... "Damn you bush*, Damn you Amerika.....

damn you Jews"...



People chant anti George Bush (news - web sites) slogans as they blame him for his inability to provide security to Iraqis after a massive explosion outside a police station in Haifa street in Baghdad, Iraq (news - web sites), Tuesday Sept. 14, 2004. At least 47 people were killed and 114 wounded as the blast ripped through scores of people gathered there with hopes of joining the police force. (AP Photo/Khalid Mohammed)



I guess they aren't blaming the "foreign fighters" for the carnage.

[iam]

37. Mission Accomplished!

YAY! The war is over! Except for all the death and destruction.

[Dyedinthewoolliberal]

39. This is a funny way of

greeting your liberators, isn't it? :shrug: (sarcasm off)

[Tommy_Douglas]

40. You can't leave Iraq...

The mess has been made and it needs to be cleaned up.

First thing Kerry needs to do is punt all the neo-cons and their cronies from positions in Iraq.

Punt the Halliburtons and those that seem to think they own Iraq's oil and infrastructure.

Hand over control to the United Nations and actually begin nation building and democracy creation. Don't just talk about it.

When these things happen things will improve in Iraq, and from there intelligence will deal with the terrorists.

A lot of Iraqis will put down their guns if they stop seeing this as an occupation and more as a humanitarian effort to make their country a better place that is run by Iraqis for Iraqis.

[The_Casual_Observer]

42. Nobody is leaving Iraq

There is lots of oil in Iraq. No matter how many times they tell you it isn't about the oil, it's about the oil.

They have no interest in the UN running anything. The US is spending billions of dollars to building permanent military bases there, it is something to behold!

The US will occupy Iraq for the rest of our lives. They assume that eventually the population will give up the fight and fall into line.

[IndianaGreen]

47. If we stay in Iraq, Iraq will become Kerry's war. Is that what you want?

Turn Kerry into a Democratic Nixon?

The only way out is out of the door! An immediate and unconditional withdrawal of US troops, and end to the Occupation!

[SunDrop23]

43. DAMN YOU George Bush!

Look at what you have done to the peaceful world the Big Dog gave you, not to mention our prosperous country.

[sr_pacifica]

46. I don't get it

Why, knowing the Iraqi police are a prime target, that coalition troops do not provide heightened security at the police stations. They are being trained to allow Iraq to provide its own security SUPPOSEDLY yet they are unprotected (like how about we provide body armor for THEM) If this is the U.S. idea of a plan for ensuring safe and free elections, then it is seriously flawed.

[leftchick]

48. I will tell you why.....

because it is all about politics right now with aWol*. Fuck the Iraqis! The troops have pulled back for the most part to their bases, at least until the election is over. That is why they have been bombing from the air rather than any large scale military operations on the ground. Can't have too many dead soldiers affecting chimp*s poll numbers.
This was discussed last night on hardball with Ge, McCaffrey and he sounded pissed!

[sr_pacifica]

51. Right

One of the factors that would turn American voters against Bush would be higher American casualties in Iraq. They don't give a damn about Iraqi deaths. In fact, they probably think that's a sign of our "winning" the war.

[leftchick]

52. most AmeriKans have no clue how many Iraqis have been killed ....

in this illegal war and occupation ( at 37,000 last count). You are right, even if they did, like Vietnam, they would probably see it as a sign pf success.

Welcome to DU :toast:

[sr_pacifica]

57. I forget sometimes

that most people aren't checking the news sites and www.lunaville.com for the latest casualties EVERY DAY as some of us do.

[JimmyJazz]

53. Atrocities by US Soldiers in Iraq

This is what the rest of the world is hearing about. Seems John Kerry's testimony was ahead of its time. I don't blame the soldiers for this (but the rest of the world will). It's the nature of this ugle beast that is causing this nightmare:

"The cold-blooded slaughter of civilians in Haifa Street in central Baghdad on Sunday underscores the completely criminal character of the US occupation of Iraq. Day after day, scores of Iraqi civilians are being massacred in concerted offensive aimed at terrorising the population and stamping American control over the country in the leadup to next year’s elections."


http://www.wsws.org/articles/2004/sep2004/iraq-s14.shtml

[n2mark]

54. Kerry Needs to Attack

Iraq is a hell hole!  Kerry needs to step up and be more
forceful about how Bush pulled the wool over our eyes and his.
 The first thing Kerry needs to do when he becomes president
is to do some major housekeeping in the Pentagon and the CIA. 
Maybe housekeeping is too mild of a word... he needs to
disinfect.  Then he can make a plan for our men in Iraq. 
There is so much corruption in both places attempting to make
a plan now is almost impossible.

I just read that Arizona (the state I am residing) is sending
more NG to Iraq and Oklahoma sent some last week.  It seems
like the plan now is to bomb the hell out of Iraq until
everyone is dead.

This whole thing makes me sick.

Kerry is caught in the middle right now.  He shouldn't give a
plan just attack Bush on fooling the American people and the
world.

I'm not only new to DU but new to participating in forums.

Just heard that the problem is that Kerry does not speak with
passion.  I don't get it-- I don't believe Shrub speaks with
passion except when it comes to $$$'s

[dArKeR]

58. An unidentified woman cries after identifying a pair of shoes

lying at the site of a huge explosion outside a police station in Haifa Street in Baghdad as those of her son yesterday. At least 47 people were killed and 114 wounded as the blast ripped through scores of people gathered there hoping to apply to join the police force.
PHOTO: AP

http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/front/photo/2004/09/15/2003148022