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demdave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 03:20 PM
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Police find two cars packed with bombs in Iraqi holy city
Security forces in Iraq have arrested two men after finding two cars laden with bombs amid warnings from clerics that Saddam Hussein loyalists or Al Qaeda members will strike over the next two days, officals said Monday.


"Yesterday we seized the same kind of car filled with bombs," he said, adding that that car was driven by two men from Yemen.

The two men detained Monday were from the southern Iraqi city of Basra, he said.


http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/s936793.htm
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NaMeaHou Donating Member (802 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 03:34 PM
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1. Let's see now
Basra, Yemen, and two Saudis sitting in a internet cafe (assuming the media hasn't changed their place of origin). Sounds like the communication lines aren't down yet between these evildoers. Wonder what was in those 28 pages of documents regarding 9/11 that * failed to hand over to the committee?
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Tom Yossarian Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 03:38 PM
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2. Welcome to DU, NaMeaHou!
We have the most secretive administration in the history of America...

Really seems as if they're doing a great job bringing stability to the ME and thwarting terrorismn.
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fizzana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 03:43 PM
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3. I firmly believe the Saudi's are deeply involved in all of this.
The last thing they want to see is Iraq's oil flowing freely outside the aegis of OPEC. All they have to do is ship their own radicals over into Iraq with a bit of financial support and chances are the Iraqi oil won't start flowing for a long time.

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Tom Yossarian Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 03:49 PM
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4. I can imagine that they are very concerned about the fate of
OPEC right now. With AMerican & British PetroCorps controlling pipelines and Iraqi oil, the balance of power will shift significantly.
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Gin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 03:54 PM
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5. How did the Clerics know that there were going to be more bombings
in the next 2 days? That seems pretty specific.
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Tom Yossarian Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 04:01 PM
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11. I can only imagine that the "grapevine" that must be operating
with the Iraqi population under occupation by what might be considered a hostile force (US) is pretty darn busy. It's probably a lot more accurate and complete than Bushco's intelligence.
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NaMeaHou Donating Member (802 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 03:57 PM
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7. Thanks for the welcome. I have a question
It seems obvious to me the Saudis have been complicit in many covert operations over the last few years (along with Israel - though for different purposes and results <I have nothing historically against Israel, btw, so please don't take that addition in the wrong way>) that have been to the detriment of the USA.

Why put up with it? Why not get to the bottom, get all Americans upset about it, and do something about it? My only answer is the years of complicity and duplicity between the covert USA agencies and the Saudis. Like a huge, worldwide Mafia run by governments.

Only my opinion.
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Maple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 04:00 PM
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10. You should google
the many connections between the Bush family and the Saudis.
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NaMeaHou Donating Member (802 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 04:04 PM
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12. I will!
Edited on Mon Sep-01-03 04:05 PM by NaMeaHou
I've read about spiriting the rest of the family out soon after the attacks, but don't know much about the connections. I do have my thoughts on the matter, but really do need to get more informed as to the details.
Any suggestions as to where to look would be apprecieated!
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 04:26 PM
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13. Hi NaMeaHou!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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Tom Yossarian Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 04:49 PM
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16. The Bush's and their corpoprate cronies have been
"THICK AS THIEVES" for quite soem time now. Plenty of documentation and a lot of curiosity abt Bush (family businesses) and the bin Laden family.
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Maple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 03:58 PM
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8. The Americans and British
aren't controlling pipelines and Iraqi oil

So far, none is flowing. The pipelines keep getting blown up.

The 'balance of power' isn't going anywhere.
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Tom Yossarian Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 04:51 PM
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17. agreed, but I believe it was the original intention.
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psychopomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 11:08 PM
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20. OPEC is on the shortlist
of organizations to be taken out. That other sources of petroleum have proliferated in the last twenty years has already weakened the ability of OPEC to control prices in world markets; PNAC is just putting slamming the coffin-lid and bolting it down.
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kysrsoze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 03:58 PM
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9. US/Brits in control? Nope. Do they care? Nope.
The pipelines are constantly being hit, though what does that mean for Halliburton? More work. What's it mean for the oil companies? Restricted supply, higher prices and... higher profits.

If it weren't for all the death and destruction in the news, I doubt the administration would care if we ever got that oil flowing again.
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fizzana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 04:37 PM
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14. Actually I do think they care.
The money that can be made by Halliburton in repairing the pipelines is nothing compared to the money they can make by controlling a fully functioning the Iraqi oilfields.
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kysrsoze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 04:42 PM
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15. I don't think so. Here's why:
To make those oilfields actually profitable will require many years (and control of the pipelines), and BILLIONS of dollars before they go in the black on it. However, the sky-high gas prices right now are resulting in massive profits for the oil companies. They don't cut costs when prices go up - they simply pass it on. You can think of the Halliburton stuff as icing on the cake and perpetual work.
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Tom Yossarian Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 04:57 PM
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18. Look ahead a few years....
Unless the Bush Junta is stopped, they will control it and rest assured that Blair's efforts will be repaid.

There will be more money involved by taking a cut from each barrel that comes out (for administrative costs only, I'm sure), coupled with lucrative maintenance & construction contracts for KB & R than you or I could possibly imagine. And I can imagine a LOT of money.

Peace!

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kysrsoze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 09:25 PM
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19. ...especially when you have to do it over and over again. Plus...
They will take a massive cut from what's actually sold - the rest will be restricted to keep oil prices high. What a nice little plan.
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 03:55 PM
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6. Good catch/connecting the dots.
Welcome to DU.
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