McCain for VP - on Bush's Ticket

See what happens when you give republicans ideas?

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ideas_opinions/story/203800p-175871c.html

McCain for VP -
on Bush's ticket

by Sidney Zion

"How about a Bush-McCain ticket?
This would turn John Kerry's dream of running with John McCain into the mother of all nightmares for the Democrats. But it's hardly the only good reason for Dubya and the GOP bosses to see that it's done.

Of course, it would first require the dumping of Dick Cheney, which is only unthinkable if you haven't thought about it. Everything Cheney did for the ticket in 2000, which was plenty - remember the gravitas that he added? - has disappeared, just as he did after 9/11, only to appear now as the lonely headbanger in the Al Qaeda-Saddam Hussein connection."

[lancdem]

1. You don't think they would have come up with this

on their own? BTW, it'll never happen. McCain doesn't like Bush, for one thing. And I'm not sure he even wants to be VP.

[LTR]

4. McCain weilds too much power in he senate

No way he gives that up.

Plus, I imagine there's too much bad blood.

Wouldn't it be funny if he picked Dan Quayle? After all, he is PNAC.

I'd laugh my ass off if that were to happen.

[trotsky]

7. I dunno

Cheney, Hastert, DeLay, and many other Republicans have viciously attacked McCain, and yet he's perfectly fine with remaining a member of the party. I think he'd take the veep slot if offered. Which is sad, considering how much the Bush campaign personally attacked him during the 2000 primary.

[hlthe2b]

2. I don't think Bush* would go for it...

Bush* is such an easily intimidated insecure little man. Cheney (though really the guy in charge) has allowed Bush* to think he (Bush*) is THE MAN.... I don't think McCain gives Bush* that level of self-deception. Plus, we all know how Bush* holds grudges. I would find it difficult to believe he could get past McCain's having run against him.... Plus, McCain has crossed him on legislation and on occasion publically disagreed with him...

Finally, to dump Cheney (short of Cheney being on his deathbed) would suggest that Bush* had made a mistake with Cheney as VP... We all know how impossible it is for Bush* to admit making a mistake or4 even having the appearance of such an admission...

Rove would have quite a sales job on that one, I think....

[Gato Moteado]

5. how could bush have made a mistake with cheney?

cheney picked himself.

bush didn't want to be troubled in 2000 with selecting a running mate so he let cheney pick one for him and cheney picked himself.

it was one of the most bizarre things i had every seen a presidential candidate do.

[DinahMoeHum]

3. Ain't gonna happen. Can't forget what the Bushies did to him

in 2000.


:kick:

[AlinPA]

6. I am starting to believe McCain will be one of three possibilities in

the "October surprise" VP switch. ( Guliani, Powell, McCain )

8. I don't know what's going to happen

If I could predict things like that, I'd be a millionaire.
I won't be surprised if Cheney is not on the ticket this fall, that's all.

[struggle4progress]

9. I don't think so: the Bushes pick VPs for protection.

For example, Bush I picked Quayle, since the thought of the moron Quayle as president terrified the country, so everyone was VERY protective of the Prez.

Now, if McCain were running for President, he might reasonably choose Dubya as VP on the same principle.

[peacebuzzard]

10. I never have understood the drooling for McCain for crissakes

sure he is a war hero and does rise to the occasion at times, but he is a Bush supporter, people. Bush supporter!! Doesn't that tell you anything? Hello...oh?

[LeftistGorilla]

11. Never....

Remember when Bush accused McCain of turning his back on veterans?

[Babel_17]

12. Very interesting, thank you

Imo it would require an enormous fig leaf to cover the PR disaster of replacing Cheney with McCain.

Even a real heart attack or other medical emergency wouldn't be enough to do it. Cheney would have to be dead for it to not look like an administration trying to distance itself from an unfolding disaster.

Still, even with all the negatives that come attached, replacing Cheney may be seen as the lesser of two evils by that bunch.

If we go into "tinfoil mode" it's not that much of a greater stretch to see other forces at play. There could be a movement with a deeper simultaneous agenda to have McCain ready to be the presidential candidate should Bush come to be seen as going to take all republican candidates down with him.

[colonel odis]

13. i think a lot of people are giving mccain credit for having

much more in the way of spine and scruples than he deserves.

first and foremost, the guy's a politician. a republican politician. that means he's not just a whore, but a slimy whore of the worst kind. i think he'd jump at the chance to be vp because that's the closest he'll get to the presidency.

how to get rid of cheney? simple. he resigns, citing health reasons. or if bush wanted to be a real turncoat -- entirely in his nature -- cheney would get indicted and fired.

would bush win with mccain on the ticket? why? what's so darned great about mccain? the only reason the press and a lot of other people drooled over him four years ago is because he seemed like a regular guy and was very accessible.

he wrecked his first marriage by playing around. then he married a woman half his age. who, by the way, has substance abuse problems. can you imagine what republicans would do to a democratic candidate who had that kind of baggage?

screw mccain. he's just another republican slimeball.

[TheTruthBeKnown]

14. McCain is too pro-Bush

McCain gained a lot of support during the 2000 primaries. But as soon as Bush won McCain slobbered all over himself in praising Bush. I lost all respect for McCain when he turned around and started acting like Bush's lapdog after Bush and the extreme reich wingers blasted McCain with lies about McCain's record, his family, his wife and other personal items. The religious right in S. Carolina manned huge phone banks who called people saying that McCain had an illigititate son. McCain should have demanded an apology from Bush and all of Bush's supporters but he didn't. McCain revealed that he is just a party hack who will go along with anything that they do. As I said, I have zero respect for McCain.

[JayS]

15. McCain is too pro-McCain. :) n/t

n/t

:)

[charlyvi]

16. YES YES YES

McCain, who I think is highly overestimated at DU--sorry guys--is too much of a loose cannon for shrub. Also, his ego is huge and he is impatient--I can't see him holding his temper with all the grover norquist-club for growth-tax cut insanity and VA benefit slashing bullshit that shrub is up to. Too many peripheral people in *'s administration wouldn't want him. They want someone who thinks the way they do exactly or someone too stupid to know what they're doing.

[calico1]

17. I could be wrong, but McCain just doesn't

strike me as someone who would be willing to be second banana, in addition to all the other reasons given here for him not running. And he has said repeatedly in very decisive form that he is not interested. If there were any chance he might be, I would think he would avoid or hedge around that question when its asked.

[October]

21. Don't be sorry -- you're right

McCain is also visciously anti-union...once held a press conference and called airline pilots "unpatriotic" because of their large salaries...

No wonder ALPA (Air Line Pilots Association) endorsed Kerry!

[yellowcanine]

18. Wingnuts would explode if Bush dumped Cheney and they

hate McCain - only way to get rid of Cheney is for him to develop major health problems in which case he would probably withdraw.

[SunDrop23]

19. I don't see it happening JMO

[Disturbed]

20. Could happen.

A brief item in the news in which WH stated that Cheney could be indicted in Haliburton mess. I wish I would have saved that. They sure wouldn't have put that out unless they were doing some CYA and putting out feelers as to how their debased base would react to Cheney bowing out. I think that BushCo, esp. Rove, is keeping that option wide open. These criminals will do anything to retain their power, anything!