Rich: It takes a Potemkin Village

[Doctor_J]

"The more we learn about such sleaze in the propaganda war, the more we see it's failing for the same reason as the real war: incompetence. Much as the disastrous Bremer regime botched the occupation of Iraq with bad decisions made by its array of administration cronies and relatives (among them Ari Fleischer's brother), so the White House doesn't exactly get the biggest bang for the bucks it shells out to cronies for fake news."



http://dailykos.com/storyonly/2005/12/10/21616/890

[BlueEyedSon]

1. k/r

[norml]

2. Recommended

Like the Nazis & the Soviets, for the Cons it's all about the propaganda.

Corruption and incompetence is inherent in their ideologies because they are not reality based.

Because they built propaganda machines that (they thought) could cover for any corruption or incompetence on their part, their corruption and incompetence could only grow worse, as long as their propaganda machines were intact.

Their propaganda machines are their greatest strength, and their greatest weakness.

They are not part of the reality based community.

They squash feedback.

They walk off a ledge, thinking it's the most brilliant move they could make.

In their make believe world everything that happens is a brilliant victory for them, and a tragic blunder for their opponents.

In their make believe world they have all positive personal characteristics, and their opponents have all negative personal characteristics.

In their make believe world they can get away with lying about anything, and never get caught in a lie.

This is how propaganda works.

Ideas themselves mean nothing.

The behavioral conditioning of "us all positive/them all negative" is everything.

It works on the emotions, and on the subconscious.

Example: If a rude noise is sounded whenever a friend's name is mentioned, eventually you will wince whenever you hear that friend's name.

If the behavioral conditioning is strong enough, you will reject that friend, without really knowing why.

They lie and say "We just do what they do", but there is no main stream equivalent to the extremity of lies, insults, and misrepresentations that make up the whole of their propaganda.

On our websites we expose actual lies told by them.

On their websites all they can do is say we don't cover their talking points enough.

Don't let them trip you out.

Their propaganda has no reality.

Their propaganda will be their undoing.

[Doctor_J]

3. Yes, but look at all the devastation that came with the fall of

the Nazis and the Soviets. I was hoping our nation was too smart to let it get that far.

:-(

[norml]

7. Too late,

it's already here.

[baby_bear]

4. What does the reference to Ali G mean?

The sentence is "The propanda techniques may be echt Goebbels, but they increasingly come off as pure Ali G."

I know that Ali G is a television show, but I know nothing about it. How does it relate to being compared with Hitler's propaganda minister?

thanks
b_b

[Doctor_J]

5. Here's a better discussion of the column

including the Ali G ref

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x5568159

[grasswire]

6. Ali G played a "king" in the movie Madagascar

....specifically, the "King of the Lemurs" in a hilarious role with a delightful accent. Egocentric, too clever by half -- perhaps that is what the writer refers to.