Rolling Stone: It's Already Stolen

[NorthCarolina]

ROLLING STONE: It's Already Stolen

http://www.gregpalast.com/rolling-stone-its-already-stolen/#more-2118

Investigation by Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and Greg Palast released today

Don’t worry about Mickey Mouse or ACORN stealing the election. According to an investigative report out today in Rolling Stone magazine, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and Greg Palast, after a year-long investigation, reveal a systematic program of "GOP vote tampering" on a massive scale.

- Republican Secretaries of State of swing-state Colorado have quietly purged one in six names from their voter rolls.

Over several months, the GOP politicos in Colorado stonewalled every attempt by Rolling Stone to get an answer to the massive purge - ten times the average state's rate of removal.

- While Obama dreams of riding to the White House on a wave of new voters, more then 2.7 million have had their registrations REJECTED under new procedures signed into law by George Bush.
Kennedy, a voting rights lawyer, charges this is a resurgence of 'Jim Crow' tactics to wrongly block Black and Hispanic voters.

- A fired US prosecutor levels new charges - accusing leaders of his own party, Republicans, with criminal acts in an attempt to block legal voters as "fraudulent."

- Digging through government records, the Kennedy-Palast team discovered that, in 2004, a GOP scheme called "caging” ultimately took away the rights of 1.1 million voters. The Rolling Stone duo predict that, this November 4, it will be far worse.

- Since the last presidential race, "States used dubious 'list management' rules to scrub at least 10 million voters from their rolls."

Among those was Paul Maez of Las Vegas, New Mexico - a victim of an unreported but devastating purge of voters in that state that left as many as one in nine Democrats without a vote. For Maez, the state's purging his registration was particularly shocking - he's the county elections supervisor.

The Kennedy-Palast revelations go far beyond the sum of questionably purged voters recently reported by the New York Times.

"Republican operatives - the party's elite commandos of bare-knuckle politics," report Kennedy and Palast, under the cover of fighting fraudulent voting, are "systematically disenfranchis Democrats."

The investigators level a deadly serious charge:

"If Democrats are to win the 2008 election, they must not simply beat McCain at the polls - they must beat him by a margin that exceeds the level of GOP vote tampering."

Block the Vote by Robert F. Kennedy Jr. & Greg Palast in the current issue (#1064) of Rolling Stone.



Note - Kennedy and Palast are releasing, simultaneously with the Rolling Stone investigative report what they call, the vote-theft 'antidote': a 24-page full-color comic book, Steal Back Your Vote, which can be downloaded or obtained in print from their non-partisan website, StealBackYourVote.org

For updates and video reports, go to RollingStone.com, www.GregPalast.com and StealBackYourVote.org.

[BrklynLiberal]

1. ...........

:scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared:

[torbird]

57. STOP with these posts!...unless you have something we can do about it!

I respect Palast and Kennedy -- they do great work on a trend in American voting that has never been covered adequately by the MSM.

BUT!

This approach is all wrong -- wrong for this election, wrong in general, and especially destructive (read: demoralizing to Democrats) right now. Just look at all the panicky, "it's too late?!" comments below. You don't tell people "it's already stolen!" if you want to make a difference. You tell them that the election is in danger and that the GOP CAN BE STOPPED.

In sum, I am not going to read anymore of these kind of "DON'T BOTHER" posts. Even if all of these allegations are 100% true, talking about them in this particular manner only serves to demoralize Democrats. I wish you would stop posting things in this way.

Our election is about HOPE. Not despair, and certainly not about telling people that the GOP has already won so why bother.

Please rethink the necessity of posting these items.

[wildbilln864]

2. K&R damnit!

We can't let them steal another one! :banghead:

[skooooo]

3. What are democrats doing to fight this??

[NorthCarolina]

5. Nothing of substance, and that's what really bugs me about this

The stolen elections of 2000 and 2004 are no longer any big "secret", and one would think that the Democrat controlled congress elected in 2006 would have put the issue of "fair and honest elections" on their docket. What did they do? Nada....why? If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem.

[spelldmilk]

14. Have you attended a GOTV training? Any Dem that wants to do

as much as they possibly can needs to attend a GOTV meeting. It's an opportunity to meet people from the national campaign as well as many of your local organizers. The organizers at the one I atended in Reading, PA talked about provincial ballots, gave the number for the voter protection HQ, discussed the organization of the staging locations and how/what voter protection resources will work/respond. The strategywas discussed, and I signed up for phone banking the weekend before election day.
Seriously, get to a GOTV meeting.
This election is a battle and it is absolutely necessary that Dems are informed and prepared, and we have the organizational structure in place. It is totally possible for a Democratic landslide, despite the illegal BS.
Find a GOTV.

[AndyTiedye]

19. Most of Us Would Have to Quit Our Jobs and Move to a Swing State to Do That

The blue states are blue because that's where most Democrats live.

[spelldmilk]

23. But even different precincts in blue states can go red. And with

phone banking, you call all over, not just your immediate area. You also get the info about voting stations, which is another problem. For some unknown reason, those things travel. Plus, it's all about getting people out, and having the information to answer peoples questions.

[qanda]

4. Is it too late to do anything?

The media only seems to care about ACORN.

[NorthCarolina]

6. The media's task in this election is to keep the polls appearing "close" enough

that a GOP steal is viable. It will likely be covered up by the excuse that too many simply couldn't bring themselves to vote for a black man once they stepped into the voting booth.

[Enthusiast]

56. This is also my impression.

Anyone watching the media closely could see this coming. They want the American people to think the race is close. Then when they claim that McCain won Ohio, Virginia, Colorado, North Carolina, Missouri, Nevada and Florida it will confirm just how right the pollsters were in saying the race was close.

[felinetta]

34. LET'S ALL CALL THE OBAMA OFFICE AND DEMAND ACTION NOW!! TEL NO IS

Telephone number for Obama headquarters: 866 675 2008

[Mr_Jefferson_24]

7. Not to diminish the impact of purging, but I think the vast majority of vote theft...

...actually occurs at the software level and is only a simple matter of crediting a certain percentage of EVs cast for Obama to McCain. This is a mind numbingly simple thing to do and completely undetectable.

I believe this is primarily how Ohio and several other states were stolen in '04, and a slew of midterms in '02 and '06.

[Deny and Shred]

45. Video of Palast on 2004 'caging'

http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/167.html

Look around minute 5 +

[applejuice]

50. I agree

That is a huge problem.

The GOP try to "win at any cost", and they will work every angle.

It makes me sick that there has not been a huge organized effort to combat this.

[OneBlueSky]

53. I agree . . . it's the combination of caging, purging, and tabulation manipulation . . .

that has the very real and imminent potential of stealing this election right out from under us -- just as the elections of 2000 and 2004 were stolen right out from under us . . . not to mention any number of state level races in 2006 . . .

and here's the rub . . . there will be NO consequences whatsoever for the theft -- just as there were no consequences in 2000 and 2004 . . .

"Sure," they'll say, "there was some cheating. But look at ACORN; the Democrats cheated, too. In the end, it all balances out." . . . that's what the media will report, and that's what Americans will swallow -- hook, line, and sinker . . .

I've been saying for months that "it's not who votes that counts; it's who counts the votes" . . . that's not hyperbole or flippancy -- it's the god's honest truth, and it's about to bite us right in the ass yet again . . .

god help us all when, on January 20, the mummy and Caribou Sarah are sworn in as the "leaders of the free world" . . . and what's left of the America we once knew is finally swallowed up by the forces of greed, corruption, and Armageddon-on-the-Potomac. . .

[FSogol]

8. Key Phrase: we must beat Mc* by a margin that exceeds the level of GOP vote tampering.

Get out the vote. Still 18 days to insure our win.

[mwb970]

9. It reminds me of the Senate, where we need 60 votes to get anything done. /nt

[MadrasT]

32. I wish I could rec this:

Key Phrase: we must beat Mc* by a margin that exceeds the level of GOP vote tampering.

THIS is what it's about. THIS is why we need to canvas and phonebank our butts off between now and November 4. THIS is why we need to help drive people without transportation to the polls on November 4.

[Botany]

10. ACORN is cover for a massive voter purge

In Ohio Jennifer Brunner is fighting it.

[AndyTiedye]

15. But Brunner LOST in Court

so we're screwed in Ohio too :grr:

Ohio and Colorado have been stolen. Florida will be stolen again.

Can we find enough votes somewhere else?

[Fly by night]

21. No, US Supreme Court has just ruled for Brunner, against Rethugs.

[jberryhill]

22. Wrong - This Just In....

The U.S. Supreme Court agreed with Democratic Ohio Secretary of State Jennifer Brunner, granting her a stay on Friday to a temporary restraining order from the 6th Circuit Court that ordered her to provide a system for implementing voter fraud prevention methods.

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5h5P2f-dgLBCzuRdaaWR2BTYBb81AD93SBAJO0
WASHINGTON (AP) — The Supreme Court is siding with Ohio's top elections official in a dispute with the state Republican Party over voter registrations.

[AndyTiedye]

29. Color me ASTONISHED

:wow:

[jberryhill]

30. Hmmmm..... I'll need the really BIG box of Crayolas for that one...

How about Burnt Sienna instead?

[RedCloud]

54. Republican SC agreed 9-0

What the repugnants do not want to tell you is that the SC slants to the Republican side!

[Eurobabe]

11. Oh good grief.

[AndyTiedye]

17. NO HE DOESN'T!

We are not nearly far enough ahead to survive a 6% red shift in all the swing and leaning states.

That is what they are planning to do! They are going to attribute that shift to the "Bradley Effect".
"Diebold Effect" is more like it! :grr:

[spelldmilk]

20. HeHe! I luv this picture! n/t

[axollot]

31. LOL I love this!

[Lautremont]

35. It's a funny picture, but it's a mistake to rely on it.

[redqueen]

51. The man himself said don't get cocky. We need a landslide. (nt)

[AndyTiedye]

12. Kicked and Recommended!

I don't know how we are going to fight this, but we gotta come up with something fast.

:kick:

[Fly by night]

13. I've had three different systemic "glitches" reported to me in TN in the last day.

Here are the DU threads that cover our problems (which are likely your problems as well):

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x509402

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x509430

[NorthCarolina]

27. Very depressing stories

It appears that Gas Pumps and Vending Machines are more accurate and dependable than this nations EVM's, plus they, unlike most EVM's, can give you a printout of your transaction.

[bertman]

47. Not really, mrone2. They're very dependable.

For Republicans.

[NorthCarolina]

52. As in "Everything's working as intended" n/t

[lizzieforkerry]

16. This tiem around the purged need to stand up and

demand to be counted. They need to protest loudly. We need to set up a way for these people to get to one place and been seen en masse.

[AndyTiedye]

18. No Way to Do That

So many of the purged are poor. They can't afford to travel.

[lizzieforkerry]

25. I know and they can't really take time off of their work either.

It seems impossible but look at all of the other countries where masses of people protest injustices. Just once I wish we could get off of our couches and do it. For real, all at once, all together.

[AndyTiedye]

28. Most of Those Countries Are A Lot Smaller

[shotten99]

24. Have to go for overwhelming numbers then

NRSC is pulling out of Colorado.

[Gregorian]

26. The single most important issue. Nothing else matters right now.

Can you imagine? I don't even want to think about what would happen.


First, donate to the cause. Get Palast the money he needs to do the journalism.

Then we must start a barrage of information on this. Congress needs to be involved. Every state Rep. needs to be involved.

We have watched this drag on and on and on. How many f'ing years?!


Just imagine having to listen to the Pinhead for four years.

[felinetta]

33. If this is true, why is McCain campaigning in red states?

Is he out of the loop on this?

[Name removed]

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[MissDeeds]

37. I'm sickened, but not surprised

For the most part, these people are without ethical and moral bearing. The will "succeed" at all costs, no matter what they have to do, what laws they have to break, or which people they have to stampede over in the process.

[NorthCarolina]

38. The GOP remains unchallenged from both the 2000 and 2004 elections so why wouldn't they

dump even greater effort at vote manipulation & fraud into this election? If there is nobody to call the GOP on their dubious practices and bring it into the full light of day, what do they have to lose?

[MissDeeds]

39. Exactly n/t

[Mr_Jefferson_24]

40. That's just it...

...but the painful and obvious answers to your questions are just too much for most people to deal with.

The alternative to dealing with them, of course, is a never ending GOP run fascist State.

[springhill]

41. Watch Bill Moyers tonight.........

Mark Crispin Miller, I'm sure, will be talking about the other part of election fraud; the voting machines. Should be interesting. With the systematic purging of democratic voters, and the needed shift in votes from the machines, well it should be another interesting election.

[debbierlus]

42. Myself & other Du'ers have been requesting a pinned top thread about election fraud for months

This isn't new. It isn't surprising.

I don't think they will win because there is such a landslide abrewing.

But, that doesn't mean they won't cheat, lie, steal, and try to 'win' by theft as they have in the past TWO elections.

[Johnny Potpie]

43. This pisses me off

:grr: :grr: :grr:

[MasonJar]

44. The trouble is also on Congressional level. They stole 2006 also

but did not use enough voter purging to counter the enormous turnout. This time they will combine purging with their machines again, but they will be ready for a massive majority for Obama. I am as disgusted with the dems over this non-action as anything that they did not do. However, the time has come for this to end. We must take to the streets if Obama wins and does not win, like Gore and Kerry. This country cannot survive McCain/Palin. Also in Georgia, the machines definitely were fixed for Chambliss over Cleland by the head guy himself. They will be again. They will be in many places. The GOPers are crooks as has been demonstrated time and again in the last 8 years.

[yurbud]

46. k & r

[bertman]

48. I continue to work hard for Barack, but this stuff is so depressing to hear about.

I have been all over this since Gore lost in 2000, following the commission that was appointed to whitewash the Florida debacle. Then after Kerry got ambushed in 2004 Conyers was on it. Then Mark Crispin Miller. Then Palast. Now Kennedy, Palast, and Miller. But, of course, no Democratic congressional leaders. All the OSTRICHES have their heads in the sand. Or in another dark spot.

Every freaking day we hear about more and more of this stuff. So you know there is TEN TIMES MORE ACTUALLY HAPPENING that the media are not telling us about.

I agree that Obama may be able to "landslide" his way into a win. MAY. But, count on the Reich-wingers keeping some critical Democratic Senatorial and House races in the "Almost Won" column. A la Daschle and Cleland.

Obama needs to have someone--a high-ranking Democrat--start SCREAMING BLOODY MURDER ABOUT THIS. Let Obama stay above the fray. But get this out on the airwaves IN A BIG WAY. Get the rank and file voters pissed off. Get Americans enraged that their birthright is being stolen.

At this juncture, being coy and issuing the occasional legal challenge isn't going to cut it.

[machI]

49. Kick

[RedCloud]

55. Palast says 20% of Colorado purged, 1/9th of NM Democrats

So if this is all true, where is the universal outrage and uproar? Why are things so quiet in Colorado and New Mexico?

[Boo Boo]

58. Assuming Palast is correct, the outrage will come on election day.

That's when purged voters will find out they aren't registered to vote.

[2QT2BSTR8]

59. If McCain truly believes in Country First, then he will bow out now!

WOW! After reading this rather lengthy, but amazing story, I believe that Obama should be President and McCain should just bow out now. Before he crashes his Presidential campaign into the ground. :sarcasm:

[melonkali]

60. I can't go through another stolen election -- if it happens this time, I surrender!

I'm going to accept the obvious and not get my hopes up again . . . it's too hard.