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drm604 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-12-06 03:52 AM Original message |
NYT Bob Herbert: Kerry 'almost certainly' won Ohio in 2004 |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-12-06 04:01 AM Response to Original message |
1. Bob Herbert is rock solid. If he didn't think RFK's piece was right, |
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DemReadingDU (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-12-06 09:07 AM Response to Reply #1 |
22. Dayton Daily News |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-12-06 09:19 AM Response to Reply #22 |
23. Thanks for that, DemReadingDU. And good for the Dayton Daily News. |
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PegDAC (906 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-12-06 07:45 PM Response to Reply #23 |
68. Vic and Mom's |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-12-06 09:20 PM Response to Reply #68 |
73. Alright! Vic & Mom's in Troy, Ohio. I love it. |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-12-06 10:35 PM Response to Reply #68 |
78. Peanut Butter |
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drm604 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-12-06 09:53 AM Response to Reply #22 |
33. That op-ed attacks the least strong of his arguments |
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On the Road (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-12-06 10:15 AM Response to Reply #33 |
37. That's What Happens in Debating a Public Issue |
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ladym55 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-12-06 11:35 PM Response to Reply #1 |
79. In Akron, we've heard NOTHING |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-13-06 07:07 AM Response to Reply #79 |
86. Shame on the Beacon Journal. That article is interesting and well-written |
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drm604 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-12-06 05:18 AM Response to Original message |
2. Kicking for the non-insomniacs |
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chemp (569 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-12-06 05:24 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. I'm your huckleberry |
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drm604 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-12-06 05:52 AM Response to Reply #3 |
6. "huckleberry" |
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chemp (569 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-12-06 10:19 AM Response to Reply #6 |
38. Doc Holliday re: "Tombstone" |
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CatWoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-12-06 01:13 PM Response to Reply #38 |
57. that was one of the best quotes in that movie |
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shrike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-14-06 09:48 AM Response to Reply #57 |
90. Another one: |
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Vidar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-12-06 05:24 AM Response to Original message |
4. K&R |
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livvy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-12-06 05:51 AM Response to Original message |
5. He brings out some great points, too, and brings the focus on Blackwell... |
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Botany (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-12-06 06:21 AM Response to Original message |
7. I live in Columbus, OH |
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Kolesar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-12-06 06:40 AM Response to Original message |
8. No one has been able to prove that the election in Ohio was hijacked. |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-12-06 06:49 AM Response to Reply #8 |
9. Seems more like "reasonable suspicion" that the election was hijacked. |
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Botany (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-12-06 06:50 AM Response to Reply #8 |
10. I can |
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IndyOp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-12-06 07:27 AM Response to Reply #10 |
11. Botany - Thank you for saying your truth - |
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oldtime dfl_er (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-12-06 08:36 AM Response to Reply #11 |
18. Yep, I agree |
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Botany (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-12-06 10:04 AM Response to Reply #11 |
35. ... give us a free press and there would thousands of voices about 04. |
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PegDAC (906 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-12-06 07:50 PM Response to Reply #11 |
69. and Conyers! n/t |
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AuntiBush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-12-06 09:34 PM Response to Reply #10 |
76. You Go, Botany! |
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IndyOp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-12-06 07:30 AM Response to Reply #8 |
12. Truth Suppression #12. Require skeptics to solve the crime completely. |
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RawMaterials (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-12-06 07:52 AM Response to Reply #12 |
13. 13. Change the subject. This technique includes |
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EVDebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-12-06 10:43 AM Response to Reply #8 |
41. No one has been able to prove the existence of God either |
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Kolesar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-12-06 11:38 AM Response to Reply #41 |
45. I am just quoting Herbert as reported in Raw Story ... eom |
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IndyOp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-12-06 12:28 PM Response to Reply #45 |
52. Oops - You were just quoting Herbert as reported in Raw Story... |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-12-06 12:17 PM Response to Reply #8 |
50. Really. What would constitute "proof"? |
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maryallen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-12-06 12:32 PM Response to Reply #8 |
53. I believe that's what Conyers' investigation and ... |
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lies and propaganda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-12-06 04:21 PM Response to Reply #8 |
67. i think thats total shit |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-12-06 09:24 PM Response to Reply #8 |
74. Because we have been forbidden to look at the primary data |
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LynneSin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-12-06 07:55 AM Response to Original message |
14. This just upsets me even more - At John Kerry |
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rosesaylavee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-12-06 08:27 AM Response to Reply #14 |
17. Respectfully, LynneSin, it has taken this long |
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LynneSin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-12-06 08:38 AM Response to Reply #17 |
19. I know but there was some proof there |
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marmar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-12-06 11:35 AM Response to Reply #17 |
44. And for John Conyers.... |
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rosesaylavee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-12-06 12:07 PM Response to Reply #44 |
48. Absolutely... Conyers is really the one responsible |
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disndat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-12-06 10:36 AM Response to Reply #14 |
40. It's a BIG mystery why Kerry |
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Totally Committed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-12-06 11:32 AM Response to Reply #40 |
43. A mystery? I agree... but, mystery or not, |
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LynneSin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-12-06 11:47 AM Response to Reply #43 |
46. As soon as I heard him do that I went outside and removed my bumpersticker |
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geardaddy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-12-06 02:02 PM Response to Reply #43 |
62. Do you like my tinfoil hat? |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-12-06 11:50 PM Response to Reply #14 |
80. Lynne |
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mojowork_n (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-12-06 08:00 AM Response to Original message |
15. Finally!! |
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still_one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-12-06 08:24 AM Response to Original message |
16. Problem is Kerry himself did not think he won Ohio |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-12-06 09:24 AM Response to Reply #16 |
25. We will win this... |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-12-06 09:29 AM Response to Reply #25 |
27. really? Have those machines been replaced? The people in charge |
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still_one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-12-06 09:31 AM Response to Reply #27 |
28. absolutely. Why should blackwell who is running for govenor |
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still_one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-12-06 09:33 AM Response to Reply #25 |
29. I like you spirit, and believe the process is starting |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-12-06 09:27 AM Response to Reply #16 |
26. What made Edwards stop wanting to fight? TO THIS DAY. |
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McCamy Taylor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-12-06 09:43 AM Response to Reply #26 |
31. Edwards wanted to fight, but he had to follow Kerry's lead. |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-12-06 02:37 PM Response to Reply #31 |
64. WHY? And why not fight now? Why keep mum now? |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-12-06 11:53 PM Response to Reply #16 |
81. Has Edwards ever publicly said this? |
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johnnie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-12-06 08:48 AM Response to Original message |
20. I wish this would be headline news |
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Seedersandleechers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-12-06 08:58 AM Response to Original message |
21. Every time |
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xxqqqzme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-12-06 12:50 PM Response to Reply #21 |
54. nope - California is about 2 |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-12-06 09:24 AM Response to Original message |
24. Any comment, Johns? |
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emlev (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-12-06 09:38 AM Response to Original message |
30. Remember "won Ohio" means "won the presidency" |
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goclark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-12-06 09:48 AM Response to Reply #30 |
32. No one seemed to be listening to Conyers and all the rest |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-12-06 11:58 PM Response to Reply #32 |
82. Kerry is quoted in the article |
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mephie00 (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-12-06 09:56 AM Response to Original message |
34. This won't change anything... |
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PegDAC (906 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-12-06 08:04 PM Response to Reply #34 |
70. One solution |
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nebula (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-12-06 10:08 AM Response to Original message |
36. 20 Amazing Facts About Voting in the USA |
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WildClarySage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-12-06 10:20 AM Response to Original message |
39. Why aren't people taking up arms over this? |
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jarnocan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-12-06 10:49 AM Response to Reply #39 |
42. Our democracy should count! OUR CONSTITUTION should matter! |
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mirandapriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-12-06 11:50 AM Response to Original message |
47. Rawstory next to the New York Times |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-12-06 12:14 PM Response to Original message |
49. Republicans are thieves. Republicans steal. |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-12-06 12:18 PM Response to Original message |
51. k&r number 45! |
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cprise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-12-06 12:51 PM Response to Original message |
55. Rebuttal to Salon article... |
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Vektor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-12-06 01:01 PM Response to Original message |
56. Blackwell must go. The e-voting machines must go. |
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fearthem (573 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-12-06 01:30 PM Response to Original message |
58. GOD, please help us! Is this going to happen again?! |
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McCamy Taylor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-12-06 01:41 PM Response to Reply #58 |
60. We need to march for the vote like MLK Jr and the Sufragettes. |
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fearthem (573 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-12-06 08:11 PM Response to Reply #60 |
72. I agree that it's going to take something drastic as you describe! |
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McCamy Taylor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-12-06 01:38 PM Response to Original message |
59. I wonder if they hacked the primary to get a yankee at the top of ballot |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-12-06 02:42 PM Response to Reply #59 |
65. Um, so if Edwards understood it so well, why not enlighten us too? |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-13-06 12:04 AM Response to Reply #65 |
83. It actually made Edwards look worse |
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kpete (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-12-06 01:53 PM Response to Original message |
61. The NYT - YES!!! |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-12-06 02:03 PM Response to Original message |
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byronius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-12-06 02:47 PM Response to Original message |
66. Formerly Tin Foil Hats. Currently The Bandwagon. |
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Up2Late (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-12-06 08:06 PM Response to Original message |
71. I only have one word. |
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AuntiBush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-12-06 09:27 PM Response to Original message |
75. Kicked to Keep It Visible a Bit Longer. |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-12-06 10:33 PM Response to Original message |
77. Gore and Kerry have an |
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Emillereid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-13-06 01:55 AM Response to Original message |
84. Are we going to let them do it again in 2006 and 2008? |
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Senator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-13-06 03:35 AM Response to Original message |
85. The words "Never-Elected, Never-Legitimate" need to be used... |
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goclark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-13-06 08:27 AM Response to Reply #85 |
87. STICKIE TIME again: "NEVER ELECTED,,RepubliCONS stole 02,04 |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-13-06 12:27 PM Response to Reply #85 |
88. hear, hear! NEVER ELECTED, NEVER LEGITIMATE!! |
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Felty_Tipdish (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-13-06 09:28 PM Response to Original message |
89. One thing is certain here ... |
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