Ted Rall: GET IRAQ'S CIVIL WAR OVER WITH

[oberliner]

NEW YORK--If we pull out now, warn Bush's generals,
Iraq will disintegrate into civil war. Experts counter that the civil war is already underway, and that what would follow a U.S. withdrawal would be even worse.

"All indications point to a current state of civil war and the disintegration of the Iraqi state ," says Nawaf Obaid of the Center for Strategic and International Studies.

"We're not talking about just a full-scale civil war" after a U.S. withdrawal, adds Joost Hiltermann, Middle East project director for the International Crisis Group. "This would be a failed-state situation with fighting among various groups" growing into regional conflict.

Think of the ferocious fighting that broke out after the Soviets left
Afghanistan.

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[IndyOp]

1. I hate.

I hate every god-damned false-patriot revenge-desperate pea-brained self-absorbed racist-fascist piece of shit that contributed to this damned war.

From Rall's article:

"Perhaps Iraq is destined to set the Middle East ablaze, or to collapse into a failed state like Somalia, or to disintegrate into partition and ethnic cleansing like Yugoslavia. It is likely that, after we pull out, a lot of people are going to die. Does it matter if they die now rather than 2008?

Long or short, the bloodletting of an Iraqi civil war is coming. Unlike the bloodletting of our current occupation, however, it will eventually end."

[al bupp]

2. I agree w/ you, but...

Given the scale of carnage so far, and that which little doubt is yet to come, I have to admit that the I-told-you-so soup tastes mighty thin indeed.

[Skittles]

3. yes

I feel no satisfaction, no vindication in being right; I just feel absolute disgust and despair

[Briar]

4. What a stupid thing to say

"It is likely that, after we pull out, a lot of people are going to die. Does it matter if they die now rather than 2008?"

Suppose it was Mr Rall himself, or someone he loved? It would matter to him. And he might use the two years to try to prevent the tragedy.

There's one very good reason why the Coalition should pull out. It is the direct cause of much the the violence. What our leaders can't accept is that the insurgency is directly fuelled by opposition to the occupation. They can rant on about sinister forces representing neighbouring countries at work, they can pretend al Qaeda is fomenting trouble, but the Iraqis themselves oppose the presence of US troops in their country. Pretending we are there to stop the savage ingrates killing one another is just another self-serving lie.