US soldier killed in attack on convoy in Iraq

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http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/FRI743011.htm

BAGHDAD, Nov 7 (Reuters) - One U.S. soldier was killed and another wounded when their convoy was attacked west of Baghdad on Sunday, the U.S. military said in a statement.

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[saigon68]

1. "Bring Em On", screeched the AWOL CHIMPANZEE

look at the bright side---We get to Criticize and make fun of the Fuck Face for four more years.

Many ignorant people will allow their sons and daughters to become worm food for the Most Evil Cabal since the National Socialists of the "Fatherland".

[Skittles]

2. really the only bright side I see is

they really cannot blame anything on Dems without looking foolish. And their 9/11 excuse is wearing really, really thin.

Those poor soldiers - my heart just aches for them, even the ones stupid enough to vote for Bush.

[vinny9698]

15. No one to blame but the repuplicans from now on

Look on the bright side, the republicans can't blame any one but themselves for the big mess ahead. Kerry would have been blamed for the mess created by bush. Example: There are countries pulling out from Iraq, not a peep from the right wing media. But if Kerry had won, they would have said Kerry is responsible for countries leaving the coalition because of his flip flopping.

[llmart]

10. If you haven't already read it.....

pick up a copy of Michael Moore's new book "Will They Ever Trust Us Again?" You'll read some very moving letters from soldiers and their families that'll show you that not all are bush supporters.

By the way, have you stopped your running count of our dead? I always kept up with it and trusted your posts to educate me. Thanks.

[saigon68]

13. I still do it. It has been quiet for a couple of days This is #1129

Don's back too-- this is his thread. The moderators would delete my thread if I started another one from this incident.

[llmart]

16. Thank you.

Also, in reference to my original response, I just found out that our Mari333 has two letters published in Michael Moore's book. Maybe some of you DU'ers knew that already, but I found it quite serendipitous that I had just posted re: the book and then picked it up to continue reading and saw her letters. Very moving letters I must say. I actually got weepy.

[ClintonTyree]

3. I feel for this man's parents and family..................

but this is NOTHING compared to what is to come in the assault on Fallujah. Hundreds of young men will die and many more permanently disfigured. Our Commander in Thief has his mandate now to kill as many innocent people as he sees fit. God help us all. Oh, I forgot. God's TOTALLY on the Chimp's side. God only listens to Republicans, my bad.

[saigon68]

4. IT WILL BE WORSE

The new Crusade to kill Rag-Heads is only beginning.

[ezekiel333]

5. Ezekiel 33 & The Final Holy War

My Sunday morning revelation.

"3 and he sees the sword coming against the land and blows the trumpet to warn the people, 4 then if anyone hears the trumpet but does not take warning and the sword comes and takes his life, his blood will be on his own head. 5 Since he heard the sound of the trumpet but did not take warning, his blood will be on his own head."

"Therefore, son of man, say to your countrymen, 'The righteousness of the righteous man will not save him when he disobeys, and the wickedness of the wicked man will not cause him to fall when he turns from it. The righteous man, if he sins, will not be allowed to live because of his former righteousness.' 13 If I tell the righteous man that he will surely live, but then he trusts in his righteousness and does evil, none of the righteous things he has done will be remembered; he will die for the evil he has done. 14 And if I say to the wicked man, 'You will surely die,' but he then turns away from his sin and does what is just and right- 15 if he gives back what he took in pledge for a loan, returns what he has stolen, follows the decrees that give life, and does no evil, he will surely live; he will not die. 16 None of the sins he has committed will be remembered against him. He has done what is just and right; he will surely live."


Yes, naysayers, it is true, my Christian wife has finally made this old jarhead heathen believe that W is the Anti-Christ.

~Gunny C

[Catfight]

6. I have found peace with all of this, questions should be answered

soon. I believe that some things will emerge in the next couple of years. Either bush is a complete fool and he really did play into some grand plan that Osma has been navigating for many years that include over-extending our military and weaken it, while other nations build up theirs to overthrow America, or bush is really the person who will bring peace to the middle east through war.

Now, I believe that bush is the fool, but we shall see. I sincerely hope he is a lot smarter than he's allowed us to believe.

There are blessings in disguise.

[saigon68]

7. GUERNICA

In 1935, German General Erich Ludendorff published Die Totale Krieg (The Total War) in which he presented the view that in war, no one is innocent; everyone is a combatant and everyone a target, soldier and civilian alike. Italian General Giulio Douhet further suggested an enemy's morale could be crushed by air-delivered terror. Such theories intrigued Nazi Germany's new Fuhrer, but they needed testing. Spain seemed to be the perfect laboratory.

The Commander of the Condor Legion was Lt. Colonel Wolfram von Richthofen, cousin of Manfred von Richthofen, the infamous Red Baron of World War I. It was Von Richthofen who earmarked Guernica for bombardment, on behalf of Franco. At precisely 3:45 PM, Monday, April 26, 1937, the first German bomber took off. Three-quarters of an hour later, the first bomb fell on Guernica - a direct hit on the plaza at the center of town, a full quarter mile from the targeted bridge.

[ezekiel333]

8. Yep

"Guernica had served as the testing ground for a new Nazi military tactic - blanket-bombing a civilian population to demoralize the enemy. It was wanton, man-made holocaust."

[saigon68]

9. VERY SAD and VERY TRUE

The gloves shielding the chain mail fist are now off.

Look for an orgy of blood and violence.

Somewhere out there is a young artst who is going to paint this century's Guernica.

It will be the Chimp's legacy.

[Twillig]

18. And refined into a fine art by the anglo-american axis

at Hamburg, Dresden, Tokyo...

[DivinBreuvage]

19. And the chickens came home to roost with a vengeance

the Germans soon learned from personal experience that terror-bombing is a very nasty thing. I'm not sure how many of them realized, though, that what they were suffering was payback for their Guernicas, Warsaws, Rotterdams, Londons, and Stalingrads, and God knows how many other places.

[0007]

11. The proof is in the pudding not in disquise.

Reality discards hope in a nano second.

[Jerseygirltoo]

12. That's pretty clear

Great quotation.

[frogfromthenorth2]

14. His blood is on 58 million hands....

[The_Casual_Observer]

17. Do these guys know why they are fighting and risking their lives in Iraq?

If they do, please tell the rest of us, because we don't.

[daleo]

20. It is something to do with Ben-Hur and Jesus

According to their warm-up exercises.

[MacDo]

21. Yes we do

and obviously you don't.

[daleo]

22. Since you think you know, you should let us know what you think

Oil? Democracy? Jesus? Personal glory? They needed a job? To stop Ossama?

[MacDo]

23. Well

I was going to post something, but I just read your reply to another post of mine. I've come to the conclusion, that no matter how I answer, it will be wrong in your mind.

[daleo]

25. Fair enough, I do take a fairly hard anti-war line.

It sounds like our positions are far apart. Others might be interested in your opinions, though. Granted that in this forum you will find more anti-war positions than positions in favor of the war. At least that has been my experience.

I do try to listen to sincerely held, well argued counter positions, although I think some positions are probably so deeply (and emotionally) held that they cannot really be swayed.

[Skittles]

28. do you mind if I ask

who did you vote for?

[The_Casual_Observer]

26. "we" huh?

Do tell. Let's see. protecting the USA is out, so I must be something related to spreading democracy throughout the middle east.

[Comadreja]

29. Because "Freedom is not Free"?

Whatever the hell thatmeans. It's sign in my neighborhood supporting the war. Next time some gung-ho warmonger challenges my peace sign carflag with usual propaganized "You can do that because US troops are protecting your freedom in Iraq," I hope he sticks around long enough to answer my question "And how are they doing that?"

[DemoTex]

24. Dulce Et Decorum Est

Bent double, like old beggars under sacks,
Knock-kneed, coughing like hags, we cursed through sludge,
Till on the haunting flares we turned our backs
And towards our distant rest began to trudge.
Men marched asleep. Many had lost their boots
But limped on, blood-shod. All went lame; all blind;
Drunk with fatigue; deaf even to the hoots
Of tired, outstripped Five-Nines that dropped behind.


Gas! Gas! Quick, boys!-An ecstasy of fumbling,
Fitting the clumsy helmets just in time;
But someone still was yelling out and stumbling
And flound'ring like a man in fire or lime...
Dim, through the misty panes and thick green light,
As under a green sea, I saw him drowning.


In all my dreams, before my helpless sight,
He plunges at me, guttering, choking, drowning.


If in some smothering dreams you too could pace
Behind the wagon that we flung him in,
And watch the white eyes writhing in his face,
His hanging face, like a devil's sick of sin;
If you could hear, at every jolt, the blood
Come gargling from the froth-corrupted lungs,
Obscene as cancer, bitter as the cud
Of vile, incurable sores on innocent tongues,-
My friend, you would not tell with such high zest
To children ardent for some desperate glory,
The old Lie: Dulce et decorum est
Pro patria mori.

Wilfred Owen (1893-1918)

[DemoTex]

27. Since I often post "Dulce Et Decorum Est" on news of a war death ...

Perhaps I should explain again the meaning of the last words of Wilfred Owen's beautiful anti-war poem. The last lines go:

My friend, you would not tell with such high zest
To children ardent for some desperate glory,
The old Lie: Dulce et decorum est
Pro patria mori.

The old lie, and it is indeed a lie, should not be repeated to children. That lie is that it is sweet and good to die for your country. In a perfect world (well, a "perfect" world with war), it might be sweet and good to die for one's country. In our world, however, it is a waste.