Arafat possibly poisoned: doctors

[DuctapeFatwa]

Medical tests on the ailing Palestinian President, Yasser Arafat, have ruled out leukaemia or any other life-threatening condition.

"The latest tests have found that President Arafat does not suffer from any life-threatening illness and what he has is curable," an aide, Nabil Abu Rdainah, said yesterday.

Mr Arafat, 75, underwent tests and scans on Saturday at a French military hospital the day after being flown from his shell-battered compound in the West Bank city of Ramallah.

Doctors are looking at a possible viral infection or poisoning, but the final test results will not be available until Wednesday.

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/10/31/1099219992846.html?oneclick=true

[drdon326]

1. The only people close enough are his aides and political rivals....

abbas or quoria.....dahlan is persona non grata.

[drdon326]

3. Prosecute Arafat in Paris

for murder,incitement to genocide, and crimes against humanity.

[4dsc]

11. Would Sharon join him??

Perhaps they both could be tried in Paris.. I believe Sharon will never leave Israel alive!!

[drdon326]

18. WCJP TO FILE CRIMINAL LAWSUIT AGAINST YASSER ARAFAT IN BRUSSELS

- The World Committee for Justice and Peace yesterday filed the second suit in two months charging Palestinian Authority Chairman Yasser Arafat and 35 other leaders of the PLO/PA of murder, incitement to genocide, and crimes against humanity.

"We have gone to Brussels with a suitcase full of hundreds of pages and dozens of videos," said WCJP vice president Joel Leyden. "It's enough to bury the investigators for days."

The year-old organization comprises Jewish and non-Jewish attorneys in Israel, Europe, and the United States, and represents 19 victims of terror from Israel, the US, France, and Argentina. The case spans 27 years of Palestinian terrorism, from the 1974 massacre in Ma'alot to the French Hill bus bombing on November 4, 2001.

One of the plaintiffs, Yitzhak Ben-Yishai, of Betar Illit, lost his daughter, Shoshana, 16, who was fatally shot on her way home from the Beit Shulamit School in Neveh Ya'acov. Ben-Yishai said his other three children are receiving counselling from the international youth organization, Kids for Kids, and the family is receiving support from the National Insurance Institute.

http://www.israelpr.com/wcjpfile.html

[Julien Sorel]

24. LOL

They should hire John O'Neill to do PR for them. One way or another, he's going to need a new gig next week, and the "World Committee for Justice and Peace," And the "Swift Boat Veterans for Truth" are about equally credible as organizations.

[drdon326]

26. Are you kidding ??

"The World Committee is a non-profit, non-governmental, humanitarian organization, which represents the legal rights of global terror victims. "We felt it was our responsibility to be at this most appropriate event, held at a critical time to create awareness of these tragic events at the UJC's General Assembly," said Pierre Benichon, president of WCJP. "We represent dozens of victims of Islamic extremist terror who have been killed or injured in terrorist attacks perpetrated by several terrorist organizations and individuals including Yassar Arafat and Osama bin Laden."

WCJP is a progressive organization holding terrorists to
LEGALLY account for their action.

[Julien Sorel]

27. And "Swift Boat Veterans for Truth""

is a non profit organization which represents the interests of over a million Vietnam-era servicemembers who served heroically to keep our democracy safe, and were unjustly slandered by that fiend, John Kerry. SBVT are working LEGALLY to hold John Kerry accountable for his outrageous slurs.

Yep, O'Neill certainly has the appropriate organizational experience to work with this "WJCP."

[MsMagnificent]

31. Oh really?

Then your "World Committee", Fair and balanced I'm sure *rolls eyes*, would recognize that Sharon in no way was even close to winning the Nobel Peace Prize as did Arafat!

Let me tell you something:
When Sharon starts supporting Palestinians as viable human beings with inalienable, God-given (whichever God you choose) civil rights; when he knocks down his Soviet/East Germany WALL, when he evacuates the illegal "settlers" off of Palestinian land; when he stops causing widespread destruction of homes, poor as they may be, such as razing the slums the Palestinians are crowded into; when he stops committing depraved homicide of one certain peoples, running over dozens at one single instance or by running down wheelchair-bound invalids by regular use ofBULLDOZERS or TANKS - the past couple days mashing at least 14 Palestinians while razing just one Ghetto house (of many!)-- or deliberately and with no reason shooting a 12-yr-old girl (on her way to school) at least 17 times!!; when he STOPS the mass murder of the Palestinian people and the people trying to help them;
when a similar LEGITIMATE lawsuit is brought against Sharon et al and his stormtrooper IDF soldiers-- THEN perhaps the world will see fit to file such criminal lawsuits, to be adjudicated as thy may,

Against BOTH of them!

[chaz4jazz]

32. As a Jew....

I want to apologize to you and to the world at large for the following:

For all the children we have taught to hate Arab Muslims
For all the children we have encouraged, instructed and sent off to murder women and children.
For all of the Aran pizza houses we have bombed killing innocents
For all of the discos we have bumbed
For all of the holiday dinners we have bombed killing whole families
For all of the commercial airplanes Jews have exploded in the sky
For all of the commercial airplanes Jews have hijacked and crashed into commerical buildings
For all of the olympic athletes Jews have kidnapped and murdered
For all of the mothers and children we've murdered coldly in their beds
For all of the innocent civilians we've captured and decapitated on tv
For all of the wars we've started against Arab nations, sometimes 7 at a time
For all of the peace plans we've abandoned, walked away from
For all of the intafads we've called for against one race of people
For calling for the annhilation of a whole people

For all these sins, I apologize and ask forgiveness. If only the Palestinians would do so - but then again, they have nothing to apologize for - I guess

[Julien Sorel]

34. As a non Arab, I'd like to apologize for,

All the land they've taken from you.

All the wars they've started against you, including that horrible one in 1982 that resulted in tens of thousands of Arab deaths. What's wrong with those people?

All the Palestinian Olympic athletes. Where are they?

All the Israeli children who grow up in squalid settler camps.

All the Israeli children who die of easily treated childhood diseases because they grow up in poverty.

Etc, etc, etc.



I absolutely despise people who make foolish, dishonest posts that reveal their ignorance and blinding nationalism. There's a reason the world is the way it is, and some people see that reason every time they look into a mirror, but are too stupid to recognize it.

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[saigon68]

6. Adios

[DuctapeFatwa]

4. His symptoms started during Ramadan. This is interesting because

during Ramadan, although people fast all day, at night, the evening meal, the Iftar, is frequently quite festive. For people who are in higher social positions, almost every night during Ramadan will involve a special meal, guests, etc.

While Arafat's everyday meals will have been prepared in house by trusted personnel, during Ramadan it is very probably that some dishes would have been catered.

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[w4rma]

7. There are other folks, other than Jews, who are major players and want

to see Arafat out of the way. Don't jump to conclusions. I can't see a situation where the Israeli Likud Party would have that kind of direct access to Arafat.

[DuctapeFatwa]

17. Sharon may have outsourced this one to the Americans

It would be difficult even for Mosaad, for the reasons you mention. However, you will notice how Erakat, even Arafat himself, have just not been able to let go of this notion that the US is going to "help" them.

The PA, it has long been whispered, is riddled not only with corruption....

[Dookus]

8. What street is that?

I've only heard it on Freeper Ave.

[DoYouEverWonder]

9. Oh please

would you like to substantiate your rumors.

[pinerow]

10. It is very conceivable that he may have been poisoned. Sounds like

something Mossad is capable of doing. Please don't take this as flame bait, I think I'm pointing out the obvious.

[prolesunited]

12. Please STFU

:hi:

[Tom Yossarian Joad]

16. Why, Ma'am... Such language.

LOL :toast:

[are_we_united_yet]

14. Very tactful.

...not

[Rich Hunt]

15. welcome to DU! n/t

;-)

[are_we_united_yet]

13. Hmmmmm

what a surprise.

[goforit]

19. Geeeee........Who could of dun it?

[Mr_Spock]

20. I was thinking poison myself - interesting...

n/m

[DuctapeFatwa]

21. LOL you and a couple of billion other people. I bet google

could tell you that the last few days have seen an unprecedented popularity of "thrombocytopenia" as a search term. ;)

[flying_blind]

22. Religious war is better for business

Israel "aided Hamas directly -- the Israelis wanted to use it as a counterbalance to the PLO (Palestinian Liberation Organization)," said Tony Cordesman, Middle East analyst for the Center for Strategic Studies.

Israel's support for Hamas "was a direct attempt to divide and dilute support for a strong, secular PLO by using a competing religious alternative," said a former senior CIA official.



But even then, some in Israel saw some benefits to be had in trying to continue to give Hamas support: "The thinking on the part of some of the right-wing Israeli establishment was that Hamas and the others, if they gained control, would refuse to have any part of the peace process and would torpedo any agreements put in place," said a U.S. government official who asked not to be named.

"Israel would still be the only democracy in the region for the United States to deal with," he said.

All of which disgusts some former U.S. intelligence officials.

"The thing wrong with so many Israeli operations is that they try to be too sexy," said former CIA official Vincent Cannestraro.

According to former State Department counter-terrorism official Larry Johnson, "the Israelis are their own worst enemies when it comes to fighting terrorism."

"The Israelis are like a guy who sets fire to his hair and then tries to put it out by hitting it with a hammer."
http://www.upi.com/view.cfm?StoryID=18062002-051845-8272r

I'm sure it is merely a coincidence that both the US & Israel CREATED AND FUNDED our religious opponents. Sorta like how we've had our foreign policy just magically fall into line with the shrill apartheid government's in Israel.

the old news:
http://www.turks.us/article.php?story=20030417085823208

the new news:
http://www.turkishpress.com/news.asp?id=30900

[flying_blind]

23. Sharon aide says there will be no Palestinian state

http://www.mg.co.za/Content/l3.asp?cg=BreakingNews-InternationalNews&ao=123296

Ariel Sharon's chief aide caused a political storm on Wednesday by claiming that the real purpose of the Israeli prime minister's "disengagement plan" was to freeze the peace process and prevent the establishment of a Palestinian state, all with the blessing of the United States.

Dov Weisglass, Sharon's chief of staff and point man in negotiations with the White House, boasted that he had won an agreement from the Americans for Israel to keep almost all Jewish settlers in the West Bank.

Swiftly seeking to defuse the row created by Weisglass's comments, Sharon said he remained committed to the US-led road map as "the only plan that can permit progress toward a durable political settlement".

But the celebratory tone of Weisglass's remarks confirmed suspicions among Palestinian leaders and some on the Israeli left that Sharon's strategy has been to kill the possibility of a negotiated peace so that he could impose an emasculated and semi-autonomous Palestinian homeland on terms he could not hope to win by agreement.

In an interview with the Ha'aretz newspaper, Weisglass said that Sharon's plan to withdraw settlers from the Gaza strip while expanding Jewish settlements on the West Bank was designed to freeze the peace process.

[hippiechick]

25. I said that last week and got jumped on ...

Imagine that. Irrationality at DU.

Hmmm ... :eyes:


:hippie:

[MsMagnificent]

28. There's a 4-letter word for that:

Mole

Sharon,as badly as he wanted to assassinate Arafat, knew it couldn't be an overt action or the wrath of the world (minus GW Bush) would surely be upon him.

[DuctapeFatwa]

35. I would not count on avoiding that, if it is a concern

Personally, I don't think it is, either to Sharon, his henchmen, or the US voters, whose pleasure it is to fund whatever Sharon feels will keep the vital arms industry strongest.

The reality is that even if Arafat were suffering from a perfectly natural disease process, about 2 billion people will believe he was poisoned anyway, and if he should be struck by lightning, the same 2 billion people will believe that Israel manipulated the weather.

And the reality is that in either case, there is more chance than not that we would all be right.

[Kimber Scott]

29. I suspected poisoning. I'm anxious to see the results. nt

[Behind the Aegis]

30. Inside job

This could be an inside job as much as anything. Rabin was assassinated by a right-wing Jew. It is VERY possible the same thing is happening again. Arafat's popularity has waned considerably among hardliners in the Arab world. If he dies soon, we could see a wonderful peace emerge OR we will see a horrible power vacuum and increased violence.

[robcon]

33. I agree. Arafat has many enemies.

The factions he has to bribe, offer licenses and monopolies have always wanted more and more corruption. Follow the money.

I see little hope for the Palestinian people as long as their 'leaders' just steal from the people.